First Look: Life with La Toya - Oprah Winfrey Network

[mysterygirl7]

If Latoya didn't keep giving me a reason to be unfavorbale towards her, I would be able to enjoy seeing her. It's like when she 1st appeared on The Apprentice last year. I loved her on there and rooted for her. But then afterwards while promoting her book, I didn't like how she sold out MJ when asked about his parenting and then later with the shameless exploition of his kids.

That is what I finds so odd about the family. They continuously come out with all these projects, but they don't do anything to make you want to support them.

What did she say about MJs parenting?

 

[HIStory]

They are not really saying anything shocking... the security guy or whatever he is, he seems to be someone who works there, is saying that Kenya barked in a certain place near Michaels old room. Then they are saying that strange things has happened, a door opened.. I don't believe in those kind of things either, but there are many people that believe in spirits and stuff.. she is no different, than anybody else who has lost a relative..

IMO this is just her way to drag MJ's name into her show and to exploit it for her own benefit.

 

[qbee]

I hope she takes the ghosts advice .. Actually Im thinking maybe Jeffri set it up to force her move on from all her conspiracy crap. he's probably tired of it too... or may they are all in on it... Strange how the pyschic seemed to be the ONLY one believable though :lol: I'm actually relieved it didn't end up the ghost saying someone murdered him and for latoya to find out who it was .. I was gettin pissed thinking thats where it was going. I hope this means she is done with all that crap,

 

[LastTear]

So she managed to drag Michael into her reality show! And I can't bring myself to watch it but in part 2 it says she meets P,P&B, are they in it?

 

[qbee]

So she managed to drag Michael into her reality show! And I can't bring myself to watch it but in part 2 it says she meets P,P&B, are they in it?

Ive got all 4 parts of episode two here- There is about 2 minutes of them meeting and throwing a ball out at a baseball park. If she doesn't do more it's not that concerning. but her bringing Michael ghost in for an appearance to speak to her is what concerns me. I hope she doesn't make a habit out of doing that now.. saying Michael told me to .. so she can blame her antics on him.

All 4 parts of Episode Two
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...twork/page12?p=3812946&viewfull=1#post3812946

 

[LastTear]

^^^^I wouldn't put anything past her tbh. I find her very difficult to watch although I am intrigued to see her in disguise! Lol Yes I agree with with you on Michael.

I only asked about he children because LaToya said in that interview that they were not a part of her show.

 

[Petrarose]

^Funny comments above. I see some of you were strong enough to look at this thing. Based on your comments it seems that show has both the dead & living in it--hmmm a great hook to keep the viewers tuned in.

 

[Bonnie Blue]

Part 4
Latoya goes to medium in disguise. He contacts spirits says a Michael is there. Michael's spirit says his death was an accident but not really an accident. (sounds like negligence to me) He says he is happy and wants her to quit playing CSI and move on with her life. This makes latoya relieved and free to start over. Next Episode she is going house hunting.

Well that's a bit of a bombshell. Can't latoya and the medium let mrs jackson know about what mj's spirit said so she can stop the aeg lawsuit, seeing as mj is apparently happy to let them all move on with their lives.

 

[gerryevans]

^^^Thanks to all for the "medium" posts. I've been literally laughing out loud. Just what a person needs after a crazy work day and catching up on what's going on in MJ's world. This is why MJ fans are the greatest. They can take you from serious thought to hysterical laughter in an instant. I love it.

 

[etoile 37]

if you don't understand that Jack Gordon made her do all those things, and controlled her

I'd love nothing more than to believe that Jack Gordon forced La Toya to make those accusations against Michael. But as I was going through her book "Starting Over" last night, there are some parts where it is so obvious that she is lying about how things happened. Take the part about the press conference for example. She says that she had never read the script that Jack gave her beforehand. Yet you can see in the video that at some point she's not even reading from her sheet of paper anymore. So how does her version of events make sense? And why lie about it if she has nothing to hide? It would have been more credible if she had just said that Jack Gordon made her rehearse beforehand. Saying that she had never read the script before is just ridiculous to anyone who has seen the video of the press conference. Also she says that Jack didn't beat her into it. And that he didn't threaten to kill Michael if she didn't do it. By her own admission, she says she just assumed that he would hurt Michael if she didn't do it, just because he hated Michael so much.

Read this:

Now compare that to the video:

And in this part, she says that before escaping Jack Gordon, she had to ask him to give her her passport. The thing is... she also says she was in New York at the time, so why did she need her passport to escape? Not only that, but she says he gave her her passport when she asked him. Why would he just give her her passport if he was trying to hold her prisoner? And why would she ask for her passport if she was trying to escape without his knowledge. That's like clearly letting him know that you're leaving, which would be pretty dumb if she was really his prisoner. So I guess she wasn't, and she knew she wasn't.

And finally, she mentions so many occasions where Jack let her be alone with some of her family members. She says he let her stay in Michael's hotel room alone with him (with all of Michael's security guards nearby no less.) He also let her ride alone in Jermaine's car, all she had to do was tell him to turn the car around. Why would Jack Gordon let her be alone with them, in situations where it was so easy to escape, if he was truly trying to keep her prisoner? Doesn't make any sense.

I truly believe he abused her by beating her on many occasions, there ain't no doubt in my mind about that. But the whole "he held me prisoner and every single thing I did was against my will"... doesn't make sense...

What's more, now that Jack Gordon is dead, she keeps doing exactly what she was doing with him, except now Michael is no longer the one she's accusing without any proof. In the book, she keeps saying that Frank Dileo, John Branca and other people were doing to Michael what Jack Gordon was doing to her. Seriously now? I don't remember Michael ever complaining that these people were holding him prisoner and beating him into doing things. And when he thought they were getting too controlling, he just fired them. Her new accusations are no different than the ones she did against Michael back in the day.

 

[Petrarose]

Etoile did this woman ever say why her husband hated Michael so much? I mean why did he want to destroy him.

 

[pug]

I can't stand to look at her old interviews. I have known women who were physically abused but the factors that kept them in the relationship were usually economic, they had children, and they had no were to go. Even under those circumstances, when a good opportunity to leave came they took it, even to live in a shelter. LaToya would do better if she admitted to having a mental illness (which I believe she does).

 

[LastTear]

I don't mind admitting that I feel deep resentment when I see how the Jacksons lifestyle has changed on the back of Michael's death, this is why I only managed about 3 minutes of episode one.

I managed parts 2,3&4 of this episode, mostly drawn in by LaToya's lie that the children were not a part of it and of course Michael supposedly putting in a guest appearance! Smh

The bad acting awards go to the security guard and the medium! Oh please, Kenya pointed...... I mean she looked up at Michael's old room....... And the medium, well..... I have a feeling that Michael would have a lot more to say to LaToya, but maybe that's just me.

How does LaToya go from my brother was MURDERED to 'we don't know what happened'

Why the hell is slimy Majestik living at Havenhurst? I guess Michael is paying for that privilege! No wonder Michael's 'ghost' is making so much damn noise!

And why is Kenya at Havenhurst? Was she only brought there to give her account of Michael's spirit? Or does she not live with the children any more?

 

[Petrarose]

^^I thought the house was empty, unless Majestic is paid to stay there to keep an eye on the place--you know air it out, put the heat on & off. I am still not tempted to look at the show, but it is fun to read the comments here.

Pub each year I meet women who are in domestic violence relationships. They say they are leaving or are going to throw the man out and they never do. They tell you all their drama. They even tell you the out they have, e.g., like going to the court to have the police take the man out, but they never do. I have met some who kicked out the men, got a protective order & then weeks later they took back the man. They all say "I love him." The few I have met who left, was pushed by some friends or family. I notice that some of them have an abuser in all their love relationships. It is a mess, and this domestic violence situation & why the women stay is a complicated issue to me.

I do think Latoya was abused, and I do think she like the women I meet, was able to leave several times, but she did not for some reasons of her own. That is the thing with them. They always claim they are leaving and then, stay. I mean, in the US there are domestic shelters & I have been in some of them in a professional capacity, and the apartments are pretty nice inside.

 

[Bubs]

I don't mind admitting that I feel deep resentment when I see how the Jacksons lifestyle has changed on the back of Michael's death, this is why I only managed about 3 minutes of episode one.

I managed parts 2,3&4 of this episode, mostly drawn in by LaToya's lie that the children were not a part of it and of course Michael supposedly putting in a guest appearance! Smh

The bad acting awards go to the security guard and the medium! Oh please, Kenya pointed...... I mean she looked up at Michael's old room....... And the medium, well..... I have a feeling that Michael would have a lot more to say to LaToya, but maybe that's just me.

How does LaToya go from my brother was MURDERED to 'we don't know what happened'

Why the hell is slimy Majestik living at Havenhurst? I guess Michael is paying for that privilege! No wonder Michael's 'ghost' is making so much damn noise!

And why is Kenya at Havenhurst? Was she only brought there to give her account of Michael's spirit? Or does she not live with the children any more?

I thought there was some remodeling work going on Havenhurst ? Maybe Joe told to his pal Majestick he can stay there, wasn't Joe camping there too during granny-napping?

I was wondering Kenya too, why the dog is not with kids? Was that the dog Michael gave to kids for xmas?

 

[mysterygirl7]

I thought there was some remodeling work going on Havenhurst ? Maybe Joe told to his pal Majestick he can stay there, wasn't Joe camping there too during granny-napping?

I was wondering Kenya too, why the dog is not with kids? Was that the dog Michael gave to kids for xmas?

Yeah...to me it seems very sad, that they moved to Calabassas and left the dog behind... ;-(

 

[LastTear]

^^I thought the house was empty, unless Majestic is paid to stay there to keep an eye on the place--you know air it out, put the heat on & off. I am still not tempted to look at the show, but it is fun to read the comments here.

You're so sweet. No I think the 24hr security guards could do that, even LaToya introduced him as the resident free loader! lol

******

Poor Kenya, what did that poor dog do to deserve living with Majestik.uke:

 

[Bubs]

I had to check kids and Katherine's interview with Oprah from 2010, and Paris says this:
PARIS JACKSON: Sometimes he would take me to an art museum because we both loved art, and we would do a lot as a family. We would play tag outside, and he got us Kenya four years ago.

Kenya was the dog that Michael got for kids and now poor dog is left behind:-(

 

[mysterygirl7]

Kenya is so sweet...

 

[LastTear]

I had to check kids and Katherine's interview with Oprah from 2010, and Paris says this:
PARIS JACKSON: Sometimes he would take me to an art museum because we both loved art, and we would do a lot as a family. We would play tag outside, and he got us Kenya four years ago.

Kenya was the dog that Michael got for kids and now poor dog is left behind:-(

Ah but she is advertised as Michael's dog on this show and Majesik is Michael's magician, and she is Michael's sister and so on and so.

 

[Bonnie Blue]

I had to check kids and Katherine's interview with Oprah from 2010, and Paris says this:
PARIS JACKSON: Sometimes he would take me to an art museum because we both loved art, and we would do a lot as a family. We would play tag outside, and he got us Kenya four years ago.

Kenya was the dog that Michael got for kids and now poor dog is left behind:-(

That's the xmas video that mrs j handed over for the trial. I read some time ago, on here it must have been, that their estate in calabasas doesn't allow dogs so kenya was left behind at hayvenhurst. I remember commenting at the time that this means there was someone around to look after him.

I get the impression that mrs j is happy to have another property being in the estate portfolio as it means some family members can get to live on mjestate's dime - she's def not planning on moving back there. Didn't she say in that mailonsunday interview that she's wanting to buy the calabasas house.

 

[Virre]

Kenya lives at Hayvenhurst just because dogs are not allowed in the Calabasas house. I don't know if that is the owner of the house who decided that or Katherine, but I think it's owner. Security guys work 24/7 at Hayvenhurst and they take care of Kenya.

And then Majestik.. What I do know is that he lives in Las Vegas and when he's in LA he sometimes stay at Hayvenhurst and so does Joe.

 

[mysterygirl7]

How can you rent such an expensive house, and then you are not even allowed a dog...? Weird.... but maybe the neighbours would get annoyed if it barks.. *shrugs*

Kenya lives at Hayvenhurst just because dogs are not allowed in the Calabasas house. I don't know if that is the owner of the house who decided that or Katherine, but I think it's owner. Security guys work 24/7 at Hayvenhurst and they take care of Kenya.

And then Majestik.. What I do know is that he lives in Las Vegas and when he's in LA he sometimes stay at Hayvenhurst and so does Joe.

 

[pug]

^^I thought the house was empty, unless Majestic is paid to stay there to keep an eye on the place--you know air it out, put the heat on & off. I am still not tempted to look at the show, but it is fun to read the comments here.

Pub each year I meet women who are in domestic violence relationships. They say they are leaving or are going to throw the man out and they never do. They tell you all their drama. They even tell you the out they have, e.g., like going to the court to have the police take the man out, but they never do. I have met some who kicked out the men, got a protective order & then weeks later they took back the man. They all say "I love him." The few I have met who left, was pushed by some friends or family. I notice that some of them have an abuser in all their love relationships. It is a mess, and this domestic violence situation & why the women stay is a complicated issue to me.

I do think Latoya was abused, and I do think she like the women I meet, was able to leave several times, but she did not for some reasons of her own. That is the thing with them. They always claim they are leaving and then, stay. I mean, in the US there are domestic shelters & I have been in some of them in a professional capacity, and the apartments are pretty nice inside.

Petrarose you are right she was abused by Jack Gordon, but she went along the ride voluntarily. They were partners in crime. Those old YouTube videos from '93' show she was not reading her statements. I get upset when I remember her behavior from that time.

 

[etoile 37]

Etoile did this woman ever say why her husband hated Michael so much? I mean why did he want to destroy him.

She wrote in her book that it's because he believed she worshipped Michael, and that annoyed him to no end, making him very jealous.

 

[marebear]

I still can't believe out of all the sisters Michael had that his children would get close to Latoya. I wonder if they have any contact with the others.

 

[Aquarius]

How can you rent such an expensive house, and then you are not even allowed a dog...? Weird.... but maybe the neighbours would get annoyed if it barks.. *shrugs*

The neighbors complaining could be a reason but it's hard to understand it because that's such a big property that I don't think the neighbors would hear Kenya barking.

On the subject of Hayvenshurt, why is that Majestik staying there? I thought the estate had control of the house.

 

[Aquarius]

I get the impression that mrs j is happy to have another property being in the estate portfolio as it means some family members can get to live on mjestate's dime - she's def not planning on moving back there. Didn't she say in that mailonsunday interview that she's wanting to buy the calabasas house.

And if I remember correctly she said she doesn't plan on selling Hayvenhurst house. She refers to the house as if she owns it. I'd like to know if the estate gave her the house.

 

[Petrarose]

She wrote in her book that it's because he believed she worshipped Michael, and that annoyed him to no end, making him very jealous.

Oh please, couldn't she think of a better excuse. You have to be very low on self-esteem as a man, if you are so jealous that your wife likes her brother, that you resort to almost having him put in jail.

^^Michael's estate owns the Hayvenhurst home, which will eventually belong to the children. When the estate found the other home for the beneficiaries to live, a foolish paper printed that Katherine wanted to buy the new home and would sell the Hayvenhurst home. (You know reporters do not know who owns what.) Jermaine responded that mother would not sell the house. This is just Jermaine talking their entitlement talk again, since the home does not belong to Katherine.


About the dog, it could be that the owner of the new home does not allow dogs because they tend to damage the floors/walls. I know sometimes owners will state no pets.

 

[Bubs]

Ah but she is advertised as Michael's dog on this show and Majesik is Michael's magician, and she is Michael's sister and so on and so.

Kenya is not Michael's dog, Majestic "family free loader" was not Michael's macician, and the jury is still out whether Michael is member of that family after all.

She should change the name of her show to My life as Michael Jackson free loading sister :smilerolleyes:



About Kenya the dog, as animal lover, there is no chance in hell that I would move to house that doesn't allow pets if I have dog or cat. Didn't they find a house that allows pets?
Seemingly the landlord doesn't allow dogs as kids have snakes and Paris too had other pets there if I remember corrrectly? If Katherine buys the house, then kids can have their pet dog with them.


Petrarose, I think Katherine was ready to sell Havenhurst the time when the reports of selling Havenhurst hit the news. I think she was talked out of it by certain free loading cubs and their kids that needs place to stay.

Hint, check Jermoney's twits from Sept/2010