Did Michael let us down with his drug addiction?

Cocaine and heroin are drugs sought out by people to feel better, prescription medication comes to people via injury or illness. Someone who would never look at taking cocaine etc, can be given a drug that makes them feel so good they get addicited.

Prescription drugs are addicitve. I was given a mild sleeping pill when I could not rest and it is very hard to give up. The peace you feel when you take it. The calm you feel on waking is (well was for me) amazing. I weaned myself off of them but I always think wistfully of them and if I could get hold of them easily believe me I would, as weak as that makes me sound.
unfortunately i know what you're talking about as it happened to me too but when i realised i felt too good i stopped taking them (i like being awake :p)... i also have a pill-addict at home and it sort of makes me hating any kind of pill ...
the important thing is you didn't choose what pill to take, it was prescribed to you. i think this was the case with mike too, since last time i checked he wasn't a doctor but an artist.
 
Let us down? Are you mad. I dont feel that at all. Michael gave to much to us all to let us down at all. Unfortunately, drug addiction is something that happens in life and it can happen to anyone, and i guess unfortunately this was more likely to happen to Michael because of the situation he was in. As many have said, we cant begin to imagine how difficult his life was. We all know he was suffering from physical and emotional pain, and when things are bad it can help. Im sure Michael was in so much pain like back or something that he needed it. I also get a horrible feeling from these doctors. Michael was in the position to be taken advantage of and the doctors i feel did that, and therefore pushed all the drugs possible onto him, and i guess he accepted it cos he felt it would make him feel better.
At the end of the day i dont blame michael or feel hes let us down, because he didnt have a normal life. Things clearly wernt easy for him. I still see him as a strong & amazing man, that will never change. Im just sorry for what has happened now.

So really i think the doctors let MICHAEL down & his fans... Cos they clearly wernt doing there job properly.
 
My opinion is that we just cannot even begin to understand what his completely abnormal life was like, so that makes it hard to 'speculate' coz we can't begin to imagine what it would be like and put ourselves in that position.
But I don't feel let down. It just all feels unfortunate, an accident. Even if he was addicted to drugs, a painkiller wouldn't normally kill him. Something went very drastically wrong. It's not like it was a slow, long, drawn out demise or anything.
 
I think, sadly, that among the many things his children will experience, they will at some point feel that he let *them* down ... he made choices (including choosing to trust the wrong people) that jeopardized his life. I cannot imagine that he would ever have consciously done that or risked leaving his children and subjecting them to so much pain. I'm not talking about addiction at this point - just the risk with the propofol. Any medical folk who EVER promoted this idea to him should be held accountable. He had to be following someone's advice, to begin with - I doubt he was reading the PDR and comparing heavy-duty sedatives/anesthetics.
 
Juli and others with all due to respect... the blame has to go to the professionals who gave him the escape into "my doc told me it's not dangerous and it will be ok" and who provided it to him... blame those ppl and blame that one the most who gave it to him the first time.
Michael was weak, he was in problems obviously cuz he couldn't sleep (bad enough but other reasons imaginable very much also)... someone used this the worst possible way and that one is to blame the most.

We're all weak some or more moments in our lives and these are moments we can't clearly see what's really right and wrong (cuz it is not always to differ as clearly as a shining bright white and a dark black) because it's marked by deepest dispair possible.

And then there are these ppl, very clearly thinking around... those who use these of our moments for their own gain and not for our good at all and these are the ppl to blame.

Please everybody should try to imagine such moments for themselves... and if you haven't experienced such yet better thank God... but if you have you'll develope some understanding.

I have seen the 'strongest' ppl sliping into addiction of something... I have seen the 'strongest' ppl making decisions bad for themselves... and honestly those who think they'll be of self controll always and never in such situations... those seem really to happen being on the edge the most to slip sooner or later.

I am sure Michaels children will develope this understanding if not even have experienced such moments already.
And I pray they'll be more lucky to find ppl in their lives they can trust in every moment.
 
michael is the rock holding my world together . he never let me down. he never did wrong. but he was way too good for this world we live in. my own life and hardships i went thru made me so attached to him that he's like a part of me. :angel:
 
I think the media wants people to feel let down and brand him a druggie therefore a bad person but nope not let down.
 
i dont think michael let us down but im pretty sure as more time passes more and more people will turn against him. still thats not exactly a new thing. even if he was the drug addict that people say he was, hes let down himself and his kids more than anyone but then addicts are paradoxical at best. most dont wish to kill themselves. its just that sometimes they take or are given too much and its enough to kill them. im pretty sure michael was wanting to live a long time and it highlights the dangers and misuse of prescription drugs
 
I don't think he let us down, because we don't even really know if he was addicted. It's all tabloid speculation. He was bankrupt in 1997 and the last ten years, he almost died in 2008 and in the spring of 2009, he was blind, he read that he had a bug that ate his flesh while he was having a dinner with his friend, he performed terribly at the 2006 WMA when in fact he wasn't even going to perform, Invincible sold 2 milion copies, his nose fell of... Get the point?
 
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Of course MJ didn't let his fans down. He's supplied us already with some of the best music and art in the history of the world. Now, did he let others down? I don't think it's really a black or white issue, so it's really not easy to say.

I do believe that MJ "doctor shopped" so as to get this drug. Why the heck else would he hire someone with the record of Murray?

But I haven't lived in Michael Jackson's shoes.

I'm sure he had legitimate reasons for doing it, I just wish he had not been so stubborn and accepted some help. I also wish that more people around him had been looking out for MJ, and not themselves. Sadly enough, it appears RF was more accurate than we wanted to believe.

I do find it very hard to blame Michael for anything, though, because I can't blame him for not wanting to live in this world 24 hours a day. It didn't exactly treat him well.
 
you would have to be superhuman not to have been affected by so many years of being targetted by the press. to have put up with it as long as he did is truly remarkable. so i dont blame michael. the press is a relentness animal at times. its stalks and tracks its prey and is always hungry for more
 
I am sorry, but I don't see how anyone can even fix there mouth to say Michael 'let us down'. Damn the boy gave us his all; everything (for 45 years). Yea, he made have taken prescription drugs, but who don't (the man had lupus - which ain't easy to leave with). The media are all liars and will do anything to bring Michael down in the public eyes. DO NOT BELIEVE THE HYPE. Michael could never let me down, he gave us tooo much. Now did we let him down? You damn straight. The minute we start feeding into these BS lies we are letting him down. WE fans no Michaels heart and it was beautiful. He sacrificed so much for us. He Showed us unconditional love (which is hard). So can we please show him the same.
 
I think, sadly, that among the many things his children will experience, they will at some point feel that he let *them* down ... he made choices (including choosing to trust the wrong people) that jeopardized his life. I cannot imagine that he would ever have consciously done that or risked leaving his children and subjecting them to so much pain. I'm not talking about addiction at this point - just the risk with the propofol. Any medical folk who EVER promoted this idea to him should be held accountable. He had to be following someone's advice, to begin with - I doubt he was reading the PDR and comparing heavy-duty sedatives/anesthetics.

Yea I agree. Some one put this idea in his head.
 
If Michael was a drug addict, then it is not our business to judge him based on that. To even ask the question "did he let us down" is very rude and judgemental.

First, if you have never had an addiction yourself, you don't have an opinion about the matter.

Secondly, to treat people as outcasts or abnormal because they have an addiction is wrong.

Thirdly, none of you knew Michael personally, so what he was or was not is not your concern. You don't know what he took or why, all you know is that he had pain.

If you don't have a degree in psychology, medicine or have never been an addict, you are incapable of understanding what it means to be addicted. Secondly, be very careful of giving someone the label of a drug addict. Michael did not take drugs to get high, he took drugs to deal with pain. Again, if you have not suffered from pain over several years, you don't have an opinion on the matter. There is a difference between taking drugs to get high and taking drugs to deal with pain, but they can both lead to an addiction.

Just be very very careful on how you go about talking about this, because you may meet people who have been addicts and who knows what this means. If you say you feel Michael let you down because he took drugs, such people will loose respect for you.

Keep the drug addict innuendo to yourself people. Ask the questions, but don't presume to know what it is.

Sorry, but this thread pisses me off!

Regards from someone who knows the mind of an addict, AND who knows the danger of prescribed medicine.

If Michael was addicted, he didn't let anyone down. The people around him who allowed this to continue let Michael down.

We don't have the right to judge Michael in this matter


i agree with this post. i try to live by the motto of dont presume to judge until you walk a mile in someone elses shoes. having been in recovery for a number of years myself; i try to accept everyone for who they are, not who i want them to be.

i would never ever feel let down and as others have stated.. he gave us EVERYTHING, asking nothign in return. i just wish we could have done more for him.
 
I don't feel let down by Michael. And I think people shouldn't use the term "drug addict" for Michael he wasn't on crack or cocaine because that is what drug addict commonly refers to. If he was addicted it was "medical drugs" and though that is an addiction it's a different form of addiction and often a different need.

If Michael did have an addiction to medical drugs at the time of his death, it will have been for health reasons. I'm just sad that in Michael's lifetime he was too trusting of people, and didn't get those he employeed like Dr Murrey fully checked out. But I don't feel let down by Michael, and never will do. He lived under a lot of pressure that no one should have had to endure.
 
Thanks for all the answers everyone. Its become crystalized for me that his fans are not let down.
 
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I don't feel let down by Michael at all because I don't believe that Michael was a drug addict. I believe just what he said years ago....he got an addiction to pain killers and got treatment for it. I don't believe that Michael has been abusing drugs all this time. I do believe he has been taking pain medication for his back.

I just don't get why we should be calling Michael a drug addict. If he is one, so is Jamie Lee Curtis who also admits to having an addiction to pain killers back in the day. She aint no drug addict. Why should Mike be one.

Until those tox reports come out and show me that Michael was popping all kings of pills at above prescription levels I just don't buy it. IMO, those reports will certainly show some pain killers in Michael's system. But I am not really buying the whole diprivan thing yet. This story came out of no wheres after Cheryl Lee made her media rounds.
 
OKAY some people really have to face the facts MICHAEL WAS a drug addict.

i swear loads of fans think hes god and cant do anything wrong.

michael had a problem with drugs. end of story.

but he hasnt let me down. im sure if i were like him having people follow you every where you go, not having a childhood, getting up everyday knowing people think your weird and think your a *you no what* i think i would have a drug problem too.
 
MIchael may have had problems with drugs, but addict is being thrown around here loosely. IF Michael couldn't get to sleep without a drug, yes he may be addicted to the drug but habitually not chemically, another words he isnt going to be like a junkie going into convulsions if he didn't get the drug, he just woudnt be able to sleep.

Same with the psych drugs, you will not feel good if you dont take them but you are not addicted to them like an alcoholic is addicted to alcohol, getting cravings and going nuts. I dont believe Michael was geneticly an addict, it is unlikely, there is no one in his family that is an addict or alcoholic so it is unlikely that he was a true addict. His behavior was not that of an addict.

I think Michael used drugs as to give him an edge up on things, the sign of the times where we demand everything now bigger better faster, he wanted to keep up please everyone, do everything.. He was probably habitually using them also as a crutch to get through his demanding days, dealing with depression, physical pain, anxiety and insomnia and giving him an edge, by giving some perceived stamina and energy for rehersals and for creative work. USing drugs for job performance is very very common now a days, students are even doing it to do better studying and taking exams. His doctors would not prescribe everything he needed so he doctor shopped. It is pretty common here in NY city.

I dont believe Michael had cravings for drugs, if he had I think he would have been intolerable to live with. If he had been chemically addicted to drugs he would have had very high highs and very low lows and there is no one that has said they saw this of Michael. The only time I saw on TV it was during the baby dangling incident, and at Liza's wedding and he went into rehab after that. Since then there were no reportings that he was acting irratically.

I am more disappointed in a society that has become so extreme expecting everything to be bigger and better and over the top. When is enough enough? WHy is soon not soon enough?

I am not disappointed in Michael at all for his use of drugs. I wish he had better people around him and I wish he didnt take so many risks with taking the drugs. But I am not let down. He was a good guy.
 
NYC Chris, I agree with much of what you posted, for sure, thats my thought process as well, in regards to any drug use by Michael.

I find it hard to believe Michael was the "drug addict" the tabloids and media have been painting for the last decade. These are the very same people that violated him, his life, his privacy, humiliated him, degraded him, abused him, slandered him, remember? They never wrote about all his humanitarian efforts, behind the scenes, which he was doing since he was a kid. I also refuse to believe he would be a professional junkie, when his children were his whole life, he would never do anything so stupid like being a junkie because it would destroy them and leave them without a father. He was a role model for kids around the world. Why would he allow himself to become a "addict" or "junkie"?! He was not an aggressive or violent being. He was soft spoken, calm all the time, even with dozens of cameras shoved in his face every time he left his home. Followed, stalked and violated by the media for many years and NOT one single incident of him ever striking out at any of them, ever. A drug addict would act irrationally, unpredictible, aggressive, even violent.... he was never behaved in any of these manners, ever, during his entire life. Not even during the trials. He was a broken man, for sure, but not one to allow himself to become an "addict". All he wanted was to be left alone, and to spend the rest of his years with his children.

I think the family would have done much more, especially his mom, if he was in fact a drug addict. Sure, he took medications for the Pepsi burn accident, who wouldn't?! As for the alias and all the drug and medical equipment in his house, let's not do what the tabloids want us to do... let's not forget the thousands of sick and terminally ill kids he's had through his home, some for extended stays, he also had a team of doctors when sick kids were staying in his home.

Jackson hasn't "let me down" in any way, if anything, I commend him for sticking up for himself, for fighting back for as long and as hard as he could, against the tabloids, extortionists, disgruntled former employees, those maliscous lawsuits from former staff, record and concert execs (from cancelled events when sick or hurt) and those families trying to extort money from him. People, don't let the tabloids jade and dirty the man he truly was behind the scenes. Don't forget, he's given us over 40 years, hard cord dancing and singing, he was 50 years old, thats a lot of wear and tear on any human body. Don't forget he also had Lupus. A whole book could be written about his battle with Lupus and all it's associated medical problems, ranging from lung problems to butterfly rashes and crusting on his cheeks (hence the masks), muscle and joint pain, inflammation... and so many other issues. He was only human, he suffered financially due to those wanting a piece of him and his money. He suffered public humiliation during those trials, being accused of the most horrific thing that could be done to any child. That would take it's toll on any human, mentally and physically.

I just wish that that Dr. Murray was never hired by AEG and that his family was more insistent on being a part of his come back tour nad his well being. It will all come out, but not anytime soon, what really happened. I do find it difficult to believe he passed a "grueling medical exam" by AEG's insurance company and "passed with flying colors" just before his death. How was that possible, if he was annorexic, dehydrated, his body riddled with "track marks", and was addicted to drugs? Think about that. What insurance company would insure someone for several hundred million dollars if they were a junkie, like the tabloids have been trying to convince us he's been for the last decade.

My thought on all the alias, for the drugs (if really found) in his home at the time of his 'death"... let's not forget again, he gave to many, many sick and terminally ill kids. He paid for procedures, treatments, surgeries, and their medications. I believe that he was also helping that impersonator, in his dying months, and even went so far as to get him all the drugs he needed, to make him as comfortable as possible, under what ever name he could think of.

Another thing that makes me doubt all this tabloid garbage is that the LAPD is now saying they knew Michael was a "drug addict' during his trials, they "knew' he took many drugs as it all came out in witness interviews. My question is, if the LAPD knew about the drugs, the alias, and all that stuff back during the trils, how on earth can they force any kind of criminal investigation now, now that he's dead, and they knew all about the 'pharmacy shopping", "19 alias", the "drug addiction" etc. back then but didn't conduct ANY investigations, didn't file ANY charges back then? Hypocritical to say the least.

Far too many unanswered questions, but I refuse to believe anything the tabloids say at this point. At some time, down the road, the family or his executors, maybe his own kids, may very well tell the world, their story, and about the real man behind the masks. I do know that the world is a worse place without such a gentle, kind, caring, giving person. Much like the death of Princess Di, the tabloids contributed to her down fall and death. Don't believe much of what you read, especially when it comes to Michael Jackson.
 
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OKAY some people really have to face the facts MICHAEL WAS a drug addict.

i swear loads of fans think hes god and cant do anything wrong.

michael had a problem with drugs. end of story.

but he hasnt let me down. im sure if i were like him having people follow you every where you go, not having a childhood, getting up everyday knowing people think your weird and think your a *you no what* i think i would have a drug problem too.


why is someone claiming that MJ is god just cos they dont believe he was a drug addict??? thats so wrong

i feel MJ did have a problem with drugs.. but i may well be wrong cos we havent had the autopsy results yet... but i'd never assume that anyone who disagrees with me is only doing it cos they think he is god!!! jeeeese

i think 99.999999% of fans DO NOT THINK MJ IS GOD so why is this constantly levied at people who are just stating their opinion
 
why is someone claiming that MJ is god just cos they dont believe he was a drug addict??? thats so wrong

i feel MJ did have a problem with drugs.. but i may well be wrong cos we havent had the autopsy results yet... but i'd never assume that anyone who disagrees with me is only doing it cos they think he is god!!! jeeeese

i think 99.999999% of fans DO NOT THINK MJ IS GOD so why is this constantly levied at people who are just stating their opinion

What disappoints me is this. Michael knew this stuff was bad for him, the nurse even told him you couldn't get this drug outside of a hospital setting. Yet he still asked for it.

Ultimately, MJ was responsible for his own death. We are or should be our own health advocates. Yep, that means being educated and open minded when it comes to the stuff we allow to be injected, infused, swallowed. When a health professional tells you something is bad for you, believe it! Don't go hard-headed and want the drug anyway!
 
What disappoints me is this. Michael knew this stuff was bad for him, the nurse even told him you couldn't get this drug outside of a hospital setting. Yet he still asked for it.

Ultimately, MJ was responsible for his own death. We are or should be our own health advocates. Yep, that means being educated and open minded when it comes to the stuff we allow to be injected, infused, swallowed. When a health professional tells you something is bad for you, believe it! Don't go hard-headed and want the drug anyway!


yeah i totally agree with this. but then IMO MJ was never in his right mind after the trial to realise what he was actually doing.. or logically think things through... he needed alot of help.. but thats just my opinion

what does get me annoyed is people just saying "oh stop saying he's god" just cos they don't beleieve the drugs stuff.. or have any different opinion to the majority.. people are entitled to an opinion without constantly being slapped with the "god" tag... as i said before.. THE MAJORITY OF FANS DO NOT THINK HE IS GOD
 
OKAY some people really have to face the facts MICHAEL WAS a drug addict.


i swear loads of fans think hes god and cant do anything wrong.


michael had a problem with drugs. end of story.


but he hasnt let me down. im sure if i were like him having people follow you every where you go, not having a childhood, getting up everyday knowing people think your weird and think your a *you no what* i think i would have a drug problem too.

*****If you'll give me the facts I may agree with you. So what are the facts, proof that MJ was an addict. I mean real evidence. Not what the media is reporting with our public sources.
***** Loads of us find Michael to be a human being with all the flaws we all have. Yet we also see the many wonderful virtues that made him MJ. I can't speak for everyone else. But I accept MJ for who he is, with flaws and all. SOME OF US JUST WANT PROOF on any issue that to blindly believe what is reported in the media, which is about 95% false. Especially when it comes to MJ due to sensationalism and selling tabloid trash and people making up trash.
***** I guess we are not as lucky as you are to know this so confidently. I guess you have seen MJ take drugs, be high, and all that right. Lucky you to see that.
****** I am glad that you share my opinion that he hasn't let anyone down. you do seem to understand the trials of life that MJ has face since age 5. I hope you don't find anything I have written disrespectful. It is not intended to be disrespectful.
 
What disappoints me is this. Michael knew this stuff was bad for him, the nurse even told him you couldn't get this drug outside of a hospital setting. Yet he still asked for it.

Ultimately, MJ was responsible for his own death. We are or should be our own health advocates. Yep, that means being educated and open minded when it comes to the stuff we allow to be injected, infused, swallowed. When a health professional tells you something is bad for you, believe it! Don't go hard-headed and want the drug anyway!



Do you know all this is fact? Have you seen the evidence? Do you have first hand knowledge of everything you stated in your post? Are you a law enforcement official or family member with direct knowledge of these things? Or, do you simply believe everything the tabloids and media have been pounding into our heads, in our faces, over the last decade, regarding Michael Jackson, in their bid to make money off him, his name, his image, the "inside secrets" of him and his life? I hope you too have a book coming out to share with his fans, with the world, of all the secrets, the facts, information of his private life, and to tell us who the real man Michael Jackson was, based on your eye witness accounts and not based on what the tabloids and media have told us?
 
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i will choose to be objective at this moment
too many rumors are flying around .
but i don't feel let down even if it is true.
he is not perfect.like Marlon said in the memorial service,'How much one can take?'
 
If, and I mean if, the recent leaked toxicology reports are true, it means that Michael was trying to get a good nights sleep and suffering from stress. That is not being a drug addict. Michael was not snorting coke in a bathroom or shooting up heroin, he was trying to get a good nights sleep and trying to keep calm. Both of which are quite common complaints for many people at some time in their lives.

I've had periods on sleeping tablets before, would any of you call me a drug addict for that?
 
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