Dr. Conrad Murray Attends Church in Houston, Crying

[FUJON]

Oh, and it's really cute how he's crying and going to church now, wanting to have people feel sorry for him, while he's also complaining that he didn't get paid for caring for the man he killed! :doh:

it's all looks like he just trying to find the sympathy, to have supporters :mello:
his major worry in his head now what will happen next to him. he is crying cuz he feel sorry for himself that he is ended up in such a sh*t.
i even don't think he really feel sorry for Michael.

 

[butterflies]

Ok, you guys are gonna be made at me, but think this for one second...

it was Michael who give him permission to administrate all the drugs to help him sleep...

Please don´t kill me but its true, the only one who had the power to decide that was Michael, i know, i know that Mike had a very sad and difficult life, and im always sad for that, but there was another ways to get over those problems and drugs never be one of them.

I still LOVE Michael, but he dissapoint me a little for use drugs to try to make go away the problems, maybe he has a real sleep problem beyond our understanding, but may be it was just the addiction, we never gonna know what was it, because we never met him personally...PLEASE, PLEASE, don't take it over me.

I'm about to cry right now, because i know that some of you won't understand me, but that's what i think. Please before to judge, try understand me...

Michael wasn't using drugs to get high. If he was, he'd use strong painkillers. He wanted sleep. He was stressed out, and when you have insomnia, it's miserable. None of us understand how much he was worried about. He didn't know how dangerous it was, and I'm sure he was probably reassured to have a doctor there who he thought could take care of him. The doctor didn't do his job, what he did was ILLEGAL, and he was negligent. He didn't even do CPR right!
I wish people would stop feeling sorry for the guy. Anyone can fake tears, esp. when they know how much people hate them and they want sympathy. He was just complaining the other day about not getting paid, and now he's crying?! People say "Oh, he's human, he has feelings. I'm sure he feels guilty." Really??? Just because you would doesn't mean he does. He might, but we don't know. MAYBE he's crying for himself because he has no money, and he's SCARED he will have to go to jail! Ever think of that??? I'm sure it has nothing to do with Michael. I don't care if he does feel guilty because he should! He is responsible for what happened. I don't even care if he was put up to it; he had a choice, and he did it. He deserves to be punished. If he were to confess and say that he feels so guilty that he voluntarily turns himself in and says he wants to go to prison, then I might feel differently toward him. As of now, I think he's only feeling sorry for himself.
As for crying, I can't tell you how many hours of how many days over all these months that I've cried and cried and cried. Then cried some more. I felt miserable and devastated, and so did Michael's children, his family, his friends and his other fans. Who cares if murray is sad??? JOIN THE FREAKIN CLUB!!

 

[LauraLovesMJ]

I don't believe that Murray is an evil man. I believe he is an idiot who screwed up and his stupidity led to someone's death. He knows that too. It's like when people drink and drive. Imagine if you had a couple of drinks one day and you hit a pedestrian. Does that make you stupid? yes. Does that make you irresponsible? Yes. Should you be held accountable? Yes. But it doesn't mean you're an evil person. I'm sure you'd be crying too if you knew that because you had gotten yourself drunk, acted stupid and wild and got someone killed as a result. And I'm sure if that happened you'd give anything to go back in time and take back what you did. I guess Murray is feeling that way now.

Excellent post Steph. Acknowledging how he must feel does not excuse what he did in any way. He caused us all a great deal of pain. But yes, he's still human.

He made a terrible, terrible mistake. He'll have to live with that the rest of his life, as well he should, but that is going to be hard. It's something of a death sentence itself.

Make no mistake, I'd like to see him swing for killing Michael, but I also ask myself how *I* would feel if I royally screwed up like that. Killing another person unintentionally is something we could all do by mistake, (in a car,) and you wouldn't even have to be drunk. You could just be distracted for a split second and something could happen. BOOM!

You just never know.

 

[butterflies]

Remember that video months ago where he was really scared cause he had gotten threatening messages?! He didn't even mention Michael once. He is crying becuse his career and life will be over, but he doesn't care about MJ at all. If he did we wouldn't be in this situation. He only used Michael for cash, and now he's playing the victim, just like the rest of the scumbags in Michael's life.

Thank you! Exactly!

 

[dangerous_88]

You work for LAPD?

you're Murray?

 

[oldmoon20]

:no:

I can't feel sorry for that man. If he thinks he's going through a hard time he should see how Michael's children are doing. He knows what he did, and I'm not going to give him any pity.

 

[butterflies]

Ha! Some of the comments in this thread....

Anyway, all of my mercy for those who have committed wrongdoing against Michael Jackson -- whether intentionally or unintentionally -- died on June 25 2009.

"Only god can judge him?" Nah. If that were the case, why would we even need local, state or federal laws? I won't put this all on God. A "man" committed this act and he should be held accountable in his lifetime by "man".

There may be some serious suspicions on the side of the police that Murray was not acting alone in this case, for all we know. I'm not ready (yet) to jump on the cops. (...I said 'yet')

Murray isn't innocent until proven guilty. He has already admitted to giving Mike the medication that ended his life. This isn't an allegation where there is one person's word against another person's.

There is irrefutable evidence that a man is dead. There is irrefutable evidence that the person who gave him the medication that killed him admitted to doing so. The problem is (1) figuring out to what extent they can hold him responsible for the act and (2) the cops (i hope) want to make sure there are no loopholes or technicalities which would let him get out of being held responsible for this.

A person can only be tried ONE time for the murder of a specific human being. If they mess this up, they will literally have millions of people around the world in a fury over their screw up.

In the spirit of Michael Jackson?.... The spirit of Michael Jackson always sought out justice, fairness and responsibility. These are all the things Murray is try to avoid.

If he wants someone to extend the courtesy of 'the benefit of the doubt' -- something so thoroughly withheld from the very person he killed -- he should ask for mercy from Michael Jackson himself. He damn sure ain't gettin it from me.

I also agree that there's no way he's cried more than we did on June 25, 26,27... All of July.. All of August... All of September... All of October... November...20, 21, 22, 23... 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012...

Its over. This is it. Literally. There will be no more MJ eras. No more fantastical videos sparked from whatever Mike's imagination would have come up with next year, or the year after that, or the year after that. He won't be able to use technologies yet to be created, he won't be able to sing songs yet to be thought of, he won't be able to walk his daughter down the aisle, or talk to his sons about being discriminating in choosing the right person to spend the rest of their lives with.

The amount of things which have been wiped out is immeasurable. So he can cry like the b_tch he is in front of all the cameras he wants. His tears don't mean anything in comparison.

:clapping::yes: This post says it all and in a very polite way. No one can say that you are being UNFAIR to poor murray. Excellent post, and I completely agree! I hope everyone reads this.

 

[Erikmjfan]

very good post whisper, a voice of sanity

 

[Memefan]

The doctor is in. Heaven help the patients.
The increasingly cash-strapped Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson's infamous MD and the doctor at the center of authorities' still-pending investigation into the pop icon's death, returned to work Friday.
"Because of a deteriorating financial condition and prompting by many of his beloved patients, on Nov. 20, 2009, Dr. Conrad Murray resumed his cardiology practice in Houston, Texas," Murray's attorney, Ed Chernoff, said.
And he's wasting no time in expanding his services to the full scope of his former clientele.
"Dr. Murray plans to attend to patients in both Las Vegas and Houston. His decision to first return to practice in Houston was made because of the greater need these low-income patients have for his services and the prohibitive cost of reopening his clinic in Las Vegas."
And if you think people may be hesitant to get treated by the doctor who may or, slightly less likely, may not have had anything to do with Jackson's death, well, think again.

According to Chernoff, Murray saw 16 patients at his Houston offices on Friday. He plans to see just six or seven today, due to the attention his practice is now receiving.
It's his first time resuming office hours since April, when he suspended his practice to take on the full-time (and unexpectedly temporary) role of Jackson's personal physician.
Meanwhile, over the weekend, Murray, along with several dozen of his media friends, attended services at Houston's Galilee Missionary Baptist Church Sunday.
"I'm taking my life back step by step, and I wanted to come home and this is my home," the sunglass-wearing doc said after standing up to address the congregation. And cameras.
"And therefore, I am back to serve. This isn't easy for me. Mentally, it's tough."
As for that rapidly dwindling back account, Chernoff said that while Murray was supposed to receive $150,000 per month under Jackson's employ, he was never paid for his services.
Can't imagine why.

He is doing PR...Did he even address the Jackson family? What a disgrace!!!!

 

[Rockin.]

This!

I don't really believe that Murray is calculating and cold hearted murderer like that of Charles Manson or anything. His actions are inexcusable and abhorrent, but overall it is my opinion that he did not come into contact with Michael to harm him. I do not believe that he is a fundamentally bad man. I believe he is a STUPID man, a criminally stupid man, who made bad decisions and must now face the harsh consequences of his actions while justice is served - as we all must.

Excellent post Steph. Acknowledging how he must feel does not excuse what he did in any way. He caused us all a great deal of pain. But yes, he's still human.

Along with what I said in my post, this pretty much sums it up for me.

And its not about saying 'poor murray, poor murray' at all.

 

[Kieran1]

I don't know if conrad murray killed Michael... but i know we shouldn't see him as guilty before he's been to court etc.

You've just got to see what happened with Michael in the court case etc. that shows you shouldn't cast someone as guilty before all the facts come out! If you are saying Murray is guilty you are just like the press who were saying that about Michael!

 

[Em_Mj]

I just can't believe he even passed as a doctor! GOD Did he get training what so ever? If MJ was tired, why give him something which would kill him!! I dont understand. DID Michael know what Murray was giving him? What happened that afternoon!! I wanna know !! we all do. we want ANSWERS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ¬_¬ HOW.LONG.DO.WE.HAVE.TO.WAIT.

 

[michaels wendy bird]

I don't know if conrad murray killed Michael... but i know we shouldn't see him as guilty before he's been to court etc.

You've just got to see what happened with Michael in the court case etc. that shows you shouldn't cast someone as guilty before all the facts come out! If you are saying Murray is guilty you are just like the press who were saying that about Michael!

Okay i respect your opinion but how can you call people (which includes myself) as bad as the press because they refuse to say "Conrad Murray is innocent untill proven guilty" Conrad Murray has admitted to giving Michael the drug that killed him!!!! How can you not understand this??

 

[Rockin.]

I just can't believe he even passed as a doctor! GOD Did he get training what so ever? If MJ was tired, why give him something which would kill him!! I dont understand. DID Michael know what Murray was giving him? What happened that afternoon!! I wanna know !! we all do. we want ANSWERS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ¬_¬ HOW.LONG.DO.WE.HAVE.TO.WAIT.

Yes he was a trained cardiologist.. :/

This is what we have been told - he gave him propofol, which Michael wanted, had been using for some weeks and had used previously. It wouldn't have killed him if he was administering it properly, had the machines, hadn't left the room etc.

I think its good that we are waiting.. surely that means they are investigating hard and not leaving any loopholes (i hope).

Look guys there are obvious things we've heard that murray did wrong, he can't get away scott free. At the least its negligence.

Memefan, i cant quote the quote in your post.. but i can't believe he is being let back to work, bit strange seen as he is being investigated for the death of his patient...isn't there a rule against that?

 

[butterflies]

murray did something illegal, he was also negligent and someone died because of it. We know these things for a fact. He isn't innocent when we already know he's guilty. It isn't a matter of "he said, she said" either. murray did do those things, and he did try to hide and cover things up and lie afterward too. Regardless of anything else, does he not belong in jail?? This is a question for those of you who are feeling sorry for him and saying the "innocent until proven guilty" stuff.

The law is not perfect. Sometimes people who are innocent are found guilty. Sometimes people who are guilty get away with it. Why do people make it seem as though through a court of law is the only way to know if someone is innocent or not? We can go by factual information that we already know and come to our own conclusions. If there are no facts or we have no information to go on, then that is what a trial is really for. To present the facts to come to a conclusion. We already have enough facts about murray, do we not? It isn't just speculation or one person's word against another's. Then it would be hard to say.

Also, people say we should be like Michael. Well, I do agree for the most part, but Michael trusting so many people, giving people the benefit of the doubt, feeling sympathy for people, wanting to believe that there's good in everyone caused Michael a lot of grief, pain and problems. Things wouldn't have turned out for him the way they did if he hadn't been that way. Then again, I know that Michael wouldn't have had so much love and people admiring and looking up to him if he hadn't been the way he was either.
I think Michael just wanted to believe that people were good overall, but the fact is, they're not. For the most part people are selfish, and murray does a good job of proving that. He did something illegal for MONEY. Michael didn't approve of such a thing. He was disgusted by that. Remember his song with that title? murray did something wrong, and then he lied about it and tried to cover it up. Then he's tried to do PR to save his own skin. He made that obvious with his recent comments about not having any money and now being back at work. He had to know the cameras were there and was putting on a show to get publicity and sympathy. I am a sympathetic person, and I've been used and walked on because of being taken advantage of, but when it comes to him, I can see right through it. I DO NOT feel sympathy for people who keep doing things wrong and then just try to get away with it and avoid punishment.

 

[Kieran1]

Okay i respect your opinion but how can you call people (which includes myself) as bad as the press because they refuse to say "Conrad Murray is guilty" Conrad Murray has admitted to giving Michael the drug that killed him!!!! How can you not understand this??

I think i put that badly! To be honest i think Conrad Murray did kill Michael... but it's hard to know if there's more to this than meets the eye, stuff we're not hearing and isn't being revealed...

 

[Em_Mj]

:| I cant take it. I can't believe we are discussing what/who KILLED Michael. I still can't accept he's gone!! It's not fair. This would've been the best year of my life. It's been the worse.. wow I miss him

 

[LauraLovesMJ]

I just can't believe he even passed as a doctor! GOD Did he get training what so ever? If MJ was tired, why give him something which would kill him!!

This is my biggest beef with Murray too...that he was giving MJ such a dangerous drug to begin with...which if you turn away for a few minutes could cause death. And it appears that this is exactly what happened. There was no room for a mistake. Murray should've known that and acted accordingly, (watching Michael like a hawk.) Just like if I'm driving down the street going 100 mph (which I shouldn't be doing in the first place, BUT...) then I KNOW I need to keep my eyes peeled for trouble and keep my senses even more heightened.

Some of the "experts" here claim that propofol is a safe drug. Um, maybe in a HOSPITAL setting, but not in the middle of the night, in a home setting, with no backup.

 

[Autumn II]

I really hope the "innocent until proven guilty" trend here goes away soon? And also the analogies to Michael? Michael proclaimed innocence, and he WAS innocent. Murray has never claimed that he didn't do something that caused Michael's death. It's different.

Murray gave the police statements that he administered the propofol. He already SAID it, and has never said that he didn't. His statements appear on the various search-warrants. . which are legal documents.

One thing that remains to be done is to charge Murray of whichever level of homicide it will turn out to be. That he is guilty of doing something TO Michael is obvious. . unless things turn out to be vastly different than originally stated. .by MURRAY?

I know a lot of you are expecting the facts to come out in a trial? I wouldn't bet on it. I think it's more likely than not that Murray will plea-bargain for a reduced sentence. When his sentence is over, he'll write a book. Watch for it. . . .

 

[Rockin.]

I really hope the "innocent until proven guilty" trend here goes away soon? And also the analogies to Michael? Michael proclaimed innocence, and he WAS innocent. Murray has never claimed that he didn't do something that caused Michael's death. It's different.

Murray gave the police statements that he administered the propofol. He already SAID it, and has never said that he didn't. His statements appear on the various search-warrants. . which are legal documents.

One thing that remains to be done is to charge Murray of whichever level of homicide it will turn out to be. That he is guilty of doing something TO Michael is obvious. . unless things turn out to be vastly different than originally stated. .by MURRAY?

This is true, there are obvious things murray did wrong.

I know a lot of you are expecting the facts to come out in a trial? I wouldn't bet on it. I think it's more likely than not that Murray will plea-bargain for a reduced sentence. When his sentence is over, he'll write a book. Watch for it. . . .

I hope this is not true.

I'd have thought he'd want to distance himself completely from michael's death. I can't see anyone who'd want to buy it either.

 

[Sirena]

I hope he cries a river when he's hauled off to prison.

Murray has blood on his hands, MICHAEL's blood.

 

[mjjfan4ever]

I know a lot of you are expecting the facts to come out in a trial? I wouldn't bet on it. I think it's more likely than not that Murray will plea-bargain for a reduced sentence. When his sentence is over, he'll write a book. Watch for it. . . .

Sad but I think you are correct

 

[jenny*]

innocent untill proven quilty.

But his tears don,t even come close to the tears the world is pledging for michael........
It doesn,t affect me at all to see him cry.
it even makes me a little bit angry....

 

[Dr.Feelgood]

Did you not watch the news the past 5 months?? A man is DEAD, and he died in the hands of the man you obviously have a lot of sympathy for. Three children are ORPHANED, and this man hasnt even expressed he's sorry.

not to forget my life is a complete mess now and it is all because of that MF

 

[Kingofpop4ever3000]

The only way for Murray to make a plea-bargain that I can see is if there were other people involved in this behind the scenes and he gives them up. I'm not convinced there were any such people based on what we've heard. It would be interesting. But unlikely IMO.

 

[kasume]

I just can't believe he even passed as a doctor! GOD Did he get training what so ever? If MJ was tired, why give him something which would kill him!! I dont understand. DID Michael know what Murray was giving him? What happened that afternoon!! I wanna know !! we all do. we want ANSWERS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ¬_¬ HOW.LONG.DO.WE.HAVE.TO.WAIT.

We don't even know if Michael really asked for the propofol. It turns out, Nurse Lee really ISN'T a medical doctor. So there is ONE lie she is caught in. And there is no proof that phone call was even made.

And by the amount of drugs found in Michael's system before given the propofol, which was enough to take down an entire bull elephant, how could he still be conscious and ask for more??

 

[MJfan10]

I hope he cries a river when he's hauled off to prison.

Murray has blood on his hands, MICHAEL's blood.

I agree.

 

[Kirshach]

I still can't understand why do you only blame Murray...
Why don't you look deeper?

 

[zouzou2]

I really hope the "innocent until proven guilty" trend here goes away soon? And also the analogies to Michael? Michael proclaimed innocence, and he WAS innocent. Murray has never claimed that he didn't do something that caused Michael's death. It's different.

Murray gave the police statements that he administered the propofol. He already SAID it, and has never said that he didn't. His statements appear on the various search-warrants. . which are legal documents.

One thing that remains to be done is to charge Murray of whichever level of homicide it will turn out to be. That he is guilty of doing something TO Michael is obvious. . unless things turn out to be vastly different than originally stated. .by MURRAY?

I know a lot of you are expecting the facts to come out in a trial? I wouldn't bet on it. I think it's more likely than not that Murray will plea-bargain for a reduced sentence. When his sentence is over, he'll write a book. Watch for it. . . .

Thank you for putting it so clearly!

Also, he administered other drugs before the propofol that night, including lorazepam. Moreover, he administered propofol in completely the wrong setting, for the wrong purpose and with not the appropriate equipment on hand (or team). Besides, he's a cardiologist not an anaesthetist, so it's painfully obvious that there is medical malpractice and some level of homicide as you put it, since he will have known from his medical training that doing what he was doing was putting his patient's life at great risk.

And I don't accept the idea (i've seen elsewhere) that he became complacent because he'd done it before and all had been fine. He probably did become complacent but there is no place for complacency in medicine! So it's no excuse whatsoever.

We don't need a court of law or a trial to know any of that. But a trial with the right outcome would be the best (not holding my breath though).

 

[Autumn II]

The only way for Murray to make a plea-bargain that I can see is if there were other people involved in this behind the scenes and he gives them up. I'm not convinced there were any such people based on what we've heard. It would be interesting. But unlikely IMO.

It's possible he'll be offered to take a guilty plea to avoid the county expense of a trial. He's already gone on-record admitting giving the propofol, and the official cause of death was "acute propofol intoxication."

Certainly they must have all the information they need on Murray, so it seems likely that they are investigating other people, given the time it's taken. I'd imagine Klein is in that mix, too. I just hope it's resolved soon . . . .