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Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

LindaC781 said:
There have been times when I really really questioned the existence of someone like Jesus in my life. Believe me. When my aunt died, when my uncle died a horrible death...when I lost my grandmother...I questioned it. But then there are times when I feel exhilaration in Jesus. I guess we're all born to be like this...from Job onward..
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Ya, I know what you mean. It hasn't happened too often, but there have definitely been a few times in my life when I've really questioned Him and have even been pretty angry with Him. I would even cop a 'tude and everything (not smart! lol!). I don't really do that anymore. I guess you could say I've really come a long way.

I guess it's like you said, we all have to go through our "Job" experiences at some point. I've been listening to a song that has the lyrics, "Even though we don't understand it, the Father does all things well." I guess you have to be pretty "grown up" to look at things that way, lol! But the amazing thing is, no matter what happens, He keeps drawing me back to Himself. That just goes to show how great His love for us really is - He refuses to let us go! I guess they call that "stubborn love.":yes:
 
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MysteriousPhoenix said:
I've been drawing a lot of comfort from this song, lately. I thought it would be o.k. to post it here since this man's voice and the melody of the song sound kind of "Michaelish" to me.:)


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Dependence (Jamie Slocum)

This is the life I've always wanted
To know the prince of peace
To feel my faith restored
As your grace surrounds me

This is the day of new beginnings
This is where my freedom starts
And now death has lost its sting
And Jesus how can I thank you?

Just to know, just to know that you love me
Gives me hope to carry on
What can this world do to me? No, no
Just to know, just to know that you're with me
On all these roads I traveled on
When all I have is gone
I confess my dependence on you

There is a lightness in my laughter
There is a joy inside my soul
My heart is overwhelmed
And Jesus how can I thank you?

Just to know, just to know that you love me
Gives me hope to carry on
What can this world do to me? No, no
Just to know, just to know that you're with me
On all these roads I traveled on
When all I have is gone
I confess my dependence on you
Dependence on you

Just to know, just to know that you love me
It gives me hope to carry on
You're the one thing that I can turn to
Just to know, just to know that you're with me
On all these roads I traveled on
You're the one thing that I can turn to
Just to know, just to know that you love me
It gives me hope to carry on
There's nothing this world can do
I confess my dependence on you
Lord, I confess my dependence on you
Dependence on you
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Awwwwwwwwwwww this music is beautiful! I am in love with that voice! How many beautiful words that lead us to God. Seems to be a prayer of thanks, an intimate conversation with God. It is very deep. It is proof of how God is near us in our lives. While many people complain of the times you think "He" forgets the people. But he never forgets... He looks with great care and affection for each one of us. We depend on it (always) that is "He" who gives us support and strength in difficult times we need to see how far will our ability to bear difficult situations and also to let us ever stronger when the next storm in our lives. It is the test that God gives us every day. That is the teaching of God, prepare us to face the difficult situations that is how we learn to become increasingly strong, invincible and thus grow spiritually. :yes::angel:​
 
MysteriousPhoenix said:
Ya, I know what you mean. It hasn't happened too often, but there have definitely been a few times in my life when I've really questioned Him and have even been pretty angry with Him. I would even cop a 'tude and everything (not smart! lol!). I don't really do that anymore. I guess you could say I've really come a long way.

I guess it's like you said, we all have to go through our "Job" experiences at some point. I've been listening to a song that has the lyrics, "Eventhough we don't understand it, the Father does all things well." I guess you have to be pretty "grown up" to look at things that way, lol! But the amazing thing is, no matter what happens, He keeps drawing me back to Himself. That just goes to show how great His love for us really is - He refuses to let us go! I guess they call that "stubborn love.":yes:
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Yeah...I hear what you're saying. I guess we all have had our "Job" moments...moments where you just throw your hands up and say "Why me, God? What ever did I do to deserve this?"....then something amazingly good happens, and your faith in the Lord is redeemed...maybe that's a part of us that is inherently human after all?
 
Which brings me back on the topic of this thread...I think that the amazingly good thing that happened to MJ that restored his faith in the Lord was the result of the trial. He now knows the depth and breadth of the Lord's love for him and his faith is restored...
 
Always believe in the beauty of God and all the magic that beauty creates...for the force of the Almighty always creates miracles when WE least expect it..!

:angel:Keep Helping to Heal The World
 
MP - Is this the song you were listening to??




You Do All Things Well - Chris Tomlin

Mountain maker
Ocean tamer
Glimpses of You
Burn in my eyes
The worship of heaven
Fills up the skies

You made it all
Said, "let there be"
And there was
All that we see
The sound of Your voice
The works of Your hands
You do all things well
You do all things well
You do all things well

Star creator
Wind breather
The strokes of Your beauty
Brushed through the clouds
Light from the heavens
Touching the ground

Imagination runs wild
And breathes the breath of life
Across the fields
Across the miles
 
LindaC781 said:
MP - Is this the song you were listening to??




You Do All Things Well - Chris Tomlin

Mountain maker
Ocean tamer
Glimpses of You
Burn in my eyes
The worship of heaven
Fills up the skies

You made it all
Said, "let there be"
And there was
All that we see
The sound of Your voice
The works of Your hands
You do all things well
You do all things well
You do all things well

Star creator
Wind breather
The strokes of Your beauty
Brushed through the clouds
Light from the heavens
Touching the ground

Imagination runs wild
And breathes the breath of life
Across the fields
Across the miles
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This song is beautiful! :clapping: Thanks for sharing! Another song that takes us to God... :angel:​
 
I'm kinda curious.....I personally believe we all have a way of connecting with God differently and I know that when people speak about Michael and his possible love in the dark woman, spirituality is mentioned quite frequently. Do you believe that the woman he finds true love with has to be someone who is vocal in her religious beliefs?.....or.....Do you believe he can find true love in a woman that believes in God but chooses to practice her Faith quietly in her own way...someone that believes in God, Deity, Guardian Angels, the words of The Bible and has a strong self-practiced spiritual connection with the Lord but doesn't vocalize it as would be done in a place like a congregation or with any specific religious denomination?

Just curious. :)
 
Lily said:
I'm kinda curious.....I personally believe we all have a way of connecting with God differently and I know that when people speak about Michael and his possible love in the dark woman, spirituality is mentioned quite frequently. Do you believe that the woman he finds true love with has to be someone who is vocal in her religious beliefs?.....or.....Do you believe he can find true love in a woman that believes in God but chooses to practice her Faith quietly in her own way...someone that believes in God, Deity, Guardian Angels, the words of The Bible and has a strong self-practiced spiritual connection with the Lord but doesn't vocalize it as would be done in a place like a congregation or with any specific religious denomination?

Just curious. :)
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I think that if the woman is spiritual, it shouldn't matter where she prays and is worshipful. MJ himself knows the following verse from the Bible:

  • Matthew 6:6
    But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.(NIV)

 
LindaC781 said:
I think that if the woman is spiritual, it shouldn't matter where she prays and is worshipful. MJ himself knows the following verse from the Bible:

  • Matthew 6:6
    But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.(NIV)
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Great verse. :)
 
I remember this song... ​



Awsome God - Michael W. Smith ​

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b1iwLIMmRQ

(P.S. I have not learned how to post the videos. lol! Sorry!)

Composer: Michael Farron​

When He rolls up His Sleeves
He is not just Putin 'on the ritz
(our God is an awesome God)
There is thunder in His footsteps
And lightning in His fist
(our God is an awesome God)
Well, the Lord was not Joking
When He kicked 'em out of Eden
It was not for the reason that He shed his blood
His return is very close and so you better be Believing
that our God is an awesome God​

Refrain
Our God (our God) is an awesome God
He reigns (He reigns) from heaven above
With wisdom (with wisdom) pow'r and love
our God is an awesome God​

And when the sky was starless in the void of the night
(our God is an awesome God)
He spoke into the darkness and created the light
(our God is an awesome God)
Judgment and wrath he poured out on to Sodom
Mercy and grace He gave us at the cross
I hope that we have not too quickly forgotten that
our God is an awesome God​

Refrain x3​

Our God is an awesome God
Our God is an awesome God
(Our God is an awesome God)
(Our God is an awesome God)​
 
LindaC781 said:
MP - Is this the song you were listening to??
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Actually, no. The song I was referring to is a bit somber. It's basically about going through difficulties, but believing that God doesn't make any mistakes. I kind of tear up a little every time I listen to it.

I'm glad you brought this song to my attention, though. It's much more jovial - puts you in a good mood.
 
MysteriousPhoenix said:
Actually, no. The song I was referring to is a bit somber. It's basically about going through difficulties, but believing that God doesn't make any mistakes. I kind of tear up a little every time I listen to it.

I'm glad you brought this song to my attention, though. It's much more jovial - puts you in a good mood.
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Thanks MP. Do you remember the name of the song you were thinking of? I want to look that up....if you don't mind...
 
LindaC781 said:
Which brings me back on the topic of this thread...I think that the amazingly good thing that happened to MJ that restored his faith in the Lord was the result of the trial. He now knows the depth and breadth of the Lord's love for him and his faith is restored...
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Funny you should bring this up. I was just thinking about this a few days ago. I too believe that the trial was significant. So significant in fact, that he had to go through being accused a second time just so he could go through a trial. It seems like the accusations in '93 were supposed to set certain things in motion in Michael's life that didn't happen at that time because there was no trial. I think Michael began to realize this too at some point and that's one of the reasons he was so resolute all through the trial. It's like he knew he had to do this once and for all.

Just a few days ago I was thinking about a post about Michael that I had read in the "Pray and Fast" thread. It was about a "prophecy" that a man from a Christian ministry had given right as the trial was starting. I confess that I'm not too familiar with this man and his ministry, but he seems to be reputable. I had been thinking about posting it here, but I didn't know if this was the right place for it. He was basically talking about how influential Michael was going to become. Well, I know he already is, but he was referring influential specifically in a more "spiritual" way. It's quite a "coincidence" that Michael's popularity has just so happened to spike in the last couple of years after the trial. If this is true - which I believe it is - it makes sense why he has been going through so much opposition. I think Michael is very special to God.


Well, thank you all for lettin' me have "church" up in here! LOL!
 
LindaC781 said:
Thanks MP. Do you remember the name of the song you were thinking of? I want to look that up....if you don't mind...
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Actually, Linda, I don't think it's an actual recorded single. It is on this CD I have called, "A Time to Draw Near" by Paula White Ministries. There are a bunch of praise and worship songs on it, and at one point Paula is talking about going through difficult things that we don't understand, and in the background the choir keeps singing over and over again, "Even though we don't understand it, the Father does all things well." Those are the only lyrics to the song and they just keep repeating it over and over again intermittently as she is talking. I think you should be able to find the CD by going to Paula White Ministries' website.
 
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MysteriousPhoenix said:
Funny you should bring this up. I was just thinking about this a few days ago. I too believe that the trial was significant. So significant in fact, that he had to go through being accused a second time just so he could go through a trial. It seems like the accusations in '93 were supposed to set certain things in motion in Michael's life that didn't happen at that time because there was no trial. I think Michael began to realize this too at some point and that's one of the reasons he was so resolute all through the trial. It's like he knew he had to do this once and for all.

Just a few days ago I was thinking about a post about Michael that I had read in the "Pray and Fast" thread. It was about a "prophecy" that a man from a Christian ministry had given right as the trial was starting. I confess that I'm not too familiar with this man and his ministry, but he seems to be reputable. I had been thinking about posting it here, but I didn't know if this was the right place for it. He was basically talking about how influential Michael was going to become. Well, I know he already is, but he was referring influential specifically in a more "spiritual" way. It's quite a "coincidence" that Michael's popularity has just so happened to spike in the last couple of years after the trial. If this is true - which I believe it is - it makes sense why he has been going through so much opposition. I think Michael is very special to God.


Well, thank you all for lettin' me have "church" up in here! LOL!
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I was going to bold certain things to talk about but it would have ended up being the entire post so... it is as is. I remember when the accusations first came I thought so clearly that it is meant to be so that he could clear his name this time around. I felt it was a way to make it all publicly known that that is not who he is. He'd never do something to harm a child. I felt it so strongly with such resolution that it didn't even cross my mind that it would end any other way than it did. Looking back now, I am sure it was God placing those thoughts with me. I felt fired up for it all and passionate for the truth to be told and glad that justice could and would be served though of course it couldn't have been easy, but maybe necessary. I always remember the verse that all things work to the good of those who love Him. I believed this was going to be the way that his name would be cleared. I know others felt that same way that I had as well. It felt really good to be so confident about something from the inside out.

Funny too that you should mention that particular post from Prayer and Fast which I had just read the other day as well.. not even a week ago. I don't even know how I found it.. (or did someone quote it and bring it back up and that's how we both got to read it? and I just didnt remember..lol) I really don't remember now but the second you mentioned the prayer and fast thread that post popped up in my mind so I knew exactly what you were talking about.

And was also just talking to someone (I can't remember who or where now) about how certain people who have a special calling from God will also have the devil strongly trying to distract them away from Gods plan. He'll try to stop them or crush them and their hopes. It;s just what happens. Now it's bugging me that I can't remember who I was talking about that with. Anyways, I fully agree with all you've said here. It just amazes me sometimes the"coincidences" that happen. It is pretty cool to watch everything fall into place how it is meant to be. (from what I can see)

Also queen g that is an excellent post as well :)
 
^ Yes, I know what you mean, Ape! Someone, I think, brought it up either in this thread or the Pray and Fast thread because something made me go back and re-read it. What is also amazing is the fact that this man said that Michael was going to influence young people involved in the music business in this generation and future generations, and it is really something to see young people all over, like on American Idol, or those who are already in the business, talk about how they are influenced by Michael. It's like I'm watching that man's words come to pass right before my eyes!
 
Absolutely, and that's most likely just the start. I think it'll be so much more even. And that's not to say he hasn't done so much already but... His life is and will be a blessing to so many and will continue to be.
 
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I think Michael is very special to God.
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MisteriousPhoenix well remembered. The Michael Jackson (We love) has God in the heart ... God loves Michael ... Michael loves God and they love us! I feel that Michael addition of talented, intelligent, creative, visionary and a spiritual person. Thanks to his faith in God and concepts of the Bible in your life. but I agree in part: I think Michael is very special to God. Because - The gift is wonderful ... Only god to justify so many wonders of Michael Jackson.. Michael Jackson remains firm, strong and happy, given the obstacles that life ... He must not be killed .. God does not want this to special son ... God wants her son loved and special: happy, strong and creating his work.

God and the work of Michael are connected.
 
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8667&postcount=145

Here we go :)
I saw this thread last night when Mr. Bumpy just started it...
(phatfan..guuuurlllllll!!!!!!!!) :eek:hmy:
In fact after I read it , I re opened it three times and read it again because I was absolutely amazed and thanking God for such faithful believers.

God is proving that beyond our finite minds, beyond the veil of this earthly residence we call life...that He calls us, He speaks to our hearts.

He wants us involved to see with the eyes of faith not distracted by the diversion of doubt in these terrible cirumstances.

All glory to Him for everyone in this thread who were spiritually sensitive to hear what God has been sayin! And yes, I can confirm too, it has been at least the last two weeks that He has been preparing the hearts and prayers of those who care about Michael.
In fact this thread 2 days before...started hinting at these very issues.

http://www.mjjforum.com/forums/index.php?s...topic=15682&hl=

However God has also called those to pray who realize some truths. One being that knowing with balance that Michael is human, that at the cross there is only level ground, no one is greater than another. He also knows there are very few people on this planet, even believers, who will not judge but pray for Michael Jackson at this time. Anyone who has been praying, consider yourself honored that your maturity in faith is such that God knew He could call and trust you with this awesome responsibility of interceding for another person in serious crisis.

I want to add something else I know God is showing me.
Michael has been attacked for the last 10 years but certainly for the last three.
I believe that as we discussed in that other thread... Michael's sense;

"And I think that I haven't scratched the surface yet of what my real purpose is for being here.

So so often, God finally shows us our real purpose as we go through and emerge out of the valleys and wilderness experiences of life. We want to find out without the pain, and God doesn't bring any pain to us ever, but somehow in our human dynamic, our stubborness prevents us from learning it any other way than when all is shaken. We find out what we are made of, we find out just how much we need God. The miracle of Him being savior and even friend is that He never leaves us or forsakes us through it. God will be with Michael every step of this ordeal.
Our prayers and spiritual sense of imminent crisis these last few days is evidence of this.

God can work it all for good. And it can take the pressure off Michael and what unparalleled pressure there is being Michael Jackson. He should never feel he has to be Unbreakable. Got news for you. He may not wear it on his sleeve and it is right to stand strong in the face of your enemies. But no one is that strong. It is a gift of relief that in being "Michael Jackson" records can be broken, unprecedented talent will become legendary but it can can never pay the heavenly debt to God of our being separated from Him through our sin......only Jesus did that once and for everyone.

A last word of warning to the wise which came to me last night.
As we are praying with such commitment and passion, let us not render our prayers ineffective with bitterness. We know that anger, unforgiveness and self righteousness can diffuse our faith. Let us not have hatred towards Tom Sneddon, Gloria, Diane etc etc...Let us thwart satan completely by even praying for them
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(and hey y'all believe God speaks to our hearts, my mind and emotions would never tell me to do that!!! ...lol)

Pray even for the family bringing the allegations. Pray for that poor child with cancer. How evil that a mother would be so scorned that she would place her child with a life threatening illness in this kind of nightmare. To brainwash him for her own gain. Only the devil would concoct a scheme that would not only try to destroy lives but one that would use a child, one who if he survives will have a life of torment from this now. And listen, I know what I am talking about....trust me.

If you are sayin, dusk you are asking too much, remember this. Your anger and bitterness block your prayers. God is love, and by His very nature He cannot respond to us when we are in that kind of state. You will not be helping Michael one bit if you are praying and full of hatred. Don't worry. God will vindicate the righteous. He will reveal the lies. We have all seen him do it.

This also came to me last night... we know that Jesus said that the devil comes to steal kill and destroy. You can see all the people he is using to try to destroy Michael.

However....There must be a greater, divine plan for Michael's life, ...or satan would not be trying so diligently to destroy him.

I love all of you!!...thank you so much for praying *tears*...be confident, be faithful and take hope as this thread resonates with the verse...Hebrew 12:1

Therefore since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us.

God is in total control.

~ dusk

remember: The question:
Why would satan want to destroy him so much if there were not a divine plan for his life?
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Here's the actual prophecy:


WARRING ANGELS BEING ASSIGNED TO MICHAEL JACKSON'S COURT TRIAL . . . AS THE BODY OF CHRIST IS BEING SUMMONED FOR 'SPIRITUAL' JURY DUTY!"
by Bill Yount
Blowing the Shofar Ministries
www.billyount.com
theshofarhasblown@juno.com



"I Want You Back!" . . . the first song that gave Michael Jackson the international spotlight on the Ed Sullivan Show in 1969 could be a prophetic word from Heaven that may soon be fulfilled.

I asked the Lord why warring angels would be attending this case that turns so many people off, with such allegations being heard. I sense the Father saying, "I have had a remnant of my people praying for Michael for years, and this is the turning point of those prayers being answered."

As the Father was saying these words, I saw a strong angel as though he was throwing a lasso over Michael Jackson's heart; the Father continued to say, "I have begun to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children and the hearts of the children to the fathers. This verse in Malachi includes Michael Jackson! I am beginning to unlock Michael's childhood to see Me as his heavenly Father."


"I AM SUMMONING MY PEOPLE FOR 'SPIRITUAL' JURY DUTY!"

I sensed the Father saying, "Not many of My own people will be able to truly pray and believe for Michael's salvation because of wanting to judge him already. I am not calling My jury of people to judge but to pray for My justice and truth to come forth and, most of all, for My Holy Spirit to hover over him and to release ministering angels -- heirs of salvation, to minister to him, that My Spirit would draw him to the foot of My cross."

I saw a great battle in the heavenlies. It seemed as though many of the third of the angels who were thrown out of heaven with Lucifer, who was heaven's worship leader, were warring over Michael Jackson's soul! I sensed the awesome presence of two strong angels who may have possibly been Michael the archangel and Gabriel themselves.


"MICHAEL JACKSON REPRESENTS A MULTITUDE OF YOUNG PEOPLE NOW AND GENERATIONS TO COME"

Then a loud cry was heard from heaven calling to God's people to pray to break the powers of idol worship and to redeem false worship on the earth back to the Father! This included redeeming every musical instrument on earth known to man for the purpose of worshiping the only true God . . . Jehovah! It is interesting that the name "Michael" means . . . "Who is like Jehovah?"

There was a sound like a shofar blast, alerting God's people to pray and fast for Michael Jackson's soul, for he represents multitudes of young people now, and generations to come, who would be delivered from false worshiping of idols and music that is influenced by the enemy!

Do you believe God can save Michael Jackson? I have a gut feeling if God saved you and me . . . He can save anybody!!!

"Welcome to 'spiritual' Jury Duty!"

www.billyount.com

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You're welcome :) I think I just started reading that thread from the start and that's how I came across that particular thread just recently (with the triplet posts lol). I think that is the one. I actually am kinda busy and distracted tonight so Im not even sure if thats the one but I quickly scanned it and thought that was the one.
 
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