[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

[LindavG]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

That's why I was suggesting to not let new members to register. At least until this mess comes to an end.

This could go on for years. It would be ridiculous to discriminate new members that way. Let's judge people based on what they actually post. I think it would actually be a good idea to have this forum open and accessible to everyone. There might be non-fans who are just curious to hear the other side of the story and this is one of the most informative places to get it. Besides, it's not a bad thing for people to pose critical questions sometimes. That's how the most interesting discussions develop and it prepares us for any difficult questions that could be asked by people outside of the fan community. I'm not saying we should open ourselves up to haters or trolls but there's no need to ostracise anyone who might be perceived as being critical at times.

 

[Gold Pants Girl]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Robson screwed himself since that Matt Lawer (sp?) interview saying he never forgot what it was done to him and suddenly he also remembered being raped. And the ones who have bothered to read the transcripts of his testimony will know Zonen asked quite specific/graphic questions about Michael's alleged improper behavior and he always denied any wrong doing.

I've always said this is the key to proving Robson is full of shit. He says he didn't lie on the stand, that he just didn't know that he was being molested, but he was asked very specific questions and denied they happened, so if he didn't know any of that was wrong, why not say that they happened?

 

[GreenEyes]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

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[SarahJ]

So how can he claim he wasn't aware?.... (Sorry if this has already been posted)

7 Q. Do you consider Michael Jackson your friend?

8 A. Yes.

9 Q. Do you consider him a close friend?

10 A. Yes.

11 Q. You’re aware of the allegations in this

12 case, are you not?

13 A. Yes.

14 Q. And are you aware, as you sit here today,

15 that there’s been allegations that Mr. Jackson

16 molested you?

17 A. Yes.

18 Q. Mr. Robson, did Michael Jackson ever molest

19 you at any time?

20 A. Absolutely not.

21 Q. Mr. Robson, did Michael Jackson ever touch

22 you in a sexual way?

23 A. Never, no.

24 Q. Mr. Robson, has Mr. Jackson ever

25 inappropriately touched any part of your body at any

26 time?

27 A. No.

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Pearl Jr. It's mainly what has already been said but hear it from Pearl's mouth. (Ignore all the crazy beLIEver stuff).

Summary:

- Says Gradstein argues that Robson had "compressed memories" until March 2012 and that is the argument with that they try to get around statues of limitations. Pearl does not seem to mistake "repressed memories" for "compressed memories". She does press that yes, that's the word Gradstein used - "compressed memory" and not repressed. So it does not seem to be a mistake on Pearl's part. Apparently that's really what Gradstein argued.

- Says there was a lot of talk about "equitable estoppel" but she did not look up what that means. There was also lot of talk about Probate Code 9103 (which is this: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/cacode/PROB/1/d7/4/3/s9103 )

- Estate argued "we shouldn't be here, all statues have run out, this is ridiculous".

- Gradstein's answer was that Robson "remembered when he remembered" and that before 2012 he was so inprisoned in his mind with these compressed memories and all that he was unable to file.

- Estate also argued they represent the heirs of MJ and not MJ himself. They represent the heir's interests.

- Judge said he would not make a ruling today (on Sept 4.).

- Then there was the topic of discovery. Robson wants access to Neverland search material etc.

- Robson also wants the Estate to admit that they knew of MJ's sexual abuse of children. Weitzman said how we are supposed to know such things? Gradstein answered: What about Jordan Chandler and Gavin Arvizo? They argue because John Branca was MJ's long time attorney he should know something. Weitzman said: in 1993 there was a settlement in which MJ did not admit any guilt and in 2005 he was aquitted, so what are you talking about? We know about past accusations but none of them have been proven.

- They tried to accuse MJ's businesses (I guess she talks about the accusations against MJ's two companies). Judge apparently said he did not understand how they would be responsible and what they have to do with all this, so he kind of tossed that aside. If that is true then I guess it's looking good for the Estate's demurrers.

- In the second video halfways she brings up equitable estoppel again and she says it has to do with the Estate not giving all the information in discovery. Eg. with Robson wanting to get access to Neverland search material and the Estate blocking it.
Well, either she misunderstood it or Gradsein is so desperate that he is trying to use some crazy twisting of equitable estoppel, because equitable estoppel is not about that.

- Estate says they do not want them to get access to NL search material until it's decided if the case can go to court at all.

- When Gradstein used the term "serial pedophile" to describe MJ Weitzman and the other male attorney with him got upset.

- She says she overheard the Estate lawyers mention Mesereau in the hall, but she did not hear what they were talking about regarding him. She just heard the name being mentioned.

 

[Bubs]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

:bugeyed

I just cannot see judge giving green light to this mockery.
He needs to consider that if he gives green light to this, what is going to happen after that? There is going to be line of people claiming, compressed, repressed, or suppressed memories, like already happened with JS.
Secondly, what are the chances that all Michael's so called "victims" suffers from compressed/repressed/suppressed memories.

"When Gradstein used the term "serial pedophile" to describe MJ Weitzman and the other male attorney with him got upset."

Respect, what Weitzman and the other attorney said to Gradstein, or was it mentioned in the video?

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

:bugeyed



Respect, what Weitzman and the other attorney said to Gradstein, or was it mentioned in the video?

It's in the second video @ 9:18.

 

[Bubs]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Omg, I really didn't want to listen it but did anyway and now I regret.

Ivy should have been there, we would have gotten proper take what went on there and what was said.
Now we get some legal stuff colored with MJ is alive stuff and he decided to fake his death in 2005 so he cannot be sued anymore:scratch:

 

[MJresearcher]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

- When Gradstein used the term "serial pedophile" to describe MJ Weitzman and the other male attorney with him got upset.

Wow. He put a huge dent in his credibility right there, this is court, in court, you NEVER report what you can't support. This will come back to bite him!

 

[Justthefacts]

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No one is going to admit that they knew someone was abusing children. So they want John Branca one of the best attorneys out there to admit that he knew children were being abused and did nothing to stop it? Right.

 

[ivy]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

and you didn't believe me when I wrote she said "compressed memories" and "remembered when he remembered".

as for equitable estoppel she didn't know what that was. this was a chat with others - where she's talking and others writing- when she said she didn't know what that is someone sent her a link and she read it and told what she understood. So that part is her understanding - which is wrong

9103 is the late probate claim. both safechuck and wade is trying to get judge to allow them a probate claim - aka 9103 and Estate is arguing against it.


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On a side note : Given how Branca's long work history is being used (or tried to be used) against him I feel it's better if Estate and Weitzman stays silent

 

[Justthefacts]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

So just because he worked with Michael they expect him to to answer that he knew he was molested children.People do things just for show but this is ridiculous

 

[#MJforever57]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Robson screwed himself since that Matt Lawer (sp?) interview saying he never forgot what it was done to him and suddenly he also remembered being raped. And the ones who have bothered to read the transcripts of his testimony will know Zonen asked quite specific/graphic questions about Michael's alleged improper behavior and he always denied any wrong doing.

Agree he sure did. Do you think the ppls will believe him now
because it is all lies nothing every happen to Wade like it was mention if it did happen why did Wade not say something then why wait after Michael is gone.


I don't know what Wade is telling his lawyer but what every it is he will be in for a rude awaking when he find out that Wade is lying this maybe be dismiss i am hoping for that so we can put a end to this.

 

[barbee0715]

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Gradstein knows he's lying. He's just using inflammatory language to get the case to move forward. This is the one crime that no one can stomach or understand so he's using that to further pressure the judge.
I don't really want to watch that video. Did it sound clear that the Estate just flat out wants it dismissed.

 

[Bubs]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

9103 is the late probate claim. both safechuck and wade is trying to get judge to allow them a probate claim - aka 9103 and Estate is arguing against it.

Ivy, if judge allows this case to go forward, what stops other people with suppressed, compressed or repressed memory to put in claims years to come?. All of them can claim the same as Wade that somehow MJ made them to forget their memories that they were molested for years, but now those memories are coming out and they need money. There are definitely lots of loonies out there that when their money runs out, they need to dip in bank of Michael Jackson.

 

[HIStory]

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and you didn't believe me when I wrote she said "compressed memories" and "remembered when he remembered".

I believed that she said that I just didn't know if she understood that well. We still cannot be sure of course, but in this video she seems adamant that Gradstein said compressed memory (she even points out it was not repressed but compressed) and apparently it was something he based his argument on re. statues of limitations - eg. "he remembered when he remembered". If so this seems extremely desperate.

I don't know if the term "compressed memory" even exists in psychological literature, it seems to be an informatics/computer term. So maybe it's Gradstein being "creative". They do not want to say repressed memory because Robson already said publicly it wasn't that but they try to claim something similar. The memory was not repressed, it was there, but it was "compressed" - whaterver the eff that means. LOL.

 

[Bubs]

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"9103 is the late probate claim. both safechuck and wade is trying to get judge to allow them a probate claim - aka 9103 and Estate is arguing against it."

"On a side note : Given how Branca's long work history is being used (or tried to be used) against him I feel it's better if Estate and Weitzman stays silent"

After a few cigarettes, I think I got it what they are after!
Didn't Wade try to claim that he wasn't aware of estate and/or he wasn't notified of it?
9103.
(a) Upon petition by a creditor or the personal representative, the court may allow a claim to be filed after expiration of the time for filing a claim provided in Section 9100 if either of the following conditions is satisfied:
(1) The personal representative failed to send proper and timely notice of administration of the estate to the creditor, and that petition is filed within 60 days after the creditor has actual knowledge of the administration of the estate.
(2) The creditor had no knowledge of the facts reasonably giving rise to the existence of the claim more than 30 days prior to the time for filing a claim as provided in Section 9100, and the petition is filed within 60 days after the creditor has actual knowledge of both of the following:
(A) The existence of the facts reasonably giving rise to the existence of the claim.
(B) The administration of the estate.
- See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/cacode/PROB/1/d7/4/3/s9103#sthash.9PUznbXk.dpuf

They are after Branca because if they get him admit he was aware of MJ molesting people from left and right, Branca, as executor should have sent notice of to WR, and that is the reason they want court docs from older case, just to see if there is something about Branca knowing molestation.
If there is something that they can work on, then judge can allow this go ahead as late claim because Branca was aware, but didn't notify WR, thus late claim.

Does that make any sense to you guys?

 

[HIStory]

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^ I think it's more because they do not seem to have anyone to sue at this point.

Let me explain: There are two processes here. One is the lawsuit, the other is the creditor's claim. In the lawsuit Robson named MJ, MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures as Defendants. The Estate filed two demurrers saying that Robson cannot name any of those entities as a Defendant in this case. 1) MJ is dead and you cannot sue a dead person. 2) His companies have nothing to do with these allegations and Robson could not even make a viable argument as to how they are responsible for his alleged abuse. He just claims they are. The most significant new information I see in the above Pearl videos that the Judge apparently said the same: that he did not understand how the companies are related to any of it and he kind of tossed the issue aside. So he seems to agree with the Estate on that, which would be a good sign regarding the demurrers. Well, if Pearl understood and interpreted it well.

So if both MJ and his companies would be dismissed as defendants that would mean Robson would have no one to sue, at least in the lawsuit. I guess that would mean a dismissal of the lawsuit, unless they could substitute the formerly named Defendants with someone else - eg. the Estate, John Branca, Howard Weitzman, anyone. (And why doesn't he claim his mother knew? If what he claims was true Joy Robson would have more reasons to know about it than anyone else.) I think that's why they are so desperate to try to get them "admit" they knew something but they are fools if they think that will happen.

(The dismissal of the lawsuit would not mean though that the case is over as the creditor's claim is still going on and I think a decision is expected in February 2015 about that. If it's dismissed then I think the case is over - well, besides appeals. But if the creditor's claim is approved by the Judge then the Estate can say that they dispute the claim and that is when Robson can sue the Estate, I believe. Right now he cannot. Only MJ, his companies and whatever crap he is trying now.)

 

[barbee0715]

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Nothing will stop it. That's why it's absolutely critical that the judge throws all of this out and completely end this once and for all. There will be no resurrection of the legacy if this continues and it has to stop.

 

[#MJforever57]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Wow. He put a huge dent in his credibility right there, this is court, in court, you NEVER report what you can't support. This will come back to bite him!

Maybe this is what the judge need to dismiss this case their are already labeling Michael and there is no proof. Yes i agree this will come back and bite him.


I really do believe that the judge need to let this Estate close no more claims.


Ivy have this been done yet? Is there a date?

Notwithstanding subdivision (a), the court shall not allow a claim to be filed under this section after the court makes an order for final distribution of the estate.

And if this has been done then there is no way this claim can go through right?




So this is what Wade lawyer is trying to get around

- Says Gradstein argues that Robson had "compressed memories" until March 2012 and that is the argument with that they try to get around statues of limitations

This is all lies imo.

 

[HIStory]

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Ivy have this been done yet? Is there a date?

Notwithstanding subdivision (a), the court shall not allow a claim to be filed under this section after the court makes an order for final distribution of the estate.

No, there was no final distribution of the Estate yet, that is why they could file a creditor's claim. Once the final distribution happens no more creditor's claim can be filed. Pearl also reported that this was another argument of the Estate lawyers: that there is a reason for statues of limitations and that is that after statues pass the Estate can close (ie. the final distribution can happen). But if this is allowed to go on then the Estate cannot close and it can go on and on and on forever as long as someone thinks its a good idea to make money by filing a creditor's claim against the Estate even though the statues have passed. MJ is dead for almost 5 years, all statues passed, the Estate needs to close already - apparently this was one argument the Estate lawyers made.

 

[#MJforever57]

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^ I think it's more because they do not seem to have anyone to sue at this point.

Let me explain: There are two processes here. One is the lawsuit, the other is the creditor's claim. In the lawsuit Robson named MJ, MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures as Defendants. The Estate filed two demurrers saying that Robson cannot name any of those entities as a Defendant in this case. 1) MJ is dead and you cannot sue a dead person. 2) His companies have nothing to do with these allegations and Robson could not even make a viable argument as to how they are responsible for his alleged abuse. He just claims they are. The most significant new information I see in the above Pearl videos that the Judge apparently said the same: that he did not understand how the companies are related to any of it and he kind of tossed the issue aside. So he seems to agree with the Estate on that, which would be a good sign regarding the demurrers. Well, if Pearl understood and interpreted it well.

So if both MJ and his companies would be dismissed as defendants that would mean Robson would have no one to sue, at least in the lawsuit. I guess that would mean a dismissal of the lawsuit, unless they could substitute the formerly named Defendants with someone else - eg. the Estate, John Branca, Howard Weitzman, anyone. (And why doesn't he claim his mother knew? If what he claims was true Joy Robson would have more reasons to know about it than anyone else.) I think that's why they are so desperate to try to get them "admit" they knew something but they are fools if they think that will happen.

(The dismissal of the lawsuit would not mean though that the case is over as the creditor's claim is still going on and I think a decision is expected in February 2015 about that. If it's dismissed then I think the case is over - well, besides appeals. But if the creditor's claim is approved by the Judge then the Estate can say that they dispute the claim and that is when Robson can sue the Estate, I believe. Right now he cannot. Only MJ, his companies and whatever crap he is trying now.)

Good post i agree in the bold part.

Nothing will stop it. That's why it's absolutely critical that the judge throws all of this out and completely end this once and for all. There will be no resurrection of the legacy if this continues and it has to stop.

I agree 100% with you.

 

[#MJforever57]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Question for anybody what do Wade want to see from Neverland discovery? That the Estate is refuse to let them have access to?

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Question for anybody what do Wade want to see from Neverland discovery? That the Estate is refuse to let them have access to?

I think Gradstein is just on a fishing expedition. I cannot think of anything else why the Neverland search is so important to them at this point. The issue right now is statues of limitations and equitable estoppel. There was nothing found in the Neverland search that could support their request for either extended statues or equitable estoppel. There were no documents or anything found in which MJ threatened people to keep silent about abuse. There were no documents or anything found in which MJ mislead people about abuse or their legal possibilities. So what exactly do they hope to find there to support their claim for extended statues of limitations or equitable estoppel? Should not they give some kind of foundation about what they hope to find there that would support their argument for equitable estoppel? This way it just seems to be a fishing expedition.


I think the whole demand to access NL search material is part of their game to throw in everything and see what sticks (much like Sneddon in 2005). Because there is just no foundation for them that they would find anything there that would support their equitable estoppel. All the material found there is public record and there is nothing there for them to support their equitable estoppel and I don't know what they hope to find there. I don't think Gradstein doesn't know that. I think it's just to have access to certain inflammatory material (eg. porn magazines, art books with nude people etc.) which have nothing to do with their equitable estoppel but they could somehow use to try to prejudice the judge and put out to inflame the public. The same as with their graphic questionnaire to the Estate through which they managed to put graphic details of their allegations out to the public.

ETA: In their motion to compel Robson's side argued that they need the NL search material to show MJ had a certain modus operandi. Again I don't know what among that material is supposed to show that. I guess they want to take the porn magazines and say because MJ had porn magazines it somehow is a proof that he had a modus operandi to show it to children. That is BS of course because we all know that Wade was shown those magazines in court so if he's making up allegations it's a no brainer for him to include that element. It doesn't prove a "modus operandi" or anything. And like I said I do not see it as relevant at this point anyway. At this point the discussion is only about whether the case should go forward and the NL search has nothing to do with that. So like I said, I assume they want access to that material to use things like the porn mags for inflammotary reasons.

 

[#MJforever57]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

No, there was no final distribution of the Estate yet, that is why they could file a creditor's claim. Once the final distribution happens no more creditor's claim can be filed. Pearl also reported that this was another argument of the Estate lawyers: that there is a reason for statues of limitations and that is that after statues pass the Estate can close (ie. the final distribution can happen). But if this is allowed to go on then the Estate cannot close and it can go on and on and on forever as long as someone thinks its a good idea to make money by filing a creditor's claim against the Estate even though the statues have passed. MJ is dead for almost 5 years, all statues passed, the Estate needs to close already - apparently this was one argument the Estate lawyers made.

I was hope for yes. So Wade lawyer is trying to use his memory as a way to get around the statues of limitations right? So it took 7 yr for Wade memory to come back and now he say he was abuse by Michael who is going to believe that their are going to go back to 2005 where Wade said he was never abuse by Michael Jackson


Keys words Never abuse by Michael Jackson

 

[#MJforever57]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I think Gradstein is just on a fishing expedition. I cannot think of anything else why the Neverland search is so important to them at this point. The issue right now is statues of limitations and equitable estoppel. There was nothing found in the Neverland search that could support their request for either extended statues or equitable estoppel. There were no documents or anything found in which MJ threatened people to keep silent about abuse. There were no documents or anything found in which MJ mislead people about abuse or their legal possibilities. So what exactly do they hope to find there to support their claim for extended statues of limitations or equitable estoppel? Should not they give some kind of foundation about what they hope to find there that would support their argument for equitable estoppel? This way it just seems to be a fishing expedition.


I think the whole demand to access NL search material is part of their game to throw in everything and see what sticks (much like Sneddon in 2005). Because there is just no foundation for them that they would find anything there that would support their equitable estoppel. All the material found there is public record and there is nothing there for them to support their equitable estoppel and I don't know what they hope to find there. I don't think Gradstein doesn't know that. I think it's just to have access to certain inflammatory material (eg. porn magazines, art books with nude people etc.) which have nothing to do with their equitable estoppel but they could somehow use to try to prejudice the judge and put out to inflame the public. The same as with their graphic questionnaire to the Estate through which they managed to put graphic details of their allegations out to the public.

ETA: In their motion to compel Robson's side argued that they need the NL search material to show MJ had a certain modus operandi. Again I don't know what among that material is supposed to show that. I guess they want to take the porn magazines and say because MJ had porn magazines it somehow is a proof that he had a modus operandi to show it to children. That is BS of course because we all know that Wade was shown those magazines in court so if he's making up allegations it's a no brainer for him to include that element. It doesn't prove a "modus operandi" or anything. And like I said I do not see it as relevant at this point anyway. At this point the discussion is only about whether the case should go forward and the NL search has nothing to do with that. So like I said, I assume they want access to that material to use things like the porn mags for inflammotary reasons.

Thank you i really did not think anythings was there you are right their are fishing their have nothing.

 

[#MJforever57]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Is Feb 2015 the later we will hear something or before that i would love to hear something before 2015.

 

[HIStory]

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I was hope for yes. So Wade lawyer is trying to use his memory as a way to get around the statues of limitations right? So it took 7 yr for Wade memory to come back and now he say he was abuse by Michael who is going to believe that their are going to go back to 2005 where Wade said he was never abuse by Michael Jackson


Keys words Never abuse by Michael Jackson

There are three statues at play here. According to one Wade should have filed within 8 years of reaching the age of majority - ie. until the age of 26. He clearly missed that. Then there was the possibility to file a creditor's claim one year within MJ's death. He missed that too. Then there is the mentioned Probate Code 9103 as a last resort for him which says:

(a) Upon petition by a creditor or the personal representative, the court may allow a claim to be filed after expiration of the time for filing a claim provided in Section 9100 if either of the following conditions is satisfied:

(1) The personal representative failed to send proper and timely notice of administration of the estate to the creditor, and that petition is filed within 60 days after the creditor has actual knowledge of the administration of the estate.

(2) The creditor had no knowledge of the facts reasonably giving rise to the existence of the claim more than 30 days prior to the time for filing a claim as provided in Section 9100, and the petition is filed within 60 days after the creditor has actual knowledge of both of the following:

(A) The existence of the facts reasonably giving rise to the existence of the claim.

(B) The administration of the estate.

(1) (The personal representative failed to send proper and timely notice of administration of the estate to the creditor, and that petition is filed within 60 days after the creditor has actual knowledge of the administration of the estate.) does not apply here as there is no basis for why the Estate should have sent him a notice. He was not a creditor at the time. In fact, he claims he was not even aware of his abuse yet at the time.

So what they try to apply here is this part:

(2) The creditor had no knowledge of the facts reasonably giving rise to the existence of the claim more than 30 days prior to the time for filing a claim as provided in Section 9100, and the petition is filed within 60 days after the creditor has actual knowledge of both of the following:

(A) The existence of the facts reasonably giving rise to the existence of the claim.

(B) The administration of the estate.

He claims he had no knowledge of his abuse until May 2012. However even if one would want to accept that BS he still missed the statues there as he should have filed within 60 days of being enlightened about having been abused. He only filed in May 2013, so he missed that 60 days limit as well. So the last resort is not knowing about the administration of the Estate. That's why he claims he did not know about the administration of the Estate until March 2013 as that would put him within this 60 days limit. Well, in case the Judge buys the BS that he did not know about the Estate until 2013.

 

[HIStory]

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Is Feb 2015 the later we will hear something or before that i would love to hear something before 2015.

I think there will be a decision about the Estate demurrers on October 1 and there will be a couple of hearings in November too.

 

[barbee0715]

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Agree. In the strictest letter of the law there is no case. That's why they're trying to push all the scandalous stuff. To appeal to human emotion.