Thank you for remembering me I haven't posted that much nor have I contributed much in discussion in this thread so to be remembered was nice. Hope you are all well :hug:PS: oh, some others who have been here lately or are ones to check in with us now and then: roomdownstairs, paisleyCUTtop, bored, Rubi, lulubelle, Lorraine, wendijane, Autumn, Lily, windy09! *waves to all*
The Cosmic Dance...
You do know don't you, that "Another Part of Me" is an extremely deep song? I mean, really, really deep. It seems lighthearted and fun, but the lyrics say EXACTLY what I was mentioning earlier. That we are all part of each other, and he is a part of us/we are part of him. There's a bright future ahead, and he's seen it. He has a MESSAGE, if only we'll listen. In reality, he is a singing philosopher/prophesier. The music is more about the deeper meaning of things, than it is about entertainment. Singing and dancing is just...his way of communicating it. To those who will take heed.
oops here it is
Love You for a Thousand Years
Thank you for remembering me I haven't posted that much nor have I contributed much in discussion in this thread so to be remembered was nice. Hope you are all well :hug:
Well ... I'm glad others are stepping in to resurrect this thread. My wings had grown weary trying to keep it afloat. Now this mysterious bird can go build a nest and set herself ablaze!!! And return sometime in the future - renewed.
p.s. I am worried about Ashtanga.
Well ... I'm glad others are stepping in to resurrect this thread. My wings had grown weary trying to keep it afloat. Now this mysterious bird can go build a nest and set herself ablaze!!! And return sometime in the future - renewed.
p.s. I am worried about Ashtanga.
Too many good people contributed to keep this thread. I miss those times... things just don't seem the same as the used to be but I feel the magic is not over, only sleeping...Last night when I was lying in bed before going to sleepI was thinking about this thread and so many of those that have posted in the past and have not returned...
Moddie, AllforMJ, and summer, they seem to have given up when the server change took place in July and their passwords didn't work for them. All of us pushed through till we discovered what happened and got back in, but they seem to have not done that.
Mystygrl, Linda, 8701girl, Mysterygirl7, love.him and SoS, are around, but not into posting in the thread anymore. Shhaaaby flitters about here and there...she may return. Sdeidjs took offense and instead of taking the suggestion to post in a way differently than she had been, she completely left. But that does not mean all of her posts were not appreciated...many were. She posted a very interesting post on "Soulmates," do you guys remember, and one on friendship, and a beautiful post where she talked about her struggles and successes with working hard and making things work out for her and her boy as a single mom. And I will always remember her introducing me to the song "Ribbons in the Sky" by Stevie Wonder. So pretty, and to think I had never heard it before. I always think of her now whenever I hear it. Favoritetune disappeared into the oblivion, as did Justus, and that fun, silly poet, MimiK, long ago. Who am I forgetting? Probably a few special others...
The latest album that is supposedly going to be released of Michael motown songs, "Icon" has a few songs on it that I had never heard before, which are quite good, and have lyrics that could give us some things to discuss. True, they are songs that young Mike sang...but if we stick with the idea that God was involving Michael with a Love So Divine perhaps the lyrics being fitting for this future topic of a LITD was no accident.
PS: oh, some others who have been here lately or are ones to check in with us now and then: roomdownstairs, paisleyCUTtop, bored, Rubi, lulubelle, Lorraine, wendijane, Autumn, Lily, windy09! *waves to all*
Originally Posted by DWsoul
You do know don't you, that "Another Part of Me" is an extremely deep song? I mean, really, really deep. It seems lighthearted and fun, but the lyrics say EXACTLY what I was mentioning earlier. That we are all part of each other, and he is a part of us/we are part of him. There's a bright future ahead, and he's seen it. He has a MESSAGE, if only we'll listen. In reality, he is a singing philosopher/prophesier.
I especially like these two lines for some reason:
Can't you feel your hand slippin' from mine?
Just hold on tighter, darlin', keep on tryin'!
Because, just imagine how hard it would have been for her(our imagined LITD girl) if "her" only way "she" got communication from him was through song lyrics, or as we have talked about before, through dreams or a spiritual connection, or maybe little hints he'd drop that only "she'd" understand in things he did that was caught in the media...kinda like we would watch for in here as signs, that he was aware of us, and this thread (imagine how "she" would be watching for some kind of encouragement or signs, if his fans even do it). So "her" having discouragement and wanting to "give up" or "wake up and smell the coffee"...and "get back into reality"...all that kind of stuff, would be plaguing "her"...wouldn't ya think? So if he was attuned to "her" spiritually, wouldnt he maybe pick up on "her" discouragement when "she" was overcome by it, and figuratively "feel her hand start to slip from his"?
(MP, I'm just trying to feel in for ya till you return...hope I'm doing okay...lol)
Also, as a side note, you all probably have noticed how MJ, when he was interacting with a very young child, would have a instinctive pull to sweetly and softly stroke the back of his hand and fingers across their cheeks. I find I have that pull, too, at times. And looking at this pic of the young man, Michael, that we see in here in this video, while We're Almost There is being played, because... so much more of his life at the time of this pic is ahead of him, and many troubles are coming, which we all know about, and much pain already has happened in his heart by that young age...
well, it makes me wish I could stroke his cheek in the same way to let him know he is seen for who he is and all of that negative stuff doesn't matter anymore. And even at that age, just who he was then was worthy to be loved and be appreciated.
I bet many of you would agree.
Anyway, I like his face there.
Thank you, MJLoverForEver, for posting the lyrics to the song, Another Part of Me. And I'm sorry that you lost the first post you typed out. That's always maddening when that happens. But thank you for putting out the effort to bring us in another post some of the thoughts you had originally posted. That's very special what you have written there in your sig...I bet Michael would be honored to have been such an influence to you in such a way.
Here is one of the songs from Icon that made me think of MJ and his LITD girl (if there ever was one). It could be viewed now as bitter-sweet, though, since time obviously "ran out for them." But before the sad day of June 25, '09...was MJ trying to get a similar message to "her" that is being conveyed in this oldie motown song? Maybe he was hoping "she'd" hang in there just a little longer until he got his life back where he wanted after his run at the O2. Hm...*sigh*...well, anyway, I really like the lyrics. Not trying to make everyone too sad in all of this...
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No matter how hard the task may seem
Don't give up our plan, don't give up our dreams
No broken bridges can turn us around
'Cause what we're searchin for will soon be found
'Cause we're almost there,
Just one more step, just one more step,
don't give up, girl, 'cause we're almost there
Look at the lonely lovers that didn't make it
Life's long hard climb, they just couldn't take it
Don't let it happen to me and you
Hold on together, darlin', we'll make it through
Love, keep on reachin out for me, keep on reachin
Do it for me, do it for me
'cause baby, we're almost there
We're so close I can taste it
A life so sweet, we can't afford to waste it
Can't you feel your hand slippin' from mine?
Just hold on tighter, darlin', keep on tryin'!
Baby...
Just one more step,
Don't give up, just one more step,
baby, baby, don't give up
Keep on, keep on, just one more step,
'cause we're almost there
adlibs... Just one more step, 'cause we're almost there
We've come too far to turn around
Keep on reachin for higher ground
We've had our ups, we've had our downs,
But nothing in the world, darlin', will turn us around...
we're almost there, we're almost there, we're almost there...
etc...
I especially like these two lines for some reason:
Can't you feel your hand slippin' from mine?
Just hold on tighter, darlin', keep on tryin'!
Because, just imagine how hard it would have been for her(our imagined LITD girl) if "her" only way "she" got communication from him was through song lyrics, or as we have talked about before, through dreams or a spiritual connection, or maybe little hints he'd drop that only "she'd" understand in things he did that was caught in the media...kinda like we would watch for in here as signs, that he was aware of us, and this thread (imagine how "she" would be watching for some kind of encouragement or signs, if his fans even do it). So "her" having discouragement and wanting to "give up" or "wake up and smell the coffee"...and "get back into reality"...all that kind of stuff, would be plaguing "her"...wouldn't ya think? So if he was attuned to "her" spiritually, wouldnt he maybe pick up on "her" discouragement when "she" was overcome by it, and figuratively "feel her hand start to slip from his"?
(MP, I'm just trying to feel in for ya till you return...hope I'm doing okay...lol)
Also, as a side note, you all probably have noticed how MJ, when he was interacting with a very young child, would have a instinctive pull to sweetly and softly stroke the back of his hand and fingers across their cheeks. I find I have that pull, too, at times. And looking at this pic of the young man, Michael, that we see in here in this video, while We're Almost There is being played, because... so much more of his life at the time of this pic is ahead of him, and many troubles are coming, which we all know about, and much pain already has happened in his heart by that young age...
well, it makes me wish I could stroke his cheek in the same way to let him know he is seen for who he is and all of that negative stuff doesn't matter anymore. And even at that age, just who he was then was worthy to be loved and be appreciated.
I bet many of you would agree.
Anyway, I like his face there.
Ooohh, MP...sometimes you and I can be so in sync...you know how you have interesting dreams with songs in the background at times...well, one night, quite a few months ago, a long time ago now, I had a dream where MJ was sitting at the piano and he was playing a song and singing it in French. I thought to myself, "I know this tune" and I started to sing it with him in English, and he joined in singing English as well, and we were singing these lines together:
The truth is I never left you
All through my wild days
My mad existence
I kept my promise
Don't keep your distance
If you replace lyrics to represent a guy's perspective and him singing it...it does really fit MJ quite well with things of his life, his celebrity and such. Nice job, MP.
p.s. I am worried about Ashtanga.
It would probably put you (and many) at peace if Ash could somehow post and let us know why she stopped posting here on MJJC. Considering how active she was, it is so extreme to have her not here at all. It would naturally make one wonder what could be the reason for it. I hope she is fine and there is no need to worry.
Aw MP. It's sad to hear it... *looking forward to your back* :timer:
I used to keep in touch with Ash on Facebook but she is no longer there. I don't really know what happened... as Lisha has said "I hope she is fine and there is no need to worry".
Wow, what a great thread! So far this is my favorite, but I only had time to read a little bit tonight, and since I am new - I have SOOO much reading to do here, there and everywhere!
And a very BIG thank you to AllForMJ for starting this thread and for sharing your thoughts and insight! Truly fantastic!
And to Iceberg, girl - you hit the nail right on the head! The Magic will never end! (loved the link to that beautiful picture!)
To Ashtanga, just wanted to say that I think I understand what you mean here . MJ will never, ever be forgotten - no way! But since his passing, I have had different feelings, different emotions, while listening to his music or watching videos. Just after his passing, it was almost way too painful to even listen to his songs or watch anything with him in it - b/c it would just jolt me into the realization that he was no longer here, that there would never be a new video again, or concerts, or hope of ever meeting him in person! (a hope I held onto every single day, until that horrible day)
Then, as time went on, it became a bit easier to do all this. Yet even to this day, there are times when I'm watching some of the videos from the Home Movies- where they usually make me laugh or smile so big- or listening to particular songs (for me, they are Stranger in Moscow, I'll Be There, Will You Be There and Earth Song)...I cry so hard, right down from the center of my soul!
Indeed, there are times when it's just really, really hard. ((hugs))
I'm just so glad that we have each other and ALL the gifts that MJ left for us!
Hello, Ash!!! Blessings! And thank you so much for letting us know what happened. Something just didn't seem right without you. :no:
I hope all your laptop troubles will soon be all corrected with this new one you have now; and, oh my gosh, that is so sad you lost many, many files. Wait, not all your MJ pics? You had so many! And also you had so many saved articles regarding him. All gone?
Hey!!! The Ashmeister is BACK!!!
Glad your computer just died. Not that I'm glad your computer died, just that it wasn't something worse. Good to hear you were able to get a new laptop. Now you are back in business!
Hope you guys don't mind all of the "oldies" I have been posting lately, but they have such a way of lifting my spirits (and I hope yours, too) ... especially THIS one! (Now just admit there is no possible way you can stay in a bad mood after listing to this classic!)
Hope you guys don't mind all of the "oldies" I have been posting lately, but they have such a way of lifting my spirits (and I hope yours, too) ... especially THIS one! (Now just admit there is no possible way you can stay in a bad mood after listing to this classic!)
Ash....noooo...you lost some MJ related stuff? I'm sorry. Yeah, go about things now in such a way to protect yourself for a possible next time. Good idea. You're thinking. :yes: (as always! )
I'm lovin' these oldies you've been postin'! Our Day Will Come...what a great one. It's a nice song to sing, and the melody is so pretty at the part where the lines are "Our dreams have magic/Because we'll always stay/In love this way..." Very pretty. But...for in here, kinda depressing...the "our day will come" bit, when it never did for MJ and the litdg. Oh wait...that reminds me...
I came across in some thread around here that someone asked Frank Cascio if MJ had found love before he died and if someone REALLY loved him back in time. And the fun thing about it, cause of this thread, do you guys remember a long while ago someone named "Dri" from Brazil posting in here. I think she is the very person who was bold enough to ask Frank that question! Wouldn't ya know one of the hopeless romantics from in here would be behind it. haha.
Anyway, he answered her question in the affirmative...so all who have been so sad about him never meeting anyone in time...he apparently did. Was she the LITD girl for sure...hmmm...I dunno. What do you guys think? lol.
Oh, MP, I really like this Temptation song, too, that you've posted. Do you see it more from the perspective that MJ would have begged her to stay, or "she" if there ever was a she-litd, would be the one to have begged him to stay or what is your take on these lyrics, MP, and how they fit in here? :scratch:
I pray that he finds the right person finaly.No matter how she is and or where she lives...I want just she make him happy truly and that MJ allowed yourself be loved, which he also delivered for this love.:heart:
:lol:Oh, man, someone from in here asked that question? I am so embarrased (NOT!). I admire her boldness!
That line is very close. How did you come up with that so quick. You sure have a large repetoire of songs that you know, MP.MP said:As for the song, perhaps it should be ... "Our Day Came and Went"? lol! Or ... perhaps their "day" will come in the great beyond? This seems especially true after you brought up the one line that goes:
"Our dreams have magic/Because we'll always stay/In love this way..."
That line was reminding me of something, and I just thought of what it was. It reminds me of the line in Celine Dion's, "My Heart Goes On" where she sings:
"We'll stay forever this way ..."
MP said:You ask, "Was she the LITD girl for sure?" I would say she would still be the LITD 'cause we never got a name or anything, so she is technically still "in the dark." Or are we in the dark?:scratch:
MP said:Well, as far as "Ain't Too Proud to Beg," it's hard for me to find a justification for it. I'm just really enjoying the "oldies" lately since I think a lot of stuff out today is just weird. There are a few good songs and groups out there, but it's hard to find real "feel good" stuff like the songs from the past. They are just so uplifing. But, if I had to justify it, I would say that I think MJ coulda, woulda very well sung this song to his LITD. And what LITD wouldn't have liked hearing those words coming out of his vocal cords? As far as her "begging," well ... I don't know if women are so good at that since we ARE too proud! lol!
DWsoul likes to come and tease us with their presence and then leave. lol. Maaaaan!MP said:Where is DWsoul?
yes, and much more than that :heart:Lily;3610120 said:I hope this is the kind of beautiful love Michael found...
“I love you without knowing how, or when, or from where. I love you simply, without problems or pride: I love you in this way because I do not know any other way of loving but this, in which there is no I or you, so intimate that your hand upon my chest is my hand, so intimate that when I fall asleep your eyes close.” ~ Pablo Neruda
:heart:
What I say next to you, claudiadoina, is gonna make me feel like I'm -just like- MJ when he was in the elevator with five year old Prince. Prince was saying Star Wars, Episode 2 was "slow," and MJ rephrased Bashir's question to Prince like this:He did find THE LOVE.The true love. :heart:
He did love and he was loved more than anybody could ever believe or understand.
From the moment he found THE LOVE of his life he was the happiest man on Earth till the end.
Good points!Yes, we really don't know what Frank actually knew. He could have seen any woman hanging around MJ and thought, Oh, o.k., he has found love then (and of course, it may have not actually have been his love in the dark at all, just some random woman). Or ... as you said, being as close as they were, perhaps MJ felt comfortable enough to share info about his LITD with him.
MP said:As far as people having a tendency of making the LITD plural, I think that is another story. Sure, he may have had relationships with other women that no one else knew about, but I don't think they would actually qualify for being his LITD necessarily since I believe his LITD actually refers to one person only that he felt was the one for him. It may just be easier to take Ash's stance and just believe he never had not even an ounce of desire for anyone and no one ever desired him either. (Just joking, Ash. Don't hurt me!)
MP said:But, it does bring up an interesting angle to this - loving your LITD while loving an LITL (Love in the Light). I think this would make your heart feel split and very confused. This could have been or maybe is happening on her end as well - loving her LITD (which of course, would be MJ) and loving an LITL at the same time. Very confusing, heartbreaking and sad situation. I don't know how MJ was able to do it with such ease. That is a terrible situation to be in.
Now Ash for one would definitely reject number three, or maybe all of these and maybe is doubting what Frank said even, for it never set right for her that someone who loved MJ could be in his life and let happen what ended up happening. Right, Ash?
It may just be easier to take Ash's stance and just believe he never had not even an ounce of desire for anyone and no one ever desired him either. (Just joking, Ash. Don't hurt me!)
Does this possibly mean that you have personally encountered someone who is presenting themselves as the woman that was last in his life, and...^^^ It's not only that I'm sure he did, I know he did :heart:
That makes sense, Ashmeister.One part was only with him and nobody else. To me that's a fact. -_- Or not???? :fear:
Does this possibly mean that you have personally encountered someone who is presenting themselves as the woman that was last in his life, and...
you believe them?
That makes sense, Ashmeister.