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Exclusive: Janet Jackson promises UK live dates

OnOurWay said:
Janet needs to rebuild her presence in Europe first before she talks about touring. She needs two or three hits in Europe before she can sell tickets overseas.

:lol: @ Janet canceling the European dates of the All For You Tour because of low ticket sales. Umm, why didn't Mike tour with Invincible again? Exactly. It wasn't the ticket sales.

:lol: @ the ignorance. Yes Janet flew to Japan with the tour, but I love how you ignored the fact that the Japanese dates were FOUR MONTHS after 9/11 while the European dates were SIX WEEKS after 9/11.

I wish some of you would be informed before you make ridiculous claims.
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Ridiculous, others have addressed your comment so I won't bother. Also, just to let you know, one of the new rules of this section is to not constantly belittle Michael to build up other family members. It's just unnecessary, and to be honest, petty. So count that as a strike.
 
I specifically remember in TII that it was stated Mike didn't tour with Invincible because of 9/11.
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it may havebeen said if someone wants to confirm. but its totally untrue. there was no tour planned for vince.no tour was ever even announced or talked about because it was well known what was going on with mj and mottola months b4 the album even came out and the sony war began.tours are planned and arranged months/years in advance yet according to you a non excistant tour that would have started well over 6 months after 9/11 got cancelled lol .i guess you are getting confused with janet and werent even around during the vince era.the fact u feel the need to bring mj into it with such a ridiculous argument sums it up as i said below

if ppl can show what the ticket sales were that show they sold well in europe then fine.ill take it back .but im only talking about what went on at the time. and wonder why they were never rescheduled if they sold so well
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Perhaps you should be more informed before you make assumptions like so.
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so true lol

one of the new rules of this section is to not constantly belittle Michael to build up other family members. It's just unnecessary, and to be honest, petty. So count that as a strike.
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thank you this a mj board not a janet or marlon or randy etc board.
 
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StaceyMJ said:
Ridiculous, others have addressed your comment so I won't bother. Also, just to let you know, one of the new rules of this section is to not constantly belittle Michael to build up other family members. It's just unnecessary, and to be honest, petty. So count that as a strike.
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Well I'm glad there's new rules. But since we're playing the "this is an MJ board game", it seems like much of a conflict of interest to not discuss him and use his career to get points across. Saying he opted out of his Invincible tour because of 9/11 is not belittling him. It's stating a fact. So no strike, really.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
it may havebeen said if someone wants to confirm. but its totally untrue. there was no tour planned for vince.no tour was ever even announced or talked about because it was well known what was going on with mj and mottola months b4 the album even came out and the sony war began.tours are planned and arranged months/years in advance yet according to you a non excistant tour that would have started well over 6 months after 9/11 got cancelled lol .i guess you are getting confused with janet and werent even around during the vince era.the fact u feel the need to bring mj into it with such a ridiculous argument sums it up as i said below

so true lol

thank you this a mj board not a janet or marlon or randy etc board.
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So it wasn't stated in TII that he didn't tour with Invincible because of 9/11? Did you WATCH TII? :mello: And not only did I use Mike as an example, I also used Madonna. Let's not pick and choose please and thank you.
 
Well I'm glad there's new rules. But since we're playing the "this is an MJ board game", it seems like much of a conflict of interest to not discuss him and use his career to get points across. Saying he opted out of his Invincible tour because of 9/11 is not belittling him. It's stating a fact. So no strike, really.
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It's not a fact, it's fiction.
 
OnOurWay said:
Well I'm glad there's new rules. But since we're playing the "this is an MJ board game", it seems like much of a conflict of interest to not discuss him and use his career to get points across. Saying he opted out of his Invincible tour because of 9/11 is not belittling him. It's stating a fact. So no strike, really.
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The strike stands - see above posts.
 
raz2911 said:
didn't the all for you tour dates get cancelled because of 9/11? I think Janet would have been able to see the tickets back then I remember all for you being quiet big here, ofcorse its going to be much harder now, as shes slipped under the radar over here, but if anyone can do it Janet can :)

I think she should start with maybe one or two shows max just to see how they sell, then decide if she thinks she can sell more.
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yep exactly. i had tickets for oberhausen, germany, but they cancelled it cuz of 9/11
 
*comes into the thread wearing WWI style tin hat & combats*

I used to listen to Janet a lot in the 90's and liked a few pieces from the 00's. If she was to tour (even just a few dates) I'd look into attending one of them.

elusive moonwalker said:
thank you this a mj board not a janet or marlon or randy etc board.
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Please don't take this as an attack elusive but isn't this the JACKSON FAMILY section of an MJ board?
 
If you are having a hard time praising Janet or any member of the Jackson family without belittling Michael then you need to be reminded who this board is for. And someone is having a hard time doing just that
 
Please do not make me pull out my TII DVD and pinpoint the exact minute and second when it was stated Mike didn't tour with Invincible because of 9/11. :mellow:

I would hate to make all of you look very stupid. :mellow:
 
Pez said:
WOW! :lol:

Deluded MJ fan much?

AFY was cancelled because of 9/11. Most shows through Europe had sold out.
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Exactly, im sure I remember the tickets had already sold out.
All for you was massive in Europe. And the velvet rope tour was a massive sell out.
So there is no reason why back then, she wouldn't have sold tickets.

Some of yull are just so jealous Janet actually bothered to give her fans music in the 00s.
 
Moogisland said:
Some of yull are just so jealous Janet actually bothered to give her fans music in the 00s.
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I'm not a fan of Janet's music, but I think she's talented and wish her success if she decides to play some concerts in the UK.

I think your above comment is way off the mark, and unfair on Michael. Michael wasn't exactly in a position to release more studio albums and concentrate on his career the 2000's, considering all the horrible things happening in his life, with the Martin Bashir crap and that 2005 trial (that should never have happened.

That trial took a lot out of Michael mentally and health wise, and it's common sense that he didn't go straight in to his career after the trial so he could get himself together mentally because he had a horrible decade in the 2000's. If Michael wasn't being framed by people, sued by ex-employees, sabotaged by his music label and crucified by the media then you might have had a point about Janet's output of 4 new albums compared to Michael's only release Invincible. But the fact is he went through hell and so it's not a case of Michael "not being bothered" with releasing new albums for most of the 2000's.
 
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benscarr said:
I'm not a fan of Janet's music, but I think she's talented and wish her success if she decides to play some concerts in the UK.

I think your above comment is way off the mark, and unfair on Michael. Michael wasn't exactly in a position to release more studio albums and concentrate on his career the 2000's, considering all the horrible things happening in his life, with the Martin Bashir crap and that 2005 trial (that should never have happened.

That trial took a lot out of Michael mentally and health wise, and it's common sense that he didn't go straight in to his career after the trial so he could get himself together mentally because he had a horrible decade in the 2000's. If Michael wasn't being framed by people, sued by ex-employees, sabotaged by his music label and crucified by the media then you might have had a point about Janet's output of 4 new albums compared to Michael's only release Invincible. But the fact is he went through hell and so it's not a case of Michael "not being bothered" with releasing new albums for most of the 2000's.
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I think you are right on the mark. Some of the comments of people just smack of *censored*. It is not only annoying, but it is sad at the level of self serving haughtiness and total lack of regard for what Mj did go through in the 00's.

Oh, BTW, Invincible came out in 01. So MJ did release new music in 00's.
 
there are so many reasons MJ didn't want to tour for Invincible. one would be that he simply got tired of touring. i don't think there was much space to suddenly decide that, between 2001 and 2003 when he made PHM and made that poignant announcement. by this time he was getting tired of the whole shark infested business. sony surely didn't help matters.
 
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benscarr you hit the nail on the head, plus i don't think he would of done a tour while the kids were so young, hense him waiting all that time for TII. Janet has had it hard this past decade with the whole superbowl thing, but michael had to deal with that on a daily bases.
 
raz2911 said:
Janet has had it hard this past decade with the whole superbowl thing, but michael had to deal with that on a daily bases.
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Yep. Compared to what Michael faced for almost 20 years to his death, that Superbowl set back with Janet was a walk in the park; but I'm sure it was hard on her because she was unfairly treated regarding that wardrobe malfunction. It was unfair how Janet was left out to dry by Justin Timberlake and how she was solely targeted by the media and FCC. This was Janet's first time dealing with something where her career and her character was attacked. I think that incident gave her a jolt of the reality of Michael's world in what he had to CONSTANTLY deal with.
 
That's interesting, I never thought of it like that before.
 
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there are so many reasons MJ didn't want to tour for Invincible.
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well, according to Michael Prince (the tour audio supervisor/live sound engineer for TII) is that Michael wanted to tour in 2001 but had to, like so many other celebs, cancel due to 9/11. He talks about this on the extras for the TIIdvd. Prince had worked for Michael for nearly 15 years so i guess he was in a know?
 
Vici said:
well, according to Michael Prince (the tour audio supervisor/live sound engineer for TII) is that Michael wanted to tour in 2001 but had to, like so many other celebs, cancel due to 9/11. He talks about this on the extras for the TIIdvd. Prince had worked for Michael for nearly 15 years so i guess he was in a know?
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As I said on the last page. :coffee:
 
Dear we all saw this is it we know what was in it. But some of us were around in 01 and we know there was no invincible tour planned. And we don't need to put things in big bold red letters to prove it
 
Vici said:
well, according to Michael Prince (the tour audio supervisor/live sound engineer for TII) is that Michael wanted to tour in 2001 but had to, like so many other celebs, cancel due to 9/11. He talks about this on the extras for the TIIdvd. Prince had worked for Michael for nearly 15 years so i guess he was in a know?
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well this is another one of those instances, where, i guess Michael being in the know about himself doesn't count as much as a third party being 'in the know' about him? MJ used to say a lot of people were his 'spokespeople' often misrepresenting what MJ said. having said that, i'm sure Michael and a lot of artists couldn't tour because of 911, no matter how they felt about touring.
 
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