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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chinese fans in Xi'an, China demonstrate against HBO and so-called documentary <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StopLeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StopLeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BoycottHBO?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BoycottHBO</a> There are more protests to come around China!! <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMJCast?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheMJCast</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@andjustice4some</a> <a href="https://t.co/chmFj5zadG">pic.twitter.com/chmFj5zadG</a></p>&mdash; Keen Zhang (@mkgenie) <a href="https://twitter.com/mkgenie/status/1095697828934897664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">13. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse myself, I tried to warn them about those two . The shiny apple &#127822; was just too tempting. <a href="https://t.co/HOlXKpcQWj">https://t.co/HOlXKpcQWj</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1095554648935526406?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">13. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Because not only am I presumed to be innocent, I *am* innocent.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/myDE1LFaiW">pic.twitter.com/myDE1LFaiW</a></p>&mdash; &#120008;. (@movingvioIation) <a href="https://twitter.com/movingvioIation/status/1083386735751516161?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. Januar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael's legacy lives. <a href="https://t.co/qTg5rDy4Jr">https://t.co/qTg5rDy4Jr</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1095516441057452032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">13. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let's hope the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> tribute from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Motown60?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Motown60</a> special isn't cut from the show when it airs in April! <a href="https://t.co/IJtIrcgutV">https://t.co/IJtIrcgutV</a></p>&mdash; sanemjfan (@sanemjfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/sanemjfan/status/1095685226775359489?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">13. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's an excellent article that needs to be spread far and wide! It's about time someone holds the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/metoo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#metoo</a> movement accountable! <a href="https://t.co/icG7980FQo">https://t.co/icG7980FQo</a></p>&mdash; sanemjfan (@sanemjfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/sanemjfan/status/1095674293889974273?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">13. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/tbt?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#tbt</a> picture is too good to wait until Thursday...Bc <a href="https://twitter.com/michaeljackson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@michaeljackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/teamtiff?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#teamtiff</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/teammj?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#teammj</a> <a href="https://t.co/WyRpZH75xj">pic.twitter.com/WyRpZH75xj</a></p>&mdash; Tiffany (@tiffanytunes) <a href="https://twitter.com/tiffanytunes/status/1095442623026753536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">12. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JusticeforMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JusticeforMJ</a> This is evil &#128545; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/justiceforMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#justiceforMJ</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Repost?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Repost</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BJackson82?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BJackson82</a><br>&#12539;&#12539;&#12539;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LiesRunSprintsButTheTruthRunsMarathons?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LiesRunSprintsButTheTruthRunsMarathons</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IOnlySpeakTheTruth?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IOnlySpeakTheTruth</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WadeRobsonIsALiar?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WadeRobsonIsALiar</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJIsInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJIsInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JusticeforMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JusticeforMJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/OsWX54ru0D">https://t.co/OsWX54ru0D</a></p>&mdash; Shanice (@Shaniceonline) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shaniceonline/status/1095084895129358337?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">11. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I bet they won’t either. The Estate needs to get on this with a STRONGER MESSAGE! THIS HAS TO BE STOPPED NOW! <a href="https://t.co/6dxZHDigha">https://t.co/6dxZHDigha</a></p>&mdash; Brenda Harvey Richie (@BrendaRichie) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrendaRichie/status/1095121892845875200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">12. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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Paris78;4241025 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Your daily reminder that Wade Robson and Jimmy Safechuck are two *self-confessed* liars and perjurers who *
only* remembered they were abused when one of them lost out on a job to pay tribute to MJ in a Cirque De Soleil show in 2013, and filed a civil case for multiple-millions... <a href="https://t.co/lWyLPovOy8">https://t.co/lWyLPovOy8</a></p>&mdash; Samar @TheMJAP (@TheMJAP) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMJAP/status/1095646945157279744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">13. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/danreed1000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DanReed1000</a> Have a good look at their faces, Dan. Have a think about all the pain they’ve been through. Did you stop to reflect on the real, human impact of your movie when choosing to give a platform to two obvious and self-admitted liars? How much value did you place on truth? <a href="https://t.co/oJyZTbjLUf">pic.twitter.com/oJyZTbjLUf</a></p>&mdash; Jamon Bull (@JamonBull) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamonBull/status/1095658143378370560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">13. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I mean, let alone the fact that Michael Jackson was probably the most investigated man in recent American history with an FBI file over a 10-year span.<br><br>They found NOTHING.<br><br>But, yeah, maybe they should have got the Law &amp; Order scriptwriters in or something...!</p>&mdash; Samar @TheMJAP (@TheMJAP) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMJAP/status/1095435493444120582?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">12. Februar 2019</a></blockquote>
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I wouldn't worry too much about this Matt Lucas turd.

"Can never remember the name of that moonwalk guy. You know, the one with the chimp & all the sleepovers with kids. Sort of black then white"

Clearly a hater and absolutely nothing but a hater. **** him to hell. One person responds and says it's odd that they would lie under oath and this turd says you should watch it, you get all the answers.

I do hope it's not true about the grammies. That tribute sure sounds great and if it was canned because of THIS..... Why don't people do some fact checking? In what ****ing kind of world are we living?
 
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.s...g-complaints-amid-fresh-abuse-claims-11636159

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This is great. I don't read Dutch news but I wonder if the big statue in Eindhoven, Best is still standing. If I had to say I think it is.

I'm not surprised by the way about people saying the documentary is horrible and what not. Oh I bet, any sane person would feel disgusted about the stories being told here.

The problem is, these people should look up the facts about these liars.
 
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One person responds and says it's odd that they would lie under oath and this turd says you should watch it, you get all the answers.


NO, that is what he wants to see. these guys have been defending Jackson way back since 1993 to 2012 and now lying to get MILLIONS which they lost even in two law suits. A lying doc will never take away in what a COURT heard upfront without a camera to pander to like roll'em, play, action.
 
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Hilarious.
 
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Proudly wearing my Dangerous Tour t-shirt today. Feels just like being back in 2005, just not quite as bad.
 
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Somone whrote on youtube when MJ whould have been gay or a pedophile back in 90ies he could have rent a guy from sunset boulevard instead of choosing wade who lived in australia.^^
It whould have been really much easier for him to have a constant sexual relationship with a guy liveing near to him over so many years instead of letting always fly Wade in the long expensive way from australia.^^
I think this is a good point!
It makes no sense.
I think its also very uncommon for pedophiles in genaral to choose a victim which lives so far away from them.
Does someone know dates when the Robsons constantly lived in australia and when in usa?
I think only the time period is interesting when wade was 7 - 14!
Where did the interview in 1993 with wades family took place?
 
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Michael Jackson is Back: Danish Mall Reverses Removal

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/8498184/michael-jackson-statue-back-danish-mall

Denmark’s oldest shopping mall has reversed its decision not to exhibit a statue of Michael Jackson.

Jesper Andreasen, manager of the Roedovre Centrum mall in suburban Copenhagen, says on Facebook it was “an overreaction” to remove the statue, adding the late singer “has never been found guilty of any of the accusations against him.”

The statue was taken out after about 15 online complaints, mostly from families with children, fearing it could offend customers and may be vandalized because of allegations that Jackson molested boys.


The mall is displaying wax statues of major stars, including Marilyn Monroe and Julia Roberts, on a central square to coincide with Danish schools’ weeklong winter break that started Monday. The Jackson figure was back Wednesday (Feb. 13).
 
ILoveHIStory;4241045 said:
Michael Jackson is Back: Danish Mall Reverses Removal

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Denmark&#8217;s oldest shopping mall has reversed its decision not to exhibit a statue of Michael Jackson.

Jesper Andreasen, manager of the Roedovre Centrum mall in suburban Copenhagen, says on Facebook it was &#8220;an overreaction&#8221; to remove the statue, adding the late singer &#8220;has never been found guilty of any of the accusations against him.&#8221;

The statue was taken out after about 15 online complaints, mostly from families with children, fearing it could offend customers and may be vandalized because of allegations that Jackson molested boys.


The mall is displaying wax statues of major stars, including Marilyn Monroe and Julia Roberts, on a central square to coincide with Danish schools&#8217; weeklong winter break that started Monday. The Jackson figure was back Wednesday (Feb. 13).
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And those little 15 oneline people are probably trolls or people who know Wade, James, and Dan.
 
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ALL THOSE FAKE BS STORIES ARE NOW DEBUNKED, AND IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME WHEN ALL THOSE REAL PEDOS FROM MJFACTS AND ROBSON, SAFECHUCK AND REED WILL STAND IN FRONT OF THE TRIAL, Evidence is outthere:
1/ https://themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2018/09/23/the-wade-robson-allegations/
2/ http://dailymichael.com/lawsuits/robson-v-estate
3/ https://mjjjusticeproject.wordpress.com/
4/ FBI Files: archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/stories/2009/december/jackson_122209
+ https://vault.fbi.gov/Michael Jackson
5/ TWITTER sources:
https://twitter.com/JuliaBerkowitz1
https://twitter.com/andjustice4some
https://twitter.com/Hammertonhal

https://twitter.com/JoeVogel1
https://twitter.com/MJJRepository?
 
The we-wanna-MJ-be-guilty agenda continues.... by RO

Lie Detection Expert Exposes Michael Jackson&#8217;s Lies In Shocking Molestation Testimony
***** pedophile fibbed 'about many things in the 1996 interview,' says specialist.

Michael Jackson Opens a New Window. was hiding the truth when he was grilled about being a perverted pedophile, RadarOnline.com can exclusively reveal!

That&#8217;s the conclusion of lie-detection expert Michael Sylvestre, who reviewed shocking video footage Opens a New Window. of the &#8220;Leave Me Alone&#8221; singer&#8217;s 1996 deposition, where lawyers interrogated the hitmaker about his alleged inappropriate relationships with young boys!

PHOTOS: Inside Michael Jackson&#8217;s Twisted World: &#8216;Frightening&#8217; Raid Evidence Exposed Opens a New Window.

&#8220;He&#8217;s just spouting lies as he&#8217;s talking, and you see that in the charts!&#8221; Sylvestre concluded.

Appearing with his signature black fedora and surgically deformed nose, the King of Pop &#8212; then 37 &#8212; nervously giggled and squirmed in his chair Opens a New Window. during the March 1, 1996, interrogation while he denied sexually violating actor Macaulay Culkin Opens a New Window. and two other underage boys!

PHOTOS: Michael Jackson: Through the Years Opens a New Window.

Macaulay, now 38, has long insisted Jackson never molested him, the damning deposition&#8217;s release comes on the heels of the documentary &#8220;Leaving Neverland,&#8221; in which two men &#8212; Wade Robson and James Safechuck &#8212; charged the singer raped them when they were children!

The music legend &#8212; who died from a prescription drug overdose in 2009 &#8212; bizarrely giggled, raised his hand to his ear and yawned when asked about the allegations. He even declared: &#8220;Jesus said to love the children and be like children. Be youthful, be innocent, be pure and honorable.&#8221;

PHOTOS: Michael Jackson&#8217;s Secret Ex-Lover Tells All: He Wasn&#8217;t An &#8216;Asexual&#8217; &#8216;Man Child!&#8217; Opens a New Window.

The &#8220;Beat It&#8221; singer&#8217;s strange responses were run through Sylvestre&#8217;s &#8220;DecepTech Voice Stress Analysis Machine,&#8221; which printed out elevated lines on a chart when it detected Jackson was being deceptive.

At one point, the machine spiked when Sylvestre said the chart-topper&#8217;s voice &#8220;reaches a state of panic&#8221; as he declared he wanted to &#8220;set the record straight,&#8221; and denied being gay, bleaching his skin and molesting children!

PHOTOS: Inside Michael Jackson&#8217;s Twisted Closet Of Secrets Opens a New Window.

&#8220;He knows he&#8217;s essentially telling a lie because he refuses to set anything straight,&#8221; Sylvestre told Radar.

The meter on the device spiked again when the performer blurted out: &#8220;If people hear a lie long enough, people believe it. People have lied on me. I&#8217;m a black American, and I&#8217;m proud of it &#8230; I don&#8217;t bleach my skin.&#8221;

&#8220;He&#8217;s absolutely lying about that,&#8221; Sylvestre said. &#8220;When he denies bleaching his skin, the chart clearly shows deception!&#8221;

We pay for juicy info! Do you have a story for RadarOnline.com? Email us at tips@radaronline.com, or call us at 800-344-9598 any time, day or night.
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Does anyone know whether I can post this picture under tweets of haters? Because sometimes I just really am out of words. This pic would really be a relief, but I guess it violates twitter rules, doesn't it?

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One thing I don't like at all is......where's Beyonce, Akon, Chris Tucker, Celine Dion etc? Why don't they show support via social media? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Tucker and Akon have no doubts but still.....

I do wonder about one thing...

As for this mockumentary.... so far we've only seen the reaction of media people and haters, who already had their mind made up. They have made it crystal clear that they have no interest in the real truth. These idiots are thanking them for sharing their story and bla ****ing bla.

What will the general public do? I'm sure a lot will watch it, will they end the mockumentary with doubts and has them going online to see the other side of the story or will they be just as idiotic as all these people that have seen it? This shit has the potential to definitely damage his legacy. Will the majority of people have the "willpower" (if that's the right word) to look up the other side of the story?
 
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Hm.. how much did the paper pay this Sylverstre guy for saying this and how far away from an real expert is he?
The report is full of lies and the descriptions are taken out of context!
 
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According to Geraldine Hughes in the documentary they spend 1 or 2 hours of the film explaining why W&S lied in court etc. They have expert who assures this is perfectly normal for "survivors for sexual abuse" etc. So we have to be aware they have planned it very well, to counter the theory about them lying before. Imagine having that long of time to manipulate the viewer.

Of course they wont get into details about all of Wades lies/contradictions - that would be impossible to defend. But the general person, will just believe what the experts in the film are saying about why they lied. I suspect that will make them unwilling and deaf to all other contradictions and suspect behavior by these 2 con mans.

Further more, with a 5 week break between sundance and the TV broadcast, Wade & Safechuck will have time to study the critical views and prepare themselves with more lies as they most surely are set to go on a PR tour when it airs on TV. They will be wanted on all TV-shows when shit hits the fan!
 
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it's all about money. How many real friends did he have. These people are so scared about their image. Not true friends IMO
 
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According to Geraldine Hughes in the documentary they spend 1 or 2 hours of the film explaining why W&S lied in court etc. They have expert who assures this is perfectly normal for "survivors for sexual abuse" etc. So we have to be aware they have planned it very well, to counter the theory about them lying before. Imagine having that long of time to manipulate the viewer.

Of course they wont get into details about all of Wades lies/contradictions - that would be impossible to defend. But the general person, will just believe what the experts in the film are saying about why they lied. I suspect that will make them unwilling and deaf to all other contradictions and suspect behavior by these 2 con mans.

Further more, with a 5 week break between sundance and the TV broadcast, Wade & Safechuck will have time to study the critical views and prepare themselves with more lies as they most surely are set to go on a PR tour when it airs on TV. They will be wanted on all TV-shows when shit hits the fan!
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Those so called experts are full of it. No one who is reminded that much about abuse is going to do what these guys do. Lets look at from someone who is really guilty. NO REALLY GUILTY PERSON is going to ASKED someone they are abusing to come to court WILLINGLY to testify about not abusing them knowing good and well they have to be "cross exmine". In MJ's case, these nuts think MJ would do that if he was really guilty knowing Wade and everyone is in front of the WORLD and MEDIA and have to do this cross examine from two zealous DA's? Look how Tmez was able to break down the DA's lying/coached witnesses under cross. That wont fly. This is where TMez can come out and speak. You think Tmez would do such a thing? NO.
 
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Those so called experts are full of it. No one who is reminded that much about abuse is going to do what these guys do. Lets look at from someone who is really guilty. NO REALLY GUILTY PERSON is going to ASKED someone they are abusing to come to court WILLINGLY to testify about not abusing them knowing good and well they have to be "cross exmine". In MJ's case, these nuts think MJ would do that if he was really guilty knowing Wade and everyone is in front of the WORLD and MEDIA and have to do this cross examine from two zealous DA's? Look how Tmez was able to break down the DA's lying/coached witnesses under cross. That wont fly. This is where TMez can come out and speak. You think Tmez would do such a thing? NO.
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And dont forget Michael were OK with the Robsons family doing TV-interviews WITHOUT MJ present in 1993 during a time Robson claims he was ACTIVELY ABUSED/RAPED. If MJ had been abusing Wade for 6 years by then, it would be lunacy to take that risk!

I believe MJ had not see Robson in like 6 years face to face before he testified 2005, so that must also have been lunacy on MJs apart if he had molested Wade.
 
Lightbringer;4241059 said:
According to Geraldine Hughes in the documentary they spend 1 or 2 hours of the film explaining why W&S lied in court etc. They have expert who assures this is perfectly normal for "survivors for sexual abuse" etc. So we have to be aware they have planned it very well, to counter the theory about them lying before. Imagine having that long of time to manipulate the viewer.

Of course they wont get into details about all of Wades lies/contradictions - that would be impossible to defend. But the general person, will just believe what the experts in the film are saying about why they lied. I suspect that will make them unwilling and deaf to all other contradictions and suspect behavior by these 2 con mans.

Further more, with a 5 week break between sundance and the TV broadcast, Wade & Safechuck will have time to study the critical views and prepare themselves with more lies as they most surely are set to go on a PR tour when it airs on TV. They will be wanted on all TV-shows when shit hits the fan!
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I agree the general person would have reacted like that back in the 90s or so but a lot have happend since then and I hope people are more critical to &#8221;experts&#8221; today after many cases has been proved that innocent people was convicted because of &#8221;memory experts&#8221; etc. I am swedish to and maybe you know what I mean then I say this remind me of the Quick trials in a way and maybe you heard about&#8221;fallet Ulf&#8221; book, not the real name of the father. I mean Quick was a clearly disturbed person but he wasn&#8217;t a murderer.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sture_Bergwall
 
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Thanks for the twitter message links, just read many of them and people (I think it's not just fans but also reasonable individuals) are doing a very good job at educating the haters. Thank you and kudos to everyone! :punk:

What's clearly visible is that those who publicize this 'docu' are making plain propaganda (either they are upright paid to do so or in other ways connected, like employed by HBO). But the way they are doing it is just plain ridiculous - 'powerful' 'watch the film' 'powerful' 'watch the film' - repeating the same things over and over like idiots (and what a Freudian slip to call it a film).

TBH it's a bit strange, the whole thing is so obviously orchestrated but in the same time so badly.

There's a 'director' proudly stating his 'film' is as one-sided as possible.
'Influencers' who don't even try to hide the fact that are doing product placement by copy pasting from the same script.
And we have HBO basically saying they know about the 'credibility issues' but they don't care.

In a normal situation any actors in this farce could be held (at least at a certain level) accountable for the above.
Why are they so confident they can get away with all this?
 
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ozemouze said:
Thanks for the twitter message links, just read many of them and people (I think it's not just fans but also reasonable individuals) are doing a very good job at educating the haters. Thank you and kudos to everyone! :punk:

What's clearly visible is that those who publicize this 'docu' are making plain propaganda (either they are upright paid to do so or in other ways connected, like employed by HBO). But the way they are doing it is just plain ridiculous - 'powerful' 'watch the film' 'powerful' 'watch the film' - repeating the same things over and over like idiots (and what a Freudian slip to call it a film).

TBH it's a bit strange, the whole thing is so obviously orchestrated but in the same time so badly.

There's a 'director' proudly stating his 'film' is as one-sided as possible.
'Influencers' who don't even try to hide the fact that are doing product placement by copy pasting from the same script.
And we have HBO basically saying they know about the 'credibility issues' but they don't care.

In a normal situation any actors in this farce could be held (at least at a certain level) accountable for the above.
Why are they so confident they can get away with all this?
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You just posted my exact thoughts on the matter, they clearly have friends in dangerous places
 
Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Lightbringer said:
According to Geraldine Hughes in the documentary they spend 1 or 2 hours of the film explaining why W&S lied in court etc. They have expert who assures this is perfectly normal for "survivors for sexual abuse" etc. So we have to be aware they have planned it very well, to counter the theory about them lying before. Imagine having that long of time to manipulate the viewer.

Of course they wont get into details about all of Wades lies/contradictions - that would be impossible to defend. But the general person, will just believe what the experts in the film are saying about why they lied. I suspect that will make them unwilling and deaf to all other contradictions and suspect behavior by these 2 con mans.

Further more, with a 5 week break between sundance and the TV broadcast, Wade & Safechuck will have time to study the critical views and prepare themselves with more lies as they most surely are set to go on a PR tour when it airs on TV. They will be wanted on all TV-shows when shit hits the fan!
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Oh I see, they're gonna play it like that huh? Doesn't surprise me at all. I'm sure they will find some people gullible enough that will fall for it too.

The thing with Robson especially is his history of lying. Not just only during the trial and in his lawsuit but also about his girlfriend. How he insisted on doing the cirque part, how he wanted to be so badly at the memorial, in the opus.

Dude just **** off (Robson) seriously just **** off with your bullshit. What are their excuses gonna be about all what I mentioned? And how many gullible souls are gonna fall for it?

****ing hell man. My tipping point has been reached for today. I've had it.
 
Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

ISNT THIS SAD? WHAT MAKES A PERSON LIKE WADE DO THIS? HE WAS MICHAELS FRIEND!

i really dont understand and it makes me sick. whats wrong in this world that things like this happen.

How can Wade even sleep at night? Will he ever be able to get happy after all this shit he is creating now?

All his proofen lies? Doesnt he care? Where does this strong hate towards the Jacksons come from just few years after MJs death?

What changes peoples mind so crazy as a part of the inner Jackson circle?

i will never understand this. what a disappointment. poor Michael.

Wade, go to tell.
 
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