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I've got to dash back into court. Will have some updates later.
AEG defense attorney Sabrina Strong will resume her questioning.
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Briggs said he wasn't that familiar with Jackson's other assets and what their values were.
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There was a long pause.
"That's correct," Briggs finally said.

Panish then asked about Jackson's other assets.
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Panish asked Briggs whether he was aware that there was a valuation of the Sony-ATV catalog that was $100-$300 million more than his.
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I've got to dash back into court, but Panish did ask Briggs about the differing valuation in front of the jury.
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With that, the judge determined that Briggs could testify about the differing valuation of the Sony-ATV catalog and the jury was brought in.
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Briggs acknowledged that the IRS' assessment for Jackson's share of the Sony-ATV catalog was $100-$300 million more than MJ's debt.
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Panish questioned Briggs about a meeting with the IRS, which got its own assessment on the value of MJ’s interest in the Sony-ATV catalog.
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They said that Briggs just needed to be instructed by the judge that he could answer certain questions due to confidentiality issues.
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AEG’s attorneys however said the company did a conflict check and there wasn’t an issue with Briggs testifying in this case.
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AEG’s attorneys also had the general counsel for Briggs’ company, FTI Consulting, on standby to talk to the judge about any conflicts.
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Estate attorney Howard Weitzman was not available to come to court today, so the judge didn’t hear his concerns.
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Before the jury came in, there were additional discussions about what Briggs would be able to testify about.
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We’re back in session in Jackson vs. AEG Live. Defense damages expert Eric Briggs is back on the stand.
Cross-examination just wrapped up.
 
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I'm going to have to head back into court, but will have some updates later this afternoon.
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Briggs was dismissive of the exercise, saying it was a “math problem.”
AEG's re-direct questioning started shortly after this.
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The ranges went as high as $1.6 billion with merchandise and ticket sales factored in, very similar to projections by the plaintiff’s expert
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... and sold merchandise equal to 7.5% of the tour’s earnings. The results showed that an MJ tour would have earned more than $1 billion.
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Panish then walked Briggs through the math if Jackson did as many shows as U2 or Madonna, had an average ticket price of $108 ... (cont)
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Panish then showed a slide with the 4 highest-grossing concert tours of all time. (Tweeted about this a couple days ago.) U2 topped the list
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... Jackson would earn $400 million if he completed the shows. Briggs agreed that was Hawk’s testimony, but said world tour was a ‘hope.’
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Briggs was also shown deposition testimony by MJ’s attorney, Dennis Hawk, stating he tried to structure a world tour deal so that ... (cont)
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Both Ortega and Paris Jackson in their depositions discussed MJ's plans to go on a world tour after completing the London shows.
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To combat that, Panish showed Briggs testimony from “This Is It” Director Kenny Ortega and Paris Jackson. They discussed the world tour.
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The consultant stuck to his core opinion, that projections of Jackson’s earnings or the idea he’d complete a world tour were speculative.
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Briggs said he saw conflicting headlines about where the donations went, and he couldn’t recall how much the stories said Jackson donated.
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Panish asked whether Briggs looked into the millions that Jackson donated to charities during that tour. Briggs said he read news stories.
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The slide states the HIStory tour broke even, which Briggs also based on AEG exec Paul Gongaware’s testimony.
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Panish asked whether Briggs did any other research on earnings for the Dangerous tour. The consultant said no.
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Regarding a slide that Briggs prepared that showed Jackson’s Dangerous tour lost money, Briggs said it was based on Gongaware’s testimony.
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Panish spent about an hour on his cross-examination, challenging other aspects of consultant Eric Briggs’ testimony.
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A few more updates on the Jackson vs AEG Live trial coming up before the lunch break ends ...
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LOS ANGELES — A former security worker for Michael Jackson told a jury Thursday that he was concerned the singer would overdose on prescription medications in the early 2000s but didn't see signs of impairment in the singer later that decade.

Michael La Perruque said he occasionally went into the singer's hotel room to make sure he was breathing and would often find doctors to treat the pop superstar when he traveled. La Perruque retired from his job as a sheriff's deputy in 2001 to work as the head of Jackson's security detail and frequently traveled with him until 2004.

La Perruque said the singer's children called 911 during a trip to Florida in 2001 or 2002 after their father collapsed in a hallway in a hotel suite at Walt Disney World. He said he found Jackson unconscious, revived him before paramedics arrived and never saw any signs of drugs or alcohol that the singer may have taken.

Paramedics checked out the singer and determined he didn't need further medical attention, La Perruque said.

Deborah Chang, an attorney for Jackson's mother said there was no evidence that the incident was drug-related.

He told jurors that his testimony Thursday was only the second time he had told the story. The first came in a deposition with lawyers for AEG Live LLC, which is being sued by Jackson's mother claiming the company negligently hired the doctor convicted of giving her son a fatal overdose of the anesthetic propofol.

AEG denies it is responsible for the singer's death.

La Perruque stopped working for Jackson in 2004, but returned to oversee his security in late 2007. He said he didn't see any signs that Jackson was impaired during the few months he worked for him again.

He testified he last saw Jackson two weeks before the singer's death and he looked fine, but he noticed that his former boss was skinnier than usual.

La Perruque said he spoke to two of Jackson's doctors about his concerns about the singer's prescription drug use, but that he never spoke directly about it to the singer because he didn't want him to become defensive.

"It was my concern that he may overdose," he said.

He said he knew Jackson had severe back pain and difficulty sleeping. Despite seeing the entertainer impaired, La Perruque said he never saw Jackson take any drugs or saw any signs of medications lying around.

Jackson did try to get help, he said. "He fought very hard to be sober," La Perruque said. "He fought very hard not to be dependent on these prescription medications."

Jackson however kept members of his family away because he knew they were trying to stage an intervention, he said.

He told jurors that Jackson's younger brother Randy arrived at Neverland Ranch one day in a helicopter to speak with his brother about his medication usage. La Perruque said he turned him away.

He said Jackson called him in the middle of the night between 20 and 30 times in the early 2000s and was often mumbling and incoherent. Half those times La Perruque said he went to the singer's room to check on him, and they would start talking.

"I think he was just lonely," La Perruque said. "He wanted somebody to talk to."

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/08/01/5050137/jacksons-security-chief-details.html#storylink=cpy
 
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"Because we live in a world, unfortunately, that headlines created a perception. And that hurts endorsement deals," Briggs said.
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Strong asked why Briggs mentioned the molestation trial if MJ had been acquitted.
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Briggs: The unfortunate perception in the media, it had nothing to do whether he did it or not.
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The perception that MJ had debts could infringe his ability to, for example, go to Citibank, ask money for the tour, Briggs said.
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As using debt as factor in his opinion, Briggs said he meant it in relation to endorsements.
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Briggs said Sony ATV catalogue has the Beatles songs in it, Willie Nelson, others. It's an investment, doesn't event have MJ's music in it.
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Briggs: Everything regarding the catalogue had nothing to do with MJ's ability to make money working.
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Briggs: My specific opinion in projecting income for MJ had he lived, what he would've earned.
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Strong: There's no conflict because that work was not related to this work?
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Strong asked about conflict of interest in this case. Briggs said he participated in the process of checking whether a conflict existed.
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"I do not believe I undervalued that asset," Briggs testified.
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Briggs said a number of business managers made reference of MJ's financial situation.
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Strong said there were testimony that MJ was no longer able to borrow against that asset. Is that consistent?
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Briggs: MJ had limitation to sell or borrow against it. His ability to sell it brings the value down.
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Strong: MJ had control issues?
Briggs: Generally speaking, yes.
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Because you're restricted, you can't do things freely, Briggs said. That's the difference between his valuation and IRS' valuation.
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Briggs said the other is limitation on selling/monetizing. If someone owns part of something, entered into rules, it's not worth fair share.
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Briggs: If there's a party that doesn't have control, they have to sit there as victims. It's how you interpret control.
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One of which has to do with subject of control, Briggs said. If one party can control a business their share is worth more.
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Strong: Why there may be a difference in your valuation and the IRS?
Briggs said there are many reasons, two significant.
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Judge: He's not breaching it, he's looking at me for instruction. If I say he needs to answer, he needs to answer.
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Boyle: The witness has no problem of breaching the confidentiality when Ms. Strong is asking the question.
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Briggs said people were listening and transacting based on his numbers.
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Briggs said his firm always used the same techniques to assess risk, and his valuation was used in loans and plans.
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Strong: Do you believe you undervalued the catalogue at the date of debt?
Briggs: Absolutely not.
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Briggs said his valuation was roughly in line with what MJ owed. Briggs knows who the person doing the appraisal for the IRS is.
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Strong: And your valuation was less than the debt?
Briggs: That's correct.
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Testimony is that MJ's debt was $400 million plus range= $500-700 million for MJ's part alone, about $1.4 billion for entire catalogue.
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Kevin Boyle: IRS valuation for MJ's part of the catalogue was in excess of MJ's debt by range of $100-300 million.
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Strong: What did you value the catalogue?
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The evaluation was done based in the piece that belonged to Michael Jackson, which is 50%, Briggs said.
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Strong asked when MJ Estate attys hired him to valuate the catalogue. Briggs said the work was done in 2010 for the value as of MJ's death.
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Strong: At the instruction of the judge, you told us values of Sony catalogue, right?
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Briggs said he cannot disclose any information regarding the catalogue unless directed by the court.
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Briggs said he has a confidentiality agreement with the Estate of Michael Jackson and other companies he worked for.
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Briggs performed work for Sony ATV, various lenders and investors, like Fortress Capital, and the Estate of Michael Jackson.
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Briggs: We project future income from songs, assess that income to figure out how much the catalogue was worth.
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Strong: You're not here as expert to talk about Sony catalogue? Briggs: That's correct, it had nothing to do with the conclusions of my work
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During deposition, Briggs said he told Jacksons' attorneys that he would not disclose the value of the catalogue to any of the sides.
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Briggs said he takes the confidentiality agreement very seriously and didn't want to violate them.
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Briggs: Because I am under confidentiality agreement with various companies I worked for related to valuation of Sony catalogue.
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Strong: Why were you so uncomfortable answering the questions regarding the Sony ATV catalogue?
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Michael Jackson and Sony corporation own the catalogue 50/50 each.
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"I performed significant amount of work regarding Sony ATV catalogue over the last 5-10 years," the expert said.
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Sabrina Strong did re-direct. Sony ATV catalogue contains Eagles music in and countless others, Briggs explained.
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Judge: I don't think making faces is something I should even have to acknowledge it. Just ignore it.

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Strong: There has been many misrepresentations against me and my colleagues.
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Judge: Mr. Panish, why are you gesturing me?
Panish: Ms. Strong is making faces at me, I didn't want to say anything.

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Panish's calculation: 186 shows x 55,000 people x $108 ticket = $1.1 billion x 7.5% merchandise = approximately $1.2 billion total.
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Briggs testified the range for merchandise is 5-15%. The budget had approximately 7-8% of total revenue tour in merchandise.
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Briggs said Gongaware had intentions based on what he knew then, not now.
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"I understand Mr. Gongaware expressed same intention, and I relied on that," Briggs explained.
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"I believe I considered her testimony, but her testimony was not a foundation or basis for my opinion," Briggs testified.
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Panish asked if Briggs saw Paris' testimony that they were going on world tour.
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"That someone hopes that something is going to happen it doesn't indicate it will happen," Briggs said.
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Panish: Your interpretation of Ortega's deposition is that he's not going on tour?
Briggs: He states here very clearly he had hopes.
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Panish: After the world tour, sir, isn't that true?
Briggs: I don't recall the sequence of events

Panish showed Ortega's deposition.
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Ortega testified that after that, MJ was going to hang his hat up as touring artist and wanted to transition to do movies.
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"Whatever you're doing, you have to come to India' MJ told Ortega and then he said 'Have you ever been to Japan?'
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And MJ continue to tell Ortega that after completing the O2 he wanted to take the show back out and around the world.
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Regarding Kenny Ortega, Panish asked if MJ told Ortega that they were going on a world tour, asked 'Have you ever been to India, you must.'
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Briggs said the word successfully was in the question, and that Hawk answer "no, I have no doubts."
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Panish asked if Hawk testified he had no doubts MJ would complete the shows successfully.
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"He described that as his hope, yes," Briggs said. "He described as hope, not intention."
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Panish: Do you recall Mr. Hawk testified that MJ would get $400 million?
Briggs: Tried to, yes, that's what he hoped.
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Panish asked if Briggs reviewed MJ's lawyer, Dennis Hawk, testimony that MJ was planning to go to Asia on tour. He said yes.
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Briggs said he recalls Gongaware testifying they wanted to go on a world tour after O2 shows.
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The proposal reflected 186 shows, Briggs said. "It appears, based on exhibits I reviewed, that proposal was sent to Mr. Anschutz."
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World tour:
Panish: Was there ever a plan, in writing, from Gongaware for world tour?
Briggs: If you're referencing the Sept. 2008 plan, yes
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Panish: So all the factors were met for the O2 shows?
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"This It It" tour:
Panish: Was there a plan to do O2 shows?
Briggs: Yes
P: Was there an audience?
B: Certainly
P: Was there finance?
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Briggs said no, that there was testimony they could've done at least 100 more shows based on demand.
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Performance risk is whether people would come 2 the show, Briggs said. Panish asked if there was any question people would show for TII tour
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Panish asked what was MJ's cancellation rate for shows. Briggs said he doesn't know for certain.
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Panish: The witness wants to argue with me and not answer the quesitons.
Judge: He's answering the questions.
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Panish: Who put the bullets in the gun?
Briggs: I believe he said it wasn't an appropriate question.
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Briggs testify Dr. Earley said MJ's drug use was like playing Russian roulette.
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Panish asked what "great prognosis" is. Briggs said it means that someone is partaking in actions that's very dangerous.
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Briggs said MJ's history of drug use, long-term effects, and that he was taking drugs in a very dangerous way shortened his life expectancy.
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Briggs: I disagree with your logic, the lack of agreement supports my opinion that it is speculative that the world tour would happen.
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Panish asked if mattered that there was no agreement beyond the 50 shows, since w/ agreement, it would be speculative in his opinion anyway.
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"It was speculative whether the world tour would happen," Briggs said.
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Briggs: Our discussion was very high level, we spoke about the industry, friends in the industry, generic subjects.
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No one told Briggs that he shouldn't ask Gongaware questions. Panish asked if he spoke with Gongaware about this case.
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Panish: Where you there meeting with the lawyers?
Briggs: Yes
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Briggs doesn't know how much money MJ donated from the "HIStory" tour.

Briggs said he met Gongaware at the AEG's lawyers office.
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"My recollection was non-profit organization established and there were conflicting headlines as to what was going in entity," Briggs said.
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Panish: Did he give it to orphanages in India during that tour?
Briggs: I don't recall that specifically.
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Panish asked if Briggs knew how much money MJ donated to charity from that tour. He said he doesn't know.
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Panish: How do you know "HIStory" broke even?
Briggs: I relied on Paul Gongaware's statement.
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Briggs: I did not check the veracity of the information. I relied exclusively on his statement.
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Panish: Just a fact that he made the statement was good enough for you to rely on?
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Briggs said he cannot speak to specific knowledge of what Gongaware had. The expert said Gongaware made it very clear the tour lost money.
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Panish: Did you know MJ went into rehabilitation?
Briggs: I know he ended the tour and entered a rehabilitation.
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Briggs: I understood he was involved in the production of the show and had knowledge to make that statement.
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Panish: Did Mr. Gongaware deal with the artist in the tour?
Briggs: They are dealing with many different factors, including the artist, MJ.
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Panish asked what was Gongaware's involvement in "Dangerous" tour. Briggs said he believed he was involved in the production of the show.
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Panish: You'd expect he would know what was going on, right, sir?
Briggs: I'd expect he had information that supported that statement
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Panish said Gongaware is one of the defendants in this case. Briggs said he relied on his testimony.
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Panish showed a chart with MJ's "Net" Earnings from Tours. Briggs said he relied on Paul Gongaware's statement saying "Dangerous" lost money
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Panish said MJ had his own music catalogue, in addition to the other assets. Briggs agreed. The value was just for the Sony ATV catalogue.
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Briggs: I understand there were other assets.
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Panish: And that Mr. Jackson had more assets, this was just one of them and it was valued 100 to 300 million in excess to the debt, correct?
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Panish asked if independent appraiser hired by the IRS valued Sony ATV catalogue between 100 and 300 million. Briggs said "that's correct."
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Katherine Jackson was present in court, wearing a navy blue jacket with white dots.
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Eric Briggs was back on the stand, resumed cross examination. Jacksons' attorney, Brian Panish, did the questioning.
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Hello everyone! Busy day at the courthouse today! Day 61 of Jackson family vs AEG trial, Week 14, has concluded.
 
Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 61 - August 1 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

Michael Jackson estate denies allowing expert to help AEG Live
By Alan Duke, CNN

updated 10:14 PM EDT, Thu August 1, 2013

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
AEG Live's consultant testifies Michael Jackson's estate waived its conflict of interest
A Jackson estate lawyer contradicts testimony of consultant Eric Briggs
The IRS is challenging Briggs' valuation of Jackson's share of huge music catalog
Briggs calls assertions of Jackson's potential earnings "speculative"

Los Angeles (CNN) -- Michael Jackson's estate never gave an expert it hired permission to help AEG Live defend against the wrongful death lawsuit filed by Jackson's mother and children, the estate's top lawyer said Thursday.
The revelation raised questioned about the testimony of entertainment industry consultant Eric Briggs, who was hired by AEG Live to challenge the Jacksons' expert opinions concerning damages the concert promoter might owe if found liable in the singer's death.

Briggs told the court this week that his company -- FTI Consultants -- had gotten a waiver from a Jackson estate lawyer before agreeing to work on the concert promoter's defense.

Briggs had signed a confidentiality agreement with the Jackson estate in 2010 when he was hired to determine the value of its biggest asset -- the Sony-ATV music catalog that includes the Beatles songs -- for the estate's tax filings in 2010.

He was hired by AEG Live lawyers in February to prepare a challenge of the opinion of an expert hired by the Jackson lawyers to calculate how much money the singer would have earned had he not died while working on his comeback concerts in 2009.

Briggs said he -- or someone else in his company -- gained permission from the Jackson estate lawyer Jeryll Cohen to waive any potential conflict of interest.

"No one from the estate or any lawyers authorized or waived any potential conflict for FTI or Mr. Briggs," Jackson estate attorney Howard Weitzman wrote in an e-mail read in court Thursday.

Such a waiver would be counter to the interests of the estate's beneficiaries -- Jackson's mother and three children, a Jackson lawyer said.

Despite the conflict, the judge ordered Briggs to answer questions posed by Katherine Jackson's lawyers about the music catalog. He said although his valuation placed Jackson's interest in the catalog at about the same level as Jackson's debt at the time of his death -- which he said was $400 million -- the IRS challenged it as low.

An independent analyst hired by the IRS concluded he had undervalued Jackson's interest in the catalog by up to $300 million, Briggs testified.

Jackson lawyers argue it is evidence the singer was not broke when he died, contrary to what Briggs said in his testimony.

Briggs testified this week that it was his opinion that it was speculative that Jackson would have earned a dime more in his life if he had not died of a propofol overdose on June 25, 2009. He based his opinion the testimony of a doctor who said earlier that he did not think Jackson would have lived even another week past that date.

Panish, however, pointed out that the doctor's opinion was based on the assumption that Dr. Conrad Murray would still be giving Jackson nightly infusions of propofol -- the surgical anesthetic the coroner said killed him -- as a treatment for insomnia. The Jackson's suit contends AEG Live is liable because it negligently hired, retained or supervised Murray.
 
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LaPerruque: We would get to a hotel and he would ask me to get the hotel physician.
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LaPerruque: He would have a physician present, also when we would go out and were staying somewhere he'd have me call a physician.
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LaPerruque never lived at Neverland Ranch.

Putnam: Was there a period of time he was with a doctor on a daily basis?
LaPerruque: Yes
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LaPerruque: Anytime MJ stepped out of the property for extended period, going to LA or around the world, I was activated to accompany him.
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LaPerruque was in charge of Mr. Jackson's protection and the protection of his children. He consulted regarding Neverland security.
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Putnam: Is it fair to say you quit your job with the Sheriff's Department to work for Michael Jackson?
LaPerruque: I retired.
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In December 2001, LaPerruque was asked to be full time and head the security of Michael Jackson. For the NY trip, LaPerruque used vacation.
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He went with MJ to NY to provide security at 30th anniversary of Madison Square Garden.
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MJ was shooting short film at the lot, so LaPerruque was asked to provide security some times.
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The nanny would call him if they needed anything for MJ or the children.
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LaPerruque stayed at the Universal Hilton, there was a room for him. MJ and the children, nanny, personal security team were there as well.
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Earlier in the summer/01, while still at the Sheriff's Dept, LaPerruque said man with MJ security asked for help at the Universal Hilton.
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Putnam asked if LaPerruque was trained to identify people intoxicated. He said yes, he attended drug intoxication courses.
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First full time gig in private security was in December 2001. He was with the Sheriff's Department prior to that for 22 1/2 years.
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MJ hired LaPerruque 5-10 times in the Summer of 2001. He was hired full time in December 2001 and was under employment until 2004.
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LaPerruque: I'm a security specialist, provide security for high profile people, celebrities, estate. I worked for Michael and Janet Jackson
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Putnam: Are you rooting for either side?
LaPerruque: No, I'm not rooting for any side
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Atty Marvin Putnam did the questioning. He asked if LaPerruque met with attorneys from defense and plaintiff prior to testimony. He said yes
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After lunch, AEG called their next witness out of order, Michael LaPerruque. He is unavailable at other times.
 
Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 61 - August 1 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

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LaPerruque: MJ saw me and said Mike! Came running to me, gave me a big hug. He asked if they could talk, I took him to a private room.
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LaPerruque said he saw MJ about 2 weeks prior to his death. He was working for Janet, she threw a party for their parents at a restaurant.
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LaPerruque said he never thought of selling his story to the tabloids.
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"I was mad, but not mad at him," LaPerruque said. "Because of what I heard why we stopped working together." (financial reasons)
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LaPerruque retained an attorney to speak with MJ's reps to enforce agreement they had. They settled.
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LaPerruque said he tried calling MJ several times about getting paid but never heard back.
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MJ then moved to Las Vegas. He spoke with Raymone Bain, who said MJ had moved. He never heard from anyone about working again.
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This was in November 2007. He still didn't get paid.
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LaPerruque spoke with MJ. "He said he was very embarrassed not being able to pay me, he said he was going to make it right, apologized."
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He stopped in the beginning of 2008. Work began in August of 2007, got paid in September and didn't get paid anymore until 2008.
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"The production company wasn't paying me for my services," LaPerruque testified.
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LaPerruque said he stopped working for MJ due to financial difficulties. "I wasn't getting paid," LaPerruque explained.
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LaPerruque said he did not have any concern with MJ being under the influence of prescription drug in 2007.
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The security head never told AEG about any of the concerns he had with Michael Jackson.
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LaPerruque said he seemed happy, did not ask about how the meeting went.
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The meeting lasted a couple of hours, LaPerruque said. He escorted MJ to Penn Station, he wanted to pick up some doughnuts for the kids.
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"Michael seemed bright and alert at this meeting. He seemed excited," LaPerruque said.
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During this time, LaPerruque took MJ to NYC to meet with AEG Live execs. He escorted MJ into the room, probably 10 people or more present.
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LaPerruque had a written agreement to work as head of security for Michael Jackson. He worked for him for only a few months in 07.
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Based on the meeting, that's why he went back to work with him in 2007. His job was the same as before. He spoke with Raymone Bain.
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LaPerruque said Michael appeared bright, clear, energetic, full of energy. He wanted to do a lot of things.
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They met face to face, since the last time they spoke was in the Arvizo trial. He wanted to hear what MJ wanted him back.
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After meeting with him and speaking with his manager at the time, LaPerruque left the LA Times and went to work for Michael Jackson.
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LaPerruque: At that time, my children had grown older, started their own things, always enjoyed the challenge working for MJ.
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"He kind of grew on me," LaPerruque explained. "I did care for the man."
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LaPerruque: MJ always appreciated my loyalty, best security he ever had, asked me to return to work for him.
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Grace Rwamba called LaPerruque and said she wanted to meet him, had a message from Michael Jackson.
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In 2007, LaPerruque went back to work for Michael Jackson. He was still the head of security of the LA Times.
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He also worked on internal investigations, security of journalists working on hostile environment in Iraq.
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LaPerruque took other jobs. He became in charge for the security of LA Times printing plants and security of corporate office.
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LaPerruque said the other reason was the revenue stream, which was harder and harder, and financial matters were becoming an issue.
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LaPerruque: He and I had discussed me taking some time off.
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He said he saw MJ's litigation with the Arvizo family (molestation accusation), had been in court before and knew how demanding it was.
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LaPerruque: I was never home, I missed a lot my children, birthdays, holidays.
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First, he had two young children and at the service of MJ you work at his pleasure, you never had set schedule.
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LaPerruque said there were two reasons he stopped working for MJ.
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"I never saw him swallow a pill, never saw him take injections," LaPerruque testified.
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Putnam: Did you ever have an impression Mr. Jackson was trying to hide drugs from you?
LaPerruque: No.
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Putnam: Did you have any understanding MJ was taking Propofol?
LaPerruque: No

LaPerruque never discussed using Propofol with MJ.
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LaPerruque: There was one occasion I took him the doctor and I assumed he was there to see if he could find anything to help him sleep.
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LaPerruque said Michael told him he had trouble sleeping.

LaPerruque: He was trying to find something that would help him sleep.
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"He demanded to see Michael," LaPerruque recalled. "I told him that MJ said he didn't want to see any of his family members at the time."
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LaPerruque: I was at the front gate, saw private helicopter flying very low over Neverland. Randy Jackson was in the helicopter.
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"It was requested by Mr. Jackson," LaPerruque said.

Putnam: He wanted to make sure his family members didn't come thru?
LaPerruque: Yes
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LaPerruque: He told me that his family would be coming over to the rancho to speak with him and asked me to interface with his relatives.
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LaPerruque remembers in 2001 Jackson family attempting an intervention. MJ asked him to come up to the ranch right away.
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LaPerruque did not see any scarring regarding an implant. He was told by a physician, and judge didn't let him continue since it's hearsay.
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Putnam: Did you ever understand MJ had surgical procedure implant to help him get off of drugs?
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The first time LaPerruque told anyone about this incident was in his deposition. Today in court was the second time.
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Putnam: Did you consider you could've made a lot of money?
LaPerruque: No
P: Why?
LP: Because I had a commitment to Michael Jackson.
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Putnam: Did you speak with anyone about that incident before?
LaPerruque: No
P: Did you ever consider letting the tabloids know?
LP: No
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LaPerruque would take MJ to doctors appointments, normally in Beverly Hills.He'd call building security alerting they were on the way.
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Putnam: Why didn't you talk to Mr. Jackson about it?
LaPerruque: Because I didn't think it was my place.
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Putnam: Did he ever thank you for coming over and helping him?
LaPerruque: No
P: Did anyone thank you?
LP: No
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LaPerruque said they left shortly thereafter. "I was just told we were gonna leave."

LaPerruque never discussed this incident with MJ.
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LaPerruque: Just to make sure that was no further embarrassment on Mr. Jackson's part.
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LaPerruque asked the paramedics to put on their report the name he checked himself under, not MJ name.
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LaPerruque: He was cleared, they told me he had to see a physician.
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LaPerruque tried to cancel paramedics, but they were arriving. He told them he found MJ and paramedics said they had to check him anyway.
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"He became conscious, I wouldn't say alert, but conscious," LaPerruque said. Putnam asked if he was groggy. He said yes.
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Putnam: Did you have to do mouth-to-mouth?
LaPerruque: I did
P: Did you see any drugs?
LP: No
P: Alcohol?
LP: Not that I recall
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LaPerruque: I had to check for pulse, turned him over, shook him, ultimately was breathing. I was able to wake him up, took him to his room.
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LaPerruque: I found Mr. Jackson in the hallway in the suite proned, unconscious.
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LaPerruque: I was able to go into the room, had called security partner to meet at the room as well to take the two children to nanny's room
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LaPerruque: I grabbed Mr. Jackson's keys and found Prince and Paris crying. They were crying saying they couldn't wake up daddy.
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LaPerruque would set up times to have MJ's room cleaned.
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LaPerruque said they would check in under assumed name. Room service would come to him and he would take it to MJ's room.
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LaPerruque: I was in my room, received phone call from hotel security that someone had called 911 from MJ's hotel room, like young children.
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They were staying at a Disney hotel. LaPerruque doesn't think a doctor traveled along. He stayed in a different room from MJ and kids.
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LaPerruque went a couple of times with MJ and his children to Disney World in Florida. There was a medical emergency once in 2001 or 2002.
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The security head said he never saw, anywhere, prescription drugs in MJ's hotel room or at Neverland.
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LaPerruque never saw MJ do drugs or take prescription medication. He did see open wine bottles in his room.
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"It was my concern he would overdose," LaPerruque testified.
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LaPerruque said that when he was with the sheriff's department he saw a number of people overdose and taken to emergency room.
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Putnam: Where you concern it could cause overdose?
LaPerruque: Yes.
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Putnam asked how he knew and he said he'd have discussions with the doctors and they would tell him.
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"He would have the doctors treating him to get him off the harder narcotics," LaPerruque said.
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LaPerruque understood that MJ was working hard to battle the prescription medication dependency.
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One day, LaPerruque said MJ told him he was clear. 'I just want you to know I'm going to stay this way,' LaPerruque said MJ told him.
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"He fought very hard to not be dependent on prescription medication," LaPerruque testified.
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LaPerruque: He knew I was there, he knew I saw him. There were times he fought very, very hard not to be dependent of those medications.
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"I wanted to be close to him, to protect him, to watch him," LaPerruque testified.
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LaPerruque: I believe he knew that I knew what was going. To bring up that conversation would put him on defensive, have barriers between us
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LaPerruque said they had some issues related to workload and work schedule, but for the most part it was a pleasure to work with Mr. Jackson
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Putnam: Did you like Mr. Jackson?
LaPerruque: Very much!

Putnam: Was there a time you didn't like Mr. Jackson?
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LaPerruque: There are some professional lines you don't cross and I think it was not my place.
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LaPerruque said speaking with MJ about it would be crossing the line. Even though he developed close relationship, needed to have a distance
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Putnam: Why did you do that, sir?
LaPerruque: It was part of my job.
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LaPerruque: I'd take him back to his room and make sure he was okay. I would seat there and make sure that he was breathing.
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"He had slurred speech, incoherent, looked like he was going unconscious," LaPerruque said.
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LaPerruque: In rare occasions, there were times he seemed to be under the influence of drugs in meetings, had to be taken back to his room.
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LaPerruque'd knock on MJ's door, escort him to the room meeting would take place. He'd wait outside the door and escort MJ back to the room
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People were given LaPerruque's cell number and would leave him messages for Michael.
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LaPerruque: Mr. Jackson had propensity of losing his cell phone. I think I counted he lost 27 cell phones (jury laughs).
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LaPerruque: Any kind of emails and phone calls came to me. I'd relay the message to him, would go to his room to slip a note under the door.
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LaPerruque: Few times in the middle of the day I'd go into his room and he'd be displaying signs of being under the influence.
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Putnam asked if LaPerruque spoke with MJ's family members or business associates.

"I didn't believe it was my place to do that," he said.
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LaPerruque: I knew they (the doctors) would be treating Mr. Jackson and wanted them to have a clear picture going in.
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LaPerruque said his job was not only to protect MJ from fans or outside causes, but "I took it upon myself to take care of Mr. Jackson."
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Putnam: What were you concerned?
LaPerruque: Just his general health, it seemed the frequency of the intoxication to be more occurring
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LaPerruque spoke with Dr. Slavitch, Dr. Farshchian and Grace Rwamba about his concerns with MJ.
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The relationship between Dr. Farshchian and MJ was already established when LaPerruque began working for the artist.
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He was one of the physicians that traveled with MJ, LaPerruque said, probably chosen by MJ.
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He also spoke with Grace Rwamba, MJ's children nanny at the time, about his concerns and Dr. Alimorad "Alex" Farshchian in Miami, Florida.
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"I was worried about his health," LaPerruque testified.
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LaPerruque spoke with Dr Slavitch from San Francisco. He said he became worried about MJ due to numerous times he saw MJ under the influence
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"I never performed any tests but the symptoms he was displaying were consistent with being under the influence," LaPerruque testified.
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LaPerruque: Because the objective symptoms he was displaying, slurred speech, nod.
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Putnam asked what made LaPerruque think he was under the influence of drugs.
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"I knew he had unusual sleep patterns," LaPerruque said. "I think he was just lonely and wanted somebody to talk to."
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LaPerruque: He asked questions about the next day's schedule, asked questions over and over.
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LaPerruque: He wouldn't be very coherent, slurred speech, trying to fall asleep, incomprehensible
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Another 10 to 15 times, he wasn't asked to go to MJ's room, LaPerruque said. Total would be between 20 and 30 times.
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Putnam: How many times did you go to his room?
LaPerruque: Through the course of employment, probably 10 to 15 times.
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"It's just slurred speech, sort of mumbling," LaPerruque said. He would be sleeping when MJ called.
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"We would be in the room and he seemed to have a hard time," he said.

Putnam: Did he speak in an incoherent manner?
LaPerruque: Yes
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The security head said he would be asked to go to MJ's room, he had a key. "I would go to his room to make sure he was ok," LaPerruque said.
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"His speech would be very slurred, it would be a lot of mumbling, wouldn't understand him sometimes," LaPerruque described.
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LaPerruque said there were 3 times he was at a hotel and got a phone call in the middle of the night.
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Putnam: From Dec. 2001 to 2004, did you believe Mr. Jackson was under the influence of drugs?
LaPerruque: Yes
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If doctor came along, it would be someone Mr. Jackson knew and they would have a hotel room. LaPerruque did not help find those doctors.
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LaPerruque testified he learned the client's needs and after been asked many times to find hotel doctor he understood it was part of his job
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"It became commonplace to have a physician ready upon arrivals at hotels," LaPerruque said.
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LaPerruque would call the doctor. He said MJ complained about back pains, but he didn't ask every single time what the complaint was.
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LaPerruque: I would go down to the concierge and ask if they had doctors they work with and get recommendation.
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LaPerruque: We would get to a hotel and he would ask me to get the hotel physician.
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LaPerruque: He would have a physician present, also when we would go out and were staying somewhere he'd have me call a physician.
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LaPerruque never lived at Neverland Ranch.

Putnam: Was there a period of time he was with a doctor on a daily basis?
LaPerruque: Yes
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LaPerruque: Anytime MJ stepped out of the property for extended period, going to LA or around the world, I was activated to accompany him.
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LaPerruque was in charge of Mr. Jackson's protection and the protection of his children. He consulted regarding Neverland security.
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Putnam: Is it fair to say you quit your job with the Sheriff's Department to work for Michael Jackson?
LaPerruque: I retired.
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In December 2001, LaPerruque was asked to be full time and head the security of Michael Jackson. For the NY trip, LaPerruque used vacation.
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He went with MJ to NY to provide security at 30th anniversary of Madison Square Garden.
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MJ was shooting short film at the lot, so LaPerruque was asked to provide security some times.
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The nanny would call him if they needed anything for MJ or the children.
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LaPerruque stayed at the Universal Hilton, there was a room for him. MJ and the children, nanny, personal security team were there as well.
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Earlier in the summer/01, while still at the Sheriff's Dept, LaPerruque said man with MJ security asked for help at the Universal Hilton.
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Putnam asked if LaPerruque was trained to identify people intoxicated. He said yes, he attended drug intoxication courses.
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First full time gig in private security was in December 2001. He was with the Sheriff's Department prior to that for 22 1/2 years.
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MJ hired LaPerruque 5-10 times in the Summer of 2001. He was hired full time in December 2001 and was under employment until 2004.
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LaPerruque: I'm a security specialist, provide security for high profile people, celebrities, estate. I worked for Michael and Janet Jackson
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Putnam: Are you rooting for either side?
LaPerruque: No, I'm not rooting for any side
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Atty Marvin Putnam did the questioning. He asked if LaPerruque met with attorneys from defense and plaintiff prior to testimony. He said yes
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After lunch, AEG called their next witness out of order, Michael LaPerruque. He is unavailable at other times.
 
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Judge then adjourned trial. There is no court today, session resumes 10 am PT on Monday. LaPerruque ordered back to resume testifying.
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LaPerruque said MJ was very down to earth, never bragged about all the awards he received.
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MJ received the 2002 American Music Award Artist of the Century. Chang showed the video of the announcement.
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Chang: Did MJ write that song in benefit of 9/11 victims?
LaPerruque: Yes
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Chang showed video of music "What More Can I Give" with several high profile artists singing it, like Celine Dion, Beyonce, Gloria Estefan
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"I never experienced anything like this," LaPerruque testified.
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Chang: How would you describe MJ that night?
LaPerruque: He was fantastic
Shows were on Sept 7 and Sept 10, 2001, day before 9/11.
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Chang showed video of Liz Taylor presenting Michael Jackson. LaPerruque said MJ's fans were deafening, nothing like he had ever seen before.
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LaPerruque received phone calls from President Clinton, Elizabeth Taylor, Gregory Peck, Marlon Brando, world leaders looking for MJ.
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Chang: Were you very proud of working for MJ?
LaPerruque: I was
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Chang asked if LaPerruque saw MJ doing anything that could put the kids at risk, if he would've called Child Services. He said absolutely.
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LaPerruque said the majority of time he traveled with MJ he wasn't under the influence.
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He knows MJ wanted to be clear and was motivated in the worse way.

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The security head said he would not be able to say MJ was addicted to Demerol or painkillers.
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LaPerruque never saw any prescription drug in MJ's room, never saw him hooked up to IV lines. He only saw MJ drink wine once in a plane.
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Chang asked if most of the times LaPerruque heard MJ slur his voice on the phone was during the night. He said yes.
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LaPerruque said he knew MJ had vitiligo and needed treatment. He said MJ complained of back pain.
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LaPerruque: Yes, it devastated him.
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LP: Yes
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LaPerruque asked how MJ reacted in regards to the accusations, when all he wanted to do was to take care of children.
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Chang: Did you believe the Arvizo charges to be false?
LaPerruque: Correct.

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Chang: Was he devastated for what he believed to be violation of that trust?
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Total time LaPerruque worked for MJ was 3 years. The only time he saw MJ under influence of drugs in 2001-2004.
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LaPerruque said MJ had thousands of fans everywhere in the world. Chang showed a picture of LaPerruque helping MJ with a left foot casted.
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LaPerruque explained he not only try to protect the client from outside sources, but from embarrassing himself.
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LaPerruque: There was always a concern of kidnapping him or his children to hold for ransom.
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Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 61 - August 1 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

Michael Jackson's former security chief describes medical emergency
Thursday, August 01, 2013

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LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- Jurors heard from Michael Jackson's former security chief during the Jackson family's wrongful death trial on Thursday. They learned about a medical emergency involving the pop star that few people had known about.

About six years before Jackson stopped breathing in his Holmby Hills home, he fell unconscious at an Orlando hotel, according to his security director, Michael La Perruque.

La Perruque, a former Los Angeles sheriff's deputy, testified about an incident he says he has never disclosed publicly until now. He says hotel security alerted him that Jackson's children had called paramedics.

La Perruque said, "I found the two children crying. Prince and Paris, they were crying. They were saying they couldn't wake up daddy."

He told the jury that Jackson had collapsed on the floor but was still breathing. La Perruque said he helped Jackson get to bed, where he came to. AEG defense attorney Marvin Putnam asked if he later discussed the incident with Jackson.

La Perruque said no and that he didn't think it was his place to discuss it.

La Perruque worked for Jackson between 2001 and 2004, a time in which Jackson sought help from Dr. Alimorad Farshchian for addiction to Demerol and received an implant to inhibit the drug's effects.

La Perruque testified that he had concerns that Jackson may overdose and that 10 to 15 times he had observed Jackson slurring his speech, mumbling and nodding off in meetings.

Despite the episodes, La Perruque says he never saw meds in Jackson's hotel room or saw him take medications.

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La Perruque described a failed intervention at Neverland Ranch in 2001. He said Jackson's brother Randy hired a helicopter to breach the perimeter and land on the grounds. He said that Jackson asked to have Randy sent away. La Perruque said he complied.

The AEG defense contends that the company should not be held liable for Jackson's death because AEG didn't know about medical conditions that Jackson kept secret and that Jackson insulated himself, even from his family.

The plaintiffs elicited testimony that the times Jackson was slurring his speech could have been from a sleeping pill because the star struggled with insomnia. La Perruque stated that there was no indication that the singer was taking any drugs in front of his children and that if he thought the children were endangered, he would have called authorities.

La Perruque will continue his testimony on Monday when the trial resumes.
 
Michael Jackson's survivors vs. AEG: a gold mine for witnesses


Wrongful-death suit means lots of expert medical and business testimony. And that means each side pays big bucks to those who take the stand.

A lot of people are making a lot of money off the Michael Jackson wrongful-death case — and then there are the lawyers.


Witnesses in the case are being paid huge sums to analyze the pop star's earning power, his health, his popularity, even his inability to get a good night's sleep.


Attorneys representing concert promoter AEG Live on the one side and Jackson's mother and his three children on the other have so far spent around $1 million just on experts who have testified about how much money the singer could have earned had he not died in 2009 from an overdose of the anesthetic propofol.


That doesn't include physicians who are also being paid as expert witnesses. One of them, Dr. Charles Czeisler, a Harvard University sleep expert, testified how propofol may have affected Jackson. He was paid $950 an hour.


"For $950 an hour, can you please keep your answers short?" said attorney Michael Koskoff, drawing laughter from jurors.


The stakes in the lawsuit, in its third month and counting, are enormous — at least in terms of dollars. Each side is bringing in highly paid experts to convince jurors of their case, sometimes leading to dueling witnesses.


Certified public accountant Arthur Erk, testifying for the Jacksons, calculated that the singer could have made $1.5 billion if his doomed "This Is It" concert series in London had blossomed into a world tour, and an additional $500 million from subsequent tours, endorsements and merchandise sales.


Erk told jurors that he was being paid $475 an hour and that his firm had so far billed $332,500. The clock was ticking as he sat on the witness stand, telling the jury how much he was making.


AEG's expert was Eric Briggs, a senior managing director at FTI Consulting in Century City. He said it was speculative to think Jackson would earn anything at all because of his drug use, erratic behavior and track record of canceling shows. The notion that he could even pull off such an ambitious tour was doubtful, he said.


Briggs testified that he was costing AEG $800 an hour and that he had already spent about 350 hours on the case. He said his team put in 500 to 600 hours and that they had billed AEG between $600,000 and $700,000.


From the beating he took on the stand from Jackson attorney Brian Panish, he might not have thought that was enough.


One of the consultants who worked with him, Briggs testified, was a year out of college. Briggs said he had done "general research," such as finding out the capacities of arenas where Erk said Jackson might perform during his world tour.


The recently graduated consultant charged $350 an hour.


So whom are the 12 jurors to believe?


USC law professor Jody Armour said people tend to think of experts as neutral observers reciting facts.


"But these experts are actually trying to persuade the jury that their version is the version they should buy," he said. "It's an odd role these scientific experts are thrown into."


The Jacksons have sued AEG Live and two of its executives, alleging that the entertainment company negligently hired and controlled Dr. Conrad Murray, who administered the fatal dose of propofol to Jackson. AEG says the singer hired Murray and that any money the company was supposed to pay the doctor was part of an advance to Jackson.


When the dollar stakes are far lower, plaintiffs' attorneys, who usually foot the bill for experts, must think twice before taking a case. The amount they can collect — even if they win — might make it not worth their time, lawyers said.


Expert testimony can backfire. The Jacksons' attorneys liked the deposition of AEG expert Dr. Paul Early so much that they played portions of it during the trial. Early testified that addicts shouldn't be blamed for their problem.


AEG has not called him to the witness stand.


The fees that witnesses charge can vary greatly. Gordon Matheson, head of Stanford University's sports medicine program, testified as an expert for the first time. His fee was $500 an hour. Matheson testified that Murray had conflicts of interest that would probably lead to poor medical decisions.


Dr. Daniel Wohlgelernter, a cardiologist who testified for the Jacksons, said he receives about 20% of his income as an expert witness. He said he had testified in 31 trials and been retained as an expert in 400 cases. He was paid $4,250 for half a day of testimony and $450 an hour to prepare.


Czeisler, the Harvard sleep expert, testified for the Jacksons for several days. AEG's attorneys argued that though he may be a world-renowned sleep expert, he wasn't an expert on propofol.


That forced the Jacksons' attorneys to call anesthesiologist Emery Brown, who holds endowed chairs at Harvard and MIT and is considered one of the world's experts on the anesthetic.


Brown, who testified in a video deposition, said he was being paid $1,000 an hour but that he was donating his $75,000 fee to Massachusetts General Hospital.


Jurors, Armour said, often suspect that one side or the other is buying an expert to provide the testimony it wants. Brown's contribution, Armour said, boosts his credibility to the jury.


"He's donating it all to charity, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, so this is coming from the heart," Armour said. "It's a bowl-you-over rhetorical move to make."


jeff.gottlieb@latimes.com

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-jackson-witnesses-20130804,0,6127172.story
 
Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 61 - August 1 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

Michael Jackson's ex-bodyguard testifies about singer's drug use
By Alan Duke, CNN
updated 9:55 AM EDT, Mon August 5, 2013
The death in 2009 of superstar Michael Jackson, who died of cardiac arrest at the age of 50, sent shockwaves around the world. The death in 2009 of superstar Michael Jackson, who died of cardiac arrest at the age of 50, sent shockwaves around the world.
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Michael LePerruque traveled with Michael Jackson for three years a decade ago
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Although he was called to testify by AEG Live, he spoke glowingly of Jackson

Los Angeles (CNN) -- Michael Jackson's former security chief testified that he worried at times that the singer might overdose on drugs, but he didn't think he was an addict.
Michael LePerruque, who traveled with the pop icon for three years a decade ago, returns to the stand Monday for more testimony in the wrongful death trial of Jackson's last concert promoter.
AEG Live called LePerruque as a witness in an effort to show jurors that Jackson was a secretive drug addict, making it impossible for its executives to know his life was in danger as he prepared for his comeback tour.
Michael Jackson's mother and three children are suing the promoter, contending the company is liable in his death because it negligently hired, retained or supervised Dr. Conrad Murray, the physician convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's death.
LePerruque, however, spoke glowingly of Jackson and after his first day of testimony last week he sought out Katherine Jackson to give his former boss's mother a hug.
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He was hired as the chief of Jackson's travel security team after he retired from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, where he served as a deputy for 22 years. Part of his training involved recognition of when someone was under the influence of drugs, he said.
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Jackson called him between 20 and 30 times from his hotel room "in the middle of the night," LePerruque testified. "His speech would be very slurred. There would be a lot of mumbling, and I wouldn't be able to comprehend what he was saying."
He would go to Jackson's room many of those nights to check to make sure he was alright, he said. He appeared to be intoxicated, he said. "I think he was just lonely and wanted to have somebody to talk to."
Under cross examination by Jackson lawyer Deborah Chang, LePerruque said Jackson's intoxication appeared to be consistent with someone drinking alcohol and taking sedatives to sleep.
Did he think he was addicted to drugs? "I wouldn't be able to say that he was addicted to those," he answered.
The security chief said he would sometimes notice empty wine bottles from the hotel room's minibar, but he never saw drugs. He also never witnessed Jackson take medications, he said.
He described a scary incident in 2001 when Jackson's children dialed 911 for help when they found their father passed out in the hallway of their suite at a Disney World hotel in Orlando, Florida.
Paris and Prince, then just 3 and 4 years old, were "crying, saying they couldn't wake up daddy," he testified. Jackson woke up after LePerruque performed mouth-to-mouth resuscitation and shook him, he said. Paramedics found no signs of a drug overdose, he said.
"It was my concern that, yes, he may overdose," LePerruque said.
LePerruque said he never confronted Jackson about his drug use because he "didn't want to put him on the defensive." To do so might have created a barrier, he said. "I wanted to be able to be close to him to monitor him to protect him."
The incidents of slurred speech and incoherent late night phone calls did not happen over the entire time LePerruque worked with Jackson, he said.
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Jackson "fought very, very hard not to be on the prescription medications," LaPerruque testified.
He told of one conversation in which Jackson told him he was not going to use drugs again.
"Do I seem clear?" he said Jackson asked him. "I just want you to know that I'm going to stay this way, that I'm not going back to the way I was."
Their late night talks revealed to the guard that Jackson had trouble getting to sleep, a problem that would eventually lead to his death. He told him he couldn't sleep because his brain wouldn't stop creating music.
"He said that as an artist he always had a tune in his head, different melodies, and he wasn't able to stop it," La Perruque said. "It was always constant going through his brain.
The coroner ruled that Jackson died of an overdose of propofol, which Murray told investigators he was using to treat the singer's insomnia.
The incidents in which Jackson appeared to be under the influence of alcohol and drugs became more frequent after the broadcast of a documentary based on Martin Bashir's extensive interviews with him. LaPerruque said Jackson was "very devastated" by what he thought was the betrayal of trust he had with Bashir. Child molestation charges were filed in Santa Barbara County, California, after the broadcast.
LaPerruque said he never believed the criminal charges against Jackson were true. If he suspected he was molesting children he would be the first to slap handcuffs on him, he said.
"I came out in full support of him," LaPerruque said.
Jackson was acquitted on all charges after a trial.
LaParruque called Jackson "very down to earth," saying he was proud to have worked for him.
"There were times there were difficulties, but for the most part it was a pleasure working for him," he said.
He noted that one problem Jackson had was keeping up with his cell phones. He lost 27 of them, he said.
The wrongful death trial begins its 15th week in a Los Angeles courtroom Monday. The judge projected the trial will last until the middle of September.
 
Jacksons vs AEG - Day 62 - August 5 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

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I’ll try to get updates on Briggs out later this afternoon.
Going to try to grab a bite to eat, get back to the courtroom.
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Briggs was undergoing more questioning by AEG Live defense attorney Sabrina Strong. She wrapped up and passed the witness before lunch.
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The bodyguard’s testimony was finished within 50 minutes of taking the stand today, and then damages expert Eric Briggs returned.
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La Perruque said they were. The calls occurred over was a broad time period, from 2001 to 2004.
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... came during the same time period as the clips of him performing at the Democratic fundraiser, American Bandstand event.
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Chang’s questioning concluded, and Putnam only asked a few questions. He asked if Jackson’s late night calls (described last week) ...
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Chang: “Did he want to be remembered as the greatest entertainer in the world or the greatest father?”
A: “I would say the greatest father.”
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Jackson would only allow his children to buy one toy apiece when they went shopping, La Perruque said.
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La Perruque: “I think Michael was at his happiest when he was with his children.”
He added that Jackson didn't spoil his children.
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The bodyguard described the close and loving relationship Jackson had with his mother and his three children.
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The singer would also stop his car and give money to people on the streets, a practice he learned from his mother, La Perruque said.
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Instead of delivering the toys and causing a scene, La Perruque said Jackson had his bodyguards deliver them.
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La Perruque was asked about Jackson’s charity and he cited instances when the singer bought toys for a Florida women’s shelter.
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The bodyguard added that if he had seen Jackson as he appeared in the photo, he would have been alarmed.
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I couldn’t see La Perruque, but he seemed taken aback by the photo. He said that’s not how Jackson looked in May 2009.
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Chang showed La Perruque the June 19th photo of Michael Jackson in which he looks extremely thin. She asked if he looked like that in May.
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In fact, it was in May, during an anniversary party that Janet Jackson threw for her parents at restaurant in Beverly Hills.
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Chang also clarified when La Perruque last saw Jackson. He said last week it was two weeks before the singer’s death.
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La Perruque reiterated that he didn’t see any signs Jackson was struggling with prescription medications in ’07 or early ’08.
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The bodyguard said when he returned to work for Jackson in 2007-early ’08, the singer seemed to have a clear path of what he wanted to do.
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La Perruque said neither Michael nor Randy Jackson used the term intervention to describe the visit. Randy didn’t bring a doctor, he said.
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Chang asked about the incident in which Randy Jackson came to Neverland Ranch via helicopter and was turned away.
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La Perruque said if he saw any of those symptoms and thought they were life-threatening, he would have taken Jackson to the hospital.
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The bodyguard also said he never heard Jackson say he was talking to God or seem lost and annoyed, symptoms he displayed in 2009.
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La Perruque, in response to Chang’s questions, said he never saw MJ with “a terrible case of the chills” or have an “alarming weight loss.”
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The attorney asked whether La Perruque tried to protect Jackson.
“Yes,” he responded. “I did my best.”
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Chang asked whether La Perruque ever heard of Conrad Murray when he went back to work with Jackson in 2007 and early ’08. He said no.
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He said that Farschcian often accompanied Jackson on what seemed to be more social trips, rather than for medical reasons.
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La Perruque said he raised concerns with Farschcian that the doctor was over prescribing medications to Jackson.
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Farschcian is a Miami doctor who put an implant in Jackson to block the effects of Demerol and other opiates.
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La Perruque was asked whether any of the doctors seemed awestruck with Jackson. He said yes, and cited Dr. Alimorad Farschcian.
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Chang asked about the doctors La Perruque knew traveled and treated Jackson.
He told jury he never witnessed their treatments on Jackson.
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La Perruque reiterated that he never saw prescription bottles or alcohol in Jackson’s suite that day.
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Chang asked La Perruque if the paramedics mentioned Jackson had low blood pressure, but AEG objected and it was sustained.
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He said he never saw the paramedics’ report and wasn’t in the room where they checked out Jackson.
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La Perruque said he didn’t know what caused Jackson’s condition, and that paramedics did not transport him or indicate it was an overdose.
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Chang asked La Perruque about his experience with paramedics making medical evaluations of people, based on his experience as a deputy.
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Chang then asked about the Florida incident in which Jackson’s children found their father unconscious in a hotel suite hallway.
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She concluded the clips by showing Jackson’s cameo in “Men In Black: II” to show that the entertainer was busy in 2002.
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Chang then played another performance clip on the 50th Anniversary special for American Bandstand.
Dick Clark introduced Jackson.
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Chang had stopped the clip just as Jackson’s performance started. The judge allowed the clip to be played and didn't strike Clinton's intro.
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Jackson was introduced by Bill Clinton. AEG Live defense attorney Marvin Putnam objected to the clip, specifically the Clinton speech.
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Chang then showed a clip of Jackson performing at a 2002 Democratic National Committee fundraiser. He performed “Dangerous.”
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La Perruque was present during the shooting of some of the video, which starred Jackson, Chris Tucker and Marlon Brando.
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These years were the first time that La Perruque worked for Jackson. Chang showed him clip of “You Rock My World” music video.
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Chang started out her cross-examination by showing several clips of Jackson’s work during the 2001-2002 time period.
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La Perruque was able to complete his testimony and then defense damages expert Eric Briggs was called back to the stand.
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Testimony started with Michael La Perruque, Michael Jackson’s former head of security, back on the stand for cross-examination.
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Some updates on Jackson vs. AEG Live trial coming up. Katherine Jackson and Trent Jackson are here today.
 
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Chang asked if LaPerruque noticed there was a transition with Bain's position at the time he wasn't paid. He said he didn't know.
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The head security said he learned Bain became MJ's manager in 2006. She was the CEO/president of MJJ Productions. She signed his contract.
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Chang: Do you have any idea who was in charge of MJ's finances in 2007?
LaPerruque: Raymon Bain
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LaPerruque never observed any problems in 2007 with MJ being under the influence of prescription drugs.
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Rwamba contacted LaPerruque to go back to work for MJ. He said he wouldn't have jeopardize his job at the time if he thought MJ was on drugs
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MJ was acquitted of all child molestation charges and left the country after the verdict.
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Chang: Did you ever know there was an intervention?
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LaPerruque: No.
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Chang: Did you ever hear Randy Jackson speak about an intervention?
LaPerruque: No.
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Randy Jackson was by himself when he arrived at Neverland by helicopter. He did have a pilot, though, LaPerruque clarified.
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"I'd have been very concerned and if I thought it was life-threatening I'd have taken him to the hospital," LaPerruque said.
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Chang asked if LaPerruque saw those symptoms, what would he have done.
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Chang: Did you ever hear MJ saying that God was talking to him?
LaPerruque: No
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Chang: Have you ever seen MJ lost, paranoid?
LaPerruque: No
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Change: Have you ever heard people complain they could see his heart beating through his chest?
LaPerruque: No
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Chang: Have you ever seen an alarming weight loss?
LaPerruque: No
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Chang: Have you ever see him with terrible case of chills?
LaPerruque: No
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Chang: You tried to protect Mr. Jackson, right?
LaPerruque: Yes
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At one point, LaPerruque and Rwamba had a system to try to stop doctors to overprescribe drugs to MJ.
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LaPerruque raised his concerns with Dr. Farshchian, Dr. Slavitch in San Francisco and Grace Rwamba.
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Chang: Would it be fair to say that throughout the years you worked for MJ you never saw him overdose?
LaPerruque: Yes
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In 2007 - 2008 LaPerruque worked back with MJ. He had never heard about Dr. Murray.
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LaPerruque was never aware of the kind of treatment necessary to treat MJ's vitiligo and burned scalp.
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Chang: From 2001-2004 went through a lot of pain, stress and anxiety?
Objection, vague. Sustained.
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"There seemed to have been a social relationship between Dr. Farshchian and Michael Jackson," LaPerruque said.
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Chang: Did you ever raise concerns to Dr. Farshchian you thought he overprescribed medication?
LaPerruque: Yes
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"I never saw the doctors actually treating Mr. Jackson," LaPerruque said. He said he only took MJ to doctor's office and would wait outside.
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The head security never saw drugs in MJ's room.
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LaPerruque said it was hot and humid that day in Orlando and he does not know when was the last time MJ ate or drank anything.
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Chang asked if there was a mention of low blood sugar in the report. Defendant's attorney objected based on hearsay and judge sustained it.
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LaPerruque never saw the paramedics report. They did no take the MJ to the hospital.
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LaPerruque said paramedics are more prepared than him, as former sheriff's deputy, to assess a patient.
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Chang asked about MJ passing out in Florida and his children called 911. LaPerruque said he doesn't know what caused him to go unconscious.
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Chang: Did MJ have a good sense of humor, including about himself?
LaPerruque: Yes
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She also showed the 2003 American Bandstand 50th anniversary in Pasadena and MJ's cameo in "Man In Black 2" in 2002.
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Chang showed clip of President Clinton introducing MJ to the crowd.
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LaPerruque went to New York with MJ to be at the Apolo Theater with President Bill Clinton to encourage people to register to vote.
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LaPerruque was present when the song was recorded.

In 2002, LaPerruque said Blanket was born. MJ was very excited about being dad again.
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Change showed clip of "You Rock My World" with Marlon Brando and Chris Tucker and MJ. The single became part of "Invincible" album.
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MJ was recording "You Rock My World" single and shooting a short film at the Universal Studios when LaPerruque began working for the artist.
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LaPerruque said 2001-2004 were very difficult years for Michael Jackson. They were also very busy years.
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Katherine Jackson is present in court, wearing a long jacket in a green and pink water color print of tulips.
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Michael LaPerruque, Michael Jackson's former head of security, resumed testifying. Jackson's atty, Deborah Chang, did the cross examination.
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Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 62 of Jackson family versus AEG trial -- Week 15 -- is currently underway.
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Woolley’s deposition took about 45 minutes to play and jury was excused for the day when was done.
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His deposition was taken by plaintiff’s attorney Kevin Boyle and there was no cross-examination by AEG lawyers played for jurors.
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Woolley maintained throughout his testimony that Murray was Jackson’s personal doctor and he never had an agreement with AEG.
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He also said he never estimated how much getting CPR equipment in London would cost, and never discussed medical treatments with Murray.
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Woolley said he couldn't remember whether Murray ever provided the medical records to AEG.
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The medical records were needed for a second physical that insurers wanted on Jackson in order to get additional tour insurance.
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Woolley forwarded draft contracts prepared by attorney Kathy Jorrie to Murray and also tried to obtain the doctor's medical records.
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The men exchanged numerous emails in May and June 2009, with Murray trying to get AEG to pay his $150k a month fee.
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Woolley wrote Murray that the type of contract he needed to work on “This Is It” tour was rare and needed to be specially drafted.
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Woolley said he was self-employed but paid by AEG. He said he took orders from Gongaware but did not take orders from Jackson.
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Woolley said he didn’t have any specific reason to think Jackson needed a CPR machine, but suggested it as a precaution.
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Murray wasn’t forthcoming with what he needed to treat Jackson, so Woolley said he suggested he have two CPR machines for use in London.
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Woolley said he was instructed by AEG Live executive Paul Gongaware to deal with Murray. The men spoke in early May.
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According to Woolley, he called Murray to work out details of what he needed to work on the “This Is It” shows and details for a contract.
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Woolley was deposed in Florida in June 2012. He said he never read Murray’s draft contracts and denied he negotiated with the doctor.
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Woolley was a tour accountant who spoke to Murray about the terms of his contract and forwarded him draft contracts.
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The consultant concluded his testimony before the afternoon break.
AEG’s lawyers then played the video deposition of Timm Woolley.
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Briggs said just because there was demand for Jackson concerts, it didn't change the risk factors that MJ wouldn't be able to tour.
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Panish also showed Briggs an email from AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips from March 2009 that said the company had a 4-year plan for MJ concerts.
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He reiterated his opinion, based on reading testimony from medical experts, that Jackson’s drug use might keep the world tour from happening
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Briggs confirmed that Jorrie wrote that Jackson would be required to perform a worldwide tour.
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Panish asked about a line in an email by Kathy Jorrie, the attorney who drafted Conrad Murray’s agreement, that mentioned a worldwide tour.
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Briggs said he couldn’t say for sure how involved Jackson was in any compilation or album re-release projects.
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Panish also asked about the release of a No. 1 hits compilation, the “Thriller 25” release in 2008 and 100 songs MJ recorded between ’01-‘08
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They included some of the events that La Perruque testified about this morning, including the “Men In Black: II” cameo.
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After the break, Panish asked Briggs about several projects that MJ completed after the HIStory tour that the consultant hadn't considered.
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.... projection was speculative and he wasn’t there to speculate. The court broke for lunch soon after this.
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Panish then said that for $700k, his opinion was that Jackson wouldn't have earned any money for his children. Briggs said any ...
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When Panish took over, he asked Briggs if it was fair to say his fees for the case were over $700k. Briggs said that was fair to say.
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Erk’s projections more than doubled that figure, which Briggs said wasn't supported by Jackson’s touring history.
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The global attendance for two of Jackson’s previous tours, “Bad” and “Dangerous” was roughly 4.5 million concertgoers, Briggs said.
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Briggs: “Simply adding shows doesn’t mean the audience will keep showing up to fill the arena.”
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He told the jury you can't assume that just because a promoter added concerts, it would definitely sell out.
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Briggs: “Those are tours that never took place.Those are imaginary tours that are the result of a math problem.”
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The figures Panish had Briggs tally were very similar to what $1 billion+ figure that plaintiff’s expert Arthur Erk generated.
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Briggs said calculations that Panish walked him through last week weren't credible. He called them the results of a “math problem.”
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Briggs maintained that any projection of Jackson’s future earnings would be speculative and he didn't try to estimate a figure.
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AEG Live defense attorney Sabrina Strong questioned Briggs first today, questioning him about areas where his opinion had been attacked.
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After the lunch break, defense damages expert Eric Briggs finished his testimony. Both sides took turns asking him questions.
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Panish asked Briggs where that information came from. Briggs said he doesn't recall, can't give specifics.
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Briggs wrote in his note:
Paul McCartney -- $5 million Lexus
Rolling Stones -- $10 million Citibank
Others in the $1-2 million range
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Briggs said the deal was around $10 million, but he doesn't recall any cash transaction. Today the deal is said to be valued $100 million.
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Panish: It was more than $100 million, wasn't sir?
Briggs: Not at the time, he entered into a deal thought to be much less than that.
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Briggs said he's reluctant to disclose values, but knows 50 Cent received equity in the company.
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The expert did say he reviewed 50 Cent and Vitamin Water endorsement deal.
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Briggs said he doesn't remember reviewing specific contracts for endorsement, need moment to think.
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Panish: Tell us every endorsement deal you remember you reviewed as part of your experience.
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Panish asked if endorsement companies had a long-lasting memory about Tiger Wood. Briggs said athletes and very different from artists.
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Briggs said endorsement companies have a long memory about the people they want to associate themselves with.
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Briggs: His drug use was a factor and basis for my opinion.
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Panish: You told us MJ's drug use makes it speculative that he could do a worldwide tour and earn a dime?
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Email cont'd: he understands that we are entering into a tour agreement with him that will require him to perform a worldwide tour...
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Email cont'd: through a private investigator and/or at a minimum, that someone at AEG Live meet with Michael Jackson to make sure...
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Panish showed email Kathy Jorrie wrote:
Nonetheless, I recommend that a background check be performed...
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Panish: Is this evidence a world tour was contemplated by MJ and AEG Live?
Briggs: Yes, this is evidence a world tour was contemplated.
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"Territory is a define term in the contract," Briggs said. " Territory is defined as the world."
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O2 arena's capacity for MJ show is 15,000 average. "The contract contemplated a possibility for a world tour," Briggs opined.
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"Financing appeared to be in place for O2 concerts, yes," Briggs said. There was also a director and approximately $34 million investment.
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Briggs explained if they had a plan, that would be in support of the O2 tour, as well as detailed budget and financing.
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"Just to be clear, I'm giving an opinion to future earning, not about his albums," Briggs said.
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Panish: Do you know he recorded 100 new songs between 2001 and 2008 for new release?
Briggs: I did not know that.
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Briggs knew about some of the projects, not all. He said "Thriller 25" was extremely successful.
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He also performed in NY with Bill Clinton, participated in movies "Man in Black 2" and "Miss Castaway," Thriller 25 album re-released.
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Panish named several projects MJ worked, such as Luciano Pavarotti Benefit for the Children, "United We Stand" 911 benefit.
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Panish asked how many projects MJ did after the "Dangerous" tour. Briggs said it depended on how the work was classified.
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Therefore, he said he could not note anything about it in his notes. "I did not make reference of autopsy report," Briggs explained.
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Panish asked if Coroner's testified about life expectancy. "I understand the Coroner was not deposed," Briggs said.
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Panish: Did you write anything up about the Coroner's testimony?
Briggs: I did not.
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"One basis is the health of MJ," Briggs said. "As part of that basis, life expectancy is key."
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Panish showed Briggs' opinion. "This is the basis of my opinion that it's speculative that the UK shows would be completed," Briggs said.
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He said his best recollection is that it happened a few days prior to the firm's engagement with AEG's counsels.
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Briggs said he doesn't have any record of speaking with Salter about it.
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"There was no authorization sought, there was a notification to the Estate," Briggs said.
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Panish: Are you concerned about giving false testimony under oath?
Briggs: Of course I'm concerned of giving false testimony under oath!
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Briggs said the general counsel at FTI took care of the issue.
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Panish: And you are as sure of that as everything you testify to in this case, correct?
Briggs: Yes
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Briggs said his partner, Roy Salter, called Hoffman's company to notify Briggs was going to testify in this case.
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"I never called Ms. Cohen to get authorization to testify," Briggs said. "No one called for authorization, they called for notification."
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Panish: Is your testimony you called Ms. Cohen prior to signing the engagement letter with AEG's attorneys?
Briggs: That's not correct.
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"There was a call to notify the Estate not to receive authorization from the Estate," Briggs said.
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"I now understand the substance of the call was not an authorization but a call of notification," Briggs explained.
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Panish said Briggs testified he asked the Estate for permission to be hired by AEG and testify in this case.
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Panish: So that statement under oath was untruthful, sir?
Briggs: That's not correct, that was my best understanding at the time.
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He said his understanding is that his partner called the Estate lawyer, Jeryll Cohen, notifying he would testify in this case.
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The Estate has different lawyers, they are not represented by Panish's firm, Briggs said.
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Panish asked about Briggs' interaction w/ MJ Estate's lawyer.
"I told you there was not a written waiver with the Estate," Briggs explained.
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Panish: You don't determine what's relevant in this courtroom, right? "Concerning my opinion, I determine what is relevant," Briggs said.
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Briggs: Any projection of earning is speculative
Panish: In your opinion, it's speculative MJ'd earn any money working, correct?
Briggs: Yes
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Panish: And for 700k your opinion is that MJ would not have earned one dime from working to give to his children?
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Panish: Is it fair to say your bills is $700 thousand now?
Briggs: That's fair to say
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In re-cross, Panish asked if Briggs was put aside to accommodate another witness who had scheduling problems. He said yes.
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Panish: I didn't threat him, he's not afraid, he'd know if I threatened him.
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Judge: Mr. Panish, don't talk to any witness unless you're talking about this case.
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Judge laughed and said "I'd be surprised if anyone can run you over, Mr. Panish." Panish said he didn't touch or hit him.
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Panish said the events were not quite like that. He told the judge Briggs ran him over, said "this witness ran me over".
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Putnam said Panish told Briggs "you're lucky we're in court." "I can't have my witness threatened, you honor," Putnam said.
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Outside the presence of the jury, Putnam told Judge Yvette Palazuelos that Panish threatened Briggs during the break.
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"There's no reasonable basis for those projections based on the facts we know," Briggs concluded.
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"Erk specifically stated he did not take Michael Jackson's drug use into consideration to form his opinion," Briggs testified.
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Briggs said he was asked to analyze what we have today and the key factors we know now that we didn't know back then.
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Tom Barrack testified he did not know about Mr. Jackson's drug use, Briggs said.
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Briggs: It indicates there was a demand, it does not alleviate the health risk, it does not alleviate the cancellation risk.
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He said AEG was not able to secure any endorsement even after the high demand for tickets.
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But Briggs testified there was a difference between demand for seeing MJ and a company sponsoring the artist.
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"It means in London there were many people interested in seeing MJ do what he did best: perform," he explained.
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Briggs said there was significant demand that exceeded expectations for the London show.
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Also, there's a need to consider MJ's history of drugs use and canceling shows, and the broad risk in the business.
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He said there was no agreement beyond 50 shows at the time of MJ's death.
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"I don't see how an interest for a world tour makes it reasonably certain it will happen," Briggs said.
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Strong: Did they rely solely on Propofol use?
Briggs: There were testimony of the synergy of the drugs, the interaction of the drugs MJ used
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Briggs said Dr. Earley and Dr. Levounis also relied upon knowledge of history of his drugs use/manner which he took them for their opinion.
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Briggs: He spoke specifically to the synergy of the drugs MJ was taking and the impact of them on the artist.
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Strong: What other issues did Dr. Shimelman rely upon other than MJ's use of Propofol?
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Briggs: He clearly stated that Michael Jackson's life expectancy was 1 week as of June 2009.
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Briggs reviewed Dr. Shimelman's deposition in this case. The doctor was asked to give his best estimate of MJ's life expectancy in June 2009
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Briggs: If he didn't make any money there would be no profit for him to donate.
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Strong: If he didn't make money from those tours, would he donate money?
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Briggs said he relied on Gongaware's testimony that MJ's tours lost money or broke even, since the actual amount is normally confidential.
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Briggs said he saw some headlines regarding MJ donating proceeds from a tour to charity. He said he doesn't know if that ever happened.
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Gongaware planned 8 shows in Japan plus 1 private for a total of 9 shows, versus Mr. Erk's projection of 50 shows in Japan, Briggs said.
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Regarding shows in Japan and India, Gongaware was planning 4 shows in India. Briggs said Erk projected 60 shows in India.
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Briggs: There was no formal plan (for world tour), this is early proposal and Mr. Erk's projection was entirely speculative.
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Briggs said Erk projected roughly $900 million net for MJ.
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Email says "Net to Mikey $132 million," which Briggs explained indicates the amount AEG was expecting to have MJ net.
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Erk's projection was $1.56 billion, he compared.
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Regarding email saying "his gross would approached half a billion dollar," Briggs said he interprets it to be total ticket sales/merchandise
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"This is clearly in the early stages of a proposal," Briggs said.

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Briggs said there were number of words in the email that indicates to him it was a preliminary plan.
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Briggs said Gongaware email communication indicate there was a proposal to go on a worldwide tour on Sept. 26, 2008.
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Strong: Could MJ have audience of 13 million on his show?
Briggs: I don't know how you can be reasonably certain that would've happened.
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Briggs said Erk's projection is "significantly in excess of MJ's prior tours & significantly in excess of imaginary tours Panish calculated"
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Strong: Was that the peak of his career?
Briggs: I think so.
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Briggs: Historically, his shows sold 4.5 million tickets, appreciating he sold more albums at that point and was more active.
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Briggs said HIStory tour sold 4.5 million tickets for 82 shows, Bad also sold roughly 4.5 million tickets for 123 shows.
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Briggs said 55k people multiplied by 167 shows in AC/DC tour results in over 9 million tickets, doubled what was ever associated with MJ.
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Strong: Looking at this, did Mr. Panish compare apples to apples?
Briggs: I don't think so.
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Briggs said Panish used 3 different statistics and multiply them all. "It's just a math problem," he said.
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Briggs explained Panish's math: MJ's average public multiplied by number of shows by other artists multiplied by Erk's $108 tix price.
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Strong asked if the green bars are "imaginary tours" result of math problem. "Those are tours that never took place," Briggs said.
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Strong showed slide created by Panish. The blue bars is what has been publicly known to have occurred, Briggs said
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"What the economics of the project is is what I do everyday, evaluating risks and projecting income," Briggs explained.
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Briggs said Erk submitted specific projection of an entertainment project that MJ would've potentially be part of.
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Strong asked about Brian Panish inquiring Briggs' background in audits. "This case does not involve audit dispute," Briggs responded.
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Briggs said he analyzed Erk's projection and upon concluding it was speculative, it wasn't for him to speculate forecast in lots of pages.
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Briggs said the projection was done based on a solo artist, thus he didn't analyze MJ as part of Jacksons 5 group.
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He also analyzed the history of any artists selling out all the shows.
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Briggs said after his own deposition, he did additional research. He looked into the history of MJ's tour in the US and overseas.
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Briggs said the first time he saw Erk's projections was during Erk's deposition in March. He was deposed a couple of days later.
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He said he attended Erk's testimony, gave depositions, did extensive research to come to his conclusions and opinion.
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Briggs: I set out to evaluate the reasonable projections based on Mr. Erk's numbers.
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Strong asked if the amount he billed had anything to do with his opinions. Briggs said no.
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"During the course of my 15 year career, this is the normal course we bill clients," Briggs responded.
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Sabrina Strong did the questioning. She asked if Briggs recorded the time worked in this case as it's customary in the industry.
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LaPerruque is then excused. Eric Briggs returned to the stand to conclude his testimony from last week.
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Chang: If there was ever a time he could not get up on stage to perform, that would've been a concern for you?
LaPerruque: Yes
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Chang: Was MJ always able to perform and complete his functions?
LaPerruque: Yes.
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Chang: A family member come to the ranch on one occasion, right?
LaPerruque: Yes.
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LaPerruque made sure the room was set for MJ upon arrival. They first saw each other in the main room but talked in the private room.
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LaPerruque: In my course of employment with Mr. Jackson we'd have a room for him for down time also called green room.
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For the parents' 60th anniversary party, the restaurant was closed for Janet Jackson and the party members.
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The 2001-2004 period was the time MJ was trying to quit addiction to drug use, wanted his family away from Neverland, LaPerruque said.
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One of the things LaPerruque remembers the most about Michael Jackson is the fact that MJ was always kind and gentle with his children.
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"He wanted to be the best father ever," LaPerruque testified.
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LaPerruque: Not only that, he pushed them toward educational type of toys that they could've learned from.
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MJ's intention was for the kids to really want something and appreciate what they had, LaPerruque explained.
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MJ would restrict his children to one present and one present only when they went to a toy store, LaPerruque testified.
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He said MJ wanted them to really want something and appreciate what they had.
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LaPerruque: They wanted to be with their father, I think MJ was the happiest when we was with his children.
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LaPerruque described MJ's relationship with his children as excellent. "It was a very loving relationship," he said.
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Chang: Based on your observations and the things he told you, did he love his mother?
LaPerruque: Yes
C: Did she love him?
LP: Yes
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"We went and donated the toys," LaPerruque said.

LaPerruque said MJ learned with his mother to give money to the poor.
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He said MJ spent thousands of dollars there, and MJ decided to declined his appearance because he didn't want it to become a media circus.
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He said MJ wanted to give the toys to the children at the Women Shelter in Hollywood, Florida.
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LaPerruque told the jury there was a time where MJ asked him to go to Toys R Us to buy as many presents he could.
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Chang asked if LaPerruque knew MJ gave thousands of dollars to United Way. He said yes.
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The fact that MJ was one of the most famous artists in the world didn't change his way of being humble, LaPerruque said.
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Chang: If he had you'd have been alarmed?
LaPerruque: Yes

Chang: Was he a kind and gentle person?
LaPerruque: Yes
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Chang showed picture of MJ on June 2009.

Chang: He did not look anything like this, correct?
LaPerruque: Correct.
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The event took place at Chakra Indian restaurant in Beverly Hills. That was the last time LaPerruque saw MJ, a month prior to his death.
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LaPerruque said Janet Jackson hired him and other personnel to work at the May 14, 2009 event, which was her parents' anniversary.
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LaPerruque said he wasn't aware of MJ's worth and/or debt at that point. He received call from Bain said MJ would not be needing security.
 
Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 62 - August 5 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

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Attorneys and judge will discuss the video deposition of Joseph Marcus, the Neverland Ranch manager. Kathy Jorrie will testify next.
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That ended Wooley's deposition. Judge adjourned session until tomorrow morning. Attorneys are ordered at 9:30 am PT, jury at 9:45 am PT.
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Wooley said Dr. Murray asked for a "locum," a British medical term for a person who stands by in place of a physician.
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Wooley was not asked to run a background check on Dr. Murray and doesn't know if it was ever requested by anyone.
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Brigitte Segal was MJ's personal tour manager, Wooley said.
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Wooley testified he never saw any of the drafts of the contract between Dr. Murray and AEG, only forwarded them.
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Wooley expressed he never discussed with Dr. Murray what kind of treatment he would be giving MJ.
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Wooley said they would not have needed CPR units until they went to the UK. He did not quote any prices for the machine.
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Wooley testified Dr. Murray seemed to be the person to have the records, which was needed for underwriter of insurance.
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Wooley said he remembers Dr. Murray had MJ's medical record from 2006 to 2009. It was needed for purposes of securing insurance.
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"There wouldn't be any payment until a full agreement," Wooley said.
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In an email, Wooley apologized for the delay in getting the contract to Murray, said once contract is executed AEG could pay May/June salary
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Boyle showed Wooley a chain of emails between him and Kathy Jorrie. He said he did not recall the chain specifically.
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Wooley testified he forwarded to Dr. Murray the contract Kathy Jorrie sent him. He said he did not read it.
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Wooley wrote email that AEG policy dictates you can only pay someone w/ fully executed contract. He said he knows it based on his experience
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Wooley said Dr. Murray came from Vegas and MJ was living in Vegas for a period of time.
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"Did I not say it was Mr. Jackson's request and it was not my place to question that?" Wooley responded.
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Boyle wanted to know if Wooley asked why they were taking the doctor along.
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"Yes, as far as I know, I was telling the truth," Wooley said. "I was putting him off."
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Email on May 28 from Wooley to Murray said doctor's contract was delayed because it was rare event physician engaged to go on tour.
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The advisor said he was gathering the information with Dr. Murray to be put in a contract.
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Wooley said he does not remember if he asked Dr. Murray his bank account number.
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Wooley said he does not recall specifically receiving an email from Dr. Murray with his bank account info and request for $150k payment.
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Wooley testified he would've told Dr. Murray he would not get paid until the contract is completed.
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Wooley said he had no idea if AEG would pay Dr. Murray for May. He said he never read the contract.
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Boyle: Did AEG have an agreement?
Wooley: Never. There was never a completed agreement between Dr. Murray and AEG.
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"I didn't have any agreement with Dr. Murray," Wooley said.
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Email said his services are being done in good faith and asked, in reciprocity of good faith, to have payment for May deposited.
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Email from Dr. Murray:
Dear Timm,
I gather from your last email my contract is taking a little more time to get than usual...
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"I was attempting to be helpful," Wooley explained. He said he was not aware that Dr. Murray was treating MJ on behalf of AEG.
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Wooley doesn't remember the email and doesn't know what "my services are already fully engaged" meant.
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Email from Murray on May 15, 2009:
As for good faith w/ my client... I'm sure you're aware my services are already fully engaged with MJ.
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Boyle showed an email Wooley sent to Dr. Murray on May 14, 2009. It says he was following up with Dr. Murray.
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Wooley said they did not discuss need for nurse or doctor. "We didn't talk about his services," Wooley said.
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Wooley never discussed the need for IV lines and needles. He said the doctor told him he may needed an assistant.
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Boyle: Did you discuss Dr. Murray giving injection of Propofol to MJ?
Wooley: No
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"I was gathering information to compose projections and budget," Wooley testified.
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Boyle: Did you have any reason to believe MJ could have suffer a heart attack?
Wooley: None
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Boyle asked if Wooley lived in a retirement home. He said he's not retired.
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He said in his community there was installation of CPR units in some houses and he thought of asking.
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"I enumerated that item as an item he might wanted to have," Wooley said about the CPR, or defibrillation, units.
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Boyle: Did you take any orders from MJ?
Wooley: No
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Wooley said he suggested Dr. Murray to get CPR units. He said he was working for the tour, called the doctor on behalf of Michael Jackson.
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One email says: "Need for one venue-based, one home-based extracorporeal CPR units."
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Wooley remembers calling Murray once in early May to check if he needed anything that he would get the info to the appropriate people.
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Boyle: Did you ask why MJ wanted a personal physician on tour?
Wooley: Not mine to ask.
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Wooley said Gongaware told him MJ wanted to hire Conrad Murray, whom he said he later found out was MJ's primary physician.
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He said he gathered information on behalf of MJ, his doctor that the artist wanted to contract, Wooley explained.
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Wooley said he did not do the negotiations with Dr. Murray. He said negotiations is a broad term, may have done some work.
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"(I) Deputed for him in matters financial, when delegated to me," Wooley explained.
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Wooley got an email in early 2009. He said Gongaware wanted him as his deputy to work on projections, payables, payroll, petty cash.
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Wooley said Prince had done some shows in O2, he acted as financial consultant. Gongaware contacted Wooley to work in the "This It It" tour.
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"I think I wanted to get Mr. Murray off my back," Wooley said regarding emails he wrote to Murray. He said the intention was to put him off.
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"It was his choice, whether it was usual or not usual was not my place to decide," Wooley responded.
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Kevin Boyle, Jacksons' attorney, did the questioning. Boyle asked if he thought it was weird MJ wanted a doctor on tour.
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AEG's attorneys played video deposition of Timm Wooley, a financial advisor who worked on "This Is It." He's been an advisor for 20 years.
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Briggs: That's correct.

Briggs is excused and judge gave a break in the afternoon session.
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Panish, in re-re-re-cross: You're sure as anything else you testified that your company contacted the Estate before signing the agreement?
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"The Estate has not objected to my involvement in this case," Briggs said.
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Briggs said the general counsel of his firm cleared that there was no conflict of interest for him to testify in this case.
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He said he took that in consideration, but it didn't alleviate some of the concerns he had.
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Strong, in re-re-re-direct: Did you ever dispute a world tour was contemplated?
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Panish discussed with Briggs, extensively, the chart and how Erk arrived at those numbers.
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Panish addressed the judge: Your honor, I ask that Mr. Putnam stop making comments.
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Regarding the 4 year plan that included Australia tour, Briggs said: "I do not see how demand addresses a one week life expectancy."
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Back from twitter jail... ugh!
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Panish asked Briggs where that information came from. Briggs said he doesn't recall, can't give specifics.
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Briggs wrote in his note:
Paul McCartney -- $5 million Lexus
Rolling Stones -- $10 million Citibank
Others in the $1-2 million range
 
Jacksons vs AEG - Day 63 - August 6 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

Jacksons vs AEG - Day 63 - August 6 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

Use this thread to post any and all news stories from day 63 of Katherine Jackson vs. AEG trial.

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Please help the staff by posting all the news stories as well as tweets from media you see.

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Jury was told to report back tomorrow morning at 9:30 a.m. PDT.
My story here: http://bit.ly/157hrxv
Additional updates coming later...
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Panish only had a bit of time and didn't cover Jorrie's testimony about Murray's contract, so that should happen tomorrow.
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Stebbins Bina did finish her direct examination of Jorrie and Brian Panish started cross-examination.
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Need to jump offline for a bit, will try to sign on later for additional updates from today's session.
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Attorney testifies she told AEG Live CEO that Jackson's doctor appeared to be successful days before singer's death: http://bit.ly/157hrxv
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Nothing so far persuaded Palazuelos to release the email to plaintiffs. She said she would keep a sealed copy in the court file.
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Judge Yvette Palazuelos however said that if something in Jorrie's testimony changed her mind, plaintiffs could review unredacted version.
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The judge did review the heavily redacted email after during the lunch break and determined its contents couldn't be shown to plaintiffs.
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The judge said it didn’t open up every communication between Jorrie and Murray (or even Phillips and Trell) to scrutiny by the plaintiffs.
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The judge’s ruling was that Jorrie could testify about conversations with Murray that related to changes in his contract’s terms.
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Stebbins Bina said if Murray had failed the “smell test” in talks with Jorrie, it would be reasonable if she stopped negotiating with him.
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... argue to the jury that AEG ignored warning signs about Conrad Murray. She checked his medical licenses in 4 states (CA, NV, TX, HI)
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Stebbins Bina argued that Jorrie should be allowed to testify about certain conversations because the Jacksons’ lawyers are trying to (cont)
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The judge wanted to avoid Jorrie from providing a legal opinion about whether AEG Live hired Murray, which is for the jury to decide.
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Panish argued a lot of Jorrie’s testimony about her discussions with Conrad Murray, Trell and AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips were hearsay.
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... between Jorrie and AEG Live’s general counsel Shawn Trell.
She also told AEG attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina to tread carefully.
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The judge didn’t totally agree with the plaintiff’s attorneys, but she did want to review a heavily redacted email ... (cont)
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Attorneys Brian Panish, Kevin Boyle and William Bloss argued that if Jorrie testified, AEG was waiving attorney-client privilege
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Katherine Jackson’s attorneys objected to Jorrie’s testimony, saying she was being offered as an expert witness.
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Jorrie drafted Conrad Murray’s agreement to work on the “This Is It” tour.
There were concerns about atty-client privilege, hearsay issues.
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The arguments about what Jorrie would be able to testify about today lasted for more than an hour.
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I'll have a story out shortly on her testimony. Coming up are some updates from arguments this morning before she took the stand.
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Jorrie is an independent attorney who does a lot of work for AEG Live. She's handled almost 300 matters for the company since its creation.
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Some updates in the Jackson vs AEG Live trial coming up. There were lots of arguments today today about testimony of Kathy Jorrie.
 
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Lawyer details interactions with Jackson's doctor
By ANTHONY McCARTNEY, AP Entertainment Writer
Updated 8:39 pm, Tuesday, August 6, 2013
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FILE - In this March 5, 2009 file photo, US singer Michael Jackson announces that he is set to play ten live concerts at the London O2 Arena in July, which he announced at a press conference at the London O2 Arena. The attorney who drafted the agreement for Jackson’s doctor to work on the singer’s “This Is It” shows told a Los Angeles jury on Tuesday, Aug. 6, 2013, that the physician told her his clinics earned more than $1 million a month and she told the CEO of the concert promoter AEG Live LLC that he appeared to be successful. Kathy Jorrie’s testimony came in a negligence lawsuit filed by Jackson’s mother against AEG Live, claiming the company failed to adequately investigate Dr. Conrad Murray, who was convicted of giving the singer a fatal dose of anesthesia in June 2009. Photo: Joel Ryan
FILE - In this March 5, 2009 file photo, US singer Michael Jackson announces that he is set to play ten live concerts at the London O2 Arena in July, which he announced at a press conference at the London O2 Arena. The attorney who drafted the agreement for Jackson’s doctor to work on the singer’s “This Is It” shows told a Los Angeles jury on Tuesday, Aug. 6, 2013, that the physician told her his clinics earned more than $1 million a month and she told the CEO of the concert promoter AEG Live LLC that he appeared to be successful. Kathy Jorrie’s testimony came in a negligence lawsuit filed by Jackson’s mother against AEG Live, claiming the company failed to adequately investigate Dr. Conrad Murray, who was convicted of giving the singer a fatal dose of anesthesia in June 2009. Photo: Joel Ryan



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LOS ANGELES (AP) — An attorney who drafted the agreement for Michael Jackson's doctor to work on his ill-fated comeback concerts testified Tuesday that she told a tour promotion executive that the physician appeared to be successful just days before the entertainer's death.

Kathy Jorrie, an independent attorney who has handled nearly 300 matters for AEG Live LLC, said she told the company's CEO that the physician was properly licensed during a conversation six days before Jackson died in June 2009. Jorrie said she also told the executive that former cardiologist Conrad Murray told her his medical clinics were earning more than $1 million a month.

Jorrie's comments to AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips came the same day that Jackson showed up to rehearsals shivering and unable to practice, according to testimony in a negligent hiring case filed by Jackson's mother. Within hours of speaking with Jorrie, Phillips was fielding emails from tour workers describing Jackson's condition as deteriorating and expressing concerns about the singer's health.

In one of Phillips' emails to tour director Kenny Ortega the following day, the executive called Murray "extremely successful" and wrote that AEG Live had checked him out.

Jackson's mother is suing AEG Live, claiming the company did not properly investigate Murray. AEG denies any wrongdoing.

No background check was conducted on the former cardiologist, who was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in 2011 for administering a fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol to Jackson on June 25, 2009.

Jorrie testified Tuesday that she reviewed records that showed Murray's Nevada clinic had a valid license, the physician was licensed to practice medicine in four states and she searched his name on Google.

The attorney told jurors that she spoke to Murray about an agreement she drafted that would have paid him $150,000 a month to accompany Jackson to London for 50 concerts. She said she questioned the doctor about a request in the contract for CPR machines, but she was satisfied with his response that the singer's shows were strenuous and he needed lifesaving equipment nearby if there was an emergency.

Jorrie also told jurors she mistakenly left language in a contract that Murray signed that called for him to perform services "reasonably requested" by AEG Live.

She maintained throughout her testimony that Murray was Jackson's personal doctor and the language about him performing services for the promoter shouldn't have been in the agreement. Jackson's approval was required on the contract, but he died before signing it.

Katherine Jackson's attorneys claim AEG created a conflict of interest for Murray, who was deeply in debt before Jackson's death.

AEG Live's lawyers have told jurors that Jackson made the decision to hire Murray and requested the propofol treatments to help him sleep.
 
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Upcoming Witnesses:
Kathy Jorrie -- tomorrow
Kenny Ortega
Debbie Rowe

Judge said Ortega all day Thursday & Friday. Rowe next week.
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"I spoke with him about the tour agreement and how it would work," Jorrie testified.
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"I said that he told me that his 4 medical practices brought in more than a million dollars a year," Jorrie said.
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Panish: Did you tell the police department Dr. Murray took in $12 million a year?
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Jorrie said she did not bill for the time she testified at deposition.
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"He would've been mistaken, Mr. Panish," Jorrie said. "Because he misunderstood what I was saying about the tour.".
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Panish asked if Detective Schmidt is called to testified and said Jorrie told him about MJ going on a worldwide tour, if that's a lie.
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Panish: You denied making that statement?
Jorrie: Yes. Not like that.
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Panish: Did Mr. Putnam tell LAPD MJ was going to do a world tour for 3 to 5 years?
Jorrie: No.
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Panish: Did you tell LAPD that MJ was going on a worldwide tour after European leg was over?
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"That's not my statement and I don't recall that," Jorrie testified.
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Panish: Did you say European tour was just the beginning and MJ would be making a worldwide tout?
Jorrie: Not that I recall.
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Panish: Did you tell LAPD the that MJ was going on a world tour?
Jorrie: No.
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Panish: Did you go meet with LAPD and discussed MJ going to go on a worldwide tour?
Jorrie: No, they came to my office, asked questions.
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Putnam was present when Jorrie spoke with LAPD after Michael Jackson's death.
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Panish: You knew MJ was going on a 3-5 years worldwide tour, correct?
Jorrie: That's not correct.
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Panish: How many multi-million dollars has your company been paid?
Jorrie: It could be over $5 million for that period of time (since 2000).
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Jorrie: For all of those matters, for 12 years, it would be millions of dollars.
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Judge: Was the case dismissed?
Panish: Yes
Judge: Then it's not stealing. Please refrain from using that word. Describe it accurately.
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Bina objected, saying the lawsuit was dismissed and Panish was trying to tarnish Gongaware and Meglen's reputation.
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Panish said Paul Gongaware and John Meglen were sued for stealing the name Concerts West.
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Jorrie said she can have her accounting department put together a spreadsheet with all she has billed AEG.
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Jorrie: Of all matters related to This Is It?
Panish: Yes. More than 20 million?
J: Of course not
P: 10 million?
J: No
P: 5 million?
J: No
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Jorrie asked if it included litigation. Panish said yes.
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Panish: How much have you billed AEG related to the "This Is It" project?
Jolie: Work started in October 2008.
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Jorrie charges AEG $595 per hour. She said she's not billing AEG for the testimony today.
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Jorrie said she has it in her office. Panish asked to see it, she said she can provide it, redacting the name of the third party.
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Panish asked if Jorrie brought the contract she used as basis for drafting Dr. Murray's contract.
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Panish: Have you ever paid an expert $700,000?
Jorrie: I have not.
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Panish asked if Jorrie hires expert witnesses. She said yes. He inquired if professionals keep itemization. She said yes.
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Panish: Professionals keep itemization of the work they do, don't they?
Jorrie said she keeps tabs of the work she does.
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"I'm aware that Mr. Gongaware was sued one time, but I want to be absolutely certain," Jorrie said.
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"I'd like to think all my clients are my friends, Mr. Panish," Jorrie explained. "They are business friends."
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Panish inquired if Jorrie is friends with Randy Phillips and Paul Gongaware.
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Panish asked if her company has received millions and millions of dollar from AEG. She said since 2000, yes.
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Panish: Are you being paid for the work you've done in this case?
Jorrie: I'm not being paid as I sit here today.
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In cross examination, Panish asked if Jorrie is an independent witness.
Jorrie: I don't understand the question, Mr. Panish.
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Jorrie emailed Dr. Murray one more time after that related to the insurance for the tour.
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June 23rd - Murray called asking additional changes
June 23rd - third draft sent to Murray
June 24th - Murray signed it and faxed it back
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June 19th -- checked medical license, business standing
June 19th -- spoke with Phillips about it
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Recap:
June 15th -- first draft written, sent to Dr. Murray
June 18th -- negotiation with Dr. Murray began, over the phone
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"Because we're talking about Michael Jackson's physician," Jorrie explained.
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Regarding the reference that AEG hired doctor at request of MJ, Jorrie said she never did this on any other agreement on behalf of AEG.
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"I do not know if Michael Jackson would've signed the agreement," Jorrie testified.
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Jorrie said she put that date since she thought the parties would've signed the contract that day.
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Bina showed the last page of Dr. Murray's agreement. Under the signatures, it is dated June 24, 2009.
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Jorrie said July 3, 2009 was the date Dr. Murray was planning to go to London with Michael Jackson.
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Jorrie testified she discussed with Dr. Murray the requirement for UK medical license either on June 18 or 23.
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Jorrie explained paragraph 4 of the contract, which detailed the responsibilities of GCA/Dr. Murray.
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Bina: Did Dr. Murray ever ask you for payment?
Jorrie: Never.
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Jorrie said she didn't talk to Murray about specific treatment he was giving to MJ. "He didn't tell me anything he was doing to treat MJ."
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Jorrie sent Dr. Murray the last version on June 23rd, Dr. Murray faxed it back on June 24th.
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Jorrie said this is the first third-party vendor agreement she was involved with a medical doctor.
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"Sometimes we enter in agreements the artists never see," Jorrie told the court.
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Judge: How do you know if you don't talk t the artist that the agreement is what the artist's want?
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Jorrie: The reasons is that attorneys for the artist would have the document exactly like they wanted.
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The attorney said she has negotiated with third party vendors before without showing the drafts to the artist.
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Jorrie said neither Michael Jackson nor AEG signed the contract.
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Jorrie: Late in the evening on June 24, I received a fax with a document signed by Dr. Murray. I forwarded a copy to it to Mr. Trell.
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Jorrie explained it was never her understanding that MJ's medical records would have been sent to her but to insurance underwriter.
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Jorrie said she sent 3rd version of the draft to AEG Live. She didn't send it to MJ or his reps, was not in communication with MJ about it.
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Jorrie revised the agreement, emailed to Dr. Murray on 6/23/09: saying 'I have attached a clean pdf version, which is ready for execution.'
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Bina asked if on June 23 Jorrie discussed with Dr. Murray to get MJ's medical history. She said yes.
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Jorrie said if she had seen it, she would've changed it to Artist, not Producer.
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Jorrie: I didn't change it to Artist because Murray didn't draw my attention to that and I didn't remember that language was in there twice.
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Jorrie said provision 4.1 also says "Perform the Services reasonably requested by Producer."
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Jorrie: Murray said we need to change that to Artist, it's the artist who's my patient. I said absolutely right, the artist if your patient.
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1- Scope of Services -- it had language saying perform services reasonably requested by "Producer."
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Jorrie asked if MJ would be paying him even though the tour would be on break. He said yes.

End date changed from Sept, 2009 to March, 2010
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Jorrie: He wanted to extend, by about 5 months, his engagement.
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Judge: I'm going to strike the entire testimony if she keeps interpreting the contract.
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When Bina asked about payment provision, Panish objected to prevent Jorrie from expressing her opinion about the contract.
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Jorrie: He said he was promised that when the agreement was signed he would've been paid retroactively to May 1, 2009.
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First change was the effective date, from June to May 1, 2009, Jorrie said.
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Jorrie: AEG Live has been a consistent client of mine since 2000. Approximately 300 matters have been opened in 12 years.
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"I definitely told him he's very successful in his practice," Jorrie said. "I confirmed he was licensed to practice in 4 states."
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Jorrie testified she told Phillips Murray appeared to be very successful in his practice, may have told him about a million dollar a month.
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It was phone conversation, she relayed Dr. Murray was licensed to practice in 4 states. "I checked out, or confirmed the info," she said.
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Jorrie spoke with Randy Phillips on June 19, 2009 on an unrelated matter and Dr. Murray's subject came up.
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Jorrie said Dr. Murray called her again on June 23, 2009 asking for some more changes.
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Change in 7.7: If there's termination, GCA shall have no obligation to refund any portion of any installation due and payable before.
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Jorrie changed Provision 3.4 at the request of Dr. Murray, from nurse to qualified medical person (assistant).
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GCA would actually provide the services of Dr. Murray, Jorrie said. The $150k would be paid not to Dr. Murray, but to GCA Holdings.
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The attorney said Dr. Murray told her he would help. Jorrie explained she had 3 drafts of Dr. Murray's agreement.
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Jorrie asked that if Dr. Murray was not the right doctor to provide records, if he could please direct her to the appropriate physician.
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Bina: Did you send this email because you believe Dr. Murray was MJ's physician?
Jorrie: Yes.
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"Dr. Murray said he had told me he had been MJ's physician for a period of time," Jorrie expressed.
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Jorrie said she was asked by the general counsel to see if she could ask Dr. Murray for the medical history for insurance purpose.
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The attorney told the jury once the contract is fully executed, she saves it "fully executed."
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Jorrie explained it's her practice to save doc as "final pdf version." She said it is a personal indicator that the final version was sent.
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Jorrie said she also attached a comparison doc with the redlines marking the changes she made for easier understanding.
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She then sent email to Wooley asking him to forward the contract to Murray.
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Jorrie testified she did the medical license check on June 18, 2009. She said she sent the draft to Dr. Murray, but the email bounced back.
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"There was no disciplinary action against Dr. Murray," Jorrie said. She checked in California, Nevada, Texas and Hawaii.
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Jorrie said it was very easy to check the medical licenses. She went on the Medical Board websites and checked his licenses in all.
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Jorrie testified GCA was a proper company and Dr. Murray was the manager of it. She added the address on the contract and Dr. Murray's title
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Jorrie said she checked the medical boards Dr. Murray told her he was licenses and googled the doctor.
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The attorney said she went to the Nevada Secretary of State to check if GCA Holdings, LLC was indeed a valid company.
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Jorrie said she took the information she got from Dr. Murray, went online and checked it out.
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Jorrie: Our conversation concerned London, he said he needed one (CPR machine) in London.
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Contract said "producer to provide medical equipment portable CPR, saline, catheter, needles, gurney and other mutually approved equipment."
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Jorrie recalled there was other equipments on the list, normally for dehydration purposes, like saline and catheter.
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"Giving Michael's age, giving his age, and that he puts on a strenuous performance, he just didn't want to take a chance," Jorrie said.
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Jorrie asked if O2 arena didn't have one. He said he didn't want to take risks, wanted one at hand. He also told her it's customary.
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Jorrie: I asked Dr. Murray, why do you need a CPR machine? He said he needed one in London, MJ puts on a strenuous performance.
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Jorrie said she asked Murray about the CPR machine. The doctor provided a list of equipment he needed to Wooley, who in turn sent to Jorrie.
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"He thought it would be fair and appropriate due to him leaving his established medical practice," Jorrie explained.
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Jorrie: He had asked to be able to retain the full payment for the month he received.
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Jorrie explained that provision 7.7 detailed what happened if there was a termination. Dr. Murray asked her to limit that provision.
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Jorrie: Murray said under no circumstances he was leaving his practice if when terminated he couldn't keep the whole 150,000 received.
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Jorrie said Dr. Murray told her he had 4 medical practices making a million dollar a month, and it was not fair to have to return money.
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Jorrie: My response: Dr. Murray, $150,000/month is a lot of money!
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Payment was due to him on the 15th of the month to cover from 1st-30th. If he were terminated on the 20th, he wanted to keep full payment.
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As a result, he would not want to be in a position he would have to refund any part of his payment.
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Dr. Murray wanted to modify section 7.7, termination either because MJ decided he didn't want him anymore or the concert canceled.
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The first payment was to be no later than 5 days after contracted was fully signed by everybody, including Michael Jackson.
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The attorney said Dr. Murray told her he was licensed to practice medicine in California, Nevada, Texas and Hawaii.
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Jorrie said ultimately she made the changes. Dr. Murray was the one who would identify who this medical person would be, but never did.
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Jorrie said Dr. Murray wanted to have the flexibility to have someone on stand by, payable for by AEG Live.
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Jorrie: I asked why you needed another physician as opposed to a nurse. He told me in case he was unavailable or tired.
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Jorrie said that it was okay but she wanted Dr. Murray on the contract also.
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Jorrie: Dr. Murray told me he preferred to have GCA Holding as contracting party and he as employee of the company.
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Jorrie: He also let me know he was license to practice medicine in 4 states and gave me the states.
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Another change requested was to provision 7.7 regarding termination, Jorrie said.
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Jorrie explained Dr. Murray said he wanted flexibility to have a "qualified assistant medical person," who could be another physician.
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Dr. Murray also wanted to change provision where Jorrie referred to nurse.
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Jorrie: The changes he mentioned to me during the call, he wanted his company GCA Holdings to be the contracting party instead of him.
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The attorney said the conversation about Dr. Murray and MJ relationship did not result in any change to the contract.
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Jorrie said Murray called her on 6/18/09:
1- Murray and MJ relationship
2- Some of changes he wanted made
3- Couple of questions Jorrie had
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Jorrie said she believes she sent the email to Wooley/Dr. Murray on June 15. She testified she never received any documents from Dr. Murray.
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Termination:
6- no later than July 3rd, evidence he was allowed to practice medicine in the UK
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Termination:
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Termination:
3- if artist decided he no longer wanted or needed Murray
4- failed to maintain all licenses and approval to practice medicine
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Termination:
1- in event there was a default of the agreement by the doctor
2- in the event series of concerts postponed or canceled
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Jorrie explained the Termination provision that allowed AEG to terminate the contract with Dr. Murray.
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Jorrie said Recital A, Paragraph 9 and wording above MJ's signature explained Dr. Murray was hired on behalf of Michael Jackson.
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Jorrie said this provision was included in the 1st draft. She said Murray had no comment regarding the first 2 provisions of the contract.
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She said she added a line for MJ's signature at the end of the document.
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Jorrie said she included in the contract "Artist Consent," saying the contract was not enforceable unless and until MJ signed the agreement.
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The attorney said Wooley told her that Michael Jackson had asked Dr. Murray to go on tour with him and that MJ would pay for it.
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Jorrie added "services to be provided by Dr. Murray administer those services professionally and greatest degree of care expected."
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At Wooley's request, she included that Dr. Murray was MJ's personal physician and had been for some time.
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Jorrie said the "Scope of Services" was a mix between what Wooley requested and her additions.
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Jorrie explained she worked off the base contract and included a bunch of other provisions to the agreement.
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Jorrie said there were 2 more drafts after the first. She said she looked at other AEG agreement contracts she had prepared AEG as template.
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Jorrie said she sent the draft to Wooley and if he was happy with it to forward it to Dr. Murray.
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Jorrie said she included other important terms:
- End date to be end of O2 arena in Sept. 2009
- Termination provision
- Indemnity
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Jorrie said he did not say what ended point would be. She put all the terms in the first draft agreement, but most details were missing.
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Wooley said Dr. Murray wanted personal insurance in case he got sick. The payment to commence as of May 1, 2009.
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Also, the doctor and family would be provided housing in London.
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Jorrie said nurse would be provided as selected by Dr. Murray and paid for by AEG Live. The doctor would have the air fare to/from London.
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In addition to providing medical care, Dr. Murray would be on call for emergencies, Jorrie explained.
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Jorrie: He told me that MJ had agreed to pay $150,000 per month for Dr. Murray, that Dr. Murray was MJ's personal physician.
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The attorney never talked to Murray before drawing the first draft. Initial draft was based on basic terms Wooley provided her, Jorrie said.
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Jorrie said, to her best recollection, she received a call from Timm Wooley to help prepare an agreement for Dr. Murra in late May of 2009.
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"I drafted the version that was sent to Mr. Wooley, who provided my draft agreement to Dr. Murray," Jorrie explained.
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Jorrie also did the contract for Dr. Conrad Murray that Michael Jackson requested.
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Jorrie worked on third party agreements for "This Is It" tour. She worked on deal with Bravado for merchandising, negotiated stage.
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Over the years, Jorrie said Trell asked her to help negotiate agreements with vendors. She said she normally works on big agreements.
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The attorney said she worked on more than 75 tour agreements with prominent artists, Rolling Stones, Bon Jovi, Britney Spears, Kanye West.
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Jorrie said she works with AEG Live and AEG in their live entertainment business. She deals with Shawn Trell (who testified earlier on.)
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She also works with movie distributors, satellite providers, live entertainment promoters, etc.
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The focus of her clients has been the entertainment business. Her clients involve motion pictures studios, television content producers.
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Jorrie said she splits her work between being a trial litigator and transactional work, one who deals with contracts.
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Jorrie is a partner at a law firm, works in Los Angeles. Her firm is an international company with close to 80 attorneys in the LA office.
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Jorrie said she's in the business for 20 years. She did undergraduate at UCLA and got JD degree at Hastings College of Law.
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Attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina did direct examination.
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Jury entered the courtroom at 11:09 am PT. AEG called Kathleen Ann Jorrie, an attorney who works at a private firm and does work for AEG.
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Jorrie is a lawyer who works for AEG and put together Murray's contract. Both sides argued extensively regarding attorney-client privilege.
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Judge Yvette Palazuelos and attorneys spent more than 1 hour and 15 mins this morning discussing boundaries for next witness, Kathy Jorrie.
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Katherine Jackson is present in court, wearing a purple jacket with black flowers on it.
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Hello from the courthouse in downtwon LA. Day 63 of Jackson family vs AEG trial, Week 15, underway.
 
Michael Jackson trial: Lawyer talks Conrad Murray agreement
Tuesday, August 06, 2013

Miriam Hernandez

LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- The Michael Jackson wrongful death trial on Tuesday focused on the agreement with the pop star's doctor, Conrad Murray. That contract could be a key element in the case.

If Jackson's death was caused by his doctor, then whoever hired the doctor for the star's comeback tour should be liable for his death, according to Katherine Jackson's lawsuit.

Now under scrutiny before the jury is Murray's independent contractor agreement, which was drawn up by AEG Live but never signed. The AEG defense says the document holds evidence that Jackson requested Murray to be his personal physician and dictated his salary.

Attorney Kathy Jorrie, who wrote the agreement, walked the jury through the many changes made to the document. Her appearance set off objections from the Jackson attorneys.

"She never spoke to Michael Jackson, she doesn't know. But we know that, at least based on the evidence, AEG did hire Dr. Murray. And the contract she negotiated was never sent to any representatives of Michael Jackson," said Jackson attorney Brian Panish.

The defense says Jorrie spoke directly to Murray about the terms the doctor and Jackson wanted.

"Michael Jackson wanted to bring his long-time physician with him. That it was at his solo and absolute direction, that this would only occur with his, um, normally saying he wanted it done, but he actually had to sign and say so, and had to sign and say that he would be the one paying for it," said AEG lawyer Marvin Putnam.

Jorrie says that she questioned Murray's salary of $150,000 a month. Murray's response, she testified, was that his practices in four states brought him $1 million a month.

Jorrie says she did an Internet search and found Murray's practices listed. She said the medical boards in the four states showed no record of disciplinary action against him.

Jurors learned through earlier testimony that Murray was broke. About Murray's contract not being signed, the Jackson attorneys say it doesn't matter.

"You don't really need a contract to hire someone. As we've seen in this case, many people have worked for AEG that didn't have a contract," said Panish.

But AEG's interpretation of the law is that the unsigned agreement nullifies everything.

"As long as you have that agreement that you're not going to have an agreement unless signed by the parties, then you can't override that," said Putnam.

Jorrie is back on the stand Wednesday to face cross examination by the Jackson attorneys.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/entertainment&id=9197963

Michael Jackson-AEG trail witness: Murray asked for back-up physician
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Dr. Conrad Murray during his involuntary manslaughter trial. (Irfan Khan / Los Angeles Times / January 25, 2011)
By Kate Mather
August 6, 2013, 4:41 p.m.
The attorney hired by AEG to draft Conrad Murray’s contract for Michael Jackson’s ill-fated “This Is It” tour testified Thursday that the the doctor had requested a CPR machine and a back-up physician.

Kathy Jorrie, an outside attorney who has long worked for AEG, said when she began the negotiations in June 2009, tour accountant Timm Woolley told her Murray was the singer’s personal physician and would provide general medical services during the 50-show London tour.

During questioning by AEG attorney Jessica Stebbins-Bina, Jorrie said she spoke to Murray twice on the phone during the negotiation process, which produced three drafts of the contract the doctor ultimately signed.

The central question in the wrongful death case filed by Jackson's mother and three children is who hired Murray. Katherine Jackson and her grandchildren allege AEG negligently hired and controlled the doctor, who gave the singer a fatal dose of propofol two weeks before his comeback tour was set to open.

AEG alleges it was Jackson who hired Murray, and any money that was supposed to be paid to the doctor was actually part of an advance to the singer.

Murray is now serving jail time after being convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's death.

Jorrie said she first spoke to Murray on the phone on June 18, after he reviewed an initial draft of the contract. He asked that his company's name be added to the contract and that a provision allowing him to hire a nurse as an assistant be changed to a "qualified assistant medical person."

"I had asked him, 'Why would you need another physician as opposed to a nurse?'" Jorrie testified. "And he told me that in an event that he was not available or he was tired, he wanted the flexibility" to have a back-up.

Murray asked that he be responsible for hiring the additional doctor, but did not provide a name, Jorrie said. The attorney testified that she ultimately agreed to the change.

Murray also requested that should his contract be terminated early, he would not be required to refund his $150,000-per-month payment. Jorrie said Murray told her that his medical practices brought in "a million dollars a month" and because he was leaving those practices for the tour, "it'd be fair and appropriate" that he keep the full payment he had received.

Jorrie said she also spoke to Murray about his request for medical equipment. Woolley had provided her a list of items the doctor might ask for, she testified, and she wanted to know why a "CPR machine" was on the list.

"He said he needed it in London during the performance, Michael Jackson puts on a strenuous performance and that he did not want to take a chance," she said. "That should anything go wrong, should there be an emergency, etc., he wanted to have that."

When she asked if having a machine available at the O2 Arena would suffice, she said Murray said no.

"He said they would" have the machine, she said, "but that he didn't want to take a chance."

After speaking to the doctor, Jorrie said she searched online to confirm some of his background. She verified his company was based in Nevada and that he had medical licenses in four states.

She also "Googled him," she said. "I Google everybody."

Jorrie said she attempted to email the revised contract to Murray, but the email bounced back. She then sent it to Woolley, who forwarded it to the doctor.

Murray called June 23 with additional changes that involved when his payments would begin and extending the time of his services from September 2009 to March 2010. Murray told her Jackson had agreed to pay his monthly salary for that extended time frame, she said.

Jorrie said she sent Murray another draft based on the changes. The next day, she testified, she received a copy of the agreement via fax that had been signed by Murray.

The attorney testified that she never directly communicated with Jackson or sent the singer or his representatives any versions of the contract, though there was a space set aside for the pop star's signature. The empty line on the contract shown to jurors Tuesday was dated June 24, which is when Jorie said she expected the parties involved to sign the final agreement.

Jackson died the next day.
 
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Judge ordered Panish to move on or she will finish his examination.
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Panish: When she says my client told that, why can't I ask about communication about that?
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Bina said it was done in good faith, Tohme told her he was an officer of the company. She said DiLeo also told Jorrie MJ approved the budget
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Panish: Nonetheless she, as concerned he was not the real Mccoy, brought document to him with $34 million for him to sign off.
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Panish: It's improper what she did, your honor. As member of the bar, she knew as of January that this person was not officer of the company
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Panish explained what he was trying to do, that Jorrie volunteers and continue to volunteer what is not asked, almost more than any witness.
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"If you don't move on I'll shut down the examination," Judge Palazuelos told Panish.
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Judge: I don't want to waste time with that, over and over. I know you understand the ruling, I assume you have nothing better to ask.
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Judge: As to the budget -- she keeps telling you she didn't review it. Any question about the budget is without foundation.
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Judge Yvette Palazuelos to Panish: You keep invading attorney-client privilege.
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Judge sustained the objection and ordered lunch break.
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Panish: Mr Trell never told you about this document (MJ's termination of Tohme)
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Judge told Panish to move on or she will cease the examination.
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Panish: Was Dr. Tohme there on the budget for $200,000?
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Jorrie: I know Dr. Murray was not paid because he was not entitled to be paid.
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Panish argued Jorrie doesn't know what's on the budget, so how does she know the Estate paid what's requested.
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Jorrie: Why would the Estate approve the expenses then, sir?
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"I have never seen a single piece of paper saying Tohme was not an office of the company," Jorrie said.
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Panish asked if Jorrie saw the attached budget. "I never looked at that, that was Paul's job," she answered.
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"I had nothing in writing that said Tohme was an officer of Michael Jackson's company," Jorrie testified.
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Since Jorrie testified she didn't read the document, there is no foundation for her to answer the question. Judge sustained the objection.
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Jorrie said budget was given to her by Gongaware. Panish asked if the budget included payment of $150k/month, times 2 months, for Murray.
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Panish said the document she handed to Tohme has a budget attached to it. Jorrie said she did not review the attached budget.
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"I didn't ask him that question," Jorrie said.

Panish asked if she discussed w/ Branca about Tohme signing the doc. Jorrie said she didn't
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Panish asked if Jorrie inquired John Branca, MJ's attorney, if Tohme was authorized to sign on behalf of Michael Jackson Company, LLC.
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Panish: Did you make any effort to confirm Tohme was an officer of the company? Jorrie said she spoke with Tohme about it.
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Panish: Did you see any document saying Tohme was an agent of Michael Jackson's company?
Jorrie: I had not seen any such documents.
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Jorrie: He confirmed to me, at the meeting, that he was an officer of Michael Jackson's company.
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Panish: You never asked Tohme after MJ died if he was an officer of MJ's company?
Jorrie: That's right.
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3.The undersigned Dr. Tohme Tohme represents he's officer of Artistco, has full authority to act on behalf of Artistco/to sign this document
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1.I hereby confirm that Artistco (MJ) approved the attached budget of expenses which includes Production Costs and Pool Expenses
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Letter from Concerts West to The Michael Jackson Company, LLC Jorrie helped draft, dated June 28, 2009.
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The document, signed by Michael Jackson, terminated Dr. Tohme's representation as his manager.

Jorrie said she does not recall seeing it.
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Panish showed Jorrie a letter from Michael Jackson to Randy Phillips on April 22, 2009.
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The document was prepared by Trell and Jorrie prior to the meeting at Branca's office.
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Panish: And the word "consent" was there?
Jorrie: I'm not sure it was there.
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Panish: And you and Mr. Trell had a document you gave Tohme at the meeting?
Jorrie: Yes.
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Panish: AEG had $27 million out there that they had spent?
Jorrie: That's my understanding.
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Total expense was around $34 million, plus $7.5 million that was pre-approved based on the contract resulted in $27 million outstanding.
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Panish: But you needed someone approved by MJ's company, right?
Jorrie: That's why we had confirmation he was an agent.
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Jorrie said in the meeting they were getting consent from Tohme that production expenses had been approved by MJ's company.
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Panish: Before MJ died you had nothing in writing that MJ was not the sole company officer?
Jorrie: Nothing in writing was provided to me.
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Jorrie received that information from MJ's attorney, Dennis Hawk.
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As of January 2009, Michael Jackson was the sole officer and signatory of Michael Jackson Company, LLC.
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Panish: Who signed the tour agreement on behalf of Michael Jackson's company?
Jorrie: Michael Jackson.
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Jorrie was involved in drafting a consent agreement for Tohme to sign.
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Panish: You never spoke with Michael Jackson, did you?
Jorrie: Not once.
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Panish inquired if Jorrie could've asked MJ directly if Tohme was an officer of his company. She said yes, if she felt it was necessary.
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Panish: Did you look up to see if Dr. Tohme was an officer of MJ's LLC?
Jorrie said in Delaware you can't check officers for LLC online.
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During the meeting on June 28, Jorrie said Tohme told her, personally, that he was an officer of Michael Jackson Company, LLC.
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Jorrie said she believed Dr. Tohme was an officer of MJ's company prior to June 28, 2009. Paul Gongaware may have been the one telling her.
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Panish: And that day you didn't have anything in writing approving $34 million in expenses?
Jorrie: Correct.
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Panish: On that day you questioned if Dr. Tohme was an officer of Michael Jackson's company?
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Panish: AEG was out $34-plus million at the time?
Jorrie: I believe so, perhaps more.
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On June 28, 2009, there was a meeting at John Branca's office with all the higher ups for AEG and MJ's representatives.
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Jorrie said she doesn't recall if Weitzman was the first person who told her about Dr. Tohme not representing MJ at one point.
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Frank DiLeo may also have told her, she said. There's also litigation about it as well.
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Jorrie said Howard Weitzman, attorney for Michael Jackson's Estate, told her about Tohme in connection with litigation several years ago.
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The fact that Tohme stopped representing MJ came up and it's in litigation, Jorrie said.
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Panish: Did you ever learn Tohme ceased being MJ's manager?
Jorrie: To my best recollection, that issue came up after Mr. Jackson's passing.
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Jorrie said she sent the contract to Michael Jackson's representatives.
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Jorrie was not allowed to answer, since it calls to interpretation of the contract.
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Panish asked, if under the contract, Michael Jackson was prohibited to tour except if done with AEG.
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The contract says the shows were not to exceed 1 per day and 3.5 shows per 7 days.
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Panish: And the term was Dec 2011 or conclusion of world tour, whichever occur later, right?
Jorrie: That's what it says in the paragraph.
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Panish shows contract of Michael Jackson with AEG.
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Panish: The agreement specified the territory of the tour as the world, correct?
Jorrie: Correct
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Panish: Did you ever see a written agreement for more than 31 shows as stated on the contract?
Jorrie: No, not that I recall.
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Jorrie: I'm not privy to everything, so I don't know.
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Panish: At the time of MJ's death, are you aware of anyone approving production costs in excess of $7.5 million that was in the contract?
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Jorrie said it's actually June 28, 2009, not January as she previously stated. MJ died on June 25, 2009.
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Jorrie: On January 28, Dr. Tohme had provided written approval that MJ company had approved certain production costs.
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Panish: On January 28, Mr. Tohme approved the cost in excess of $7.5 million, correct?
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Dennis Hawk, Tohme Tohme and Michael Jackson's company received a copy of MJ contract with AEG, according to Jorrie's deposition.
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Panish said Jorrie refused to have her deposition videotaped. Jorrie explained she was not properly notified about video deposition.
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The attorney said she was very much involved in drafting Michael Jackson's agreement with AEG.
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Jorrie explained promoters and producers can and do negotiate third party vendors agreement as part of the business.
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Jorrie said background check was not done on Dr. Tohme, at least to her knowledge. She didn't do one.
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Jorrie explained she recommended at minimum that someone meet w/ MJ to make sure he understands he's entering into worldwide tour agreement.
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Panish showed email Jorrie wrote regarding Dr. Tohme and her concerns if he was the "real McCoy."
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Panish: And you recommended that a background check be done on Tohme, right?
Jorrie: As an alternative, yes.
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Panish asked Jorrie if she checks people on google. "That's usually my first step in the process," she responded.
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Jorrie said she googled Tohme and couldn't see he was a music manager.
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Panish: Did you ever have reservations in January 2009 about Dr. Tohme?
Jorrie: I did
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Michael Jackson's contract with AEG was signed on Jan 26, 2009.
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Jorrie said Dr. Tohme was a manager for Michael Jackson during the time they negotiated the tour and continued until the time of death.
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Jorrie explained that if the parties agreed, then the tour could go on beyond London.
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She said the world tour was contemplated, but it didn't mean it was going to happen.
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Jorrie explained some things had to happen before the world tour could take place.
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Panish: Did AEG ever enter into a tour agreement with Michael Jackson that required him to do a world tour?
Jorrie: Yes
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Panish asked if after reviewing LAPD's interview, Jorrie contacted Det. Smith to fix it. She said no, read it only months later.
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Panish: Do you remember you denying telling the police department that statement?
Jorrie: Yes
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Panish: Do you remember telling me yesterday that you never told LAPD that MJ was engaged to go on worldwide tour?
Jorrie: Yes
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Jorrie met w/ LAPD twice in her office. Det Smith questioned her, Putnam and Deborah Brazil, one of the DAs prosecuting Murray, were present
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Panish asked if Jorrie represented herself, since she is a lawyer. She said she doesn't know how to answer, you always rep yourself as atty
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"I really didn't feel like I needed representation in that meeting, sir," Jorrie said. "I was a witness."
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Regarding the LAPD conversation, Panish asked Jorrie if she was represented by Marvin Putnam in that meeting. She said no.
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Panish: Where you representing Michael Jackson when you were preparing Dr. Murray's contract?
Jorrie: I was not.
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Panish: Did you say you negotiated probably 75 agreements with artists?
Jorrie: It's about 75, but it could be more, all for AEG Live.
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Jorrie: It's my estimate that my firm received a little over $ 7 million since 2000, which is about $500,000/year for services for AEG Live.
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She also gathered an estimate AEG paid her law firm since 2000, covering 14 years of work. Panish asked if it was in excess of $7.2 million.
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Jorrie brought copy of the contract she used as template to draft Dr. Conrad Murray's agreement.
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Kathy Jorrie is back on the stand for cross examination. Brian Panish, attorney for the Jacksons, doing the questioning.
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Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 64 of Jackson family vs AEG trial, Week 15, is underway. We're now on lunch break.
 
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I’ll plan to have updates out at the lunch break, but will also be working on another story so my time is a bit crunched today.
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Ortega probably won’t finish testifying on Thursday, so AEG plans to bring him back next week. AEG plans to play videos on Friday.
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The court also took up some scheduling issues this morning. It sounds like Kenny Ortega will be back on the stand tomorrow.
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... (cont) to sign a few days after Jackson’s death.
Panish will likely ask more questions about this after the break.
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No authorization was obtained from Jackson. Before the break, Panish asked about a form that Jorrie got MJ’s former manager Tohme Tohme ...
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Panish has also been asking Jorrie about whether any authorization for tour expenses above $7.5 million was obtained before Jackson’s death.
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He has spent a lot of time on Michael Jackson’s touring agreement with AEG Live, asking Jorrie about terms in it.
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Cross examination by plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish continued this morning. He hasn’t yet asked about Conrad Murray’s contract.
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We’re back in session in Jackson vs AEG Live. Katherine and Trent Jackson are here today. Attorney Kathy Jorrie remains on the stand.
 
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Michael Jackson rehearses at the Staples Center in 2009. (Kevin Mazur / AP / June 23, 2009)
By Jeff Gottlieb
August 7, 2013, 7:27 p.m.
An attorney for AEG Live testified Wednesday at the Michael Jackson wrongful-death lawsuit trial that all three drafts of Dr. Conrad Murray’s contracts were sent to the concert promoter’s general counsel, but none to the pop star’s representatives.

A key element in the case is who Murray was working for.

Jackson's mother and three children are suing AEG Live, saying the company negligently hired and controlled Murray, who gave Jackson a fatal overdose of the anesthetic propofol as he was preparing for a comeback tour in 2009. AEG says it was Jackson who hired the doctor.

Kathy Jorrie also testified that while changes were made in the drafts of Murray’s contract, every version said Murray was to “Perform the services reasonably requested by Producer,” AEG.

Murray signed the final draft on June 24, 2009, the day before Jackson died. Neither Jackson nor an AEG representative had signed it.

Jorrie testified she told AEG Live Chief Executive Randy Phillips that Murray was successful, based on a 10-minute Google search and a conversation in which the doctor told her his four clinics were grossing $1 million a month. She testified that her Internet research turned up one clinic in Nevada and another in Texas.

She didn’t discover that Murray was actually deeply in debt. Under questioning by Brian Panish, the Jackson family attorney, she said she hadn’t checked to see if his house was in foreclosure or if he owed child support.

“I could have,” Jorrie said.

Jorrie’s characterization of Murray would come back to haunt Phillips, who wrote an email a few days before Jackson died saying he was “gaining immense respect” for him. “This doctor is extremely successful (we check everyone out)… “

Murray was eventually convicted of involuntary manslaughter and is serving a jail sentence.

The trial also turned to AEG’s relationship with Tohme Tohme, the singer's sometime manager, a man who was referred to as a “doctor” even though no one seemed to know whether he really was a physician or held a Phd.

Jurors were shown letters and emails Jackson wrote saying Tohme was not his representative, although concert promoter and producer AEG Live acted as if he were.

Jorrie expressed reservations about Tohme as early as January 2009, five months before the singer died.

In an email to AEG executives, she wondered "whether or not he is the real McCoy... Nonetheless, I recommend that a background check be performed through a private investigator and/or at a minimum, that someone at AEG Live meet with Michael Jackson to make sure he understands that we are entering into a tour agreement with him that will require him to perform a worldwide tour.”

No private investigator was hired.

A copy of the email was sent to Peter Lopez, one of Jackson’s attorneys.

On April 22, 2009, Jackson wrote Phillips, “This letter shall serve to confirm that I am not using Dr. Tohme for tour production management services and that I do not intend to use Dr. Tohme in the future for tour production management services or with respect to other event related matters.

"Therefore, you are not authorized to pay Dr. Tohme or any of his affiliated companies for any such services in connection with my upcoming tour or any future tours or other events..."

Jorrie testified she did not see the letter before Jackson died on June 25, 2009.

However, on June 28, 2009, three days after Jackson died, Tohme was given a document to approve payment of the $34 million AEG had advanced the singer. Jorrie testified the document was drawn up by her and Shawn Trell, AEG Live's general counsel. The document, signed by Tohme, said he was an officer of Michael Jackson Co. LLP and had authority to act on the company's behalf.

A Jan. 14, 2009, email from Jackson attorney Dennis Hawk to Jorrie said the singer was "the sole officer" of the company "and will be the signatory to the contract on behalf of the entity.”

Jorrie said AEG executive Paul Gongaware, a defendant in the suit, may have told her Tohme was an officer of the Jackson's company. Included in the document were 35 pages of expenses that Jackson supposedly owed AEG.

Jorrie testified that the document was never sent to Jackson's lawyers, even though it was handed to Tohme in the office of one of them.
 
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Branca was named executor of MJ's estate, had to be approved by probate court.
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Jorrie said John Branca requested a meeting on June 28, 2009 to discuss several issues, among which how to unravel the tour.
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Bina showed the document Tohme Tohme signed approving the costs of production.
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Jorrie explained, based on the contract, AEG was to recoup all costs incurred for production. Outstanding balance was MJ's responsibility.
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Bina: Based on that provision, if they request them (costs), they are responsible for them?
Jorrie: Yes
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Contract Section 8.2 -- Production cost
Initial production advance not to exceed $7.5 million.
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Bina asked about paragraph 11 of MJ's contract, which talked about "Approvals." It says no party can withhold approval unreasonably.
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Jorrie told LAPD detective that the agreement had potential to be extended to a world tour, based on mutually-approved itinerary.
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"Michael Jackson could've chosen not to approve the itinerary," Jorrie said.
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"The tour agreement had a potential to be a world tour" Jorrie said. "In order for tour to continue beyond London, the parties had to agree"
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Jorrie: My clients received the judgment. It was appealed and the judgment in favor of my clients was affirmed.
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Jorrie said plaintiffs claimed they were using Concerts West name without permission.

"We prevailed in all counts," Jorrie said.
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Panish's old firm represented the children, Jorrie said. It was a trademark infringement case.
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She said it was a lawsuit filed by the children of Tom Hulett against AEG Live, Paul Gongaware and John Meglen.
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Bina asked about the time Jorrie represented Gongaware and Meglen.
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Jorrie said she values the relationship with AEG, but that does not prevent her from testifying in a truthful manner.
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Jorrie said the names of the files included all signatories of contract.
"Because it was for Michael Jackson's physician," Jorrie explained
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Panish concluded cross examination. Jessica Stebbins Bina did re-direct of Jorrie.
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Jorrie's files:
Murray Agreement 6-15-09
Revised MJ/AEG/GCA Holdings Agreement 6-18-09
Final MJ-AEG-GCA Holdings Agreement/Dr Murray 6-23-09
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Jorrie sent the last version to Murray on June 23, 2009. All versions said 4.1- Perform the Services reasonably requested by Producer.
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"I did not check anything with MJ's representatives about Dr. Murray's contract," Jorrie testified.
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Panish asked if Jorrie checked with anyone in MJ's camp whether the artist had indeed approved the extension of the contract. She said no.
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Dr. Murray would receive salary for 3 months plus without working, since the tour would be off, Jorrie said.
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Dr. Murray called Jorrie on June 23, 2009 and told her he spoke with MJ about extending the end of the contract to March.
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She did not send MJ or his reps any draft of the agreement, but sent them to Shawn Trell at AEG.
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Jorrie never communicated with anyone representing Michael Jackson regarding Dr. Murray's contract.
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Panish: Dr. Murray could keep, sell or have someone else run his practices as to retain the $12 million/year revenue?
Jorrie: Yes
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Panish asked Jorrie if Dr. Murray had to shut down his practice in order to work for MJ. She said no.
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Panish: Your successful assessment was based on what Murray told you?
Jorrie: Yes
P: You verified licenses, googled him for 10 mins?
J: Yes
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Jorrie: I think I told him he (doctor) appeared to be successful and may have told him about his practices making a million dollars a month.
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Panish: Did you tell Phillips Dr. Murray made a million dollars a month?
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Jorrie: No, it was based on my conversation with him and verifying the fact that he was licensed to practice medicine in 4 states.
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Panish: And you determined Dr. Murray was successful based on 2 clinics?
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"I definitely said he (Murray) appears to be successful," Jorrie said about her conversation with Randy Phillips.
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Jorrie conceded she could've searched Dr. Murray in Lexis.
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Jorrie didn't check any pending lawsuits, litigation regarding child support or if Dr. Murray's properties were in foreclosure.
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Jorrie uses Lexis for legal research, she said. Panish asked if she checked how many judgments existed against Dr. Murray. She said not.
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She said she doesn't know.

Panish: Sometimes you do freebies for AEG?
Jorrie: Yes, for all my clients.
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The attorney said she spent about 10 minutes researching Dr. Murray online. Panish asked if Jorrie charged AEG for the time she spent.
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Jorrie said the clinics were in Nevada and Texas, didn't find anything in Hawaii and California.
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"I don't know for sure it was his companies," Jorrie admitted. "It was my assumption they were his."
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Jorrie explained she looked up Dr. Murray's medical license and two clinics are named.
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Jorrie said she could find addresses for only 2 clinics, but Dr. Murray told her he had 4 medical practices.
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Panish: He was making a million dollars with two clinics?
Jorrie: He said he had 4 medical practice, but I only found 2 clinics.
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Jorrie put Conrad Murray and the names of his two clinics on google.
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Panish said $150,000 per month equates to $5,000 a day for 30 days.

Panish: Did you find his website?
Jorrie: No, I didn't find a website.
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"He told me his four medical practice was grossing a million dollars a month," Jorrie testified.
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Panish asked if AEG could terminate Dr. Murray without the consent of Michael Jackson. Jorrie said yes.
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Jorrie: Yes

Panish discussed paragraphs 3 and 4 of the contract, which spelled out the obligations for AEG and Dr. Murray.
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DA asked if irrespective of the contract becoming activated, Murray was contemplating compensation from a period retroactively to 5/1/09.
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Panish played another part of Jorrie's testimony in the criminal trial.
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Panish: Did you ever testify that payments had been promised to Dr. Murray retroactively to May 1?
Jorrie: Yes, once the contract was signed
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May 1, 2009 is the commencement of the contract. Jorrie sent the contract to Dr. Murray on June 15, 6 weeks later.
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Panish played video of Jorrie's testimony in Murray's trial. She said in latter part of May, Wooley advised her he needed contract prepared.
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CPR machine was on the list Wooley provided to Jorrie regarding the requirements for Dr. Murray.
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Jorrie: That's not right, Mr. Wooley didn't give me an ending date, for instance.
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Panish: Regarding pay, equipment, starting and ending date provided by Mr. Wooley and not Dr. Murray, correct?
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Panish showed the template contract Jorrie used to create Dr. Murray's agreement. Jorrie said she took out paragraph 7 about Conflicts.
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Panish: Dr. Murray was undertaking acts that were spelled out in the contract?
Jorrie: I was told he was the personal physician for 3 years.
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Panish: They were undertaking acts that were spelled out in the contract?
Jorrie: Yes.
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Panish asked if it was in anticipation the contract would be all signed by July 3, 2009.
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Jorrie spoke with Murray about getting medical license to work in the UK. She knew Brigitte Segal was looking for housing in London for him.
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Panish: Did you ever tell Dr. Murray he could not perform work without a fully executed contract?
Jorrie: Of course not.
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Wooley did not tell Jorrie that Dr. Murray's services were being rendered.
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Panish: Did Dr. Murray ever tell you he met with AEG personal at anyone's request?
Jorrie: No
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Jorrie said she doesn't recall receiving or seeing this email. Murray never told her he was meeting with AEG people regarding his contract.
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Email cont'd: As for good faith with my client I'm sure that you are aware that my services are already fully engaged with Mr. Jackson.
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Email from Murray to Wooley:
I am basically in agreement and reiterate that your memo is correct pursuant to our conversation of May 8, 2009
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Jorrie said she never worked on a contract for a doctor to go on tour, except for Michael Jackson.
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Jorrie explained she doesn't recall working on agreements where AEG was both producer and promoter of the show.
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Jury entered the courtroom at 1:42 pm PT. Katherine Jackson is present in court wearing a navy blue jacket over a floor-length dress.
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Jacksons attorneys want the judge to tell the jurors to disregard it, since the implication is the Estate didn't recognize contract as valid
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Panish asked the judge to strike testimony of Jorrie when she issued opinion that the Estate didn't pay Murray because he wasn't entitled to
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After lunch, outside the presence of the jury, Panish told judge he's excluding anything that's potential violation of atty-client privilege
 
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I’ve had some other writing to do this week and other stories to work on this week.
I’ll be back in court when it resumes at 9:45 a.m. PDT.
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I’ll try to post more updates tomorrow, and possibly a story on Ortega’s testimony depending on what he says.
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As usual, @ABC7Courts has a comprehensive rundown of today’s testimony. Not going to be able to compete with them again today.
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Ortega will be re-called as a defense witness next week, Putnam has said. His testimony is being split to accommodate his work schedule.
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Ortega is a plaintiff’s witness, so when cross-examination is finished and Panish completes his questions, plaintiff’s case should be over.
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Tomorrow’s witness will be Kenny Ortega, who should take the full day. AEG Live attorney Marvin Putnam will be doing cross-examination.
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AEG Live defense attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina started her next round of questioning, but will have to resume on Friday.
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Kathy Jorrie did not finish testifying today. Plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish finished his cross-examination late in the afternoon.
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We’re done for the day and I’ve only got a few minutes for updates, so here’s where things stand on the Jackson vs AEG Live case.
 
Jacksons vs AEG - Day 65 - August 8 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

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Ortega: He said don't leave me, I'm gonna take the reins, you'll see I'm going to change this. He seemed absolutely committed at that point.
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Putnam: MJ assured you that he was fine? Ortega: I didn't feel assured
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Dr. Murray told Ortega to quit being an amateur doctor and that MJ was physically fit to show, the director recalled.
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At the meeting, Dr. Murray told Ortega to stay out of it and to leave MJ's health for him to take care.
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Ortega said he thought it was a responsible way to deal with it, and pretty immediate after the fact.
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There was a meeting scheduled next day to address MJ's problems on June 19.
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Ortega sent an email after seeing MJ that way because he thought Phillips and Gongaware should know about it.
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Putnam: You have never seen Mr. Jackson like that before? Ortega: No.
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Putnam: It never crossed your mind it could be drug related? Ortega: No, I was thinking it was something else.
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Ortega: It didn't appear to me it was drugs, it appeared to me it was something else, emotional.
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"I felt somewhat calm when we left," Ortega said. But he said he was still concerned, thus the email he sent to AEG high ups.
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Putnam: He was coherent? Ortega: Yes P: Warmed up? O: A bit P: More engaged? O: Yes P: Calm? O: Yes
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Putnam asked if throughout the night on June 19th, if MJ got better. Ortega said yes.
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"I supposed I might have suggested it could look that way," Ortega said. "It would've been a really, really bad flu."
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Putnam asked if Ortega testified before he thought MJ had a really bad case of flu.
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Putnam asked about June 19, 2009. "I'll always remember June 19," Ortega said.
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Ortega: I think they were trying to create a schedule to factor in all of Michael's needs (like family) and still could come to rehearsal.
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Ortega: In this stage of the game, Mr. Phillips took on overseeing position to make sure the schedule was responsible for Michael.
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"I looked at Mr. Phillips as the promoter, Michael's promoter and producing partner," Ortega testified.
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Ortega said he never spoke with Timm Wooley about scheduling.
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He explained he didn't think Phillips was involved as much in MJ's scheduling, but was overseeing it.
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Ortega said he learned from Randy Phillips that Dr. Murray was responsible to get MJ to rehearsals on June 15, 2009.
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Ortega: But at the end, I believe they thought Michael had what he wanted.
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Ortega: I think we were getting in a place were we had a ceiling, because we were already with a fat budget.
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He said there were professional discussions like 'is this something you really feel it's going to benefit,' 'do you really need this.'
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Ortega said he would ask Gongaware for more and more things to create the show. Gongaware never denied anything.
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Ortega: Everything we brought to AEG, in terms of enormous creative needs, that AEG was very supportive in doing all they could.
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Putnam: Did you ever see AEG pressure Michael in any way? Ortega: No Putnam: Did you feel AEG Live supported MJ? Ortega: Yes
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Ortega: I thought of MJ as my partner, I didn't think of him as my boss. But MJ always had the final creative say in all the years we worked
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Putnam: Who did you consider your boss? Ortega: Michael.
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"A lot meaning 3-4 times a week," Ortega clarified. He said things changed as they were moving to the Forum, which was end of May.
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Ortega said February, March and April MJ was very involved in the creation of the show, would show up a lot.
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"At the end of the day, creatively, we trusted Michael knew what we needed," Ortega said.
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Putnam: Why? Ortega: Because he was brilliant and he knew what he was doing.
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"Final say would be Michael," Ortega said. "Michael had final creative say."
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"He would just make it happen," Ortega said. He could not recall Gongaware denying anything.
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"I'd go and say 'this is what we'd like,'" Ortega said. Putnam: Did he ever tell you you couldn't get something? Ortega: No.
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"We talked about these things together and I'd go with Michael's blessing to Paul to begin the process," Ortega explained.
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"Because the creative person was Michael, and myself," Ortega explained.
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Ortega did not discuss with Gongaware anything related to creative matters.
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Ortega would discuss with Michael about hiring someone and the director would go to Gongaware to get the contract drawn and the person hired
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Ortega explained he dealt with Gongaware regarding technical things, like moving dates to new rehearsal venue, delivery of stage parts, etc.
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Ortega said he reported to Michael Jackson for the creative side of the tour and regarding budget/financial matters he reported to Gongaware
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Ortega said AEG Live and MJ were co-producers of the show.
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Regardless of who contacted him first, Ortega said he was hired because Michael Jackson wanted him.
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Ortega testified he never really fully understand Dr. Tohme's role related to MJ. He thought was a friend.
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Ortega said he didn't really know who Dr. Tohme was, have never met the guy at that point. Tohme said he called on behalf of MJ.
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Putnam: Do you remember as you sit here today who first contacted you? Ortega: I'm not really certain.
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In Dr. Murray's criminal trial, Ortega said it was Paul Gongaware.
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In a deposition related to Lloyds of London litigation, Ortega also said Dr. Tohme first reached out to him regarding TII.
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Putnam showed Ortega's deposition transcript. "In deposition, I remember it to be Dr. Tohme," Ortega said.
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Ortega said he doesn't remember who he said reached out to him first regarding the tour in his deposition.
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Putnam: Is it fair to say you were the "TII" director because of MJ? Ortega: Yes.
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"He told me he only wanted me," Ortega said about Michael Jackson's wished that he be the director.
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"People were calling it a tour but it was more like an event," Ortega explained.
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Putnam: Did you consider it a tour? Ortega: We called it tour, term used in the industry, but we weren't really touring, it was 1 venue.
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Ortega went thru all the pages of his contract and said: "I do not see that anywhere."
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Putnam read Murray's contract were it says the contract is not valid unless MJ consented to it and asked if Ortega has that in his contract.
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Ortega: That's what I understand it's in my contract Ortega's contract does not have a signature line for Michael Jackson.
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Putnam: If tour was successful, you already have in your agreement what you'd be paid in bonus, correct?
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"The shows were not booked or guaranteed," Ortega said. "That's what I think Michael hoped to do, but wasn't booked."
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In Ortega's contract, there is a provision for bonus in case "This Is It" tour went around the world.
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"I can recall specifically, but I'm sure in my 40-something years in this business that has occurred," Ortega testified.
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"It's sort of common in the industry," Ortega said. Putnam: If you don't reach an agreement, you could work and not get paid? Ortega: Yes
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Ortega said he has put himself in the position of working prior to signing a contract. "It's what I call working in good faith."
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Putnam: You were paid after the contract was executed, right? Ortega: That's what appears in this document.
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Ortega looked at the document and said he was paid on May 11, 2009, which is after he signed his contract.
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In his deposition, Ortega was shown documents to refresh his recollection. Putnam showed him the same documents.
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Ortega's contract was executed on April 26, 2009. "I believe I was paid in advance of signing," Ortega said.
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"I was only contracted, and we were only focused, on the London tour at this time," Ortega explained.
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Putnam: Did you understand you were an employee of AEG Live? Ortega: No P: What were you employee of? O: K.O. Company
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AEG Live had an agreement with K.O. Company for the services of Ortega.
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Putnam showed Ortega a "Certificate of Employment -- Loan-Out," which Ortega said it's certificate that he works for The K.O. Company, Inc.
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Ortega is under cross examination by AEG's attorney Marvin Putnam. Ortega had professional engagement overseas, not available until today.
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Judge said they are bringing Kenny Ortega back on the stand out of order to finish his testimony.
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Outside the presence of the jury, AEG attorney told judge he will be done 1st week of Sept or so. Panish said he has 4 rebuttal witnesses.
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"It is what it is," judge said. She told jurors before they would get the case at the end of August.
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Judge: My estimate has now changed. The case will probably be submitted to you at the end of September.
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Jury entered the courtroom 10:10 am PT. Judge Yvette Palazuelos advised jurors she came up with new time estimate for the trial.
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Katherine Jackson is in court wearing an ankle length black dress with a black and white polka dot jacket.
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Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 65 of Jackson family vs AEG trial, Week 15, is underway. Session now in lunch break.
 
Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 65 - August 8 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

MJ PRODUCER KENNY ORTEGA
MJ Controlled His Life
AND HIS DEATH
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The man who skippered Michael Jackson's "This Is It" rehearsals blamed the pop star for the predicament that led to his death.

Kenny Ortega, the tour's director and producer, testified in the Michael Jackson wrongful death trial this morning that Michael called the shots, adding, "I don't think he was being very responsible."

Ortega -- who was called as a witness by AEG Live -- testified he was not responsible for MJ's health. Ortega told the jury that Michael was squarely in charge, and made it clear that the singer and Conrad Murray called the shots when it came to MJ's well-being.

Ortega's testimony is critical, because Ortega is linked to AEG and had day-to-day contact with Jackson. Katherine Jackson is trying to show AEG called the shots and hired Dr. Conrad Murray. Ortega is clearly taking issue with Katherine.

In fact, Ortega came close to saying when it came to medical treatment, he was Michael's bitch, having to endure scoldings by Dr. Conrad Murray when the doc felt Ortega was contradicting him.


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/08/08/micha...l-this-is-it-conrad-murray-aeg/#ixzz2bPsNV9RB
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