Merged: Psychics channel Michael

Well I haven't dreamed about you.

Yet.

There's always tonight...:naughty: lololol

P.S. I found this smiley and thought of you, amygrace :tooth: lolol

I'm having like meltdowns today. People bitching at everyone in certain threads, getting told I'm not a real fan :rolleyes2:, etc. It's not personal that I'm feeling, it's like... my God. All this hate and division. I totally had some kind of breakdown :cry: this afternoon because I can only imagine what all is coming with Murray and I don't want fans getting consumed with hate. If we, the supporters, the promoters, the love-ers of Michael can't treat each other "with love"... what can we do for the world??? Or maybe I'm just hormonal? :not_me:
Lolll, I'll be checking in here tomorrow as soon as I can to see if you dreamed of me too! :lol: ;)

Sorry for the meltdowns...aww. *Hug* Know what you mean with all that hate that's gonna come out...I'm really afraid for that as well. Think we can't really control it anyway, there are so many fans out there and so many different opinions. I just hope that people aren't gonna get caught into that line of hate with eachother and stay true to themselves 'nd Michael. :pray:
 
Lollll, what's up with everyone dreaming about me?! :lol: Cool anyway!

But hey..that other dream might be coming true (don't mean to make that sound positive, it's the words..haha) someday soon in 2011 right? Make sure you don't worry about times then but something else first. ;D


Ugh I feel sooo ignored today. Meh. I need loo-hooove..but no one sees me standing.
Am I invisible or what....? Ah well...sorry for venting here. Lol.

....................Awwwww,I see you!:D:yes::D *huggles*
 
mjbunny - :better: sorry about your meltdowns. I know how you feel. Lets just stay together on this whole Murray thing. We will prevail. For Michael.

At least on this boeard..we can stick together. We have to be strong. It's hard for everyone. There's one thing for sure...no matter what happens..it will not bring out sweet Michael back.:( I don't think Michael wants a manhunt. I would like some closure though... we all miss Michael.

Hugs, love and light to everyone here...:angel: Lies run sprints.. but truths run marathons.... remember what Michael said.:cry: Just remember Michael.
 
Well I haven't dreamed about you.

Yet.

There's always tonight...:naughty: lololol

P.S. I found this smiley and thought of you, amygrace :tooth: lolol

I'm having like meltdowns today. People bitching at everyone in certain threads, getting told I'm not a real fan :rolleyes2:, etc. It's not personal that I'm feeling, it's like... my God. All this hate and division. I totally had some kind of breakdown :cry: this afternoon because I can only imagine what all is coming with Murray and I don't want fans getting consumed with hate. If we, the supporters, the promoters, the love-ers of Michael can't treat each other "with love"... what can we do for the world??? Or maybe I'm just hormonal? :not_me:


.......Awwwwwwww * hug* Fully understand what you feel.....
Its such a' hard time for all of us,the emotions running high,I try to calm myself down aswwell,cause it wont help me,nor Michael,but its hard.....:yes::no::yes:
 
mjbunny - :better: sorry about your meltdowns. I know how you feel. Lets just stay together on this whole Murray thing. We will prevail. For Michael.

At least on this boeard..we can stick together. We have to be strong. It's hard for everyone. There's one thing for sure...no matter what happens..it will not bring out sweet Michael back.:( I don't think Michael wants a manhunt. I would like some closure though... we all miss Michael.

Hugs, love and light to everyone here...:angel: Lies run sprints.. but truths run marathons.... remember what Michael said.:cry: Just remember Michael.

.................(((((((((((((((((((hug back)))))))))))))))))
D*nm meltdown here aswell:cry:
God,I love Michael so much and so deeply.........
This hurts like H*ll:cry:
 
Lollll, what's up with everyone dreaming about me?! :lol: Cool anyway!

But hey..that other dream might be coming true (don't mean to make that sound positive, it's the words..haha) someday soon in 2011 right? Make sure you don't worry about times then but something else first. ;D


Ugh I feel sooo ignored today. Meh. I need loo-hooove..but no one sees me standing.
Am I invisible or what....? Ah well...sorry for venting here. Lol.

:lol: Just read the previous posts. Maybe Amy and I were dreaming about you because you had that dream with MJ fans being around you? The only thing is missing that Melanie had a dream of you too, that would be sooo cool :lol:

Yep, that dream will come true. I think I wasn't ready in my dream to go there, that's why kept checking my phone for the time.

Aaaah :huggy: about love - I gave up on that :lol: but in the sense that I'll find someone, if something happens, it happenes, if not, fine too... I try not to worry about that anymore.

I'll go to bed real soon, read one random story/poem/thought from "Dancing the dream" ... run the pages and stop randonly where it feels right :angel:... it somehow helped me to get at least Michael-related dreams. And then try to meditate, I always fall asleep during it lately lol
 
Know what's crazy? Like in Tinkerbell's dream this morning... a Rebekah (Rebecca, just diff spelling) just started following me on Twitter. The first thing I thought is... MJ told you he loves you, lol. Wonder if was her? How to break the news? ;) Well, goodnight you guys. I'm soooo tired now. MJ dreams to everyone! :wub:
 
katrine said:
Anyway as he passed my friend said that guy is wearing a michael jackson jacket and we all were like wish we had one of those, and completely ignored the fact the 'guy' was Michael.
When I woke up I was like you fool, you focus on the jacket and not the man, what where you thinking!!
:lol: darn!

Louise. said:
I was watching the Grammy's again last night, and during the Earth Song bit, my left ear started burning.
Oh interesting...wonder if it was a spirit by your side.

Mrs. Music said:
Today was weird...everything had a link to Michael. ....
Wow! That's a lot of links to Michael! How cool!

Mrs. Music said:
Ugh I feel sooo ignored today. Meh. I need loo-hooove..but no one sees me standing.
Am I invisible or what....? Ah well...sorry for venting here. Lol.
Aw. :huggy: Have you seen Avatar yet? The parts in it where they say "I see you"...omg. What I would give to have someone say that to me, in that way. To really see me, you know? I hear you girl.


mjbunny said:
P.S. I found this smiley and thought of you, amygrace :tooth: lolol
:lol:!

mjbunny said:
I'm having like meltdowns today. People bitching at everyone in certain threads, getting told I'm not a real fan :rolleyes2:, etc. It's not personal that I'm feeling, it's like... my God. All this hate and division. I totally had some kind of breakdown :cry: this afternoon because I can only imagine what all is coming with Murray and I don't want fans getting consumed with hate. If we, the supporters, the promoters, the love-ers of Michael can't treat each other "with love"... what can we do for the world??? Or maybe I'm just hormonal? :not_me:
I'm assuming you've been hanging out in the 'News and Happenings' area of the board. Or maybe the IU? I try to stay out of the news area...seems like every time I go there someone is being rude to someone else or attacking me in a petty way. :no: I haven't been reading in the thread about Murray and stuff...I've only been reading tidbits from TMZ. All that is just....strrresssss...so I've kind of been ignoring it. I do pray for everything to sort out though...for Michael. :pray: I guess I should also pray for the fans...that we don't lose sight of what is really important...that we don't give into hate and other low energies...but keep our focus on LOVE.
Just read your post on the MLP website by the way...beautiful. You said it all.

mjbunny said:
Know what's crazy? Like in Tinkerbell's dream this morning... a Rebekah (Rebecca, just diff spelling) just started following me on Twitter.
Innnteresting. I wonder.... :angel:


I feel like I should be doing something right now but I don't know what. :scratch:...... hmm.
 
Aw. :huggy: Have you seen Avatar yet? The parts in it where they say "I see you"...omg. What I would give to have someone say that to me, in that way. To really see me, you know? I hear you girl.

I saw that movie on tuesday, its an interesting movie.
 
I thought it was sooo beautiful and amazing. My new favorite movie for sure.

I thought the begining of it was a lil boring, but as the movie progressed it become more n more interesting.
 
:teary_eyed: Guys I know we already know this but I miss Michael sooo much!!!:cry: I just watched a lovely video of fans visiting Michael's resting place..and it just hit me so hard! I have to keep telling myself that he is just SLEEPING soundly and dreaming forever.. :boohoo: He's just sleeping and visiting us in our dreams!!!! OMG I have to go to work....love you guys. Sorry, I just needed to pour it out somewhere...:cry::cry::cry:
 
:lol: Just read the previous posts. Maybe Amy and I were dreaming about you because you had that dream with MJ fans being around you? The only thing is missing that Melanie had a dream of you too, that would be sooo cool :lol:

Yep, that dream will come true. I think I wasn't ready in my dream to go there, that's why kept checking my phone for the time.

Aaaah :huggy: about love - I gave up on that :lol: but in the sense that I'll find someone, if something happens, it happenes, if not, fine too... I try not to worry about that anymore.
Lol, yeah that would be the ultimate 'come together' in a dream...hahaha. Too funny.

Good you have that state of mind! :huggy: I'm thinking that often as well but...I'm 20 now and all I had was one aggressive abusing boyfriend that didn't love me anyway. Starting to think there's something wrong with me, that I'm 'the freak you visualize' you know.:ermm: Okay I might be hard to love cuz I'm not a regular easy girl...but there must be SOMEONE? No one ever said 'I love you' to me, no guy ever declared he liked me. I just long to all that SO much..I try to put it away but it's getting a little too much now. Bwuhhhhh.


Aw. :huggy: Have you seen Avatar yet? The parts in it where they say "I see you"...omg. What I would give to have someone say that to me, in that way. To really see me, you know? I hear you girl.
No I haven't yet, shame on me! It sounds so beautiful but on the other hand I'm afraid I might not wanna leave that cinema anymore and step into the real world. :lol: But I think I'm just gonna download it and watch it the normal way. Know what you mean, it's so frustrating to feel like no one sees you. Thanks for understanding honey... :huggy:

:teary_eyed: Guys I know we already know this but I miss Michael sooo much!!!:cry: I just watched a lovely video of fans visiting Michael's resting place..and it just hit me so hard! I have to keep telling myself that he is just SLEEPING soundly and dreaming forever.. :boohoo: He's just sleeping and visiting us in our dreams!!!! OMG I have to go to work....love you guys. Sorry, I just needed to pour it out somewhere...:cry::cry::cry:
Hugs for you...stay strong girl.:better: By the way, think it's wonderful that we can be so open in this thread.
 
I went bowling yesterday with my godchild and my score was 111. There was something else but I can't remember what it was :scratch:

WhoAmI... interesting dream! Curious about how "Tici" was pronounced. Not trying to be cryptic, lol, just the word pronounced a certain way would mean something personal to me, so I was like... whoa... is it "my" word? Like was it "ticky", "tie-see", "tee-key", etc....?

LOL I guess you get a ticket to one of those shows when you really need Michael to tell you he loves you, lol. Crazy the similarities between the dreams, huh? I mean, whoa. But remember, you almost got to kiss him in the car the other night (if it weren't for your funky unbrushed teeth, lololol). Seriously, though, I wish everyone would have this dream, so I hope you get it too! That dream comes back to me so often. I see Michael saying "I love you" and the way he looked into my eyes, so real, so "pure", like Tink said. And the way he said it, just calm, serious and so sweetly (well, mouthed the words in my case) like "I ... LOVE... YOU".... Oh, Michael :wub: :swoon:

I can't remember if it was "ticky" or "tee-key"... I think ticky. Your dream sounds so nice. Much better than the weird dreams I've been having anyway :lol:
 
I just discovered the "Multi quote" woohooo

:

I know, I was like :eek: when I read yours! And I had that back on November 8th! Crazy, huh? :wub:
QUOTE]

hmmmm I wonder if there is a hidden msg behind it, something there but we cant see....its really fascinating.

Today was weird...everything had a link to Michael. I started my minor Creative Writing the other day, and today I had a lesson about genres...the teacher kept repeating 'so in a thriller...blabla'...next lesson...teacher comes up with words and we have to improvise and see what connection we make with those words...'supersoaker...hat...children' and a few others, I couldn't help but smile 'cause the half of it linked my imagination to Michael. Then I was waiting at the station, and this cute adorable kid starts dancing and looked at me and smiled...I dunnow why but that made me feel so emotional all of a sudden, thoughts went back to Michael again....and so I sat in the train and saw this vehicle with big letters 'DANGEROUS' as logo. Hell, so much! I think I even forgot a few clues...there were so many! :lol: Anyway...not that important...but thought it was cute.

thats so sweet, I have had those days too...wherever you go, you see Michael, you hear Michael, you feel Michael...its a Michaelish day!! and I love those days. :)

I feel disconnected but it's okay, I know we'll connect again.

My Michael is forever in my heart and is forever a part of me :wub:

awwww :huggy: he is so loved.

I'm having like meltdowns today. People bitching at everyone in certain threads, getting told I'm not a real fan :rolleyes2:, etc. It's not personal that I'm feeling, it's like... my God. All this hate and division. I totally had some kind of breakdown :cry: this afternoon because I can only imagine what all is coming with Murray and I don't want fans getting consumed with hate. If we, the supporters, the promoters, the love-ers of Michael can't treat each other "with love"... what can we do for the world??? Or maybe I'm just hormonal? :not_me:

Well people can bitch all they want, only you know whats in your heart. :) Lets pray for the best....this whole thing with Murray...I dont know...lately I have tried not to think about it coz it takes so much of my energy. justice will prevail....thats all I know.

Know what's crazy? Like in Tinkerbell's dream this morning... a Rebekah (Rebecca, just diff spelling) just started following me on Twitter. The first thing I thought is... MJ told you he loves you, lol. Wonder if was her? How to break the news? ;) Well, goodnight you guys. I'm soooo tired now. MJ dreams to everyone! :wub:

wow....maybe thats her? Rebekah or Rebecca, whatever you spell it, all I heard was Michael saying that name. I dont know anyone with that name, there must be a reason why he said it....of all the names...he chose to say just THAT! Goodluck on breaking the news...hahaahha...thank god I dont have to do that! ;)

Aw. :huggy: Have you seen Avatar yet? The parts in it where they say "I see you"...omg. What I would give to have someone say that to me, in that way. To really see me, you know? I hear you girl.QUOTE]

I LOOOOOOOOVE Avatar! I wish it never ended. I felt like I was one of them jumping around in Pandora. Michael would have LOVED it...while watching it I kept thinking about Michael...his message...is out there. Its soooo him.

:teary_eyed: Guys I know we already know this but I miss Michael sooo much!!!:cry: I just watched a lovely video of fans visiting Michael's resting place..and it just hit me so hard! I have to keep telling myself that he is just SLEEPING soundly and dreaming forever.. :boohoo: He's just sleeping and visiting us in our dreams!!!! OMG I have to go to work....love you guys. Sorry, I just needed to pour it out somewhere...:cry::cry::cry:

awwww :huggy: its alright. I watched that video too a while ago...it breaks my heart to see the crypt like that. It looks so alone...for some reason I keep thinking Michael should have been buried outdoor...where there is green and flowers, I dont know its just my opinion...coz everytime I see that crypt..i get this lonely feeling. oh here we go again..:cry: I was suppose to write something to cheer you up but now im crying too.
All i know now is Michael is in a better place...hugs and love to all.

I love the "Multi Quote"!
 
:huggy::huggy: to everyone here. :heart:

Nothing to report again from me.
I just had one of those convos with my mother about my future while we were out. *Gulp*. Just stuff like moving out etc. I mean she wasn't being rude or anything, perfectly pleasant, but I just don't like thinking about stuff like that, cos you know, I hate change and well, growing up lol. Well anyway to cut a long story short, I felt some tears welling up and I looked away, and my eyes caught some MJ posters in the supermarket, but the way the box was facing, it was his face looking at me, with that quote "If you enter this world...". It just made me feel calm for some reason and my tears melted away.
Just thought I would share that with y'all.
 
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:teary_eyed: Guys I know we already know this but I miss Michael sooo much!!!:cry: ...
Me tooooo. Last night, I listened to "You Are Not Alone" and "Human Nature" while laying in bed before sleeping...and for the first time in awhile I just cried and cried. I know he's perfectly ok where he's at...I know that in my soul...but I was just missing him SO much! I kept thinking about how I missed him in this lifetime...and I can't get that back. I want to look in his eyes, I want to touch his hands, I just want to really feel him near me...lean on his shoulder...just... ugh. :teary_eyed:

Mrs. Music said:
I'm 20 now and all I had was one aggressive abusing boyfriend that didn't love me anyway. Starting to think there's something wrong with me, that I'm 'the freak you visualize' you know.:ermm: Okay I might be hard to love cuz I'm not a regular easy girl...but there must be SOMEONE? No one ever said 'I love you' to me, no guy ever declared he liked me. I just long to all that SO much..I try to put it away but it's getting a little too much now. Bwuhhhhh.
Girl you are only 20? You have so much time! Don't go gettin' frustrated yet! You SO have a guy out there for you...that will really see you. Just wait...watch. And don't go believing that you are just hard to love or something...just because you aren't a 'regular' girl....omg don't do that. The best thing you can be is different. You should be proud of it. I sure as hell am proud to be out of the traditional 'box' that so many others are living in. Be proud of who you are, know that you are worthy of love, that you are someone to be seen, whether there is a man in your life or not. And you WILL find someone worthy of your love too...who is just as different as you are. Just hang in there. :huggy:


Mrs. Music said:
No I haven't yet, shame on me! It sounds so beautiful but on the other hand I'm afraid I might not wanna leave that cinema anymore and step into the real world. :lol:
If you are anything like me, you will most definitely not want to step out into the real world. But...it's worth it. It really is.

Tinker_Bell said:
I just discovered the "Multi quote" woohooo
Hehe...I wish this feature worked for me! I've tried using it many times and it just doesn't work. :scratch:

Tinker_Bell said:
I LOOOOOOOOVE Avatar! I wish it never ended. I felt like I was one of them jumping around in Pandora. Michael would have LOVED it...while watching it I kept thinking about Michael...his message...is out there. Its soooo him.
Same here!! All of what you said. :wub:

darlingdear said:
I just had one of those convos with my mother about my future while we were out. *Gulp*. Just stuff like moving out etc. I mean she wasn't being rude or anything, perfectly pleasant, but I just don't like thinking about stuff like that, cos you know, I hate change and well, growing up lol.
I love change...but I'm with you on growing up. That's the one thing I always feared since I was 7...and I'm still having trouble adjusting to, to be honest. But, it's just a part of life and like everyone else, you learn to adapt. There are some wonderful things about 'growing up'...I just hate losing that innocence...I hate losing and forgetting the way the world felt when I was younger... (sigh)
 
Whine! I wanna see Avatar! :( I guess the only thing I can really do is read up on it, ruin the whole story for myself so I know what's going on when I see it dubbed over with German. Argghghgh.

CyberJackson - :hug: My hubby had that video from MJ Fans of SoCal on the screen for me when I woke up. Nothing like starting the day with a tear. I'm glad, though, that security is treating fans so well... at least something...

Mrs Music - Well, no dreams of you last night. But Anderson Cooper tried to kiss me (huh? lol- and it's two AC dreams in a week, what's up with that??) Also dreamed of Michael, but will write that later.

Regarding the boyfriend dilemma... you sound like me when I was 20. I didn't see anything wrong with me, yet no one seemed to want me. Ohhh, I know how that feels :hug:. There are a couple of things I could say and, while I feel they're true, they're not so easy. One is that most guys your age are dicks :lol:. What I mean is, it's a rare catch to find a guy around 20 who will truly commit and endlessly love you. It's like some biological defect. They just don't think & feel like we do at the same age. There are exceptions, of course, but the chances of finding one are slim and we gals waste a lot of time and energy thinking we need that to be happy. But the good news is, men get better as they age. Well, the ones that really become MEN do. Some of them forever remain "guys" and they're just a lost cause. :smilerolleyes: I didn't find Mr Right until I was 29. I know that feels like a million years from now, lol, but it will be there faster than you know what hit you. And the best things tend to come to us when we're not seeking them! You have no idea how weird it is that I'll be 38 (! wtf?!) next week, but as someone in this older position :mello:, I would honestly give you the advice to just try to find some calm within yourself. Have fun while you look your best and have lots of energy, lol! I mean, enjoy life. Hang with friends, pursue your dreams, try not to let emotional longing for fairytales distract you from enjoying this precious time. Because you won't get this time back. I guess it's another biological defect that we women were given this deep need for male approval and companionship when young, right when the guys can't seem to provide it. Like some kind of torture. But we all have to deal with this. :fortuneteller:I predict everyone will find a great guy someday, right when you decide you don't need one :) I know it's a human need to be loved, though. I know. We all have it :heart: :hug: :heart:

Tinker_Bell - Congrats on finding multi-quote :punk: lolol
 
Saw Michael in a dream last night! :) It was a stupid dream, though :lol: Hubby and I lived in a house on an average American suburban street. Across the street and down one house lived someone who was a friend of Michael's, like a producer or photographer or something. Michael had come to stay with him for a while. Each day he and MJ would spend time out front (in plain sight!) on the porch or in the open garage. Just the two of them standing around talking, maybe working on something on a table or whatever. Michael always appeared in the torn up black and red clothing from the Earth Song video, lol. And omg, did he look utterly gorgeous :swoon:

After nearly a week of just watching him occasionally out the front window (imagine, lololol) I thought, "What the heck are we doing?! We could go over there and meet him!!!" :doh: So the next day I was all ready to head over there and be annoying, hoping to meet or at least get close to Michael, but the guys never came outside. Oh no! Did I wait too long?! I realized it had been one week and that was probably all the vacation time that guy had and so MJ was probably leaving. I got up the guts to go to the door and ring the bell. Someone answered, but said that neither the man or MJ were there at the moment. Agh! So I sort of stalked the place from across the street, because I was determined! But then I woke up and was mad that I woke up because I was sure I was going to see Michael again very soon. Went back to sleep and back to the same street, but I ended up sidetracked into another dream and that was that.:smilerolleyes:

But I'll say it again. Any dream in which I see Michael, even if it's for a moment and from a distance, is better than no Michael at all! :D
 
One is that most guys your age are dicks :lol:. What I mean is, it's a rare catch to find a guy around 20 who will truly commit and endlessly love you. It's like some biological defect. They just don't think & feel like we do at the same age. There are exceptions, of course, but the chances of finding one are slim and we gals waste a lot of time and energy thinking we need that to be happy. But the good news is, men get better as they age. Well, the ones that really become MEN do. Some of them forever remain "guys" and they're just a lost cause. :smilerolleyes:
Omg I just have to say I completely agree with this statement. Lol. This is why I love older guys. MEN. Even being 25 right now, I simply will not date guys my age. From what I've come to find anyway, they are just sooo not on the same page with me. Of course, me having a kid changes things...but even if I didn't have a child, I still wouldn't date em. I do know there are exceptions, but most that I meet are scattered, unfocused, and generally immature, irresponsible, and often selfish. Older guys FTW!


And the best things tend to come to us when we're not seeking them!
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enjoy life. Hang with friends, pursue your dreams, try not to let emotional longing for fairytales distract you from enjoying this precious time. Because you won't get this time back.
Agree with all of this too. This is part of what I've come to learn over the past year. To just enjoy my life, and come to be OK with myself...without any man. Constantly searching for that missing piece just caused me a lot of grief...when the 'missing piece' was something I needed to find in myself. For a good 3 years I've searched, wanting that "fairytale" relationship so bad. I waited on it...I was sad without it. I felt like I needed it...to feel better about myself, and about life. But that's the thing. You have to learn to be happy with yourself and your life...on your own. To not depend on anyone for your happiness. We are all responsible for our own happiness. And if you can't be happy and feel fulfilled on your own...your relationships will only become co-dependent ones. They will not fill that void...they will only distract you from it. It's been a long, great lesson for me. I'm finally happy standing on my own.
 
Each day he and MJ would spend time out front (in plain sight!) on the porch or in the open garage. Just the two of them standing around talking, maybe working on something on a table or whatever. Michael always appeared in the torn up black and red clothing from the Earth Song video, lol. And omg, did he look utterly gorgeous :swoon:

After nearly a week of just watching him occasionally out the front window (imagine, lololol) I thought, "What the heck are we doing?! We could go over there and meet him!!!" :doh: So the next day I was all ready to head over there and be annoying, hoping to meet or at least get close to Michael, but the guys never came outside. Oh no! Did I wait too long?!
How nice that would be to watch Michael just hanging out across the street!
The overall dream makes me think of how a lot of people feel...that they waited too long...to finally meet Michael/see him in concert...and when they finally did something about it (getting TII tickets) it was too late. :no:
 
Girl you are only 20? You have so much time! Don't go gettin' frustrated yet! You SO have a guy out there for you...that will really see you. Just wait...watch. And don't go believing that you are just hard to love or something...just because you aren't a 'regular' girl....omg don't do that. The best thing you can be is different. You should be proud of it. I sure as hell am proud to be out of the traditional 'box' that so many others are living in. Be proud of who you are, know that you are worthy of love, that you are someone to be seen, whether there is a man in your life or not. And you WILL find someone worthy of your love too...who is just as different as you are. Just hang in there. :huggy:
Yeah that's true...I know I'm still quite young and stuff. It's not even so much that I really look for that perfect relationship you know, it's more like...just getting the confirmation I AM seen...that guys DO like me. Everyone around me gets compliments on their looks or whatever, or has these guys hanging on their butts (lol this is a typical Dutch sentence, hope that doesn't sound weird in Englis)...but I have never gotten such confirmation. That's what's killing me...everytime I see others getting these flirty messages and stuff, it just kills me. :mello: But yes, I am proud of being 'out of the box' indeed...I do realize that and am very strongly in that actually. Thanks hun.

Mrs Music - Well, no dreams of you last night. But Anderson Cooper tried to kiss me (huh? lol- and it's two AC dreams in a week, what's up with that??) Also dreamed of Michael, but will write that later.

Regarding the boyfriend dilemma... you sound like me when I was 20. I didn't see anything wrong with me, yet no one seemed to want me. Ohhh, I know how that feels :hug:. There are a couple of things I could say and, while I feel they're true, they're not so easy. One is that most guys your age are dicks :lol:. What I mean is, it's a rare catch to find a guy around 20 who will truly commit and endlessly love you. It's like some biological defect. They just don't think & feel like we do at the same age. There are exceptions, of course, but the chances of finding one are slim and we gals waste a lot of time and energy thinking we need that to be happy. But the good news is, men get better as they age. Well, the ones that really become MEN do. Some of them forever remain "guys" and they're just a lost cause. :smilerolleyes: I didn't find Mr Right until I was 29. I know that feels like a million years from now, lol, but it will be there faster than you know what hit you. And the best things tend to come to us when we're not seeking them! You have no idea how weird it is that I'll be 38 (! wtf?!) next week, but as someone in this older position :mello:, I would honestly give you the advice to just try to find some calm within yourself. Have fun while you look your best and have lots of energy, lol! I mean, enjoy life. Hang with friends, pursue your dreams, try not to let emotional longing for fairytales distract you from enjoying this precious time. Because you won't get this time back. I guess it's another biological defect that we women were given this deep need for male approval and companionship when young, right when the guys can't seem to provide it. Like some kind of torture. But we all have to deal with this. :fortuneteller:I predict everyone will find a great guy someday, right when you decide you don't need one :) I know it's a human need to be loved, though. I know. We all have it :heart: :hug: :heart:
Hahah, too bad about the dream! And good to read how it was for you, with the guys and stuff. Thanks for sharing and for the advice. :huggy: I do realize my life is good and that I can be proud of who I am, like I said above....I went through this whole 'have to love myself' period a while ago and know very well that I can have enough just being on myself and doing the things I love. I am proud of that. The non-seeking part is so true...and lol @ this biological defect...could be very well true as well! :lol: I've always kinda seeked for this unconditional love since I was little, guess that has to do with my over-emotional part of me. Maybe guys can read on my forehead I don't want to go through the easy, stupid stuff but want the real deal, haha. I just feel so different than others, since all my life.

But hey, when's your birthday? We may not forget that day ofcourse! ;D

Omg I just have to say I completely agree with this statement. Lol. This is why I love older guys. MEN. Even being 25 right now, I simply will not date guys my age. From what I've come to find anyway, they are just sooo not on the same page with me. Of course, me having a kid changes things...but even if I didn't have a child, I still wouldn't date em. I do know there are exceptions, but most that I meet are scattered, unfocused, and generally immature, irresponsible, and often selfish. Older guys FTW!
Hahah, go girl. And yesss...older guys are IT! (Heck, a certain 50-year-old would've done for me too...LOL! :shifty:)

Agree with all of this too. This is part of what I've come to learn over the past year. To just enjoy my life, and come to be OK with myself...without any man. Constantly searching for that missing piece just caused me a lot of grief...when the 'missing piece' was something I needed to find in myself. For a good 3 years I've searched, wanting that "fairytale" relationship so bad. I waited on it...I was sad without it. I felt like I needed it...to feel better about myself, and about life. But that's the thing. You have to learn to be happy with yourself and your life...on your own. To not depend on anyone for your happiness. We are all responsible for our own happiness. And if you can't be happy and feel fulfilled on your own...your relationships will only become co-dependent ones. They will not fill that void...they will only distract you from it. It's been a long, great lesson for me. I'm finally happy standing on my own.
Good to read you're happy about your situation! Respect girl, for going strong with your cute girly and the awesome work you do and all! :) It's true that you really have to not be depended on anyone...I felt like that before too and I'm so glad to know what I'm worth now, just to have fun by myself and not let anyone get me down. But it's still that confirmation...just those liiiiiitle things that hit right in the heart and make me realize I've been so loveless. Boo.

But ehm...I'm talking much about me again. Hope you guys don't mind. :ph34r:
Thanks for all the support and stuff...really appreciate it! Helps to have a place to just share your feelings.
 
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The overall dream makes me think of how a lot of people feel...that they waited too long...to finally meet Michael/see him in concert...and when they finally did something about it (getting TII tickets) it was too late. :no:
I think that's it. Usually I don't remember most of my dreams but this one I still see like a film. Mikey was sitting in an armchair, black jeans, black jacket, white shirt, with me kneeling aside of him with my hands on his knees, and we were talking. Nothing else but talking. And it felt sooo good and warm and cosy ... with this feeling I finally woke up. :( It has been my greatest wish onetime to be able to talk to MJ about everything and anything, there would have been so much I think we could have talked the roof off ... but now this will remain a dream forever. :no:
 
Agree with all of this too. This is part of what I've come to learn over the past year. To just enjoy my life, and come to be OK with myself...without any man. Constantly searching for that missing piece just caused me a lot of grief...when the 'missing piece' was something I needed to find in myself. For a good 3 years I've searched, wanting that "fairytale" relationship so bad. I waited on it...I was sad without it. I felt like I needed it...to feel better about myself, and about life. But that's the thing. You have to learn to be happy with yourself and your life...on your own. To not depend on anyone for your happiness. We are all responsible for our own happiness. And if you can't be happy and feel fulfilled on your own...your relationships will only become co-dependent ones. They will not fill that void...they will only distract you from it. It's been a long, great lesson for me. I'm finally happy standing on my own.
Wow, well you're doing better than I did. I didn't figure that out until a couple of years after the breakup with the guy I had thought was THE one. What a mess I was. So I figured out what you just wrote above around my 29th birthday. But maybe having a child accelerates things. I would guess so, yes.

Back around 2006 (?) I saw a special on PBS with a man who goes to high schools to talk frankly about relationships and the future with teens. That guys ROCKS. Wish he'd have come to my school! For example, he explained that the average 16 year old girl goes on a date and then thinks..."Oh! He's so cute, he's so sweet, maybe he's the one, just like in my dreams! Oh, I felt out souls meet! Oh, I'm in heaven! We'll probably get married! Oh, I hope I'm not too fat!"..... while the guy is thinking, "Uh, hey Beavis, she's got big boobs, huh-huh". OMG, that is soooo right :lol: Not that guys can't feel or think deep thoughts, but the average drive is just not on the same page. From the time we're 12 we want romantic, fated forever-love, and that doesn't fully hit most males in a real way that makes them act on it until they're like late 20's to 30's. I noticed that, really, in my male friends as well. When men start to get to their 30's they suddenly realize they want a family or at least something real and forever. My husband has admitted that he was a pain in the butt 15 years ago and that we probably wouldn't have gotten along. But then I probably was too :lol:

P.S. A shoutout to Samtkaninchen, a fellow bunny/Häschen in Deutschland! :bunny:
And another smiley I ran across for amygrace lolol :brush_teeth:
 
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:huggy::huggy: to everyone here. :heart:

Nothing to report again from me.
I just had one of those convos with my mother about my future while we were out. *Gulp*. Just stuff like moving out etc. I mean she wasn't being rude or anything, perfectly pleasant, but I just don't like thinking about stuff like that, cos you know, I hate change and well, growing up lol. Well anyway to cut a long story short, I felt some tears welling up and I looked away, and my eyes caught some MJ posters in the supermarket, but the way the box was facing, it was his face looking at me, with that quote "If you enter this world...". It just made me feel calm for some reason and my tears melted away.
Just thought I would share that with y'all.

:hug: I totally understand what you mean! I moved out from my house about a year and a half ago.I'm living with my sister and a friend...the first months were difficult , it was hard to addapt to a new house , and a new life you know? but there are a lot of good things too , we can do what we want without our parents chasing us lol , we have a lot of fun togheter !!
It's hard growing up , but that's life , right? The important is to have fun in between :)


Regarding the boyfriend dilemma... you sound like me when I was 20. I didn't see anything wrong with me, yet no one seemed to want me. Ohhh, I know how that feels :hug:. There are a couple of things I could say and, while I feel they're true, they're not so easy. One is that most guys your age are dicks :lol:. What I mean is, it's a rare catch to find a guy around 20 who will truly commit and endlessly love you. It's like some biological defect. They just don't think & feel like we do at the same age. There are exceptions, of course, but the chances of finding one are slim and we gals waste a lot of time and energy thinking we need that to be happy. But the good news is, men get better as they age. Well, the ones that really become MEN do. Some of them forever remain "guys" and they're just a lost cause. :smilerolleyes: I didn't find Mr Right until I was 29. I know that feels like a million years from now, lol, but it will be there faster than you know what hit you. And the best things tend to come to us when we're not seeking them! You have no idea how weird it is that I'll be 38 (! wtf?!) next week, but as someone in this older position :mello:, I would honestly give you the advice to just try to find some calm within yourself. Have fun while you look your best and have lots of energy, lol! I mean, enjoy life. Hang with friends, pursue your dreams, try not to let emotional longing for fairytales distract you from enjoying this precious time. Because you won't get this time back. I guess it's another biological defect that we women were given this deep need for male approval and companionship when young, right when the guys can't seem to provide it. Like some kind of torture. But we all have to deal with this. :fortuneteller:I predict everyone will find a great guy someday, right when you decide you don't need one :) I know it's a human need to be loved, though. I know. We all have it :heart: :hug: :heart:

Men :doh: They make our life difficult , but we can't live without them right? I SO agree with you about the age , I'm 21 and it's really hard to find a responsable and commited guy around my age! They're so inmature !! I think that's why I always look older men , they give me that sense of being with their feet on the ground if you know what I mean...


Tomorrow morning Im going on holidays :) so I'll be off for a couple of days , Im so gonna miss you guys :hug:

Have a wonderful day :flowers:
 
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:hug: I totally understand what you mean! I moved out from my house about a year and a half ago.I'm living with my sister and a friend...the first months were difficult , it was hard to addapt to a new house , and a new life you know? but there are a lot of good things too , we can do what we want without our parents chasing us lol , we have a lot of fun togheter !!
It's hard growing up , but that's life , right? The important is to have fun in between :)

Tomorow morning Im going on holidays :) soI'll be off for a couple of days , Im so gonna miss you guys :hug:

Have a wonderful day :flowers:

:hug: Yeah I guess so lol. It's just the initial changing. I mean who knows, it's not for definate that I have to move out yet, but obviously one day I will have to lol, don't wanna be living with ma parents forever! I mean I love 'em, buuut :lol:

Have a wonderful holiday, Flor. :flowers: :heart:

I'm just gonna comment on the whole guy thing, if that's okay?
I feel exactly the same, I seem to never get noticed by the guys, whenever I go out, it's always my friends they seem to take interest in, I'm just there to laugh with, to be the good friend etc. I got my first boyfriend at 17, and I'm 18 now. It was good to start with...but then you know, he got bored with me, like they aaaalll do at this age, and started to like my cousin, I was heart-broken, cos it's like story of my life noone sees me for who I am etc.
But I'm sure, Mrs.Music, that you will definately find someone! I believe there is someone out there for everyone. Guys are stupid at this age, you know they only think with one thing...:lol:
But like the girlies said, just have fun and you will really find the guy of your dreams when you least expect :)
 
Mrs. Music said:
It's not even so much that I really look for that perfect relationship you know, it's more like...just getting the confirmation I AM seen...that guys DO like me. Everyone around me gets compliments on their looks or whatever, or has these guys hanging on their butts (lol this is a typical Dutch sentence, hope that doesn't sound weird in Englis)...but I have never gotten such confirmation. That's what's killing me...everytime I see others getting these flirty messages and stuff, it just kills me.
Aw...I see what you mean. :huggy: Maybe your lesson is to get to a point where you don't need that confirmation. ? I mean...I know that getting that kind of assurance is nice...just SOMETHING, as you've said. But really look at that. Really look at WHY it kills you to not be getting that right now. If you felt good enough about yourself, knowing you were truly someone to be seen...it wouldn't matter whether your outer circumstances reflected that or not, would it? If you really loved yourself, you could be in a crowd of a thousand men where none of them so much as glanced at you...and it wouldn't matter. YOU KNOW BETTER. (and they all must be blind! lol) You know...sorry...am I being too philosophical today? :lol: I know at the end of the day you and I both would enjoy some attention...whether we need it or not. So girl, I'll be prayin' for ya that you get your confirmation soon!! I'll ask for some angels to get over there and WAKE THOSE GUYS UP!

Mrs. Music said:
(Heck, a certain 50-year-old would've done for me too...LOL! :shifty: )
Oh hellllz yeah...! :naughty:

Samtkaninchen said:
It has been my greatest wish onetime to be able to talk to MJ about everything and anything, there would have been so much I think we could have talked the roof off ... but now this will remain a dream forever. :no:
:better: I hear you


mjbunny said:
he explained that the average 16 year old girl goes on a date and then thinks..."Oh! He's so cute, he's so sweet, maybe he's the one, just like in my dreams! Oh, I felt out souls meet! Oh, I'm in heaven! We'll probably get married! Oh, I hope I'm not too fat!"..... while the guy is thinking, "Uh, hey Beavis, she's got big boobs, huh-huh". OMG, that is soooo right :lol: Not that guys can't feel or think deep thoughts, but the average drive is just not on the same page.
:lol:...so true.

mjbunny said:
that doesn't fully hit most males in a real way that makes them act on it until they're like late 20's to 30's. I noticed that, really, in my male friends as well. When men start to get to their 30's they suddenly realize they want a family or at least something real and forever.
I've noticed this too! 29 onward is where it's at. Something changes within guys as they end their 20's....

mjbunny said:
And another smiley I ran across for amygrace lolol :brush_teeth:
LMAO...this one cracks me up. Man...that dream will forever haunt me! lol. Note to self: carry a breath mint so you don't have to run off at inopportune moments!
 
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