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MJStorm said:
Janet Jackson, Britney Spears, Lady Gaga...

Nothing special or extraordinary.

I'm not a hater.

I would like to see Janet being successful again.

The problem is that she has been replaced by younger singers.

The fact that she betrayed her brother on TV did not help too. Many Michael's fans - like me - do not support Janet.
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Janet was my girl. (die hard as far as my female artist) MJ was the all time artist for me. But I will not support her because what looks like disloyalty. AAhh the end of an era for me.
 
ensleyave said:
Janet was my girl. (die hard as far as my female artist) MJ was the all time artist for me. But I will not support her because what looks like disloyalty. AAhh the end of an era for me.
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Again, what did she do?! Still so confused...:scratch:
 
ForeverKOP said:
Again, what did she do?! Still so confused...:scratch:
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I think what some of the posters in this thread are referring to is the interview that Janet had with Robin Roberts on ABC last fall. She said that there were some family attempts to have an "intervention" with Michael (related to prescription drug use). Some fans feel that Janet betrayed Michael by saying those things.
 
Well...I live in the States, and I feel there was a time when Janet's music was more relevant than Michael's in black R&B (90s and early 2000s). However, even like the best, people look for other styles, and if you are not creative enough, they will move on to the next young and talented stars like beyonce, alicia keys, and rihanna.

People DID talk about Janet Jackson alot, but she is older now, and her audience grew up!
 
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mnj1985 said:
I think what some of the posters in this thread are referring to is the interview that Janet had with Robin Roberts on ABC last fall. She said that there were some family attempts to have an "intervention" with Michael (related to prescription drug use). Some fans feel that Janet betrayed Michael by saying those things.
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What's wrong with that? I've heard people say in interviews similar things about Richard Pryor, Ozzy Osbourne, Elvis Presley, Marvin Gaye, and others. Pam Grier said that she got Richard clean when she was dating him in the mid 1970s, but when they broke up, he went back to using.
 
DuranDuran said:
What's wrong with that? I've heard people say in interviews similar things about Richard Pryor, Ozzy Osbourne, Elvis Presley, Marvin Gaye, and others. Pam Grier said that she got Richard clean when she was dating him in the mid 1970s, but when they broke up, he went back to using.
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I agree, what's wrong with that? If she said they planned an intervention, the probably did...After everything has been said and done, do people still think MJ didn't somewhat have a problem with drugs? :mello:
 
DuranDuran said:
What's wrong with that? I've heard people say in interviews similar things about Richard Pryor, Ozzy Osbourne, Elvis Presley, Marvin Gaye, and others. Pam Grier said that she got Richard clean when she was dating him in the mid 1970s, but when they broke up, he went back to using.
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I honestly don't know. I think they feel it would aid Murray's defense by promoting the claims that MJ was a drug addict, which I don't feel that it does, but to each his own. Anyway, I didn't really want to say anything because I don't want to derail this thread, but the questions about it weren't being answered.
 
mnj1985 said:
I honestly don't know. I think they feel it would aid Murray's defense by promoting the claims that MJ was a drug addict, which I don't feel that it does, but to each his own. Anyway, I didn't really want to say anything because I don't want to derail this thread, but the questions about it weren't being answered.
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Thanks for clearing it up. The reason for all this hate against her sounds a little ridiculous to me =/.
 
Some MJ fans REALLY need to get rid of this chip they have on their shoulder regarding Janet "betraying" Michael. Seriously!

The problem as to why she isn't "talked about" is honestly just because she let her popular slip. She had it in the palm of her hands between the Control- TVR I would even go as far as saying in the mid 90s she was rivalling Madonna. Another problem was the image. She pretty much used the same "sex" thing from the janet. album till now. People are over the "sex" thing. The Superbowl played a huge part in her decline but I think there's only so much you can blame on that now though. I remember it making headlines here in Oz but no one was "outraged" by it. if she comes back strong with her next album she might be able to reclaim some of the glory she had in the earlier years. Not to say Janet hasn't cemented her place in the industry as one of the most influential female pop icons of all time. 100 + million albums says it all. She wouldn't have lasted this long is she was just MJ's sister.

I like to be honest. Janet is my favourite female Artist I'm just not one of those fans that sugar coats the truth :)
 
There was a big discussion about it here in the forum.

Janet just called Michael drug addict despite not speaking to him for years.

She knew what the press would do with her comments.
 
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MJStorm said:
There was a big discussion about it here in the forum.

Janet just called Michael drug addict despite not speaking to him for years.

She knew what the press would do with her comments.
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Have a link to that thread?
 
Oh, she said something upsetting in that ABC interview.. I only ever watched short snippets of it and decided not to watch the entire thing. Such a coincidence the interview took place around the time her new album was released! :pleasantry:

Since I'm not going to watch it now either, can't say anything. Thanks for clearing that up anyway :)
 
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Janet just called Michael drug addict despite not speaking to him for years.

She knew what the press would do with her comments.
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That's exactly how I felt. Janet could have handled the "Michael" portion of her interview with Robin Roberts much better in my opinion.

Janet mentioned an "intervention," the only problem was that she did not specify WHEN said intervention took place. Was it in 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, or 2008?

In my opinion, it just wasn't appropriate to put that out there, without being VERY specific. Especially knowing that Murray's defense might very well use her words. Either during any upcoming trial, or just as a soundbite during or before any trial.

I think her talking about an "intervention," but not being specific as to the time period, is what got some of the fans upset, myself included.

I hope that explaination helps.
 
Janet at best is average nothing much about her in her younger years she was able to dance but now that she is middle aged I haven't seen much dancing of hers either. Janet was never iconic or a huge star overseas and some need to understand US is not the world. Ppl are finally getting she is not all that hence the lack of success in the past decade. Her heyday is long over and it's over for good.
 
Janet's great. Like her a lot. But statistically, there are literally dozens of artists who equal and even surpass her in record sales. We heard a lot about them all during their heyday, as we did Janet. We don't necessarily hear a lot about them now, unless they're really still out there, actively performing. I can't think of time when I wasn't hearing something about U2. They always seem to be in the forefront, if not as performers, humanitarians.

The Beatles, Elvis, and MJ are always referenced because of their impact and they're considered revolutionaries. Madonna may not be a revolutionary, but she definitely has been very influential and impactful on the industry.

With folks like Prince, Whitney, and Mariah...I don't think it's a matter of impact, it's more talent level. Prince is considered a genius. Whitney and Mariah are (or were) considered "exceptionally" gifted vocally. They're often used as a benchmark for new vocalist who can hit those high notes.

If Janet gets another hit, she'll be the talk of the industry again. Like Cher was. I can't remember the name of that song Cher did that had her all over the place again, but it totally brought her back to the forefront. But even then, she has never been put on the same tier as an MJ. Neither would Janet ever be, but that doesn't take away from her achievements.
 
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I think another thing about Janet, was her allowing Jermaine (her ex-boyfriend) to take such a strong hand in her career in the last couple of years.

Matching her up with rappers, trying to get radio play, was not a good look for Janet. Just because it worked for Mariah, didn't mean it would work for Janet. In my opinion, she gave Jermaine too much power as far as her musical DIRECTION went.
 
It's true that Janet was never a worldwide phenomenon like Michael or Madonna etc. Sure we got her songs (Together Again and All For You were well known) here in Ireland but she hasn't been huge here.
 
As a female singer, she gets overshadowed by Madonna.

As the sister of Michael Jackson, she gets overshadowed by his accomplishments.

I think Janet deserves more recognition from the critics but who cares about them anyway? We can clearly see Jan's influence on the younger generation but her impact is just not as memorable as Mike and Madge
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yeah good points
 
gerryevans said:
Janet's great. Like her a lot. But statistically, there are literally dozens of artists who equal and even surpass her in record sales. We heard a lot about them all during their heyday, as we did Janet. We don't necessarily hear a lot about them now, unless they're really still out there, actively performing. I can't think of time when I wasn't hear something about U2. They always seemed to be in the forefront, if not as performers, humanitarians.

The Beatles, Elvis, and MJ are always referenced because of their impact and they're considered revolutionaries. Madonna may not be a revolutionary, but she definitely has been very influential and impactful on the industry.

With folks like Prince, Whitney, and Mariah...I don't think it's a matter of impact, it's more talent level. Prince is considered a genius. Whitney and Mariah are (or were) considered "exceptionally" gifted vocally. They're often used as a benchmark for new vocalist who can hit those high notes.

If Janet gets another hit, she'll be the talk of the industry again. Like Cher was. I can't remember the name of that song Cher did that had her all over the place again, but it totally brought her back to the forefront. But even then, she has never been put on the same tier as an MJ. Neither would Janet ever be, but that doesn't take away from her achievements.
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Believe was the name of that song
 
Isn't jermaine dupri producing the new song for why did get married two and working on her new album with rodney jerkins or she going back to jimmy jame and terry?
 
now im not really a Janet Fan but from what i feel to me the truth is with time she FELL OFF like any other artist will ..her peek was mid/late 80's early till about late 90's her last few albums weren't all dat and i have a feeling she was trying to hard to cross over more to a hip-hop audience.. "NOW AM I WRONG?" S/N She's Been Replaced by Beyonce and other young artist
 
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billyworld99 said:
Isn't jermaine dupri producing the new song for why did get married two and working on her new album with rodney jerkins or she going back to jimmy jame and terry?
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I don't know who she is working with presently, but it is true that Jermaine Dupri worked on the new song from the movie. Like I said before, he might work well with Mariah, but that does not translate when he is working with Janet, in my opinion.

I personally think she did better when she worked with Jam & Lewis. Yo, if it ain't broke, don't fix it! To date, Jermaine Dupri has done nothing positive for Janet's music career.
 
^^ Thats Kind of unfair seeing as Janet was more successful than Michael in the 90's (sales wise) she was the second best selling artist of that decade, and she only released 3 albums !!
 
babykinsilk05 said:
The way they do Michael, Madonna, or Prince? I mean they all BLEW UP around the same time. In other words, you know how when ever there's a general music special on tv where all these great artist from the past, and present are being talked about and their accomplishments, influence, artistry, innovation, ect are being talked up, I notice that people almost never talk about or even mention JJ. I know she get's respect for longevity and I know she's been named by the ciara's and rihanna's of the music world as one of many major influences... but is that all. How come people (music experts, rock historians, industry insiders, other artist and the like) don't hype her up like they do others???
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now i am a young buck.."onli 20yr young but if i can recall right im almost positive that all i heard in da 90's till earli 2000"s growning up was JANET JANET JANET ..... and mtv giving her an icon award or something .. now comparing her to Michael, Madonna, or Prince.... Personally i don't think is fare ..but also How much in this new decade started have weve talked about Prince ..also Madonna..not dat much beside her going on tour and Michael Jackson.i love him but all i heard pll sayin about him was a bunch of S### before he died We ALL KNEW HE WAS THE KING BUT WE WERE REALLI GIVING CREDIT EITHER "NOT WE as in fans but as ppl in general" idk about other countries but in America i realli didnt hear ppl talking about any of them..new millennium
 
raz2911 said:
^^ Thats Kind of unfair seeing as Janet was more successful than Michael in the 90's she was the second best selling artist of that decade, and she only released 3 albums !!
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In which country? Michael sold at least 100 million records in the 1990s dont forget that Dangerous that album alone sold more than 30mil worldwide was a 90s record with hits like Black or White, HIStory too sold extremely well overseas around 18/20 mill with big songs like Earth Song/YANA and the remix album Blood on the Dancefloor was at some point the biggest selling remix album. Michael also had the 2 top grossing worldtours of the 90s and had to battle unless Janet achieved the same (which she did not) nor did she have to face what he did the comparison is beyond ludicrous Oh and by the way Michael only had 2 album releases thruout the 90s. Given the impact 1993 had on Michael and his reputation it's a miracle and a prove that he was still able to do all that and achieve this much. Janet has pretty much been a single country star from the beginning with occasional hits in other countries in the 90s and I guess u can even say early 2001 (all 4 u), the only thing that made her standout from other one country stars was the fact that she was in some way associated to Michael. Don't all of JAnet's sale 1982 onwards equal 100 million? lol face it even Britney Spears sold more than she did, in merely 10 years, she will leave a bigger legacy
 
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In which country? Michael sold at least 100 million records in the 1990s dont forget that Dangerous that album alone sold more than 30mil worldwide was a 90s record with hits like Black or White, HIStory too sold extremely well overseas around 18/20 mill with big songs like Earth Song/YANA and the remix album Blood on the Dancefloor was at some point the biggest selling remix album. Michael also had the 2 top grossing worldtours of the 90s and had to battle unless Janet achieved the same (which she did not) nor did she have to face what he did the comparison is beyond ludicrous Oh and by the way Michael only had 2 album releases thruout the 90s. Given the impact 1993 had on Michael and his reputation it's a miracle and a prove that he was still able to do all that and achieve this much. Janet has pretty much been a single country star from the beginning with occasional hits in other countries in the 90s and I guess u can even say early 2001 (all 4 u), the only thing that made her standout from other one country stars was the fact that she was in some way associated to Michael.
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Well thats what I've heard, but know that you mention it you are probably right but theres no denieying Janet was huge in the 90's and early 00's its really since the superbowl her reputation had gone down, its a shame...
twinklEE theres no need to be rude Janet and Michael fans can get along I get on with most (if not all) Janet fans and I am one myself but theres no denieing Michael is in another world to Janet, but she is also one of the best out there IMO
 
twinklEE said:
In which country? Michael sold at least 100 million records in the 1990s dont forget that Dangerous that album alone sold more than 30mil worldwide was a 90s record with hits like Black or White, HIStory too sold extremely well overseas around 18/20 mill with big songs like Earth Song/YANA and the remix album Blood on the Dancefloor was at some point the biggest selling remix album. Michael also had the 2 top grossing worldtours of the 90s and had to battle unless Janet achieved the same (which she did not) nor did she have to face what he did the comparison is beyond ludicrous Oh and by the way Michael only had 2 album releases thruout the 90s. Given the impact 1993 had on Michael and his reputation it's a miracle and a prove that he was still able to do all that and achieve this much. Janet has pretty much been a one country star from the beginning with occasional hits in other countries in the 90s and I guess u can even say early 2001 (all 4 u), the only thing that made her standout from other one country stars was the fact that she was in some way associated to Michael.
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true but i don't think the question was solely comparing her to Michael jackson dat would just be a stupid question..but anyways i put sale records from the 90's of all 4 of them and to date janet is only beating 1 out of the 3 in record sale prince hit sit around 80-90 mill janet is at 100 mill.. not event close to the others
Dangerous (1991)- 30,000,000
HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book l (1995)- 22,000,000 (44 million units)
Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory in the Mix (1997)-8,000,00

janet." (1993), 7,005,000
The Velvet Rope" (1997), 3,227,000
Design of a Decade 1986/1996" (1995), 2,411,000

prince
1990 - Grafitti Bridge - 1.5 million
1991 - Diamonds & Pearls - 9 million
1992 - Love Symbol - 3 million
1993 - The Hits/B-Sides - 1.5 million
1994 - Come - 1 million
1995 - The Gold Experience - 1.5 million
1996 - Emancipation - 3 million
1999 - Rave un2 the joy fantastic - 1 million
madona
1990 I'm Breathless … 6,500,000/2x platinum
1990 The Immaculate Collection 26,500,000/10 x platinum (diamond)
 
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