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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dumbest documentary ever! A very poor documentary and a wack way to spill lies on a legend! R.I.P. <a href="https://t.co/vjNHbQz4DD">https://t.co/vjNHbQz4DD</a></p>&mdash; PETEROCK.COM (@PeteRock) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteRock/status/1186945266487676928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I posted about <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> months ago, how something seemed off with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> and now my twitter just exploded. The man suffered major trauma. I think <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SquareOneMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SquareOneMJ</a> finally talks about that. Shameless cash grabs are just that. Shameless.</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Emmette (@JeffreyEmmette) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffreyEmmette/status/1186739336521441281?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">22. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> Since I love you most, here is coupon for 5 Euro off - can be used for all products - Michael Jackson t-shirts, hoodies, beanies, socks, even the MJFam bracelet &#10084;&#65039;&#128536;&#10084;&#65039;<br>P.S. While the regular visitors get 10% with this coupon you get up to 50% off &#128523;<a href="https://t.co/9la3mW4hM7">https://t.co/9la3mW4hM7</a> <a href="https://t.co/xUDu0MVpw3">pic.twitter.com/xUDu0MVpw3</a></p>&mdash; Monika (@boAgienessy) <a href="https://twitter.com/boAgienessy/status/1187027908818288640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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michael went through a lot of trauma in his life. he really should of got the help that he needed. but he is innocent.
 
analogue said:
I think we should send this to the radio stations who stopped playing MJ's music after LN. Let them know that the public has spoken, and want Michael Jackson back on the radio.
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Definitely, MJ is always on my local station, it was weird because I was watching a documentary on MJ this afternoon (I've posted in another thread) and they were playing Billie Jean, I paused it and Billie Jean was on the radio as well lol, how strange is that :laughing:
 
NatureCriminal7896 said:
Fans worrying about how estate won't release unrelease songs etc while they doing best to save Michael legacy. while i do care about unrelease stuff we all need to accept fact Michael is gone. there will never be any new etc yes the stuff in vault but that's it. so what we gonna do once they give us all that stuff? lol.

anyway i might not like how estate do their business with somethings that have to do with MJ but this right here is historic moment and i praise them for their time and effort to save Michael legacy.
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You mustn't forget that his fans are also keeping MJs legacy alive, when I'm driving I have Michaels music on loud so that people outside know I'm an MJ fan lol
 
Big Apple NYC said:
Not that it really matters, BUT I have never even heard of the "Global TV Demand Awards."

Anywho, Dan Reed doesn't what some no named award. Dan Reed wanted to win ALL of the Best Director Awards, so just like Leonardo DiCaprio in Titanic, Reed could stand at the front of the ship, while screaming: "I'm The King Of The World!!!"

I don't know who wants to be an International Superstar more: Reed or Robson!
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How about reed stand in front of a train, that would be better
 
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Not that it really matters, BUT I have never even heard of the "Global TV Demand Awards."

Anywho, Dan Reed doesn't what some no named award. Dan Reed wanted to win ALL of the Best Director Awards, so just like Leonardo DiCaprio in Titanic, Reed could stand at the front of the ship, while screaming: "I'm The King Of The World!!!"

I don't know who wants to be an International Superstar more: Reed or Robson!
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To prove your point, almost unbelievably, LN is apparently in the running for yet another award (I expect this one might be another self-nominated award):
LN should be disqualified from all doc awards, as the stories are most certainly not 'non-fiction'.

IDA Documentary Awards: &#8216;Leaving Neverland&#8217;, &#8216;American Factory&#8217;, &#8216;Apollo 11&#8217; & &#8216;For Sama&#8217; Among Contenders

The nominees for the 2019 International Documentary Association (IDA) Awards have been unveiled, with several of this year&#8217;s most high-profile docs in the frame.

HBO&#8217;s Leaving Neverland, which is currently embroiled in a lawsuit from the estate of Michael Jackson, is up for best multi-part documentary.

The IDA received 785 submissions including 375 documentary features, 153 documentary shorts, 124 documentary series, 89 student films, 48 music documentaries and 44 podcasts. A record 40% of submissions were international productions or co-productions.

&#8220;The IDA Documentary Awards recognizes excellence in nonfiction storytelling across a range of forms, and all of this year&#8217;s nominees and winners illustrate that documentary storytelling is one of the most vital art forms today,&#8221; said Simon Kilmurry, executive director of the IDA.

&#8220;With the addition of the Best Director Award, the IDA is making an important statement. We felt the need to more clearly acknowledge the creativity and bold directorial vision that is behind many of the films we are privileged to consider. We hope that this award recognizes the fact that documentary directing is a vital and unique art form,&#8221; he added.

The 2019 IDA Documentary Awards ceremony will take place on December 7 at Paramount Studios in LA.

2019 IDA Documentary Awards Best Multi-Part Documentary Nominees

Chasing the Moon (USA / PBS. Director and Producer: Robert Stone. Executive Producer: Mark Samels. Producers: Susan Bellows, Daniel Aegerter, Keith Haviland and Ray Rothrock)

Leaving Neverland (USA / HBO. Director and Producer: Dan Reed. Executive Producers: Nancy Abraham and Lisa Heller)

Lorena (USA / Amazon. Director and Executive Producer: Joshua Rofé. Executive Producers: Jordan Peele, Steven J. Berger, Win Rosenfeld, Jenna Santoianni, Tom Lesinski and Andrea Harner. Producer: M. Elizabeth Hughes)

Surviving R. Kelly (USA / Lifetime. Executive Producers: Joel Karsberg, Dream Hampton, Tamra Simmons, Jesse Daniels and Brie Miranda Bryant)

Wu-Tang Clan: Of Mics and Men (USA / Showtime. Executive Producers: Peter J. Scalettar, Peter Bittenbender, Sacha Jenkins and Vinnie Malhotra)

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Alh21 said:
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...-andre-thriller-child-sex-abuse-a9167816.html article from Peter Andre, I can't believe I'm actually reading this, how after everything can these idiots still believe this LN crap, I'm sure they just see all the evidence and choose not to accept it, it's like banging your head against a brick wall. Infuriates me, it really does
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They believe it because they already was bias against MJ long before any claims were made against MJ either out of jealousy, racism, or just hateful people. Regardless if they do not accept the evidence, it does not make their lies true. These idiots do not speak for most that is why they fear MJ fans and those who expose these liars and them.
 
i'm getting tired of these awards shows. LN is an lie and everybody need to hang it up already.

 
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i might don't like these lairs but i don't wish them dead. i wish them to have lots and lots of karma after all of this.
 
Alh21 said:
Definitely, MJ is always on my local station, it was weird because I was watching a documentary on MJ this afternoon (I've posted in another thread) and they were playing Billie Jean, I paused it and Billie Jean was on the radio as well lol, how strange is that :laughing:
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lol! :laughing:
 
michael still plays where i live. i guess my town knew Leaving Neverland was a bunch of lies. they been playing him all this year back to back.

bless my town. they love michael. they always supported him. he also visit a couple of times did concerts and gave money to the children hospital. bless him may he rest in peace.
 
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Peter Andre has defended his appearance in a Thriller musical after renewed sexual abuse allegations against Michael Jackson.
Further accusations were levelled against the late pop superstar in the documentary Leaving Neverland, which featured graphic claims of abuse.

Andre is set to star in a West End production of Thriller, and has defended the continued prominence of Jackson’s music.

Speaking on Good Morning Britain he said: “I’ve always said that I think we’ve got to keep the music separate.
“If you’re going to go there and say you can’t listen to the music because there are allegations, OK, well do you listen to the music pre and supposed allegations? Where do you go with it?

“This show is about the music. I always have to say that they are allegations.”

Leaving Neverland aired in two parts on Channel 4 earlier this year.

It featured Wade Robson and James Safechuck, who alleged they were sexually abused by Jackson, prompting a renewed backlash against the pop star, who died in 2009.

The Jackson estate and his family dismissed the film as “yet another lurid production in an outrageous and pathetic attempt to exploit and cash in on” the late singer.

Andre is to guest star in Thriller for two weeks in December.

Good Morning Britain airs on weekdays from 6am on ITV.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/peter-andre-defends-michael-jackson-102419151.html
 
Well, the good thing about LN winning awards, is that it will be utterly painful for its makers when these awards will be retracted..,
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Get out of here MJ was a grown adult who had porn all over his house so he was not some Peter Pan child he married and had sex with at least 2 women and slept with young boys in his bed.</p>&mdash; Patricia Arquette (@PattyArquette) <a href="https://twitter.com/PattyArquette/status/1187114674023649285?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You are in weird denial. How many grown men have boy children friends and sleepovers? None!</p>&mdash; Patricia Arquette (@PattyArquette) <a href="https://twitter.com/PattyArquette/status/1187116025474506752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">u know what is not great? I still have to read on social media many times a day that John and I are pedophiles and look at photoshopped/miscaptioned photos of us on &quot;Epstein Island&quot; and I just have to deal with it because &quot;people are crazy these days&quot;</p>&mdash; christine teigen (@chrissyteigen) <a href="https://twitter.com/chrissyteigen/status/1186666431414452224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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yes michael was grown man with playboy mags in his house and had intercourse with two women and married both of them before he did. how the heck does that make him an pedophile?

i agree with him calling himself peter pan because that name wasn't good for him once he started somewhat changing in his life. he should of call himself something else then peter pan. he was very childlike and loved children.
 
what's going on with John Legend and Chrissy T.?

I know he ran his mouth about believing LN. Is he caught up in his own scandal now?
 
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From Motown To Your Town said:
what's going on with John Legend and Chrissy T.?

I know he ran his mouth about believing LN. Is he caught up in his own scandal now?
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Apparently, they are being "accused" of being a part of Jeffrey Epstein's Island. She said that she has to read SEVERAL times a day on social media, about her, John AND whatever was going on, on Epstein's Island.

A lot of folks are responding to her "anguish and hurt," by repeating John's words, those words being:

"I have no reason to not believe the people accusing you!" (Similar to the remarks John Legend made regarding LN.) Now homegirl is getting a SMALL taste as to how it feels to be falsely accused and she doesn't like it one bit!!!
 
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Big Apple NYC said:
Apparently, they are being "accused" of being a part of Jeffrey Epstein's Island. She said that she has to read SEVERAL times a day on social media, about her, John AND whatever was going on, on Epstein's Island.

A lot of folks are responding to her "anguish and hurt," by repeating John's words, those words being:

"I have no reason to not believe the people accusing you!" (Similar to the remarks John Legend made regarding LN.) Now homegirl is getting a SMALL taste as to how it feels to be falsely accused and she doesn't like it one bit!!!
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Ha! That's what they get.
 
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Offset (from Migos and Cardi B's husband) did an interview with Billboard magazine and was asked who his dream collaboration (dead or alive) would be with, Offset named Michael Jackson and The Jackson 5.

I'm really not into their music, but I have mad respect for his answer. I love when this new wave of artist bring up Michael's name in a positive way. Offset is young, and could have named anybody (dead or alive), but he choose Michael Jackson. I FREAKIN LOVE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So according to Patricia Arquette you're guilty of being a pedo for:<br><br>Having sex with women.<br>Having porn in your home.<br>Sharing a bed with children.<br>And I've shared a bed reading to my niece and waiting till she falls asleep before leaving her when babysitting.<br><br>I'm guilty. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://t.co/KHiRahBiwH">pic.twitter.com/KHiRahBiwH</a></p>&mdash; R.D. Smith (@MindofSmithy) <a href="https://twitter.com/MindofSmithy/status/1187393915806277636?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">THRILLER &#127875; <br><br>I’m honor of Halloween, here is a clip of me teaching the choreography to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Thriller?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Thriller</a> &#128128; <a href="https://t.co/X8omLSpe4V">pic.twitter.com/X8omLSpe4V</a></p>&mdash; ALICIASOLO (@AliciaSolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/AliciaSolo/status/1187203400888274944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My column today is about yet another story in which I need to clean up media incompetence. <br><br>BTW <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> Ronan Farrow &amp; Dan Reed are very similar &amp; I doubt Lauer would speak to me if he thought I was wrong about Wade Robson, whom he was the 1st to interview <a href="https://t.co/RiBiXhm5UW">https://t.co/RiBiXhm5UW</a></p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1187122898969870336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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It's a sad world we live in when all you have to do is be accused of something and it's treated by certain people as undisputable fact, meanwhile actual predators are able to get away with their crimes for years undetected simply because they don't "fit the mold" of what people think a predator should look or act like.

I have always hated phrases like "Oh, if there's smoke there must be fire", uh no, not necessarily. It is possible for people to perceive of something based on typical signs of it without that actually being the case. Red flags don't always mean something you think is going on actually is.
 
Mike P. said:
It's a sad world we live in when all you have to do is be accused of something and it's treated by certain people as undisputable fact, meanwhile actual predators are able to get away with their crimes for years undetected simply because they don't "fit the mold" of what people think a predator should look or act like.

I have always hated phrases like "Oh, if there's smoke there must be fire", uh no, not necessarily. It is possible for people to perceive of something based on typical signs of it without that actually being the case. Red flags don't always mean something you think is going on actually is.
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People tend to do that because they have an agenda or they have something in their own lives to cover up. Where there is smoke there is fire is true in some case; however, where there is smoke, it can be Dry ICE or FOG is also true just like if it walk like a duck, quack like a duck, it must be duck; but it can also be a PLATTAPUS.
 
From Motown To Your Town said:
what's going on with John Legend and Chrissy T.?

I know he ran his mouth about believing LN. Is he caught up in his own scandal now?
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He was one I twitted and told him back when he ran his mouth "BE CAREFUL, You can be lied on as well" And now look. Never fails.
 
Mike P. said:
I have always hated phrases like "Oh, if there's smoke there must be fire", uh no, not necessarily. It is possible for people to perceive of something based on typical signs of it without that actually being the case. Red flags don't always mean something you think is going on actually is.
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exactly.
 
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