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We have learned in the past that it was Debbie's decision for the children to go out in veils in order to protect their anonymity. I wonder where she stands currently on the amount of videos and photos of the children being leaked?
I'm surprised her name hasn't been brought up already in all of this.
 
i also want to know about that.but i don't have any hope from her.i just respect her because she gave Michael what he wanted and when he needed it most .he paid for that but that is another issue.she always respect Michaels wishes.
 
Yes, and I think the fact that she has said nothing now says a lot about her.
What is her position in the children's lives? She got legal visitation?
 
She hasn't been able to visit them as of now.. quiet frankly I doubt she cares much tbh
 
twinklEE said:
She hasn't been able to visit them as of now.. quiet frankly I doubt she cares much tbh
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Are you sure? I thought she has seen them?

I think she hasn't been brought up in public because she is a very private person, maybe she's said something in private who knows?
 
A surrogate doesn't see the kids. She give birth, she receive money for the job, and that's it.

A surrogate is not family.
 
Tsukiji said:
Are you sure? I thought she has seen them?

I think she hasn't been brought up in public because she is a very private person, maybe she's said something in private who knows?
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No she hasn't seen them
 
Come on, I think we should cut Debbie a break. We do not know what is going on behind the scenes. We really do not know. But what I do know is she could have kicked up a stink over a lot of things over the years to make things difficult for Michael/Katherine and the kids but she hasn't. I really don't think she's all bad. Can we keep this in mind before this thread gets out of control please? Thankyou. :flowers:
 
StaceyMJ said:
Come on, I think we should cut Debbie a break. We do not know what is going on behind the scenes. We really do not know. But what I do know is she could have kicked up a stink over a lot of things over the years to make things difficult for Michael/Katherine and the kids but she hasn't. I really don't think she's all bad. Can we keep this in mind before this thread gets out of control please? Thankyou. :flowers:
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I agree Stacey. So many people around Michael have shown their true colours, in particular Dr. Klein. Debbie is dignified and really seems to have his best interests and the kids' best interests at heart. I think she is a good person.
I'm just wondering how she is feeling about all this.
Diplomate, a surrogate is not listed on the birth certificate. Debbie Rowe is Prince and Paris's mother, whether she has been in their lives or not. Of course she cares.
 
i think it is difficult to compare wife (or ex-wife) and husband relationship to that between an ex- and a mother in law...i'm sure the understanding between them will be more difficult..Debbie and MJ knew each other for 30 years and there must be some kind of understanding and respect for each other's wishes...
but between a mother in law and ex.spousal ...it is very difficult.
 
What I would like to know is, why is Lisa Marie allowed inside to visit Michael's resting place but Debbie Rowe has to stay outside like the fans? This women gave birth to two of Michael's kids. I think she has every right to go inside more then an ex-wife who bashed Michael in nearly every interview.

Mind you I like Lisa a bit, but The Jackson's confuse me at times. This is what has me wondering since Thursday.....lol

Let me add Debbie was not just "some surrogate". Michael knew her for 25 years. He married her. You don't just married a surrogate. Granted you can tell they were not madly in love or anything, but I don't think she should be treated as just some "surrogate".
 
I was going to stay out of this but I just can't. Debbie Rowe was invited to Michael's funeral but instead of going she asked for a private moment to say goodbye to Michael which the Jacksons said no to and I can't blame them. Debbie had her lawyer help the estate are you serious? You are aware of the fact he tried to bill the estate for work on Debbie's custody deal? Come on get real. Should Debbie see her kids of course she should will she see her kids? I doubt it because I truly don't think Debbie wants to. Michael never had an issue of Debbie seeing the kids it was Debbie who kept stalling when it was bought up that she and Michael should go to a phycologist. Michael wanted too she kept stalling why is that? And id you don't beleive me it is all in the custody paperwork go read it and see what she was up too. Why is Lisa allowed to go see Michael and she is not? Well Debbie should not be allowed in Michael's grave or be left alone with the kids until she gets rid of Marc S.
 
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first of all she is not allowed to see her kids and to his funeral etc. " yes she cares for her kids she just wasn't allowed a few times to see them because of the people who controlled him MJ had enough and let them people go this is another story.the family do need time to heal the reason and she only agree to give Mrs. Jackson the kids so she can have parts of her son life still with her and the money cause they wanted to take everything from his mom that's why debbie had her lawyer help his estate cause they milked MJ badly. As for Debbie and Mrs. Jackson they never had any beefs always respect each other just the media loves to lie they meant in private to handle the kids conditions. Why the kids where protected with veils because she had gotten death threats “they” threaten to hang her by her neck because she gave this black man some kids they been after MJ for years ever sense he made his deal during the thriller era then flip out on them during the bad era this is where things got serious with him. Debbie did what she could nothing more nothing less the only way MJ was able to be protected only if she left him and let him raised the kids she knew MJ fate on this earth she knew about all the killing plots, racism and all that he had to face he was nothing but a N word to them people nothing but a poppet they really thought she was going to be the one to help them in there plot witch failed what did for him was real and from the heart something the media tries to play out. Its really hard to address so much because she is private I will respect that I personally feel what stays in the dark comes out to the light many will be in shock by the truth some any ready know what it is. This industry is not joke once you sign over your life they have control of you family, friends etc MJ and Debbie wasn't going out like that good for them on there part sadly others failed MJ he had to find out on June 25, 2010

1’m out ~100 emotional reck
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Oh please no one controlled Michael she gave up her rights because she said Michael was always gone and the nannies did not like what she bought the kids gift wise. You can dress it any kind of dressing you want but Debbie did things in 03 until 05 that are just foul
 
Debbie was the one who made sure that Extra didnt air part 2 of their MJ is gay story because its not good for her kids to hear that sort of BS.
 
I personally would not jump into conclusions about why Debbie hasn't seen the kids. 1) because we don't know for a fact that whether she has seen them or not and 2) we don't know the details.

I remember mention of a psychologist. The kids are dealing with a loss of a parent and they might not be ready to meet with her. The psychologist can feel like they are not in a suitable mindset to meet with Debbie (it's not easy to say "hey here's your mother that you didn't see for 10+ years") or could have a slow and step by step introduction such as letters , phone calls first. We don't know the details.

and I also must say that I like Debbie just because she always defended Michael. ( I also feel like she was defending him on the use of veils by saying she asked for it).
 
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Michael himself is the one who put Marc S. in Debbie's way...we do not know what they made her sign when she thought they were representing Michael...and by the way, the body language between her and Marc is the same between Michel and Tohme.

For LMP ,,,the Jacksons are afraid of her classy tongue , look waht she did to MJ when he was fighting to raise his kids,,,what do you think that she was going to say about them to the media if they said NO and destroyed her agenda to become he New late King wifey like mama.
 
prettygirlmj said:
What I would like to know is, why is Lisa Marie allowed inside to visit Michael's resting place but Debbie Rowe has to stay outside like the fans? This women gave birth to two of Michael's kids. I think she has every right to go inside more then an ex-wife who bashed Michael in nearly every interview.
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Really? I think thats crap Debbie can't visit inside, I've never heard that before. Debbie knew Michael like all of us wish we knew Michael. It's unfair that so many people think of her as just a surrogate. You know what, My mother had a "surrogate" she gave her LIFE. That's A Huge gift. A bigger gift then anyone could ever give someone. Without my mothers "surrogate" I wouldn't be here. Do you think I appriciate her? Heck yeah! I'd love to meet the woman just to say THANK YOU. It really irritates me when people think that means nothing.

None us "know" Debbie or so its really unfair to act like we know all the details to everything going on. Or at least pretend too. That part also irritates me.
 
some people have a great selective memory, they LOVE to forger what

LMP said about MJ from 2003 untill 2008.

and what

Debbie said about MJ from 2003 untill 2008.

i was young during these two marriages but after reading what both said ...hands down, i choose Debbie,,,although i was very hard on her in other forums but few weeks ago i read what she said in the court under the oath,,and i developed a new respect for her.
 
Ohood said:
Michael himself is the one who put Marc S. in Debbie's way...we do not know what they made her sign when she thought they were representing Michael...and by the way, the body language between her and Marc is the same between Michel and Tohme.

For LMP ,,,the Jacksons are afraid of her classy tongue , look waht she did to MJ when he was fighting to raise his kids,,,what do you think that she was going to say about them to the media if they said NO and destroyed her agenda to become he New late King wifey like mama.
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She called him an opportunistic vulture and said he was full of it. No one made her sign anything. Now you sound like Sneddon. He was so bad but he is your best friend? You don't have a problem with that? You have any idea what that man said about Michael?
 
The only reason MJ married Debbie is because Katherine didnt want MJ's kids being born out of wedlock.
 
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And who says she is not allowed in to see Michael's grave?
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Well if she is allowed inside, why didnt she go inside when the fans were there and she was holding up their T-Shirts? Why didn't she go to the funeral?
 
Ok, I am just going to say it here. Let's not turn this thread into a bash thread as well. This thread isn't even about LMP. If people feel the need to discuss her, they are free to create another thread doing so. This thread is about Debbie and her relationship with the kids. let's keep the discussion civil, please.
 
ginvid said:
Ok, I am just going to say it here. Let's not turn this thread into a bash thread as well. This thread isn't even about LMP. If people feel the need to discuss her, they are free to create another thread doing so. This thread is about Debbie and her relationship with the kids. let's keep the discussion civil, please.
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Havent you heard? Everyone in MJs life is worth attacking.:scratch:
 
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