[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

[HIStory]

Like I said it is one of those questions there is no ifs andor buts. Were you in the shower withhim? No. Did he show you porn? No. Not only changing your answer but totallyacting like you never said it? Nah dudeacting like it&#8217;s not there does not take it away<o></o>

Yes. I know they will try to bagatellize everything he said at the trial and say that he didn't know it was abuse/wrong/he was brainwashed bla-bla-bla, but that's just not so simple and what he said cannot be overlooked. You were a grown man and you were under oath. And you were asked very exact questions. Not just some vague one. There is nothing ambigious about a question like "Have you ever been in the shower with Mr. Jackson?"or "Has MJ ever grabbed your crotch?" Nothing to not understand about it. If you did not think it was wrong then why didn't you answer "Yeah, we were in the shower/he grabbed my crotch but I don't think there's anything wrong with that". Your claim is now that you did not think such things were wrong. So if they weren't wrong in your mind then why did you feel the need to supposedly "lie" about those? Oh, because MJ told you so? And when he allegedly asked you to lie about such things under oath and perjure yourself it still did not ring a bell that it might be something wrong after all? It's just such a crazy messed up story that he is trying to sell.

And you know his claim is not even that MJ asked him to lie, but this:

Supposedly MJ told him "They are making up all these lies about you and I, saying that we did all this disgusting stuff. They are trying to take away this and that and we gotta fight them together."

Like I said before this doesn't even make sense in this context. If you were molested by this man why would he tell you this is all lies? And if he brainwashed you into thinking it's love then why would he tell you it's disgusting sexual stuff? And how was that supposed to coach you into lying about the shower, the crotch grab and everything? When you supposedly did not know it was abuse and wrong?

Such a mess.

 

[dannyboy72]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

So it really isn't about the late claim and they really got nothing. They're going to use Francia's false claims about seeing underwears on the bedroom\bathroom floor and about Michael being in the shower with a "smaller figure" when she can't even put Wade in the scene for sure. I think it's very weak.

Speaking of Tmez I wish he'd stop acting like a baby because I think he should be called to testify against these people.

This is why MJ called Wade and told him "They are making up all these lies about you and I. Saying we did all these disgusting sexual stuff"

 

[HIStory]

Now the story is being circulated in the media - along with that fake $200 million to 20 victims claim being rehashed. Actually I think this is the goal now with this. To throw these stories out in the media, keep them circulated and put pressure on the Estate with negative publicity. Because otherwise I cannot see how this relates to the statutes of limitations.

April 10, 2015

Michael Jackson sex accuser Wade Robson is heating up his attempt to win a lawsuit against the late singer&#8217;s estate. The choreographer and alleged Jackson sex victim wants testimony from the late singer&#8217;s 2005 molestation trial admitted as evidence in his claim against the King of Pop&#8217;s estate &#8212; including claims from a housekeeper that she saw him and Jackson showering together.

Executors of the estate had argued inlegal documents that the testimony Michael Jackson housekeeper Blanca Francia had given at the 2005 molestation trial was inadmissible hearsay and character evidence.

Robson&#8217;s lawyer&#8217;s have since responded with the original transcript of Francia&#8217;s testimony, in which she claimed to have witnessed Jackson in the shower with Wade, who was a young child at the time.

According to the legal documents, &#8220;On one occasion, Fran entered Jackson&#8217;s bedroom and heard sounds of laughter and playing around- At first she thought the sounds might have been coming from the garden outside Jackson&#8217;s bedroom, but then she peeked through open door to Jackson&#8217;s personal bathroom and realized the sounds were coming from the shower in the bathroom. She saw two pairs of underwear laying on the floornext to the shower and recognized them as Jackson&#8217;s and Robson&#8217;s.&#8221;

&#8220;The water was running in the shower and Francia heard the radio playing. Francia heard two voices for about a minute which she recognized as Jackson&#8217;s and Robson&#8217;s,&#8221; the documents state.

The housekeeper also testified at the 2005 molestation trial of witnessing Jackson and Robson watching television in the singer&#8217;s bed, nude, from the waist up.

During visits Robson made to Neverland as a child in the early 90&#8217;s, the boy&#8217;s mother would stay in a guest house while her son stayed in Jackson&#8217;s master bedroom in the main house. The visits would last for &#8220;weeks at a time,&#8221; Francia claimed in her testimony.
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Wade Robson has been pursuing a case against the late Michael Jackson, accusing the former King of Pop of abuse. And now it appears that Robson might just have gotten some help, from the man who once tried to bring down Jackson when he was alive.

Santa Barbara Deputy Assistant District Attorney, Ron Zonen has handed over all of his files about his investigation of sexual abuse charges against Jackson to one of Jackson's accusers, Robson.


Zonen subpoenaed Robson&#8217;s attorneys to hand over documents pertaining to alleged sexual assaults by Jackson. Zonen was forced to hand over information that included, &#8220;the voluminous documents produced in response included were witness statement of Blanca Francia (Jackson&#8217;s maid) taken by SBSD on October 4, 1993 in connection with the criminal investigation.&#8221;

Robson is hoping the statements and information contained in these documents could aid his own case against Jackson. But how?

&#8220;Evidence that prosecutors were barred from presenting will be disclosed as it will be a civil case not a criminal one.&#8221;

Sources have added, &#8220;All of this is documented, and it will certainly help to sway a jury, particularly a civil jury who is not considering reasonable doubt but a preponderance of the evidence.&#8221;

All of this comes at the same time that lawyers have alleged that Jackson &#8220;forked out nearly $200 million to as many as 20 victims,&#8221; according to Fox News.

Robson is joined by James Safechuck in bringing a civil case against Jackson&#8217;s estate. Both have accused Jackson of molesting them repeatedly.

Another thing that Jackson&#8217;s accusers will be able to present in their civil case that wasn&#8217;t originally allowed in Zonen&#8217;s criminal case is just how much he did pay out.

&#8220;The judge, behind closed doors, refused to allow prosecutors to reveal the cash ***** was paying out.&#8221;

A source has stated that these documents being allowed in a civil case could be a real &#8220;eye opener&#8221; for anyone who thought that Michael Jackson &#8220;was some real-life Peter Pan.&#8221;

http://www.inquisitr.com/1998250/mi...bson-gets-access-to-all-of-prosecutors-files/

 

[Justthefacts]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

none of this is going to help you wade

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

none of this is going to help you wade

It really seems they upped their media game though. This is all about creating a constant media circus around this, constant negative publicity and trying to force the Estate to settle.

 

[Justthefacts]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Oh yeah I agree. But you know. As pointed out folks already have their minds made up about Michael one way or the other. So this neg PR trip they are on isfruitless. Now more than ever I thinkthe estate found something out because they are really desperate

 

[Soundmind]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Their cases are waaaaay weaker than that of the Arvizos. The more filings they make the weaker their cases get.

 

[Justthefacts]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I agree

 

[jaydom7]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Now the story is being circulated in the media - along with that fake $200 million to 20 victims claim being rehashed. Actually I think this is the goal now with this. To throw these stories out in the media, keep them circulated and put pressure on the Estate with negative publicity. Because otherwise I cannot see how this relates to the statutes of limitations.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1998250/mi...bson-gets-access-to-all-of-prosecutors-files/

The 'inquisitir'??? what is that? has to be a tabloid right? and once again this has nothing to do with the statute of limitations.

 

[jaydom7]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Oh yeah I agree. Butyou know. As pointed out folks already have their minds made up about Michael one way or the other. So this neg PR trip they are on isfruitless. Now more than ever I thinkthe estate found something out because they are really desperate

Very desperate indeed.. and the fact that Wade sited Francia's testimony but not his own where he answered very detailed and specific questions says a lot.. How did he not know what a shower is and if he took one with MJ??? that's a specific question to which he answered 'never took a shower with him''.. That has nothing to do with not realizing or being brainwashed at all.

 

[HIStory]

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The 'inquisitir'??? what is that? has to be a tabloid right? and once again this has nothing to do with the statute of limitations.

Yes, I agree. It just makes it clear to me why these things are being thrown in by Robson's camp at this phase. The media needs salacious stories to report on. They will not report about dry legal back and forth about statutes. But claim anal rape, claim someone saw you shower with MJ - that guarantees the press coverage.

If the media was fair they would not only rehash Blanca Francia's claims in these articles but also that Robson denied these back in 2005. And that his recent turnaround is coming with a demand for money.

 

[Soundmind]

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The 'inquisitir'??? what is that? has to be a tabloid right? and once again this has nothing to do with the statute of limitations.

a website that is so much obsessed with MJ to the point of dedicating an article to each and every small mention of him or his kids on the internet whether negative or positive with zero creativity - copy paste at its worst.

 

[jaydom7]

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Yes, I agree. It just makes it clear to me why these things are being thrown in by Robson's camp at this phase. The media needs salacious stories to report on. They will not report about dry legal back and forth about statutes. But claim anal rape, claim someone saw you shower with MJ - that guarantees the press coverage.

If the media was fair they would not only rehash Blanca Francia's claims in these articles but also that Robson denied these back in 2005. And that his recent turnaround is coming with a demand for money.

They are not fair and have never been fair to Michael. They know Francia was desecrated on the witness stand and they also know that she was paid by tabloids. They are very well aware of Wade's under oath testimony and they have access to it..

 

[Soundmind]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I've just read that a basketball player believes Chris Brown is "WAY MORE TALENTED" than Michael Jackson . We have to accept that many in this world are hopeless cases, stupid beyond our imagination and the media counts on them to make profits.

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

What can be said that hasn't been said already in 2005? These Francia stories are rehashed for 22 years like most of they things they're going to use against the estate in court or in the media. The only thing that's new in this case is the rape claims and the media didn't give a damn about it. If Francia is one of their big weapons they probably have nothing.

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

It shows Robson has nothing to recurre to stories other people claimed about him but were already proven lies. I hope the judge notices that.

 

[barbee0715]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Yes. I know they will try to bagatellize everything he said at the trial and say that he didn't know it was abuse/wrong/he was brainwashed bla-bla-bla, but that's just not so simple and what he said cannot be overlooked. You were a grown man and you were under oath. And you were asked very exact questions. Not just some vague one. .

and when they did ask an ambiguous question, Wade himself corrected them and got specific.

Inquisitir is just a new tabloid website. They run a Michael story or two every day.

 

[HIStory]

And let me tell you one another observation about Blanca Francia that I always found very odd and suspicious. Remember those two art books that had some nude kids in them that were found in 1993? Detective Ferrufino testified in 2005 about how they were found and look:

2 Q. All right. And is that file cabinet

3 depicted in that photograph?

4 A. Yes, it is.

5 Q. How many drawers in that file cabinet?

6 A. Four.

7 Q. In which drawer were those two books seized,

8 from which drawer?

9 A. From the third drawer.

10 Q. Was that file cabinet locked?

11 A. Yes, it was.

12 Q. How were you able to unlock it?

13 A. We were able to get the key from -- the maid

14 brought the key over to the home and we were able to

15 unlock it at that time.

16 Q. Do you remember which maid that was?

17 A. I believe it was Blanca Francia.

18 Q. Thank you. Is that photograph -- does that

19 photograph accurately depict the subject matter

20 contained within it?

21 A. Yes, it does.

And later Zonen:

1 MR. ZONEN: If the Court would like, yes.

2 Just briefly, Your Honor, the books that

3 were seized in 1993 were seized at a time that was

4 contemporaneous with the evidence presented pursuant

5 to 1108. There were four young boys who were

6 involved in Michael Jackson&#8217;s life. It&#8217;s

7 interesting and unique that the maid who was called

8 to open up this file cabinet was, in fact, the

9 mother of one of those victims at that time.

Why is this strange? Well, because the search took place on August 21, 1993. Blanca Francia has not worked for Michael since 1991...

So why was she called to open that cabinet? How and why she still had the keys to that after leaving employment for more than 2 years? How did the police know she had the keys to that particular file cabinet? Why didn't they just break into that file cabinet like they did during the search in 2003? This is just very strange to me. Something smells about this story to me.

 

[Soundmind]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

And let me tell you one another observation about Blanca Francia that I always found very odd and suspicious. Remember those two art books that had some nude kids in them that were found in 1993? Detective Ferrufino testified in 2005 about how they were found and look:



And later Zonen:




Why is this strange? Well, because the search took place on August 21, 1993. Blanca Francia has not worked for Michael since 1991...

So why was she called to open that cabinet? How and why she still had the keys to that after leaving employment for more than 2 years? How did the police know she had the keys to that particular file cabinet? Why didn't they just break into that file cabinet like they did during the search in 2003? This is just very strange to me. Something smells about this story to me.

to this day, I cant believe why Mez did not make a huge buzz of this revelation. I could not believe my eyes when I first read the detective testimony. There is NO DOUBT in my mind that the books were put in that cabinet and locked deliberately so they would be found in that place by the police. There is no other reasonable explanation.

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I didn't remember Blanca stopped working for Michael in 1991. Does it mean that detective and/or the prosecution fabricated that story?

 

[HIStory]

to this day, I cant believe why Mez did not make a huge buzz of this revelation. I could not believe my eyes when I first read the detective testimony. There is NO DOUBT in my mind that the books were put in that cabinet and locked deliberately so they would be found in that place by the police. There is no other reasonable explanation.

And you know this is where Blanca Francia's Victor Gutierrez connection comes into the picture. I think we can be glad that something incriminating was not planted on Michael.

After Gutierrez visited the conference of the &#8220;suspect organization&#8221; (NAMBLA) in 1986, the 2006 GQ article states, he started to &#8220;strike up friendships&#8221; with some of Jackson&#8217;s employees:

&#8220;For the next five years Gutierrez tracked down as many of Jackson&#8217;s current and former associates as he could. Being Latino himself helped &#8211; it was relatively easy for him to strike up friendships with Jackson&#8217;s El Salvadorean maid, Blanca Francia, who left Jackson&#8217;s employment in 1991, and the star&#8217;s Costa Rican PA (personal assistant), Orietta Murdock, who sued him for unfair dismissal in 1992.&#8221; [5]
​

Again we read that after that NAMBLA conference, where pedophiles express the wish that Jackson become one of them, a celebrity poster boy as a &#8220;hope for social acceptance&#8221; [7] of pedophilia, Gutierrez goes on a mission and strikes up friendships with some of Jackson&#8217;s employees. The same employees who would later make allegations against the star.

http://michaeljacksonallegations.co...e-in-the-allegations-against-michael-jackson/


If it goes to court I hope the Estate will look deeper into this whole Gutierrez issue.

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I didn't remember Blanca stopped working for Michael in 1991. Does it mean that detective and/or the prosecution fabricated that story?

I do not know what it means only that it sounds fishy and suspicious and it does not make sense. In case it is true, how did they know Blanca Francia, a maid who left employment more than 2 years before had the key to that file cabinet? And why did she have it? The books were Michael's no denying of that as one of them was inscribed by him, but I wonder if there was some tampering by Blanca with the location they were found (maybe at the request of Gutierrez?). It's just too odd. Unfortunately Blanca Francia was never asked about this story during her testimony by either the prosecution or the defense. She also never claimed to have knowledge or information about these books. So this is just very odd.

 

[Soundmind]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

It means they fabricated the evidence. According to the police story, they used a key-smith to get into MJ's bedroom but stopped short of opening that particular cabinet which turned out to contain the only "incriminating" evidence seized during that raid ; the two infamous books. They preferred to wait for Blanca to arrive at Neverland and bring the keys. It is mind boggling. Zonan is stupid for making that comment but Mez was crazy for missing the opportunity to point out how suspicious everything was.

 

[Soundmind]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I do not know what it means only that it sounds fishy and suspicious and it does not make sense. In case it is true, how did they know Blanca Francia, a maid who left employment more than 2 years before had the key to that file cabinet? And why did she have it? The books were Michael's no denying of that as one of them was inscribed by him, but I wonder if there was some tampering by Blanca with the location they were found (maybe at the request of Gutierrez?). It's just too odd. Unfortunately Blanca Francia was never asked about this story during her testimony by either the prosecution or the defense. She also never claimed to have knowledge or information about these books. So this is just very odd.

If the books were found among MJ's other thousand books the police would not have been able to make a big deal out of them, they would have tried like they did in 2005 with other books but after the jurors heard about the closed book boxes , the untouched books that were seized during the 2005 raid the evidence presented by the prosecutors became insignificant . The fact the haters and the prosecutors have continued to claim that MJ kept only the books which contained nude pictures of boys under lock & key in his own cabinet meant his intentions were perverted could explain why planting such evidence was important to the police or whoever wanted to setup MJ. The books were signed by MJ in1983 ( not quite sure about the year but definitely in the early 1980th) haters keep saying why did he keep them for such long time, why did he move such books to Neverland if he received them from fans in the early 1980th unless he was interested in their "content". It seems the books were with Francia. Why did she have the keys ?How did they know out of all the cabinets in that big house that one had to be opened using a key kept by Francia? what reasonable person would believe that was a coincidence?

 

[Soundmind]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

double post

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

If the books were found among MJ's other thousand books the police would not have been able to make a big deal out of them, they would have tried like with some other books but when the jury were told about the closed boxes , the untouched books that were seized the evidence became insignificant. The fact the haters and the prosecutors have continued to claim that MJ kept only the books which contained nude pictures of boys under lock & key in his own cabinet meant his intentions were perverted could explain why planting such evidence was important to the police or whoever wanted to setup MJ. The books were signed by MJ in1983 ( not quite sure) haters keep saying why did he keep them for such long time, why he did move such books to Neverland if he received them from fans in the early 1980th unless he was interested in their "content". It seems the books were with Francia. Why did she have the keys ?

I agree. I think to plant evidence would have been too risky for the prosecution but I would not put a little tampering past them. With such things as location. Something that no one would notice, not even Michael because frankly, he was a disorganized guy so I bet he had no idea where many of his books were. Actually, on contrary with what haters claim about these books somehow being so important to him, when you know this little detail it turns out that they were not at all important. I mean they were locked up there for more than two year, while Blanca had the key with her and obviously MJ did not miss them during all those more than two years at least.

And Blanca being this universal witness for the prosecution is just a bit too convenient, isn't it? She has the key when needed. She witnesses boys being abused when needed. She realizes her own son was abused when needed...

 

[Soundmind]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I agree. I think to plant evidence would have been too risky for the prosecution but I would not put a little tampering past them. With such things as location. Something that no one would notice, not even Michael because frankly, he was a disorganized guy so I bet he had no idea where many of his books were. Actually, on contrary with what haters claim about these books somehow being so important to him, when you know this little detail it turns out that they were not at all important. I mean they were locked up there for more than two year, while Blanca had the key with her and obviously MJ did not miss them during all those more than two years at least.

And Blanca being this universal witness for the prosecution is just a bit too convenient, isn't it? She has the key when needed. She witnesses boys being abused when needed. She realizes her own son was abused when needed...

I think they hurt their case when they revealed that but they did not have any other choice as it was documented who seized the evidence in 1993 and how. I believe Mez is to blame for failing to address this bombshell at the time. Maybe because Bob Sanger was the one doing the cross.

respect would not you agree with me that unless the police had already some information re that cabinet they would not have waited for Blanca especially since they had a key smith with them who had already opened the main door to them and was helping them access everything in MJ's bedroom? For God's sake how did they know Blanca of all people had the keys , why she did not give it to them in advance. You are so right, she's been indeed their universal witness.

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I think a real pedophile would get bored with two books and would probably buy dozens of them for more than 20 years. They convinently "found" two books in a box which was locked for two years with the help of biased Blanca Francia. The only thing close to incriminating they had. If they could plant more than that they would have and what they did have was not enough.

 

[HIStory]

respect would not you agree with me that unless the police had already some information re that cabinet they would not have waited for Blanca especially since they had a key smith with them who had already opened the main door to them and was helping them access everything in MJ's bedroom? For God's sake how did they know Blanca of all people had the keys , why she did not give it to them in advance. You are so right, she's been indeed their universal witness.

Yes I agree. The first time I read this I was like: "Wait a minute! Blanca Francia of all people? What the heck was she doing there at the search? She has not worked for MJ for more than 2 years at the time." I did not even think about it being a hater argument that those books were locked there, I independently thought there is something fishy about this story. We have seen the footage of the search from 2005. We know how that goes with them having no qualms about breaking into anything they need to. So why the heck would you call some maid that has not worked there for more than 2 years? Why the heck would they wait for her to bring the key over instead of just breaking in? And why the heck did she have and keep that particular key at all? I agree they must have had some information about that cabinet in advance. Or Blanca actually had those books with her and she did not bring the key but rather the books. I would not put it past them. In any case, something really smells about this story, something is not straight here.

And I think besides tabloid money and besides civil trial settlement Blanca might have collected some favours from the police as well. I mean she was a financially struggling illegal immigrant. Easy target for bribery. And we actually have evidence that the prosecution did bribe witnesses. Like Ralph Chacon who asked for a gun permit and money and he got it. And lo and behold he started to "remember" witnessing molestations.

When Chacon and Abdool changed their stories and first came up with claims of improprieties and child molestation, Chacon was deposed by District Attorney, Thomas Sneddon and Detective Russ Birchim for the Chandler case. At the time, Chacon asked Birchim for money to help him relocate his wife. Birchim delivered the money and the gun permit that Chacon had also requested [6]. Jackson&#8217;s lawyer, Thomas Mesereau asked Chacon about it during Jackson&#8217;s 2005 trial. First Chacon said he did not remember but when Mesereau showed him a transcript of his deposition, he slowly acknowledged his prior testimony, stating it &#8220;probably&#8221; happened. When questioned by Sneddon on redirect examination Chacon suddenly remembered everything clearly. However, Sneddon quickly cut him off, stating &#8220;it&#8217;s not important&#8221;.

Q. You indicated that you may have asked Sergeant or now Commander Birchim for money for your wife --
A. Yes, sir.
Q. -- do you recall? Do you remember why that was?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Why was that?
A. Well, my wife&#8217;s sister-in-law had just died, and --
Q. That&#8217;s all right, I&#8217;ll withdraw the question. That&#8217;s okay. It&#8217;s not important. [6]

So no, it is not far fetched that the prosecution gave some favours to these people who then as a "thanks" started to "remember" things and became these universal "witnesses" for whatever they were needed.

 

[myosotis]

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Yes I agree. The first time I read this I was like: "Wait a minute! Blanca Francia of all people? What the heck was she doing there at the search? She has not worked for MJ for more than 2 years at the time." I did not even think about it being a hater argument that those books were locked there, I independently thought there is something fishy about this story. We have seen the footage of the search from 2005. We know how that goes with them having no qualms about breaking into anything they need to. So why the heck would you call some maid that has not worked there for more than 2 years? Why the heck would they wait for her to bring the key over instead of just breaking in? And why the heck did she have and keep that particular key at all? I agree they must have had some information about that cabinet in advance. Or Blanca actually had those books with her and she did not bring the key but rather the books. I would not put it past them. In any case, something really smells about this story, something is not straight here.

And I think besides tabloid money and besides civil trial settlement Blanca might have collected some favours from the police as well. I mean she was a financially struggling illegal immigrant. Easy target for bribery. And we actually have evidence that the prosecution did bribe witnesses. Like Ralph Chacon who asked for a gun permit and money and he got it. And lo and behold he started to "remember" witnessing molestations.

So no, it is not far fetched that the prosecution gave some favours to these people who then as a "thanks" started to "remember" things and became these universal "witnesses" for whatever they were needed.

Or maybe not exactly 'favours'...but 'threats' to deport unless....