Jermaine Writing Book On Life With MJ *Book To Be Released Sept 13*

[MsCassieMollie]

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Jerms talking about the "escape plan" story and the media twisting it:

jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@ohmylovelyone I understand media reality, hence why I wrote the book. My words, not theirs
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@ohmylovelyone @Jay6385 #thingsthatshouldbebanned: people who react to everything they read in newspapers and don't await full story
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@DLang567 in that case, there will be those who believe the articles and those who'll read the actual book & my words #choiceswemake
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[TheChosenOne]

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I appreciate what Jermaine trying to do but more people are going to read the media's version than are going to read Jermaine's book.

I had hoped that by now the Jackson family would realise that everything they say about Michael gets twisted. They could go on a show to promote a project and the one or two things that they say about Michael becomes the headline news. What they are promoting gets lost in the background.

 

[xthunderx2]

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I appreciate what Jermaine trying to do but more people are going to read the media's version than are going to read Jermaine's book.

I had hoped that by now the Jackson family would realise that everything they say about Michael gets twisted. They could go on a show to promote a project and the one or two things that they say about Michael becomes the headline news. What they are promoting gets lost in the background.

so am I correct in my theory that Jermaine has set up the media? That he said this stuff on purpose to see how the media twists the truth...or takes peoples statements out of text?

 

[Ashtanga]

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Wow!


This book of Jerma will be.... :wtf: :fear: And here we go.... *big sigh*

 

[MsCassieMollie]

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I appreciate what Jermaine trying to do but more people are going to read the media's version than are going to read Jermaine's book.

I had hoped that by now the Jackson family would realise that everything they say about Michael gets twisted. They could go on a show to promote a project and the one or two things that they say about Michael becomes the headline news. What they are promoting gets lost in the background.

Unfortunately that's true...

 

[Autumn II]

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The timing could not possibly have been WORSE. I see now that the story IS warping and has hit mainstream media (I just don't have the heart to post links, but it's really, really NOT good, as in, "an innocent person wouldn't have planned a get-away," and all the stuff that could be expected.) How could Jermaine not KNOW this would be the result of his words? It's mind-staggering, that he would not know? He could have lived the rest of his life, without ever saying, "there was a private plane ready to take him out of the country." What WAS he thinking?

I'll say THIS. That narrative of what Michael did in the hospital made me CRY. . . . you'd think that after all this time, I'd be all cried OUT? Guess not? Michael did nothing but GOOD in his life, and surely didn't deserve the shredding, and TORTURE, that he got in the press. Did Jerm really not know the extent of Michael's vitiligo? They must have had little or no contact, for many years.

Are we DONE yet? (apparently. . .not)

 

[MsCassieMollie]

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The media is just acknowledging by what Jermaine meant about this "escape plan!
Jackson Family Clarifies "Plan" to Help Michael Jackson Flee U.S. if Convicted - E! Online

You know what they say, the family that stays together...makes getaways together?

Well, at least for King of Pop Michael Jackson! Or maybe not...

After telling the London Times that the musical family planned to save the artist back in 2005 if he was convicted of child molestation, brother Jermaine Jackson's rep clarifies to E! News just exactly what he meant by "plan."

After telling the paper the game plan was for Michael to flee the country via a private jet to Bahrain, which does not have an extradition treaty with the U.S., Jermaine's rep Steve Dennis explains it wasn't meant to be taken literally.

Jermaine's rep explains: "It wasn't an actual plan, because if he was convicted, he would be handcuffed and put in jail." Adding, "It was an idea Michael was unaware of. It was supposed to be demonstrative of how desperate Jermaine was. He felt the justice system was so against Michael...He was determined to get him out, he was determined to save him from persecution [if convicted]."

The family's scheme, or "plan" if you will, is further detailed in Jermaine's book, You Are Not Alone: Michael Through a Brother's Eyes (to be published this week), which includes Jermaine's explanation of what drove the family to cook up a such radical scenario: "If they were going to sit and crucify my brother for something that he didn't do, America deserves us not to come back here."

Michael, who died in June 2009 at 50 after an overdose of the anaesthetic propofol, reportedly remained unaware of the plan as the star was found not guilty of all charges in June 2005 at the end of a four-month trial.

 

[TheChosenOne]

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I would not say that. I don't think he has the same passive-aggressive tendencies that LaToya has.

But I think he is naive.

so am I correct in my theory that Jermaine has set up the media? That he said this stuff on purpose to see how the media twists the truth...or takes peoples statements out of text?

 

[xthunderx2]

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I would not say that. I don't think he has the same passive-aggressive tendencies that LaToya has.

But I think he is naive.

sad sad,,just so sad. This sure was NOT the time for Jermaine to pull a stunt like this. I think he just wants people to buy his book

 

[TheChosenOne]

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Jermaine is naive and simple-minded. After all these years of seeing how Michael was dealt with you would think he would know certain things can and would be sensationalised! Maybe he likes to think that he could have handled the media better than Michael did but umm, no ....

What you write and what you say can be interpreted in many ways and the media always finds an interpretation that brings dishonour to people. So Jermaine should never assume that because he THINKS that he has said or written something clearly, does not mean that a negative spin will not be placed on it because it will.

That WHOLE family need to sit down with a professional who can sort them out in terms of PR because they majorly suck.

And I am not saying Jermaine should not defend his brother, because he should. I am just saying that he, LaToya, Mrs Jackson and even Janet need to be prepped by a professional before they open their mouths and talk about Michael (if they are determined as they say to protect his legacy).

This is SERIOUS business.

 

[Ashtanga]

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As I said in another thread about it....

Well, sure Michael would never agree with such a escape plan and obviously... flee, would be a terrible mistake and stupid that could further worsen the situation for Michael.

 

[Autumn II]

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That WHOLE family need to sit down with a professional who can sort them out in terms of PR because they majorly suck.

This is SERIOUS business.

Totally agree. A good PR person, with an overview of the whole situation, and especially the upcoming trial, should have, and could have, reviewed ALL Jackson family statements and positions. It seems that they are getting NO professional advice, at all.

This is not happening without CONTEXT. The most important thing, coming up soon, is the TRIAL, and I just wish that this family could pull together, and get some professional, PR, help!

 

[marebear]

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This family is crazy. Every time it looks like Michael gets some respect, his family does or says something that brings it all back down again. Michael would not flee the country like that and like people said it would be impossible. He would have gone straight to jail if convicted. Even if it is said Michael knew nothing it will get twisted anyway to make him look bad. Thanks again to his own family who know how the media works for goodness sake.

 

[Victory22]

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A cutie, a genius and a wonderful person. I really miss you MJ. You were unique.

 

[la_cienega]

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I appreciate what Jermaine trying to do but more people are going to read the media's version than are going to read Jermaine's book.

I had hoped that by now the Jackson family would realise that everything they say about Michael gets twisted. They could go on a show to promote a project and the one or two things that they say about Michael becomes the headline news. What they are promoting gets lost in the background.

Did he have a choice in that escape plan thing being the excerpt chosen though? 'Cause normally when they serialize books they choose the weirdest worst depressingest part (note to newspaper journalists: this is a big reason why I never end up buying those books) so I was expecting the part chosen to be less than rosey.

I expect the same from Frank Cascio's book too if it's serialized, they'll use one part that sounds crazy to grab people's attention.

In fairness to Jermaine the escape plan thing was the smallest part of the excerpt. The rest of it was much more interesting. I'm personally shocked that Jermaine acknowledged any abuse from Joe, I didn't think he would because he's always downplayed it and he is Joe's favourite.

That WHOLE family need to sit down with a professional who can sort them out in terms of PR because they majorly suck.

And I am not saying Jermaine should not defend his brother, because he should. I am just saying that he, LaToya, Mrs Jackson and even Janet need to be prepped by a professional before they open their mouths and talk about Michael (if they are determined as they say to protect his legacy).

This is SERIOUS business.

AMEN to this! And Mike's kids also desperately need a PR guru, because they're placing themselves in situations that are just ripe for something to backfire. They really need to understand how far their words go and how careful they have to be. I feel like Mike was the only one who seemed to understand that.

I really believe Jermaine is really trying though, so I'll give him credit. I wish he had more of a link with fans, because we could tell him things that would help his case, like making sure he gets the year about MJ's pneumothorax right, or that he shouldn't tell the world he wanted to make Mike a felon.

He called Jermaine "erm"?

He'd call him "Germ/Jerm" so maybe 'Erm sometimes too.

I'm also hoping he brings up the vitiligo to Dr Drew, I'm hoping he included photos in his book because it amazes me how many people don't believe photos of his vitiligo exist.

 

[BE.86]

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Jermaine is naive and simple-minded. After all these years of seeing how Michael was dealt with you would think he would know certain things can and would be sensationalised! Maybe he likes to think that he could have handled the media better than Michael did but umm, no ....

What you write and what you say can be interpreted in many ways and the media always finds an interpretation that brings dishonour to people. So Jermaine should never assume that because he THINKS that he has said or written something clearly, does not mean that a negative spin will not be placed on it because it will.

That WHOLE family need to sit down with a professional who can sort them out in terms of PR because they majorly suck.

And I am not saying Jermaine should not defend his brother, because he should. I am just saying that he, LaToya, Mrs Jackson and even Janet need to be prepped by a professional before they open their mouths and talk about Michael (if they are determined as they say to protect his legacy).

This is SERIOUS business.

Thank you!!!!!!!!!

 

[Rhilo]

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In fairness to Jermaine the escape plan thing was the smallest part of the excerpt. The rest of it was much more interesting. I'm personally shocked that Jermaine acknowledged any abuse from Joe, I didn't think he would because he's always downplayed it and he is Joe's favourite.

I have this feeling, that in conclusion, Jermaine will explain away Joseph's abuse in an appreciative manner, saying he did it out of love. I also think he will go on to say that even Michael understood and appreciated it as some form of 'tough love,' the same way he said Michael actually loved doing the Victory Tour (which, IMO is BS, since nothing Michael did thereafter suggested a desire to perform with the brothers again).

Because I really can't see Jermaine ending on that note; he has always defended Joseph.

 

[serendipity]

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And yet again we have to read and hear in the media about the molestation trial, thanks to the Jacksons. Just recently it was all brought back again thanks to them inviting Gene Simmons and now this. Please someone tell me how is this helpful to Michael and his image in any way shape or form? Is this how the family members are supposedly "protecting his legacy"? How does that help him? Because the only thing that it is helping, from what I can see, is Jermaine's bank account.

 

[bluetopez]

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Doesn't sound like he defends AEG in the article when he's going down the raod that latoya took of others being involved! Did he changed his mind? Oh and I really hope he doesn't try to play off "Word To The bad" as him being naive about Mj condition. Cause as we know Vitiligo can be inherited, it runs in Joes side. And even joe rercalls seeing Mj with blotches as a child! Jermaine purposely wrote that song and recorded it. How can that be an accident? And he better not say that about the leak too, cause that was planned! I just wish he and the rest would fess up and just say they were wrong for what they did and stop spinning!

 

[Petrarose]

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so am I correct in my theory that Jermaine has set up the media? That he said this stuff on purpose to see how the media twists the truth...or takes peoples statements out of text?

Oh please thunder, like Jermaine would conceive such a deep plan. The only thing Jermaine is good at conceiving is children. I do not understand why this family does not know the impact their words have on the press. They act as though they do not understand how the media work.

Romana, even though you say that Jermaine thanked AEG and other points, I still believe that any money made from AEG, Katherine will share with her children and grandchildren. Jermaine knows that and his children are Katherine's grandchildren. Whether he supports AEG verbally has no credence to me because his words are not credible. He claims he is against a show because it falls within the trial, but I am not going to fool myself into believing that this is Jermaine's main reason--not when he has a book coming out. I notice that his family, like many families, often have these fractions where one group is against the idea presented by another group, but when it comes to money, they know that every one will get a share.

Jermaine is not good in taking help from PR people. Look at his tweets in the way he answers fans, sort of 'I will defend my brother because I was with him always, read the book." He puts his foot in his mouth and his PR has to try and clean it up with a statement. The whole family need to come forward and say we did not know about this. Only erm planned this in his head. Now lets see if we hear a peep from the others.

 

[qbee]

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I have this feeling, that in conclusion, Jermaine will explain away Joseph's abuse in an appreciative manner, saying he did it out of love. I also think he will go on to say that even Michael understood and appreciated it as some form of 'tough love,' the same way he said Michael actually loved doing the Victory Tour (which, IMO is BS, since nothing Michael did thereafter suggested a desire to perform with the brothers again).

Because I really can't see Jermaine ending on that note; he has always defended Joseph.

LOL Mabey he should quote Michael himself rather then he defend Joseph. But even though MJ forgave Joseph he stated he never understood him. And Joseph certainly continued to test MJ's patience. Michael refused him entrance into his life many times becuase of that. MJ kept his whole family at bay for the most part .. and for good reason. but certainly Not becuase he didnt Love them.

These are just excerts - Michael goes into more detail of why he felt Joseph was so strict in the speech
Every Fans should listen and read this speech. It is very important of what MJ was trying to teach us.

.. we have all been someone's child, and we know that despite the very best of plans and efforts, mistakes will always occur. That's just being human. And when I think about this, of how I hope that my children will not judge me unkindly, and will forgive my shortcomings, I am forced to think of my own father and despite my earlier denials, I am forced to admit that me must have loved me. He did love me, and I know that.

It all begins with forgiveness, because to heal the world, we first have to heal ourselves. And to heal the kids, we first have to heal the child within, each and every one of us. As an adult, and as a parent, I realise that I cannot be a whole human being, nor a parent capable of unconditional love, until I put to rest the ghosts of my own childhood.

And that's what I'm asking all of us to do tonight. Live up to the fifth of the Ten Commandments. Honour your parents by not judging them. Give them the benefit of the doubt. ... That is why I want to forgive my father and to stop judging him. I want to forgive my father, because I want a father, and this is the only one that I've got. I want the weight of my past lifted from my shoulders and I want to be free to step into a new relationship with my father, for the rest of my life, unhindered by the goblins of the past. ~ Michael Jackson


Michael Jackson Oxford University Speech
http://www.allmichaeljackson.com/speeches/oxforduni01.html

 

[Petrarose]

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Qbee you had very positive feelings about Jermaine's book earlier in the thread, do you still feel the same way after hearing some of the text, or are you waiting till you get the book to make a decision?

It is well-known that Michael forgave his father. It was the right thing for him to do. He could not go forward disliking him. I agree with that. That said, it does not mean that Michael condoned dad's behavior, or forgot it. He still felt the hurt. He merely accepted that his dad made mistakes and he, Michael had to move on. You can feel that hurt when he talks about wanting to cry when he hears a parent talking harshly to their kids. This means that the hurt is still inside him.

Why didn't he leave his elderly dad money in his will? He could have given him 1000 each month. Why even in TII he constantly says God Bless You and L.O.V.E.. Is it because people need that basic ingredient to motivate them and we should teach with love and caring? So he must have remembered that he was taught without basic love, but by the whip. He forgave dad, but did not forget.

 

[ivy]

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Jermaine's rep explains: "It wasn't an actual plan, because if he was convicted, he would be handcuffed and put in jail." Adding, "It was an idea Michael was unaware of. It was supposed to be demonstrative of how desperate Jermaine was. He felt the justice system was so against Michael...He was determined to get him out, he was determined to save him from persecution [if convicted]."

I really cannot understand how they can say it wasn't an actual plan. Read the excerpt " I grab the hotel phone and make a call. The person on the other end of the line provides the reassurance I needed to hear one more time. Yes the private jet is still available. Yes it can be at Van Nuys airport. Yes everything is arranged. Yes we are ready to whenever you are..." To me that sounds like an actual plan - if you have people ready to go on your phone call. Obviously not a well thought plan (unless Jermaine had a Prison Break plan as well) but nonetheless still a plan.

I'll see it full context when I get the book but honestly what Jermaine's rep says sound like a damage control to me.

 

[JMie]

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Jermaine can blame the media for twisting his words all he wants, I'm not buying any of it. No one forced him to write about the escape plan in the book and no one forced him to hint in the interview that Michael was in agreement with his plan ("he knew all the scenarios were covered and he would absolutely go on that plane"). It was stupid of Jermaine to mention it at all. He is almost 60 years old and he still doesn't understand that some things are better left unsaid. Sometimes you have to choose between making your book juicier and protecting your brother. And Jermaine made the wrong choice! He's an idiot but that's not an excuse for the things he's doing.

The trial starts in a couple of weeks, the jury is being selected now, and the only thing the Jacksons should be doing is advocate FOR Michael or, if they are not capable of that, keep silence. And instead they go to the media with their stupid stories and make everything much worse!!!

If you look at the last two years, the only bad press Michael got was thanks to his own family! Because the world fell in love with him again and was ready to focus on his wonderful legacy. But then the Jacksons decided to have an active social life and started giving interviews and writing books giving the media a field day!!!

So don't blame the press Jermaine! It's your own words and your own fault!

 

[Petrarose]

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Ivy the damage control cannot work if it makes no sense. What the rep should say is that only Jermaine was doing this and not the family, or the family did not know about it, but to say something that when you check the book it does not tally, is crazy. Just like Jermaine to get a rep that does not put his thinking cap on.

I hope Jermaine sits down now and plan an appropriate response when he is drilled about this on the coming TV shows. Can some members of this family try not to add further harm to Michael's name and legacy? Is this too much to ask?

 

[JMie]

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I am scared to think what other little stories we will find in his book.

 

[Petrarose]

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JMIE, I just want to highjack the thread a moment. When you went to Forest Lawn how many mins. is it from down town LA. I want to go there Friday and buy flowers for the first day of trial.

I can imagine how many savior stories are in that book, but which ones are true, only Jermaine knows.

 

[JMie]

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Petra, the first time I went by train from Union station to Glendale (about 5 min) and then about 10 min walk. And the second time I went by bus from downtown - about 20 min and the bus stop is right at the FL gate. Check the la transportation site www.mta.net for the routes that are convenient for you. You can put your hotel as the starting point in the trip planner and FL as the finish point, and it will show you all the possible ways to get there and the time it will take you to get there.

 

[Petrarose]

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Thanks JMie will do that. It is good that is close to down town.

 

[passy001]

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You know what? There is a reason why MJ cut them off his will. Everyday the Jack$on$ are proving him right. And to me, this is perhaps the best revenge that MJ got against them. it is so bittersweet. There is simply no justification for what they have done to MJ so far. The fans as always are left picking up the pieces just like MJ used to do when he was among us.

The trial is starting in a couple of weeks, and all they are doing is putting the focus back on child molestation. First, Gene Simmons and now, JJ and his stupid book. what's next? The timing couldn't have been worse because jury selection is underway.