Dr. Slavit's Examination of Michael

[chanel05]

Your point of view is just that your point of view. The doctor who held Michael's organs in his hands said he was healthy that is all that matters. I hate it when people say he could have gained a little weight as long has he was happy that is all that matters

Why hate others peoples opinions about a subject??? Its all a matter of opinion and point of view just as you say...

Largely depends on what kind of dancing you do, but a true dancer's body will be svelte, and I think that is largely the way Michael preferred it. His type of moves would be best suited for someone with a thinner frame. I would think someone with a muscular build would look rather clumsy doing what he did.

Then, of course, there's the matter of age. As we age, we lose muscle mass all over our bodies, and we also lose fat from our faces, etc. which could make us appear thinner. So, there are a lot of complex factors which ought to be taken into account regarding Michael and his weight during the rehearsals. I think he looked fit and healthy, if only a bit on the thin side, but I would not have looked at him and thought there was cause for concern if we consider only the photographic/video footage up to his death.

I agree.... I was just pointing out that lots of male dancers are bigger even though the a svelte body is considered a "true" dancers body.

 

[loveforever]

I saw a interview back then from one of mj employee I think, he said Michael said he wanted to keep this weight so he could dance his best.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Theres many conflicting reports. u have mj supposedky telling fans he was upset that he couldnt put weight on. Personally i find the later pics terrible interms of how thin he is

 

[soulmum]

^ Agree, we have all seen a very slender MJ but in the last pics he looks painfully thin. I'd like to believe he'd have bulked up just prior to performing but he'd lose whatever he gained by all the hard work he'd be doing. Didn't he always say that the stress of an upcoming tour always meant he slept and ate less than normally.

 

[chanel05]

Theres many conflicting reports. u have mj supposedky telling fans he was upset that he couldnt put weight on. Personally i find the later pics terrible interms of how thin he is

yea he really needed more weight for a man his age. but if i remember correctly, wasnt one of the medicines found at mj house an appetite suppressant???

^ Agree, we have all seen a very slender MJ but in the last pics he looks painfully thin. I'd like to believe he'd have bulked up just prior to performing but he'd lose whatever he gained by all the hard work he'd be doing. Didn't he always say that the stress of an upcoming tour always meant he slept and ate less than normally.

yea i remember mj saying that also, but i dont know where he stated it.

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isnt it weird that in the early 00's when he was struggling with his prescription (to the point where he would be showing up places kinda out of it) that he was his largest weight... yet later in life he was very thin???
I just found that odd

 

[qbee]

^^ I'm also wary of people who believe they have a more accuarate idea of mj's weight because they've looked at photos and watched 'this is it', than the LA coroner with 20yrs experience. Were the coroner's scales wrong, was the coroner not wearing his specs when reading the callibrations, was he a sony/aeg sleeper agent activated on 26th june to add 20lb to mj's weight?

What 20 lbs are you speaking of ???
136 - 127 = 9lbs .. He weighed 127 in Feb and he could have gained well over 10 lbs easy during March... April .. May.. Before the heavy rehearsals and before Murray started treating him. Karen said it was only the last 2 weeks they noticed a significant deteriation in his health and weight. She said it happened so fast. If you seen his costumes in person from various tours you would see he was always "VERY" thin. That was normal for him.

I would also like to clarify something that Ivy touched on that has been bothering me for a long time.
The weight karen Faye mentioned from the mortition was "WEEKS AFTER" the autopsy. (his body was more a less a shell minus body fluids and organs ) Did she not understand that Fact as she was telling fans that info ? Of course he would weight "significantly" less than at the time the coroner weighed him before the autopsy.

 

[Ramona122003]

What 20 lbs are you speaking of ???
136 - 127 = 9lbs .. He weighed 127 in Feb and he could have gained well over 10 lbs easy during March... April .. May.. Before the heavy rehearsals and before Murray started treating him. Karen said it was only the last 2 weeks they noticed a significant deteriation in his health and weight. She said it happened so fast. If you seen his costumes in person from various tours you would see he was always "VERY" thin. That was normal for him.

I would also like to clarify something that Ivy touched on that has been bothering me for a long time.
The weight karen Faye mentioned from the mortition was "WEEKS AFTER" the autopsy. (his body was more a less a shell minus body fluids and organs ) Did she not understand that Fact as she was telling fans that info ? Of course he would weight "significantly" less than at the time the coroner weighed him before the autopsy.

Bonnie was making fun of fans who seem to believe that the coroner was working with AEG/Sony and added weight on Michael.

I also want to add that Michael could had lost weight during the last two weeks for many reasons. For someone of Michael's frame, him losing 2-5lbs would had been very noticeable.

 

[Bonnie Blue]

^^ Thanks ramona for explaining. Actually sadly, it was only semi a joke, that is the type of reasoning some people are going for in their efforts to make out mj was at death's door before 25th june.

 

[adrianmonk]

I just wanted to throw out there that my first impression of why there was a weight difference was hydration state... upon autopsy he was likely VERY hydrated, given the amount of fluids CM allegedly gave him, and backed up by the 500 mL of urine present (which itself would weigh over a pound!). Plus were any fluids hooked up in the ambulance/ER at all? Michael could have easily been dehydrated here and overhydrated at autopsy. Didn't he say himself that he could lose 10 lb via dehydration just from rehearsing?

Also, if I were to believe a scale, it would definitely be the coroner's.

 

[chanel05]

I will say that even though I find it hard to believe he gained weight, unless it was in muscle (according to Lou F. they were working out together). I also agree that he has never been a large guy and he is small framed. Even in his bigger days he was still slim for the average man. But I will say im not one of those conspiracy theorist who believes that its a coverup or some crap...

but I will like to ask, have anybody in this thread seen him person during that time period?? pictures can be deceiving

 

[MJnVA]

I would say that the coroners weight is correct. All equipment in a coroners lab is calibrated because of cases like this. I'll bet you that all the calibration records were submitted when the report was submitted to the DA. Most equipment used to measure things in a lab are calibrated once a year.

Doctor's office??

Could he have gained 9 lbs, yes.

 

[Naturelle]

To me M seemed heavest during, WMCIG, 2001. But that was on video. I saw him in person in Japan 2007 he was svelte and gorgeous. I know for sure he didin't appear to be on drugs either!