Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

Thanks cleo7 for the apology, really appreciate it! hope those who participate in thread can please stay on topic, ya know we have P. I. badges in Michael's own private investigation firm, lol.

Allformj, I started noticing a certain pattern from Michael only in the very recent years, perhaps within 2 years. Whenever there was a story out about him being married to or getting married to the kids nanny, he all of a sudden would almost immediately have a statement from Raymone to release denying the rumors? That was not the case in the early 2000's with the same rumors and nanny. He didn't not address those rumors with viguor back then. Have you noticed that too? Anyone can answer. Please guys, I do not want this thread to be about the nanny.
I think he started getting his "house in order" during that time. He made it clear, who he did not want. Also during that time there were less and less pictures of the nanny, him and the kids together. Michael made this change strategically for the purpose of a successful new beginning in his private life with his lady love. He obviously knew he had to make certain changes.
 
Sorry if what I’ve said made you feel cut off, mysterygirl7. I didn’t know you were atheist and that you have feelings for a man that is God-fearing. Actually, I think that's kinda special.
:yes: :flowers:

Oh thank you.. I think he would be the only one who would be able to make me believe.. haha
 
^^ very interesting Moddie:) :yes: I have noticed the same thing. But someonelse can say what they have to say if they want.. :)
 
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lol clever.. .well maybe YOU need to be the mystery girl, and I should be a Private Eye right? ( ;) Just teasing)
For myself, I had enough of my life without God.. He was there as far back as I can remember, and then when I forgot about Him, my life was a mess! You aren't any less worthy or valid because of your beliefs. We all speak from what we know and what we see. You could add some very new perspective that we missed because no one comes from the same exact place. How can any of us say you AREN'T the lady he loves? (some might, but I couldn't) You may have been joking in that thread earlier, but maybe you weren't. I don't think this thread is about excluding anyone or even speculating WHO it could be. It's just an interactive love story inspired by Michaels music and our interpretation of it. Please do share what you see.
 
''AllforMJ '' please,please forgive me for being another person who ,takes your Beautiful thread of on-point Interpetion's off topic ,I simply need to get these words out...
'' you '' (as In everyone) can never speak on Gods name too much!!
without him what do any of us really have worth anything ? Nothing ...
Thank you God for everything !!
To Michael Joseph Jackson God Bless you,all my love ~Deborah~
God Bless you AllforMJ Thank you,keep up the good work peace...
 
Here's something that show's MJ had feelings for someone back during the trial. And just imagine, Sneddon went after him to lock him up behind a lie and ended up retiring in shame behind that lying family.

Michael wasn't thinking about anyone but that chick while they were trying to paint him as a so-called predator.

As a matter of fact, mysterygirl7, I want to thank you for what you said about me bringing up God, because it made me think of how MJ thanked Him in this two-part message. Yep. There are two parts here.

Without God, my children, my family and you, my fans, I could not have made it through. Your love, support and loyalty made it all possible.

You were there when I really needed you. I will never forget you. Your ever-present love held me, dried my tears, and carried me through.

I will treasure your devotion and support forever. You are my inspiration.


Love,

Michael Jackson
Notice that there was no reason for him to say he will never forget his family, as his family was most likely going to stay in contact with him no matter where he went in the world.

Notice that there was no reason for him to say he will never forget his children, as he was taking his children with him.

Notice that there was no reason for him to say he will never forget his friends, as most of his dearest friends would most likely call him, or vice versa.

Notice that there was no reason for him to say he will never forget his fans, as his fans are spread across the globe and he would have to go to the moon or somewhere to say something like this.

So, who was he talking to? And are you noticing that he said the person’s ever-present love dried his tears?

Are you noticing that loyalty and support is in the first half and devotion and support is in the second half?

This clearly shows he was in love during the trial.
 
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lol clever.. .well maybe YOU need to be the mystery girl, and I should be a Private Eye right? ( ;) Just teasing)
For myself, I had enough of my life without God.. He was there as far back as I can remember, and then when I forgot about Him, my life was a mess! You aren't any less worthy or valid because of your beliefs. We all speak from what we know and what we see. You could add some very new perspective that we missed because no one comes from the same exact place. How can any of us say you AREN'T the lady he loves? (some might, but I couldn't) You may have been joking in that thread earlier, but maybe you weren't. I don't think this thread is about excluding anyone or even speculating WHO it could be. It's just an interactive love story inspired by Michaels music and our interpretation of it. Please do share what you see.

Hehe.. you are already the Private Eye I think, with all the things you have found out!! It's kind of incredible, really.. I have been reading this for days.. lol
I think you are right, if people don't believe the same as some, they might be able to bring different things to the interpretation..
I will try and see what I can come up with..
 
Here's something that show's he a feelings for someone back during the trial.

As a matter of fact, mysterygirl7, I want to thank you for what you said about me bringing up God, because it made me think of how MJ thanked Him in this two-part message. Yep. There are two parts here.


Notice that there was no reason for him to say he will never forget his family, as his family was most likely going to stay in contact with him no matter where he went in the world.

Notice that there was no reason for him to say he will never forget his children, as he was taking his children with him.

Notice that there was no reason for him to say he will never forget his friends, as most of his dearest friends would most likely call him, or vice versa.

Notice that there was no reason for him to say he will never forget his fans, as his fans are spread across the globe and he would have to go to the moon or somewhere to say something like this.

So, who was he talking to? And are you noticing that he said the person’s ever-present love dried his tears?

Are you noticing that loyalty and support is in the first half and devotion and support is in the second half?

This clearly shows he was in love during the trial.

When did he say that?? :scratch:
 
^^ very interesting Moddie:) :yes: I have noticed the same thing. But someonelse can say what they have to say if they want.. :)


Yep! MJbabe it is very interesting. Michael is no idiot. He is paying attention. This man didn't want his lady love not to come, he knew he had to make certain changes that would fit her back into his life. He knows her well and obviously knows what she would not like. He also must've known what would have caused problems for them in their reuniting and he ABSOLUTELY didn't/doesn't want any issues creating havoc for them now.
It was a major step every time that rumor became very publically and quickly addressed. It is even ironically or strategically the first rumor addressed in the EBONY (DECEMBER 2007) issue.
 
Yep! MJbabe it is very interesting. Michael is no idiot. He is paying attention. This man didn't want his lady love not to come, he knew he had to make certain changes that would fit her back into his life. He knows her well and obviously knows what she would not like. He also must've known what would have caused problems for them in their reuniting and he ABSOLUTELY didn't/doesn't want any issues creating havoc for them now.
It was a major step every time that rumor became very publically and quickly addressed. It is even ironically or strategically the first rumor addressed in the EBONY (DECEMBER 2007) issue.

you said it perfectly. :) couldn't have said it better myself. and I won't lol. more plzzzzzzzzzzz :D does anyone have the Ebony mag . with this interview in it?
 
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It was also MY fault...I was the one who posted that fake picture....and here you guys were, talking about lyrics to his music. Please forgive me.

I can't understand how you guys can separate eras, though. TO me, Michael has ALWAYS sung about this stuff....from "ABC" to "Heartbreaker"... he always sung about this type of thing..
 
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Hi you guys,

We're back online! Hooray!

For those of you that may not fully understand what this thread is about, I will try to clarify....

This thread is mainly looking at the time period between when MJ was hurt and when and he started recovering from the hurt.

Back in 1993, he was served a blow that broke his heart into many pieces. It was a blow that was served right when he was at the height of everything that he had been working on for so long. He did not see this blow coming. No one did. There was a song that he had put out that described his feelings. It was "Stranger In Moscow."

In this song, he talks about the "rain" coming down. He talks about feeling "cold" inside. The word "lonely" came in and this word "lonely" started entering many other songs afterwards. The sound of anguish started entering his songs as well. All the things that shows a person is hurting started entering his songs. This was not happening prior to '93.

In 2001, when he came back to the music scene after leaving the spotlight for a while, following his last large tour, it was obvious after he came back that he had been suffering. The pain of the blow he was served had taken a toll on him. But, he came back anyway and he came back as he was. He did not hide it.

The songs that he recorded for his "Invincible" CD shows he was feeling empty inside. While speaking to an audience that year about the need to be loved he even started shedding tears. It was a tough time period for him and everyone connected to him.

Somewhere between then and now, he started perking up. The sound of emptiness started leaving. The look of sadness started leaving as well and he slowly started smiling and laughing again.

Now, he's singing like he likes someone very much...like this fondness has turned into love. It's showing in the songs he is now releasing. It's showing in the songs he's recording. It's showing in the way he is acting and we are pointing these things out in this thread.

I chose to title this thread "Did MJ Find Love In The Dark" because of the song "Someone In The Dark" that he officially released in 2004. It is a song about a friend finding him, and he is showing signs that she did.

If you would like to point out the beautiful things that you see unfolding, feel free. If you cannot handle the thought of him being in love then steer away. He doesn't seem like he's able to put this thing off too much longer from listening to the songs that have been coming out since '03.

This is not the MJ of the 1990's or before. This is the MJ of the new millennium.

Reading, contributing and having fun is what this thread is for if you like the thought of Michael Jackson and romance as it is unfolding.

:flowers:
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P.S. The reason why spirituality is also being discussed is because Michael Jackson is a very spiritual man. He is a God-fearing man.
 
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Private Investigator Ape has found yet another clue! (I remember it from when I read the article on here from the Vogue photoshoot of last year and I finally found it again)

THE KING of Pop - Roberto Croci

"I love you", whispered the King to the soon-to-be Queen, now giving this event an official dimension. All residents, who were holding their breath, burst of joy, thus announcing the opening of festivities in Vogueland. The King had finally found a brave woman, born with magic in her hands and her soul displaying a blinding energy. As she'd been through a long journey, the little Princess was about to see her ultimate dream get its due coronation; and then, the Magician made her investiture official when he pronounced these words : "A Star is born".
There were two versions since it was translated into English it seems.
The King of Pop
by Roberto Croci

"I love you" sighed the King to the next queen. The inhabitants of the town, till them without a sigh, had a thundering applause, starting the parties in Vougeland's realm. The King finally met a brave woman, charming and with a great strenght. The princess, after a long wandering saw that her dreams had come true and the great Magician said "A star is born".
Now this all seems to speak for itself in this thread. No need for my interpretations.


EDIT: http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1200301&highlight=Vogue+article+queen#post1200301
and
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1198976&highlight=Vogue+article+queen#post1198976
 
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Private Investigator Ape has found yet another clue! (I remember it from when I read the article on here from the Vogue photoshoot of last year and I finally found it again)


There were two versions since it was translated into English it seems.


Now this all seems to speak for itself in this thread. No need for my interpretations.

*having a blonde moment* I didn't get that...:scratch: :lol: Was that about MJ or something he wrote or some event he went? *confused* :scratch: :lol:
 
Thanks cleo7 for the apology, really appreciate it! hope those who participate in thread can please stay on topic, ya know we have P. I. badges in Michael's own private investigation firm, lol.

Allformj, I started noticing a certain pattern from Michael only in the very recent years, perhaps within 2 years. Whenever there was a story out about him being married to or getting married to the kids nanny, he all of a sudden would almost immediately have a statement from Raymone to release denying the rumors? That was not the case in the early 2000's with the same rumors and nanny. He didn't not address those rumors with viguor back then. Have you noticed that too? Anyone can answer. Please guys, I do not want this thread to be about the nanny.
I think he started getting his "house in order" during that time. He made it clear, who he did not want. Also during that time there were less and less pictures of the nanny, him and the kids together. Michael made this change strategically for the purpose of a successful new beginning in his private life with his lady love. He obviously knew he had to make certain changes.

This is something that I have noticed as well! I get the impression that he is addressing his "special lady", somewhere out there, that he is not interested in anyone, which brings to my mind the song, 'Beautiful Girl' during the adlibs where I am hearing him sing, "there's no one, I'm in love...etc..." Does anyone else hear those lyrics?

In addition, his making these immediate releases regarding him being unattached, imo, is a direct message to her from him...to wait until "divinity in motion" or God's time to unite them.

In the words/lyrics of MJ, when it comes to this thread I just cannot stay away..."I can't help it, if I wanted to, I wouldn't help it even if I could".:no:
 
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Thanks cleo7 for the apology, really appreciate it! hope those who participate in thread can please stay on topic, ya know we have P. I. badges in Michael's own private investigation firm, lol.

Allformj, I started noticing a certain pattern from Michael only in the very recent years, perhaps within 2 years. Whenever there was a story out about him being married to or getting married to the kids nanny, he all of a sudden would almost immediately have a statement from Raymone to release denying the rumors? That was not the case in the early 2000's with the same rumors and nanny. He didn't not address those rumors with viguor back then. Have you noticed that too? Anyone can answer. Please guys, I do not want this thread to be about the nanny.
I think he started getting his "house in order" during that time. He made it clear, who he did not want. Also during that time there were less and less pictures of the nanny, him and the kids together. Michael made this change strategically for the purpose of a successful new beginning in his private life with his lady love. He obviously knew he had to make certain changes.
I guess MJ wasn't really concerned about the rumors back in the early 2000's because he hadn't yet realized that he liked his friend. In "Fall Again" there's that line that says, "There's something about you. I stare in your eyes. Everything I'm looking for I seem to find." It seems like he was starting to really notice how much he liked his friend later on. “Fall Again” came out in ’04.

Also, maybe after going through the trial and everything and seeing how she was there for him it caused him to think about things. By '06 and ’07, he had had plenty of time to look back and reflect.
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This is something that I have noticed as well! I get the impression that he is addressing his "special lady", somewhere out there, that he is not interested in anyone, which brings to my mind the song, 'Beautiful Girl' during the adlibs where I am hearing him sing, "there's no one, I'm in love...etc..." Does anyone else hear those lyrics?

In addition, his making these immediate releases regarding him being unattached, imo, is a direct message to her from him...to wait until "divinity in motion" or God's time to unite them.

In the words/lyrics of MJ, when it comes to this thread I just cannot stay away..."I can't help it, if I wanted to, I wouldn't help it even if I could".:no:


:lol: Mystrygirl...yeah, this thread is addictive!! :lol: Kind of like Sidney Sheldon's books...Once you start reading, you can't stop! :lol: It's a fun thread! Fun to read. :yes: And if it was all true it would be sooooo romantic! :wub: I love romance...!! Even though at the moment my thoughts on love are more like this:

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:lol:

I'm done. I give up. :(

Which is why it's great to read this thread and get your "daily dose of romace". :cheers: :lmao: :lmao:

Funny you guys mentioned the thing with Grace...I noticed it too but then I thought "Ah, you're imagining things". But now that you guys brought it up...it's funny that so many noticed. Even though...who knows what teh real reason is why she's around less. Could be she's still very much around but we just don't see her. I mean, doesn't she live in Vegas? And MJ moved to Vegas. So...could be she's "out"....or still very much in his life but we just don't know it. Anything's possible. :scratch:

(And I was supposed to be just reading this thread and not write in it...:smilerolleyes::lol: Okay...lemme stop! :lol:)
 
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why just read? It's nicer when more people contribute. I put the links into that thing I posted this morning for you. It's from the Vogue photo shoot from last year. I found it in threads here when I wanted to see what was said about the photos. It is referring to the make up artist or something as the queen, but in the context they have it in, it doesn't make much sense. If you read into it (which is so much fun isn't it? lol.. ) and place it in the context of this thread.. it seems to make more sense.
 
Ah, okay, thanks for explaining Ape.

And I rather just read because I'm not really that good at coming up with the theories...I'll leave it to the "pros". :lol:

And weren't you gonna give us your two cents on Heaven Can Wait, Miss Ape? :lol: Where is it?? Where is it?? Huh? Huh? :lol:
 
but I'm not feeling romantic today *pouts* do I haaave to?

Maybe it will put me in a better mood though. I feel grumpy because of life stuff. Yeah it will probably lighten my mood.. alright I'll have a go at it.
 
I always thought that Vogue thing was talking about the lady stylist that was on the set with MJ during the shoot. :hysterical:
 
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