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I WAS RIGHT - Jackson Brothers and A&E at the "AfterParty"

Oceangirl said:
for those who say Randy cared the most about MJ , you need a reality check guys , you probably did not hear what Randy did during the trial, he was MJ's manager at the time , he hired his own lawyers own accountants , they failed to pay neverland employees, failed to pay all the expenses at neverland , failed to pay anyone , when people started suing mj for unpaid bills and unpaid wages , he sued his lawyers and accountants , Randy wrote a two letter in support of them and presented it to court , because he was the one who hired them and they obviously were sharing the money with . Mj was suddenly facing his own brother . Not only that Randy started spreading rumours about mj running a $ 700.000 bill on his credit card .

Randy signed a deal on behalf of mj's at the time to refinance the Sony/ATV loan and when mj knew about it he tried to stop it but it was too late he was sued and it cost him tens of millions .
during that trial which mj settled eventually because he was facing no one but his brother , he gave an affidavit where he talked about Randy and his friend trying to force him to sell the Sony/ATV during the trial , he said Billionaire Ron Burkle was calling him during breaks and warning him not to sign any paper , and when mj refused to sign the papers Randy "wanted his head" .

when the affidavit was leaked to the press , MJ said he loved his brother and did not accuse him of lying or stealing but it was too late mj said that under oath and everything was documented . the judge overseeing mj's estate is probably aware of that affidavit and that's why he did not allow Randy to testify at the AEG hearing . and I'm more than sure Branca is more than capable of playing dirty games when the JERKSONS keep using their blackmailing tactics .
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As I recall the Neverland employees weren't getting paid after the trial - MJ had left. I would have to double check for sure.

As far as Burkle, I want to know more about his involvement. Seems wierd to me, also Malnik.

Branca IMO is a total jerk - as I recall there was testimony about him & a conflict of interest with Sony by LeGrand in the 2005 trial. His lawyer is Weitzman who was MJ lawyer along with Cochran in 93 who pushed for the settlement which we all know was a huge mistake. Cochran was brought in to convince MJ to settle & to help with the DA, Gil Garcetti. I believe it was reported that LAPD was investigating extortion charges on the Chandlers & MJ for the child molestation charges at the same time. After the pics did not match the description, (it was leaked to USA Today by LAPD which is one thing Halperin did get correct in his book) the settlement was announced. I think Branca was behind that strategy. He is also probably afraid of someone doing some forensic accounting.

Weitzman along with Bert Fields used Pellicano. Pellicano is now in jail for weapons possession & illegal wiretapping. Weitzman & Fields had to have known that he was wiretapping illegally. He was a PI famous for solving problems, according to Barresi he would create problems sometimes for hollywood celebs & then 'solve' them & get paid. I would wonder if there wasn't a connection between Pellicano & the Chandlers. Fields & Pellicano were let go. We will probably never know as Pellicano is now behind bars, his wife was on TV saying she would write a tell all book in interviews with DD during the trial - that never happened as I am sure she was paid off - Pellicano arranged it IMO. DD did 2 interviews with Barresi (famous porn star & PI who worked with Pellicano, also helped LeMarques sell tab story) on CTV, DD really thought she was going to get some big scoops because of all the illegal wiretapping- I think looking back that Barresi was there to make sure DD did not get close to too much info.
 
they talked about a reunion tour?
oh my. Not that I'm surprised..hey, J5 are nothing without Michael! jermaine's gonna be the lead singer then? well GOOD LUCK hitting the high notes.
cringe.
 
Wow... I dont understand why we would need to see this or why the Jackson brothers feel the need to show us this.. I for one dont need to see this after party event...
 
I am going to reserve judgement on this. It's not an "after party" either. This happens with alot of funerals and it's not a party.
 
Slowly everyone will be showing his/ her true colours. The truth will be revealed and we will see for real what were people like around Michael. I just cannot imagine what was like to live in such "environment" for years. God bless his children and Katherine, the only people that gave him joy.
 
sorry that i ask this now, but what exactly is A&E??
im wondering since i first heard about it.. =/
 
mjjmsc said:
I don't know how you can eat after a funeral...but whatever...
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That isn't anything unusual. Every funeral I've seen, people eat afterwards. Why do people have to twist everything into something horrible?
 
Kizmic said:
That isn't anything unusual. Every funeral I've seen, people eat afterwards. Why do people have to twist everything into something horrible?
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i know that's a tradition,don't get me wrong...but could you eat?I wouldn't be able, the tears would stop me...
 
i've read all the posts here and have mixed feelings.
about the 'afterparty' - i agree it's a bad name for that, but it's also a cultural thing
i had this 'afterparty' after my grandma's death and it was all right it was a part of celebration, when everybody's seating talking about the person, bring in memories, stories, etc.

about the jacksons - i also think they are not just a kind of 'monolithic entity'
and i had this impression janet for example was a bit out of the way and somebody said 'upset' at the funeral
but then i had mixed feelings after this 'speak up honey' at the memorial
still i trust her most and katherine.

i was watching bbc footage from the funeral and i remember the reporter repeating that' we've seen more than we expected' and that was actually my feeling as well. if that is now to serve some commercial thing then it's not proper at all but we'll see
 
Diner after a funeral is always a tradition. Some people even sing and play music. Some just eat cake and small chat... Last funeral I was on we were invited for tea and food. I wasnt able to eat though.. I was nauseous from all the crying.. But yeah, after-parties or whatever you wanna call it is normal. Its just a way of celebrating the persons life.
 
Even if they filmed the funeral and "after-party" I dont think I would want to see it again on television or DVD.. It was just too sad to watching it from a distant helicopter view, I can't imagin what it would be like seeing it upclose ..
 
mjjmsc said:
i know that's a tradition,don't get me wrong...but could you eat?I wouldn't be able, the tears would stop me...
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Yes because I've had to go through several funerals. At the wake, cried. During the burial, crying and crying and I don't like to cry in public. Afterwards, family comes together, shares the good times, pictures and it's comforting. It's apart of moving on from the pain. I do get annoyed when people try to criticize the way people grieve and pretend that they are gurus and lump all people together as though everyone is supposed to be the same.

I know of someone who didn't cry over their parent dying until years later. It came across as bizarre to others but I knew the person well and even though people were dissing the person I told them, it hasn't hit yet. Watch in years it will and it did.

I am not about to sit here and think that I know MJ's family well. From a distance yes some look like opportunists however from a distance I can see the care form Katherine, the children, Joe, Latoya and Janet the most.

I have no idea what it is like to be in a celebrity family and I don't think I'd ever want to know.

I do however know what it's like to be in a big family where you can't even trust some of your own family.

I'm not watching the reality show. If anyone has moral objections to this reality show, you have the power. Don't watch.

A&E scrapped it because they thought nobody would watch it because Michael was not in it. I would have watched but now that they are seeming to maybe put in footage of the burial and grieving I don't like it so now I'm not going to watch.

We aren't helpless slaves to the media are we? The power is yours.


Here is a small article about the reality show for those who don't know about it

http://www.pbpulse.com/tv/reality-tv/2009/08/25/a-michael-less-jackson-reality-show-on-ae/
 
Im just so over the jacksons and the constant need to make money

not even gonna lie, I worry about the welfare of those kids all the time, yknow, mentally what is being done to them

meh... If I never heard about jacksons again, it's pretty clear now they are just michaels family, nobody really cares what they are doing and ratings will confirm that.
 
jrsfan said:
As I recall the Neverland employees weren't getting paid after the trial - MJ had left. I would have to double check for sure.

As far as Burkle, I want to know more about his involvement. Seems wierd to me, also Malnik.

Branca IMO is a total jerk - as I recall there was testimony about him & a conflict of interest with Sony by LeGrand in the 2005 trial. His lawyer is Weitzman who was MJ lawyer along with Cochran in 93 who pushed for the settlement which we all know was a huge mistake. Cochran was brought in to convince MJ to settle & to help with the DA, Gil Garcetti. I believe it was reported that LAPD was investigating extortion charges on the Chandlers & MJ for the child molestation charges at the same time. After the pics did not match the description, (it was leaked to USA Today by LAPD which is one thing Halperin did get correct in his book) the settlement was announced. I think Branca was behind that strategy. He is also probably afraid of someone doing some forensic accounting.

Weitzman along with Bert Fields used Pellicano. Pellicano is now in jail for weapons possession & illegal wiretapping. Weitzman & Fields had to have known that he was wiretapping illegally. He was a PI famous for solving problems, according to Barresi he would create problems sometimes for hollywood celebs & then 'solve' them & get paid. I would wonder if there wasn't a connection between Pellicano & the Chandlers. Fields & Pellicano were let go. We will probably never know as Pellicano is now behind bars, his wife was on TV saying she would write a tell all book in interviews with DD during the trial - that never happened as I am sure she was paid off - Pellicano arranged it IMO. DD did 2 interviews with Barresi (famous porn star & PI who worked with Pellicano, also helped LeMarques sell tab story) on CTV, DD really thought she was going to get some big scoops because of all the illegal wiretapping- I think looking back that Barresi was there to make sure DD did not get close to too much info.
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as you said it was Cochran who pushed for a settlement not Weizman . cochran was a very close friend of Feildman and represented him during his divorce battle , the case was settled in away that benefited everyone but MJ , at that time Branca was not MJ's lawyer , mj gave him the boot in 1991 . I posted LeGrande testimony on kop discussion board and I know exactly what was said .

Legrande was hired by Konietzer (whatever) to do investigation on Branca and other people who were managing mj's financial empire at the time , Kointer and Weizner wanted to kick everyone out and replace them . He ended up investigating everyone including koitzner,weizner and Schaffel ,also al Manlik .

he said he discovered that koitzner and weizner stole 965.000$ from mj , he also discovered that schaffel was working with them and a very shady character , he said he was afraid of al-manlik' involvement in mj's business at the beginning but as he investigated more he discovered that almanlik was a very wealthy man who CARED DEEPLY ABOUT MJ and was trying to help him really ,

as for his testimony regarding Branca, he said Branca was not employee for MJ , his company provide consulting on matters relating to legal issues in the showbiz , both MJ and SONY were clients he felt there was a conflict of interest , he hired a PI who discovered there was an offshore account connected to Branca where sony was deposing money into . He went and said that Branca's a very respectful attorney and although he discovered the offshore account that did not mean he was conspiring against mj or it had anything to do with mj , he said once Koitzner knew that he wanted to tell mj about the money they were stealing from him he was fired and could not verify anything regarding Branca . He also said that he believed MJ did stop working with Branca at that time . obviously koitzner and weizner succeeded in their mission .

by the way weizner is now working with jermaine on the tribute concert :smilerolleyes:, the family hired him , he gave a statement saying katie gave her blessing :mello:
 
I pledge not to watch one SECOND of any "Jacksons reality show." I know some feel supportive of Michael's family -- because they are his family. I don't. Some caused Michael a lot of grief, in life. I feel love for Michael's children, because they deserve it and were his joy in life, and I prettty much respect Katherine, because she lost a son. For the rest of 'em. . . whatever happens.. .. . fine. I just think that if they want jobs/careers, they should do it using their OWN names and whatever talent they have, but leave Michael out of it. IMHO, not one of them, except Janet, has done anything noteworthy since they were The Jacksons. And that's it.

(I simply cannnot BELIEVE that Jermaine is trying to sell HIS verion of ""Cry" on I-Tunes. Well then, good LUCK.)
 
Doesn't surprise me if true. They've spent most their lives trying to make money off Michael's name after the Jackson 5. Michael's dead and their STILL using his name, and that won't stop.
 
Victoria83 said:
I pledge not to watch one SECOND of any "Jacksons reality show." I know some feel supportive of Michael's family -- because they are his family. I don't. Some caused Michael a lot of grief, in life. I feel love for Michael's children, because they deserve it and were his joy in life, and I prettty much respect Katherine, because she lost a son. For the rest of 'em. . . whatever happens.. .. . fine. I just think that if they want jobs/careers, they should do it using their OWN names and whatever talent they have, but leave Michael out of it. IMHO, not one of them, except Janet, has done anything noteworthy since they were The Jacksons. And that's it.

(I simply cannnot BELIEVE that Jermaine is trying to sell HIS verion of ""Cry" on I-Tunes. Well then, good LUCK.)
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WHAT?:mello::mello::mello::mello:

I know this isn't what we are supposed to be like and say on mjjc but...

Some brother! *rolls eyes*
Jeez.
 
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