most annoying sport ever. lol
but my family love it so i cna just about bare it for them
it's just the sound of the cars, it's painful to hear lol 'brummmmmmmm brum bruuum brummmm'
what makes you girls love it so much?? seriously.
I felt so so so bad for Massa. I still do. I admit, I cried when I watched the race. First because of joy because I thought Massa had won it. Then of sorrow because Hamilton had this amazing luck.
That look on Massa's father face when he was told that Massa didn't win the title.. it was heartbreaking!
I never thought I would get that emotional watching the race because I thought I don't care who wins but I hate that Hamilton will be called a 'world champion' from now on. I hate that he is the youngest champion ever. I'm sorry but I can't congratulate Hamilton. I still think his attitude during this season doesn't deserve the title.
It was good race though. Next year will be so much better for Ferrari and for Kimi. Can't wait for it.
ps. Massa's lil brother is cute. Hehe.
UUuu nice shoes :shifty:
When was the first pic taken?
They all look so happyI think it was after the GP yesterday. They were celebrating the winning of the WCC IMO. They always have the same kind of pics when they finish on the 1st place after the races.
LOL hehe yeah I notice now.. Massa looked so sad on the podium I've never felt so bad for him before.Kinga said:He was so lovely when he pat Felipe's shoulder on the podium. He did it last year also but with different feelings... OMG! Have you noticed? Kimi almost fell off the podium while doing it :lol: I think he might lost his balance or so and Felipe held him for a second. It was funny... :biggrin: You can see it in one of the pictures I posted in one of my previous post.
They all look so happy
I still haven't get over it that Hamilton is now a champion.
I try not to think about it. I wish the next season would begin already. But as Kimi said, now that F1 season ends, ice hockey season starts!!!
LOL hehe yeah I notice now.. Massa looked so sad on the podium I've never felt so bad for him before.
Oh My God!!!
What was that race?!? So good!!
Of course I didn't like the result, I wanted Massa to win. But the adrenaline... The whole atmosphere... The excitment...
Ok, maybe next year...
I couldn't believe that Massa was literally the champion when he crossed the line. I was laughing. I wanted to cry for him. I realised at that moment my heart wanted Massa to win in the end. I felt it doesn't matter if he's Kimi's teammate, it doesn't matter because compared to Hamilton on credit (penalties and behaviour) Massa was superior. I knew somehow Hamilton wouldn't earn anything at Brazil, yet again. He finished off the podium after such a strong win in China. What's that all about. Not exactly a glorious way to win a championship was it. The images of both Ferrari and McLaren garages celebrating was terrible and Massa crying on the team radio was heart breaking. Massa tasted a part of what Kimi felt at Spa. Going to heaven and falling back down to hell in a matter of seconds. But in a way, it was balanced between the two sides. It was extremely close between Massa and Hamilton all year. Both had their fair share of rubbish races and mistakes. So whoever would have won, deserved to because it's about the points at the end of the day. The championship is based on points only, nothing more. It was good that Massa had Kimi and Alonso beside him on the podium, it was his moment no matter if Hamilton became the champion.
Away from all the madness and spotlight shared between Hamilton and Massa, I saw Kimi. My champion. Always was and always will be. I felt relieved for Kimi that he was just witnessing the tears, the smiles, the mixed emotions. He's had enough of those already this year. The out-going world champion was on the podium though, as I said before, and that's the best thing I can take from this ending. He was there to take reward again for: being the champion here last year, for bringing Ferrari back into the constructors lead at Fuji, for giving the team full support in the last two races when needed, and most of all being there for Massa. I know some of you aren't keen on the Brazilian, but he did give Kimi his win last year for the championship. But Massa cried as he parked in parc ferme. He had no one there apart from Stefano Domenicali, physically near him, to say "it's alright, you did a great job, well done". Backstage of the podium, words must have been exchanged between Alonso, Kimi and Massa, but facing the fans and all the cameras with the heavy dark clouds above you isn't easy. So Kimi rested his hand on Massa's shoulder during the anthems with some words. The support Massa received there was amazing and no doubt it helped him to compose himself better in the press conference. He spoke really well and I have much more respect for Massa after this.
Back to the main story; Hamilton, on becoming the youngest world champion in Formula One's history. Wow. Credit to the dude and McLaren. The team call him special. Perhaps. He's really quick and he's good at reaching targets well and doing more. That's a talent. But I don't agree that he's special (obviously, Kimi's the special one of the lot to me!) because regardless of his position, he joined one of the best racing teams in Formula One for his debut. His car was immediately competitive despite such a lacklustre and winless season in 2006 (where Kimi out-performed the car). He has not suffered a single reliability problem. Kovalainen took the first blow of reliability in the previous race. That's not Hamilton's fault, that he's got such an awesome car. The team McLaren have done an amazing job with the car, and for me, it's their victory as much as it's Hamilton. Yet, McLaren still failed to win the constructors despite rival Ferrari having uncharacteristically poor reliability all season through, as well as management control hiccups. So, in my opinion Ferrari lost the driver's title and McLaren collected the pieces, notably at Singapore. And Hamilton fans can think whatever they like about this because presumably most of them don't have a clue how McLaren were before Hamilton came along.
After following McLaren since Kimi's career in F1 started, I always had a soft spot for them. I cheered for them like mad, a few years ago believe it or not. The past two years though, they were the opponent. Kimi spent 5 years in McLaren, hoping to become world champion there after just one year in F1 with Sauber. McLaren took on Kimi at first sight buying out his Sauber contract, because they also knew he was special. The mission failed in the end. McLaren were competitive, the only continuous threat to Ferrari, but they were also in a rough patch with their reliability records at their worst. Everyone made a huge roar when Hamilton scored a 3rd place, a podium, in his first ever F1 race. Nevermind the considerable amount of experience he had in GP2 and earlier series. Kimi on the other hand had only 23 professional races to his name when he came to F1. After one year at Sauber, he scored a 3rd place in his first race with McLaren too. So, with less experience and in an average car at Sauber, Kimi did just as good, if not better. The following races after his first podium included 5 DNFs, that's the kind of poor reliability and struggle that defines a driver and Hamilton hasn't experienced any of this. Then in remaining races where the car was okay, Kimi scored top 4 finishes in 2002, missing out on his first win at France due to oil on the track.
Kimi and Alonso were actually the first 'young guns' setting off this early trend in F1. The following years, F1 brought in younger talents, thanks mainly to the increase of financial interest and therefore sponsorship for drivers. McLaren aided Hamilton in all his career before F1, so obviously him winning the title as soon as possible is paying the favour back. It is now, that he faces the true challenge of F1. Infact, he's completely missed the challenges of F1 as Kimi, Button, and Alonso have, and jumped straight to the top. He's still got plenty to learn and my opinion of Hamilton hasn't changed: he's a damn quick fellow but so are five others F1 drivers at least in his range if not better, they're just in different cars. The difference between a special driver and a normal quick driver is what they can do with the differences in their car. Hamilton has maintained a 100% reliable car, suited to his style since the very beginning and also with a team 100% behind him and only him. McLaren disregarded their interest for the constructors title a few races back, despite always using Kovalainen for the 'teams' goal. Obviously, this means the teams goal always was to get Hamilton the driver's world championship. What they were financing for 10 years was for Hamilton's success. And they only got it by one point. They're going to have to try much harder next year if they think he can do it again. I seriously doubt it. Good luck, Mr Youngest F1 World Champion!
Now tha 2008 is done and dusted, we can finally turn the page and close this chapter and look forward to 2009. It was a year full of excitement, controversy, joy, sadness, compromise, triumph and defeat. Kimi's title defense didn't go to plan but we are better prepared for payback time. I want to say thanks to Kimi for just being Kimi.
I couldn't believe that Massa was literally the champion when he crossed the line. I was laughing. I wanted to cry for him. I realised at that moment my heart wanted Massa to win in the end. I felt it doesn't matter if he's Kimi's teammate, it doesn't matter because compared to Hamilton on credit (penalties and behaviour) Massa was superior. I knew somehow Hamilton wouldn't earn anything at Brazil, yet again. He finished off the podium after such a strong win in China. What's that all about. Not exactly a glorious way to win a championship was it. The images of both Ferrari and McLaren garages celebrating was terrible and Massa crying on the team radio was heart breaking. Massa tasted a part of what Kimi felt at Spa. Going to heaven and falling back down to hell in a matter of seconds. But in a way, it was balanced between the two sides. It was extremely close between Massa and Hamilton all year. Both had their fair share of rubbish races and mistakes. So whoever would have won, deserved to because it's about the points at the end of the day. The championship is based on points only, nothing more. It was good that Massa had Kimi and Alonso beside him on the podium, it was his moment no matter if Hamilton became the champion.
Back to the main story; Hamilton, on becoming the youngest world champion in Formula One's history. Wow. Credit to the dude and McLaren. The team call him special. Perhaps. He's really quick and he's good at reaching targets well and doing more. That's a talent. But I don't agree that he's special (obviously, Kimi's the special one of the lot to me!) because regardless of his position, he joined one of the best racing teams in Formula One for his debut. His car was immediately competitive despite such a lacklustre and winless season in 2006 (where Kimi out-performed the car). He has not suffered a single reliability problem. Kovalainen took the first blow of reliability in the previous race. That's not Hamilton's fault, that he's got such an awesome car. The team McLaren have done an amazing job with the car, and for me, it's their victory as much as it's Hamilton. Yet, McLaren still failed to win the constructors despite rival Ferrari having uncharacteristically poor reliability all season through, as well as management control hiccups. So, in my opinion Ferrari lost the driver's title and McLaren collected the pieces, notably at Singapore. And Hamilton fans can think whatever they like about this because presumably most of them don't have a clue how McLaren were before Hamilton came along.
After following McLaren since Kimi's career in F1 started, I always had a soft spot for them. I cheered for them like mad, a few years ago believe it or not. The past two years though, they were the opponent. Kimi spent 5 years in McLaren, hoping to become world champion there after just one year in F1 with Sauber. McLaren took on Kimi at first sight buying out his Sauber contract, because they also knew he was special. The mission failed in the end. McLaren were competitive, the only continuous threat to Ferrari, but they were also in a rough patch with their reliability records at their worst. Everyone made a huge roar when Hamilton scored a 3rd place, a podium, in his first ever F1 race. Nevermind the considerable amount of experience he had in GP2 and earlier series. Kimi on the other hand had only 23 professional races to his name when he came to F1. After one year at Sauber, he scored a 3rd place in his first race with McLaren too. So, with less experience and in an average car at Sauber, Kimi did just as good, if not better. The following races after his first podium included 5 DNFs, that's the kind of poor reliability and struggle that defines a driver and Hamilton hasn't experienced any of this. Then in remaining races where the car was okay, Kimi scored top 4 finishes in 2002, missing out on his first win at France due to oil on the track.
Kimi and Alonso were actually the first 'young guns' setting off this early trend in F1. The following years, F1 brought in younger talents, thanks mainly to the increase of financial interest and therefore sponsorship for drivers. McLaren aided Hamilton in all his career before F1, so obviously him winning the title as soon as possible is paying the favour back. It is now, that he faces the true challenge of F1. Infact, he's completely missed the challenges of F1 as Kimi, Button, and Alonso have, and jumped straight to the top. He's still got plenty to learn and my opinion of Hamilton hasn't changed: he's a damn quick fellow but so are five others F1 drivers at least in his range if not better, they're just in different cars. The difference between a special driver and a normal quick driver is what they can do with the differences in their car. Hamilton has maintained a 100% reliable car, suited to his style since the very beginning and also with a team 100% behind him and only him. McLaren disregarded their interest for the constructors title a few races back, despite always using Kovalainen for the 'teams' goal. Obviously, this means the teams goal always was to get Hamilton the driver's world championship. What they were financing for 10 years was for Hamilton's success. And they only got it by one point. They're going to have to try much harder next year if they think he can do it again. I seriously doubt it. Good luck, Mr Youngest F1 World Champion!
Not a great fan of Hamilton but congrats to the guy. In all fairness despite Massa's win, Hamilton had been slightly more consistent throughout the season. He blew it last year, didnt this year.
MTV3 asked whether Finns think the title went to a right driver... the result:
Yes31.2 %4231 kplNo68.8 %9338 kpl
isn't this just heartbreaking photo..
Felipe Massa says he experienced the longest few seconds of his life after he crossed the finish line of the Brazilian Gp. He had to wait for information about the fate of World Championship about 40 seconds.
Massa came to the finish line victorious, but the World Cup titleholder's fate depended increasingly on would Lewis Hamilton be able to stand up fifth place, in front of Timo Glock. Massa was a full-time radio contact with race engineer Rob Smedley.
- After crossing the finish line, Rob said to me, 'Calm down, calm down, because I need to verify Lewis' situation. " Then I drove to corner number one and it lasted forever to hear the result. Then the time for second corner and I was told again to "wait a minute, he is fighting against Glock." Then, when I got to corner three they told me, 'OK, he overtook Glock, so ... But you did a good job anyway", Massa told about the championship changing for second place.
GEez and I will get over this NOW.
Q. Kimi, obviously you were catching hard at the end, was it that the tyres really came to you? Was it a struggle early on?
KR: The first set, especially, was quite difficult. The car didn't want to turn but it was slightly better at the beginning of the second one, the second set of dry tyres, and then it got better all the time, so I was able to catch up. As Fernando said, when the rain came and I got close to him, they told me not to risk anything because if I went off, it would not be good for the team, for Felipe's situation at that moment. For myself it was no difference and the team would have won the championship anyhow, so we just came home third.
Q. What were the conditions like out there?
KR: Of course, it was wet at the start but the grip was not too bad, actually. It was trickier on dry tyres when there were some wet patches and I took it very easily at those places. My only mission was to get points for the team. Not the nicest race in the end but we got what we wanted, so that was the most important thing.
Q. (Heikki Kulta – Turun Sanomat) Kimi, you just lost your championship title to Hamilton. How do you feel about that?
KR: You can always lose some points. OK, I lost it this year, so well done to him, he deserves it in the end. He got the most points from this year, so I don't feel bad. Of course, my season was not what I wanted in the end but that's racing. Sometimes you have bad moments during the season and it cost too many points for me this year but I will try to come back next year and it's a completely different story again. I won it once and for sure I want to win it more times but this year didn't happen and we will come back stronger next year and try to get it back.unk:unk:unk:
BUT because he got them (fair or not) there was always a reason. Penalties aren't given without a reason. So whether someone thinks they were unfair, he had droven so that someone thinks there's a reason. Kimi - or Kubica - didn't have any penalties because they didn't give reason for it with their driving style.Kinga said:Sorry, I wouldn't say he was more consistent than Massa. Both made big mistakes during this season. Massa: Australia, Malaysia, Silverstone, Hamilton: Bahrain, CANADA :bugeyed, Spa. Massa couldn't make it more because of the team's mistakes and unreliability. Australia, Hungary - engine blew up, Singapore - awful mistake during the fuelling. The more consistent driver (who didn't make mistakes) was Kubica IMO. The problem was that he hadn't got a car that would have been fast enough. Hamilton had many penalties, we can't say whether they were fair or not but he got them.
Aww yes, he's like a proud daddy ^_^Look at Domenicali's face... as if he was thinking: I'm so proud of them, they are the best team-mates...
BUT because he got them (fair or not) there was always a reason. Penalties aren't given without a reason. So whether someone thinks they were unfair, he had droven so that someone thinks there's a reason. Kimi - or Kubica - didn't have any penalties because they didn't give reason for it with their driving style.
Aww yes, he's like a proud daddy ^_^
Aww that's great pic. I always start smiling when I see him smilingYes, there was always a reason why... I just didn't want to sound narrow-minded but it's true that Kimi would never ever play the dirty game (both on and off track). That's one of the reasons why I love him.
awww yes!:wub::wub:
Look at this smile.... OMG!!!:wub: One of the best pictures of him IMO....
:rofl:Kinga said:and what about this??? Isn't it funny??? LOL It's from a German TV show called Wetten daß? (means Wanna bet?) in 2005... and he lost a bet and had to blow up beach ball and other things... haha too cute...
Aww that's great pic. I always start smiling when I see him smiling
:rofl:
He's all red blowing those things... haha
yeah, me too. I just love his smile!
:lmao: I noticed that too!!!! :lol: I can't believe he did this. It's kinda hilarious. He's not the person who likes to be seen in this kind of situation in front of the camera.
LMAO :lmao: :lmao: They're hilarious :rofl:^^^can be...
Look at these... they're sooo funny!!!! :lmao:
In my opinion, saying 'Massa tasted a part' is belittled. In my own opinion, what happened to Massa was worse than what happened to Kimi at Spa. Of course it was not nice at all what happened to Kimi but it was just one race. This, instead, was abut world champion and it was so close.
So many people have been talking about Kimi's "bad" year. It has not been a bad year.
What I want to say is that it is during the bad times that the true character of a person shows and, for me, more important than Kimi being world champion, more important than F1, Kimi showed the type of person and human being he is and I think that he, and all of us fans, should be more proud of this than his being world champion, because he is truly a wonderful example of how a man/person should strive for and be.
Throughout this year, he never complained, never acted as a "champion", never demanded to be treated as the champion, and when the team needed him, at the risk that the team would consider Massa as more important than him, he never hesitated to help, never thought of himself, and put aside all personal aspirations to be there for his team and his teammate. That in itself makes me more proud of him than if he had won the world championship again.
I chose this poem by Rudyard Kipling because it reflects all Kimi has shown us of his person especially this year when "the chips were down".
If
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream, and not make dreams your master,
If you can think, and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings, nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And, which is more, you'll be a Man, my son!
- Rudyard Kipling