Janet vs Beyonce - Battle Of The Divas

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I've never seen the comparisions of Janet and Beyonce.Beyonce is more like Michael than she is Janet. I compare Britney Spears to Janet. Their dancing, voices are similiar. Beyonce's stage presence, vocals, dancing,etc. compare more to Michael than Janet. According to Beyonce's OWN WORDS, there would be no Beyonce without MICHAEL JACKSON. Beyonce has ALWAYS said that her career is based on Michael's INFLUENCE and what he did in his career. She has always made that perfectly clear.

i understand but women break down other barries more for women then men do for women. n janet is one of those women who has done it for this generation just like women who have done it for her. the only thing tht beyonce n mj have similar is her worldwide success n thts it. everything esle is debatable. n everyone is unfluenced by mike no matter what genre and want a career as successful as his
 
Look what this thread turned into...lol

Last time I checked it...it had like 2 or 3 replies, and now this...lol

Thank you to those who have watched the videos. Didn't mean to cause any controversy.

....but since we're already on the controversial path. How can you possibly even say Ciara is a better dancer than Janet Jackson? :mello: Especially in Janet's prime? :mello:

That's like saying Chris Brown, Usher, or even Justin Bieber is a better dancer than Michael Jackson. He pioneered what they are doing...and especially in his prime, did it better than ANY of them ever could.

It's just silly at best.


Anyway, back to the point of the is thread. lol Thanks again to those that watched the videos. My favorite is obviously the Mike and Janet video (for obvious reasons, lol) Though is says "vs" it's not really pitting them against each other per se, it's just an excuse to do a video with both of them in it. lol

Michael and Janet are my two favorite artists EVER!! :wub:

n im sorry we hijacked your thread but thanks for the videos
 
i think tht beyonce has had more success than janet n has reaced a wider audience than janet but its not based off music alone either. beyonce is one of the pioneers in artist branding themselves outside of music(IMO). i dnt think thts bad either. but bottom line she has more reach than janet does. but i hate it when people compare her to mike cause she just isnt on tht level. im srry. shes not even on madonnas level if you ask me. but she is good at what she does n will have her place.
 
Michael's fans are not trying to credit Michael with Janet's success; AND, yes WE are rightly UPSET with Janet's statement about Michael being in "denial". The fact is she would never have said this if Michael were still alive. Why say if after he was MURDERED? It's not as if he died of a self-induced "overdose". BTW, Janet NEVER ever acknowledged her husband's Rene's drug addiction. Rene was a certified DRUG ADDICT and Janet refused to even speak of it. She did the same with her other husband, James Debarge who was another REAL drug addict. The question that Janet fans need to ask is WHY would she do her beloved brother like that and basically call him an "addict" when he was MURDERED and there is NO PROOF that he was addicted to 'drugs' at the time of his murder. There is no excuse for what she did; especially, since the MURDERER is still walking free and his defense will use HER words in the trial. Ask yourselves, if things were reversed, would you JJ fans be angry IF Michael had said such a thing about Janet? Be honest and think about it.

You got proof that Janet never talked about James and Rene being drug addicts? Because I have proof that states otherwise. Please don't make me make you look fool in this thread.

I still find it funny to this day how fans think they know more about Michael than Janet. It's quite hilarious imo. :lol:
 
I've never seen the comparisions of Janet and Beyonce.Beyonce is more like Michael than she is Janet. I compare Britney Spears to Janet. Their dancing, voices are similiar. Beyonce's stage presence, vocals, dancing,etc. compare more to Michael than Janet. According to Beyonce's OWN WORDS, there would be no Beyonce without MICHAEL JACKSON. Beyonce has ALWAYS said that her career is based on Michael's INFLUENCE and what he did in his career. She has always made that perfectly clear.

Beyonce has stated that Janet is among one of her biggest influences. She has been stating this from the days of Destiny's Child. And I'd like to see proof that if there were no Michael there would be no Beyonce. I don't ever recall Beyonce saying anything like that, so I'd like proof.

Britney and Janet aren't not similar in singing nor dancing, btw.
 
i understand that you dont like janet because of what she said about mike but she has class and family loyalty also.

So let's agree that we both have VERY DIFFERENT definitions of class & family loyalty.
 
yea its like they really need to move on. same thing with what latoya n jermaone said abt 20 yrs ago. im like: you do know they made up since then???? n how can you have so much hate for someone you dnt know n never met. if mike forgave them, that is all that matters. cause im sure aint none of them losing sleep over there opinions lol. n mj said burn all the tabloids, not just when they are talking about me. its funny how most of the so-called dirt they have on the family came from the same trash that bash mike. you cant pick n choose when its credible because you want to belive it. either it all has some truth or it doesnt

We're not just mad over something said years ago. We're mad over something said in the past AND in the very present.

Besides, most info about the Jacksons does NOT come from tabloids. All my info comes from reliable sources. But since you're at it; the Jacksons (with the exception of MJ and Janet) aren't important enough to have tablois inventing stories about them.

The blind mouse continues its fantastic adventure of delusion, blind eye, denial and ignorance. Go on!
 
In my opinion, Beyonce is more versatile. She picked up the "baton" and took it to another level.

At this point Janet is stuck in neutral, she needs to do some spring cleaning and stop with the walking from one side of the stage to the other, while pointing her finger. And I'm not sure "tying down" a man from the audience is the answer. Been there, Done that!

And let me add this, in my opinion, Beyonce is WAY more respected in the business than Janet is. Beyonce handles herself with way more decorum during interviews. I mean, I don't believe we will EVER hear Beyonce discussing her father's love-child in public or any other FAMILY business for that matter. And folks that interview Beyonce know what time it is and know better to even bring it up. LOL!

Janet on the other hand will discuss her brother and the so-called "interventions," if the interview is high-profile enough, in my opinion.

DISCLAIMER: To MY knowledge Beyonce has never discussed her father's "supposed" love child nor the relationship between her parents nor the break-up of her sister's marriage in public.
 
You got proof that Janet never talked about James and Rene being drug addicts? Because I have proof that states otherwise. Please don't make me make you look fool in this thread.

I still find it funny to this day how fans think they know more about Michael than Janet. It's quite hilarious imo. :lol:

I would like to see your proof that Janet discussed Rene's drug addiction during a nationwide TV interview. Everytime that she was asked, she didn't want to discuss him or why they divorced. Now, I don't know what she has done in the YEARS since they divorced;, however, I don't remember seeing or hearing her discussing Rene's DRUG use on a televised interview. Hell, she didn't even discuss James' drug use for YEARS after they broke up. The bottomline is that her brother, Michael was MURDERED, he didn't overdose on drugs. For her to imply that he was an "addict" in denial was INEXCUSABLE. If he was so in denial, why didn't she bring this up while he was STILL ALIVE? She invaded his privacy AFTER he died. Michael valued his privacy, just as Janet does. Is it her duty or business to say what she did AFTER he was MURDERED. Again, I am tired of the EXCUSES that you Janet fans are always giving for what she said. There are NO excuses, and you know it as well as I do. Btw, I serioulsy believe that the fans know about Michael than his own sister. WE knew about his sleeping disorder and she seems clueless about that. IF she had any knowledge, then maybe she wouldn't have implied or acted as if he was taking some type of illicit drugs as her ex-husbands-Rene and James- did. I have NEVER her mention that Rene was "in denial" about his HEROIN use.
 
Beyonce has stated that Janet is among one of her biggest influences. She has been stating this from the days of Destiny's Child. And I'd like to see proof that if there were no Michael there would be no Beyonce. I don't ever recall Beyonce saying anything like that, so I'd like proof.

Britney and Janet aren't not similar in singing nor dancing, btw.

All you have to do is to look up basically any Beyonce interview and she has stated that Michael is the BIGGEST influence in her career. She has also stated MANY times that if there was no Michael, she doesn't think that she would have wanted to do what she is doing now. In fact, on one of the forums, someone posted her saying just that in a LIVE interview.Btw, I am sure that Beyonce has mentioned Janet as an influence;however, I have NEVER seen, or heard her say that. I HAVE heard her MANY,many,many times mention Michael as her GREATEST influence and she has PROCLAIMED that in EVERY interview-print and audio.

Finally, I would compare Janet more to Britney Spears in the singing AND dancing department than I would compare Janet to Beyonce. Janet's voice is better than Britney's; however, I compare the lack of substance in their voices. Beyonce is in another league vocally.
 
In my opinion, Beyonce is more versatile. She picked up the "baton" and took it to another level.

At this point Janet is stuck in neutral, she needs to do some spring cleaning and stop with the walking from one side of the stage to the other, while pointing her finger. And I'm not sure "tying down" a man from the audience is the answer. Been there, Done that!

And let me add this, in my opinion, Beyonce is WAY more respected in the business than Janet is. Beyonce handles herself with way more decorum during interviews. I mean, I don't believe we will EVER hear Beyonce discussing her father's love-child in public or any other FAMILY business for that matter. And folks that interview Beyonce know what time it is and know better to even bring it up. LOL!

Janet on the other hand will discuss her brother and the so-called "interventions," if the interview is high-profile enough, in my opinion.

DISCLAIMER: To MY knowledge Beyonce has never discussed her father's "supposed" love child nor the relationship between her parents nor the break-up of her sister's marriage in public.

Janet isnt in her 20s n 30s anymore so her best days of performance are behind her. NOt that she can't put on a good show cause she can but I don't see too much changing. While Janet has discussed private matters recently she didn't use to before and in her last batch of interviews she didn't either.
 
In my opinion, Beyonce is more versatile. She picked up the "baton" and took it to another level.

At this point Janet is stuck in neutral, she needs to do some spring cleaning and stop with the walking from one side of the stage to the other, while pointing her finger. And I'm not sure "tying down" a man from the audience is the answer. Been there, Done that!

And let me add this, in my opinion, Beyonce is WAY more respected in the business than Janet is. Beyonce handles herself with way more decorum during interviews. I mean, I don't believe we will EVER hear Beyonce discussing her father's love-child in public or any other FAMILY business for that matter. And folks that interview Beyonce know what time it is and know better to even bring it up. LOL!

Janet on the other hand will discuss her brother and the so-called "interventions," if the interview is high-profile enough, in my opinion.

DISCLAIMER: To MY knowledge Beyonce has never discussed her father's "supposed" love child nor the relationship between her parents nor the break-up of her sister's marriage in public.

Thank You! Beyonce is PURE CLASS. Interviewers KNOW not go into Bey's private life or ANYTHING about her family. I RESPECT her tremendously for that. Janet USED to be like that. She never wanted to discuss Michael-good or bad- at all. Damn, NOW that he was MURDERED, she wants to go on world-wide TV and imply that he was an "addict" in "denai". How $%#$-up is that? If I hadn't seen and heard it with my own eyes and ears, I would never have believed that she would turn on her own brother and do that. Again, there are NO EXCUSES for what she did. Btw, I am totally pissed at other family members who have done the same thing since Michael was MURDERED. They have shown zero guts and have allowed people like Rachel Roberts and Oprah to say ANYTHING about Michael. These people would never do that to Beyonce. She would go ballistic on them. People will do what you ALLOW them to do. You can bet that they would never do me like that.
 
Janet isnt in her 20s n 30s anymore so her best days of performance are behind her. NOt that she can't put on a good show cause she can but I don't see too much changing. While Janet has discussed private matters recently she didn't use to before and in her last batch of interviews she didn't either.

The only reason that Janet has changed her tune in discussing things about Michael is because she has seen the BACKLASH of Michael fans. Strangely, she refused to discuss Michael or even allow the radio DJ's to mention his name when she did an interview for my city. This was days after he was MURDERED. The DJ's seemed upset because they said all they wanted was to offer their condolences and she wouldn't even allow that. However, a day or so later, she did the Rachel Roberts interview and allowed Rachel to ask her ANYTHING about Michael and carefully said that Michael was "in denial". Of course, this was promotion for her GH album, movie and on WORLDWIDE TV.
 
We're not just mad over something said years ago. We're mad over something said in the past AND in the very present.

Besides, most info about the Jacksons does NOT come from tabloids. All my info comes from reliable sources. But since you're at it; the Jacksons (with the exception of MJ and Janet) aren't important enough to have tablois inventing stories about them.

The blind mouse continues its fantastic adventure of delusion, blind eye, denial and ignorance. Go on!

If I'm blind then you are too because all of the articles that contain this so-called incriminating evidence either doesn't come from a credible source or doesn't go with what is being said. I agree that the tabloids really don't care about them though.... I've never said the family was saints but I don't think they are demons either. N I will even say that 98% of what I say is speculation, I don't have any real proof to back it up. N the same goes for you
 
So let's agree that we both have VERY DIFFERENT definitions of class & family loyalty.

I have come to see that we disagree on lots of things so we can at least respect each others opinions
 
Janet isnt in her 20s n 30s anymore so her best days of performance are behind her. NOt that she can't put on a good show cause she can but I don't see too much changing. While Janet has discussed private matters recently she didn't use to before and in her last batch of interviews she didn't either.
I don't agree that just because a PERSON (not just Ms. Jackson) isn't in their 20's or 30's anymore their BEST performance days are behind them. In my opinion, that's nonsense!

As far as Janet discussing private matters in public, she was quick to throw her brother under the bus for Robyn Roberts and Oprah, but wasn't as forthcoming when folks were asking her about her break-up with Jermaine Dupree. She KNEW how to tick-a-lock regarding the break-up.

When asked about her breakup, her response would be something like: "Oh I still love him to bits," or something to that effect, but with her DEAR BROTHER she was willing to discuss the whole kit & kaboddle. She ain't slick!
 
look her brother died weather just becuse you don't like opinion doesn't mean she didn't have the right to dissucces his death I am, sure even Beyonce would say something if her sister died . Did you really think Janet was never ever going to be asked about Michael's death? and if she siad no I am not talking about Michael's death and never adressed it , some of the very same people would be the same ones quick to say , oh she doesn't care , she's a shame of Michael and etc.
 
look her brother died weather just becuse you don't like opinion doesn't mean she didn't have the right to dissucces his death I am, sure even Beyonce would say something if her sister died . Did you really think Janet was never ever going to be asked about Michael's death? and if she siad no I am not talking about Michael's death and never adressed it , some of the very same people would be the same ones quick to say , oh she doesn't care , she's a shame of Michael and etc.

she could've discussed it but don't throw her dead brother under the bus like she did. Her brother was killed. He didn't die of painkiller pills abuse like she said. She could've discussed her brother and talked nicely about him, but she refused to do that too. Since MJ's death I haven't heard one positive word from her about him and it's sad. Nothing about the good person he was, his charitable efforts and his helping the family when she didn't. Nothing good about MJ at all from her. She's been more concerned with her acting career, her new man and her happiness. She has made a point of saying how delighted and happy she is, even though her brother is dead, murdered by his physician and her niece and nephews are orphaned. Why is she so happy? Justice hasn't been served yet in her brother's death, why the happiness and constant giggling? To me Janet is acting very selfish and for me it has turned me against her altogether. Believe it or not I used to be a fan of hers.
 
look her brother died weather just becuse you don't like opinion doesn't mean she didn't have the right to dissucces his death I am, sure even Beyonce would say something if her sister died . Did you really think Janet was never ever going to be asked about Michael's death? and if she siad no I am not talking about Michael's death and never adressed it , some of the very same people would be the same ones quick to say , oh she doesn't care , she's a shame of Michael and etc.
It's not about the questioning after Michael's death, it's the WAY she answered the questions after Michael's death.

As I said previously, when she was asked about her break-up with Jermaine, she answered, but she answered very carefully, not giving up any information, WHY couldn't she afford her brother the same respect?

Aside from the fact that since there is a criminal trial coming up, she SHOULD have said: "I'm not in a position to answer any of those questions right now."

Speaking about the love she had for her brother and things along those lines is fine. I would expect her to share little stories about her brother. I would NOT have expected her to start taking about "interventions," without being clear nor would I have expected her to talk about her brother being in "denial."

The "interventions" and being in "denial," was that during the same time she was BEGGING Michael to join her and the brothers for the Jackson Family Concert? She forgot to mention that it would appear!
 
Believe it or not I used to be a fan of hers.
I was never a huge Janet Jackson fan, but after that whole Super Bowl thing, I was so mad (LOL) at how she was treated, I decided to be more supportive regarding any of her projects.

I was STILL on board when her "Number Ones" came out, but she totally LOST that support when she did that interview with Robin Roberts. I was very disappointed that a seasoned vet like Janet Jackson would go on television and throw her brother under the bus.

She could have handled that interview and the one she did with Oprah way better than she did, in my opinion. I was, and still am, VERY disappointed!
 
In my opinion, Beyonce is more versatile. She picked up the "baton" and took it to another level.

At this point Janet is stuck in neutral, she needs to do some spring cleaning and stop with the walking from one side of the stage to the other, while pointing her finger. And I'm not sure "tying down" a man from the audience is the answer. Been there, Done that!

And let me add this, in my opinion, Beyonce is WAY more respected in the business than Janet is. Beyonce handles herself with way more decorum during interviews. I mean, I don't believe we will EVER hear Beyonce discussing her father's love-child in public or any other FAMILY business for that matter. And folks that interview Beyonce know what time it is and know better to even bring it up. LOL!

Janet on the other hand will discuss her brother and the so-called "interventions," if the interview is high-profile enough, in my opinion.

DISCLAIMER: To MY knowledge Beyonce has never discussed her father's "supposed" love child nor the relationship between her parents nor the break-up of her sister's marriage in public.

The amount of hypocrisy in this post is VERY unsettling.
 
she could've discussed it but don't throw her dead brother under the bus like she did. Her brother was killed. He didn't die of painkiller pills abuse like she said. She could've discussed her brother and talked nicely about him, but she refused to do that too. Since MJ's death I haven't heard one positive word from her about him and it's sad. Nothing about the good person he was, his charitable efforts and his helping the family when she didn't. Nothing good about MJ at all from her. She's been more concerned with her acting career, her new man and her happiness. She has made a point of saying how delighted and happy she is, even though her brother is dead, murdered by his physician and her niece and nephews are orphaned. Why is she so happy? Justice hasn't been served yet in her brother's death, why the happiness and constant giggling? To me Janet is acting very selfish and for me it has turned me against her altogether. Believe it or not I used to be a fan of hers.

You're making up stuff. Janet even said that she blamed muarry for mjs death cause she said he administered it. She never said anything about pills. N she didn't throw him under the bus. N she has talked nicely about mike more than she said something about drugs. N stop saying pp&b are orphans cause THEY ARE NOT. N yes she is suppose to be happy right now. SHe can't do anything about the situation but pray and hope justice will prevail
 
How so?

When you get a chance, break it down for me and we can discuss it further.

You and I both know Beyonce is not more of a versatile dancer than Janet. I know it's your opinion, but you're just plain hating and you know it. And the fact that you just said above that Janet lost your support after the interview proves it. You don't think Mike had a problem. Janet thinks he had a problem. That's her opinion. Perhaps she should log on here and attack you all like you do her. The difference, Janet was there, you weren't. She knows more than you, and always will. Get over it.

:lol: @ Janet being stuck in neutral. The same thing could be said about any artist who is past their prime. I wont even address how Michael has been doing the same pop-and-lock routines since Thriller. But you obviously have no been paying attention. Her routines as of late have been quite different, if you haven't noticed.

And the rest of that post is just you hating and being team Beyonce just to be anti-Janet. Beyonce is not more respected than Janet, and you know this. I don't care about our opinion. The facts speak for themselves. Beyonce HAS addressed her father's illegitimate child. She has also addressed the break up of Destiny's Child. Understand something, both Janet and Mike have discussed this, when you are a celebrity, your life is viewed by the public eye 24/7. Nothing is personal when you're as high profile. Your life becomes magnified and whatever you do will be in the news at some point, and you will have no choice but to discuss it if it's brought up.

It's funny, and VERY hypocritical, to see some Mike fans talking about what has happened in the media and taking 90% of what they're told as fact, when the man himself spoke out against that in songs like "Tabloid Junkie". Guess Mike didn't teach his fans anything after all.
 
I don't agree that just because a PERSON (not just Ms. Jackson) isn't in their 20's or 30's anymore their BEST performance days are behind them. In my opinion, that's nonsense!

As far as Janet discussing private matters in public, she was quick to throw her brother under the bus for Robyn Roberts and Oprah, but wasn't as forthcoming when folks were asking her about her break-up with Jermaine Dupree. She KNEW how to tick-a-lock regarding the break-up.

When asked about her breakup, her response would be something like: "Oh I still love him to bits," or something to that effect, but with her DEAR BROTHER she was willing to discuss the whole kit & kaboddle. She ain't slick!

It's not about creativity, well not what I'm talking about anyway. After you reach a certain age your body doesn't give it like it used to. NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE!!!! It's just apart of life. N she does more than walk and point her finger, that's just one of the things she does. N people don't know why her n jermaine broke up, if they did she would probably address it once. But people know part of the reason mj died so its different. IF he died in a car wreck then she wouldn't have had to address that issue
 
You and I both know Beyonce is not more of a versatile dancer than Janet. I know it's your opinion, but you're just plain hating and you know it. And the fact that you just said above that Janet lost your support after the interview proves it. You don't think Mike had a problem. Janet thinks he had a problem. That's her opinion. Perhaps she should log on here and attack you all like you do her. The difference, Janet was there, you weren't. She knows more than you, and always will. Get over it.

:lol: @ Janet being stuck in neutral. The same thing could be said about any artist who is past their prime. I wont even address how Michael has been doing the same pop-and-lock routines since Thriller. But you obviously have no been paying attention. Her routines as of late have been quite different, if you haven't noticed.

And the rest of that post is just you hating and being team Beyonce just to be anti-Janet. Beyonce is not more respected than Janet, and you know this. I don't care about our opinion. The facts speak for themselves. Beyonce HAS addressed her father's illegitimate child. She has also addressed the break up of Destiny's Child. Understand something, both Janet and Mike have discussed this, when you are a celebrity, your life is viewed by the public eye 24/7. Nothing is personal when you're as high profile. Your life becomes magnified and whatever you do will be in the news at some point, and you will have no choice but to discuss it if it's brought up.

It's funny, and VERY hypocritical, to see some Mike fans talking about what has happened in the media and taking 90% of what they're told as fact, when the man himself spoke out against that in songs like "Tabloid Junkie". Guess Mike didn't teach his fans anything after all.

That's what I don't get about so many of them and their so called facts. When mj said burn the tabloids he meant HE MEANT BURN THEM ALL not just when they talking about him. If they lied on mike all of these years what makes them think everything said about them will be true
 
The only reason that Janet has changed her tune in discussing things about Michael is because she has seen the BACKLASH of Michael fans. .

Do you think she has heard of the backlash for real? Well if that's the case I hope she does because she has lost a fan in me forever. If the family wanted to 'save' MJ they should've went public with their intent to help him with his issues. Don't wait until he dies to say he had a problem and you tried to 'intervene'. You do it while they are still here. And I would like to know what exactly they did for this intervention? Did they hire professionals like Dr Drew? because the Jackson family members are not skilled in handling drug interventions. What type of knowledge or skills do they have in that?

And if they were worried about embarrassing MJ, so what.. MJ had been embarrassed with lies and false allegations for 20 years, having his family come forward saying they want to help him with his pain killer addictions would not have hurt him anymore than the false allegations.
 
That's what I don't get about so many of them and their so called facts. When mj said burn the tabloids he meant HE MEANT BURN THEM ALL not just when they talking about him. If they lied on mike all of these years what makes them think everything said about them will be true

Tabloids have nothing to do with what Janet said on TELEVISED interview. The entire world heard her say that Michael was in "denial" and that the family had tried "interventions". Why was this so-called revelation anyone's business. Why was it HER business to release this about her MURDERED brother. Doesn't he deserve the SAME respect that you fans would want her to receive if she had been murdered or had passed away. Stop with the hypocrisy! We MJ fans are asking nothing that you JJ fans wouldn't ask in the same situation. It's sickening you try to justify what Janet said just because she's Janet. She gets no pass from me. She knew better and she did it intentionally. As Stacy J stated, I have YET to hear Janet say one POSITIVE word about Michael since he was MURDERED.
 
That's what I don't get about so many of them and their so called facts. When mj said burn the tabloids he meant HE MEANT BURN THEM ALL not just when they talking about him. If they lied on mike all of these years what makes them think everything said about them will be true

Exactly. And they're taking everything they're told as fact. None of these silly fans know ANYTHING about what went on with Mike. So ANY of them trying to say they know more than ANY member of Mike's immediately family has ZERO ground.

These are the same ppl that think the autopsy report that was released is indeed official and un-doctored. That autopsy was painted in a good light in lieu of his untimely death. If I'm not mistaken, by law it is illegal to publicly publish such reports as autopsies without the family's consent. I will never believe that autopsy is 100% authentic.
 
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