Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

wednesday · Sep 15, 2019

Only thing outstanding about this movie are the outstanding lies. It is always fascinating, however, to witness in real time how certain narratives and agendas are pushed onto the public from the gatekeepers. The discrepancy between the vast majority of people vs. a small powerful section who dominate what is deemed, in this case, to be an outstanding "documentary" or otherwise culturally important and valuable is mind-boggling. I hope people are waking up to see that this is not just a one-off situation but the modus operandi in genereal. Same in politics.

wednesday · Sep 15, 2019

Amaya said:
I was holding out some hope that the Surviving R. Kelly doc would somehow win in the end... sigh... welp, let's see how the media ****s spin this.

Surviving R. Kelly had much more impact, too. But then I guess Leaving Neverland would have, too, if Michael had been alive still (like Living with Michael Jackson had).

I remember a friend of mine who always used to say he hated these Hollywood award shows, because it was a glorified kissing of each other's behinds from an industry. Guess he was right. It's really nothing else.

Paris78 · Sep 15, 2019

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Emmys used to be a major viewership draw. But its ratings have rapidly shrunk to an all-time low.<br><br>By awarding a long-debunked film in its non-fiction category, they've further diminished their viewership & destroyed any reputation they had.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverlandIsFraud?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverlandIsFraud</a> <a href="https://t.co/KfYBhuoyn6">pic.twitter.com/KfYBhuoyn6</a></p>— TSCM (@MJJRepository) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJRepository/status/1173073634597986304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting, in other four categories of Emmy, mockumentary <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> lost to Oscar-winning (best documentary) <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FreeSolo?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FreeSolo</a> , but in Emmy's best doc category, Free Solo was not even nominated? It is more like a set up. Of course, Emmy was sponsored by HBO...<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/K8rwg0YzUJ">pic.twitter.com/K8rwg0YzUJ</a></p>— Keen Zhang (@mkgenie) <a href="https://twitter.com/mkgenie/status/1173058000073805824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Of many outrageous aspects of “Leaving Neverland” winning <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Emmys?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Emmys</a> for best “documentary,” this is this most underrated. Mom of 1 of 2 accusers was still “liking” pro-Jackson FB posts long after he went public with his story & then suddenly erased her “likes” after we publicized it <a href="https://t.co/qtJwPrM6Dy">https://t.co/qtJwPrM6Dy</a></p>— John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1173057677749936128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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Paris78 · Sep 15, 2019

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MJINNOCENT has reached the Emmys! Neither Michael nor his fans will be silenced! Please donate to the GFM page. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a> <a href="https://t.co/15P0G0GacK">pic.twitter.com/15P0G0GacK</a></p>— Think Fathers (@SeanyKane) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanyKane/status/1173009507204468736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">14. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Digital MJ Van at the ready all - Please donate to help with our Emmy fightback <a href="https://t.co/iELRy2KqgT">https://t.co/iELRy2KqgT</a> <a href="https://t.co/vhKVcYLRoC">pic.twitter.com/vhKVcYLRoC</a></p>— #MJINNOCENT Official (@MJInnocentUK) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJInnocentUK/status/1172990160914374656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">14. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is a good read <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mjfam?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mjfam</a> Correct Me If I’m Wrong… - Stereo Williams - Medium <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LiesOfLeavingNeverland?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LiesOfLeavingNeverland</a> ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/MJJJusticePrjct?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MJJJusticePrjct</a>⁩ ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@andjustice4some</a>⁩ ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/TheMJLegion?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheMJLegion</a>⁩ ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/MJHIStorySource?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MJHIStorySource</a>⁩ ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/mjBeats?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mjBeats</a>⁩ ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/TheMJAP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheMJAP</a>⁩ ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/MJJRepository?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MJJRepository</a>⁩ <a href="https://t.co/TlNudf3rnj">https://t.co/TlNudf3rnj</a></p>— Madeleine (@Madeleine777745) <a href="https://twitter.com/Madeleine777745/status/1173062732305915905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"You know, you get those awards and you're ecstatic, but when you touch it it feels like 'tick, tick, tick', that's going to blow up in your face at some point." <a href="https://t.co/DbuK6smqc2">pic.twitter.com/DbuK6smqc2</a></p>— Justice for The Falsely Accused (@JuliaBerkowitz1) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaBerkowitz1/status/1173045449323941889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yes, all of the survivors I know would definitely pose smiling holding an award for their abuse... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverlandIsaFraud?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverlandIsaFraud</a> <a href="https://t.co/L4sU0X6eEs">pic.twitter.com/L4sU0X6eEs</a></p>— Sarah ✌🏻♥️ (@Hoodisms1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Hoodisms1/status/1173127698148974593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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terrell · Sep 15, 2019

wednesday said:
Surviving R. Kelly had much more impact, too. But then I guess Leaving Neverland would have, too, if Michael had been alive still (like Living with Michael Jackson had).

I remember a friend of mine who always used to say he hated these Hollywood award shows, because it was a glorified kissing of each other's behinds from an industry. Guess he was right. It's really nothing else.

If MJ was alive, LN would have never been done.

terrell · Sep 15, 2019

wednesday said:
Only thing outstanding about this movie are the outstanding lies. It is always fascinating, however, to witness in real time how certain narratives and agendas are pushed onto the public from the gatekeepers. The discrepancy between the vast majority of people vs. a small powerful section who dominate what is deemed, in this case, to be an outstanding "documentary" or otherwise culturally important and valuable is mind-boggling. I hope people are waking up to see that this is not just a one-off situation but the modus operandi in genereal. Same in politics.

Beyouce fans are upset she did not win yet this lying documentary on MJ did. Again, it is so obvious what these FEW voters goal was under HBO.

Paris78 · Sep 15, 2019

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All this has shown us is:<br>Awards can be paid for.<br>Journalism is dead.<br>People can lie as much as they want and get away it & be rewarded.<br>You guys actually don't give a toss about CSA victims.<br>You only won because Michael Jackson's name is attached it.<br>You're all extortionists.</p>— Kathryn (@Kathrynbee12) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kathrynbee12/status/1173146500760776704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Maybe that’s why Leaving Neverland won Emmys 🤔🤭 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LiesOfLeavingNeverland?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LiesOfLeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/78GgApfOOB">pic.twitter.com/78GgApfOOB</a></p>— Kamilmji (@Kamilmji1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kamilmji1/status/1173173454142615552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Emmy or no emmy, this score goes to show that people all around the world are woke and are not buying this bs😂😂<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://t.co/SyN3r6E8XW">pic.twitter.com/SyN3r6E8XW</a></p>— Sarah Jeffery (@Akuah14) <a href="https://twitter.com/Akuah14/status/1173164864853950464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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Paris78 · Sep 15, 2019

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverlandIsaFraud?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverlandIsaFraud</a> <a href="https://t.co/7XWPgU9LoU">https://t.co/7XWPgU9LoU</a></p>— MJJJusticeProject (@MJJJusticePrjct) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJJusticePrjct/status/1173080393160904705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oh hi there <a href="https://twitter.com/TheEmmys?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheEmmys</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TelevisionAcad?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TelevisionAcad</a> 👋<br><br>We heard you think it's acceptable to nominate a fraudulent documentary full of proven lies. What a sham! So we brought a truck to remind you that facts don't lie, people do ✌🏽🕊️<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/k2SaYY5W4P">pic.twitter.com/k2SaYY5W4P</a></p>— Casey Rain (aka S-Endz) (@CaseyRain) <a href="https://twitter.com/CaseyRain/status/1173017867606007813?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">14. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">None of us are surprised that the racist <a href="https://twitter.com/TelevisionAcad?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TelevisionAcad</a> gave <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> only 1 of 5 of its nominations. <a href="https://twitter.com/TheEmmys?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheEmmys</a> have made poor decisions for decades. Keep in mind that the film did NOT win Best Doc, it won Outstanding doc. Different categories.</p>— Dr. Andrew Greene (@AndrewGreene864) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewGreene864/status/1173047937036902400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Preach bro 👇🏾👏🏾 <a href="https://twitter.com/tjjackson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tjjackson</a> <a href="https://t.co/N1KFIWRQz9">https://t.co/N1KFIWRQz9</a></p>— Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1172980575365296128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">14. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="tl" dir="ltr">Hahahahaha!!! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/leavingneverlandisafraud?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#leavingneverlandisafraud</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/emmyssupportfrauds?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#emmyssupportfrauds</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/8GSJs4PcMP">https://t.co/8GSJs4PcMP</a></p>— Danny Oliver (@DannyMJOliver) <a href="https://twitter.com/DannyMJOliver/status/1173163730118594560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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elusive moonwalker · Sep 15, 2019

No surprise.. HBO sponser the show..who cares its old hat. The doc has been shown to be packed with provern lies. Mjs popularity has gone up since. NEXT

OnirMJ · Sep 15, 2019

Paris78;4269279 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MJINNOCENT has reached the Emmys! Neither Michael nor his fans will be silenced! Please donate to the GFM page. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a> <a href="https://t.co/15P0G0GacK">pic.twitter.com/15P0G0GacK</a></p>— Think Fathers (@SeanyKane) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanyKane/status/1173009507204468736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">14. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Digital MJ Van at the ready all - Please donate to help with our Emmy fightback <a href="https://t.co/iELRy2KqgT">https://t.co/iELRy2KqgT</a> <a href="https://t.co/vhKVcYLRoC">pic.twitter.com/vhKVcYLRoC</a></p>— #MJINNOCENT Official (@MJInnocentUK) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJInnocentUK/status/1172990160914374656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">14. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is a good read <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mjfam?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mjfam</a> Correct Me If I’m Wrong… - Stereo Williams - Medium <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LiesOfLeavingNeverland?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LiesOfLeavingNeverland</a> ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/MJJJusticePrjct?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MJJJusticePrjct</a>⁩ ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@andjustice4some</a>⁩ ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/TheMJLegion?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheMJLegion</a>⁩ ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/MJHIStorySource?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MJHIStorySource</a>⁩ ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/mjBeats?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mjBeats</a>⁩ ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/TheMJAP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheMJAP</a>⁩ ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/MJJRepository?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MJJRepository</a>⁩ <a href="https://t.co/TlNudf3rnj">https://t.co/TlNudf3rnj</a></p>— Madeleine (@Madeleine777745) <a href="https://twitter.com/Madeleine777745/status/1173062732305915905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"You know, you get those awards and you're ecstatic, but when you touch it it feels like 'tick, tick, tick', that's going to blow up in your face at some point." <a href="https://t.co/DbuK6smqc2">pic.twitter.com/DbuK6smqc2</a></p>— Justice for The Falsely Accused (@JuliaBerkowitz1) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaBerkowitz1/status/1173045449323941889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yes, all of the survivors I know would definitely pose smiling holding an award for their abuse... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverlandIsaFraud?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverlandIsaFraud</a> <a href="https://t.co/L4sU0X6eEs">pic.twitter.com/L4sU0X6eEs</a></p>— Sarah ✌🏻♥️ (@Hoodisms1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Hoodisms1/status/1173127698148974593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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His wife looks like a golddigger also.

Anna · Sep 15, 2019

Amaya said:
I was holding out some hope that the Surviving R. Kelly doc would somehow win in the end... sigh... welp, let's see how the media ****s spin this.

They weren't in the same category. Surviving R. Kelly was in Outstanding Informational Series Or Special.

wednesday · Sep 15, 2019

It bothers me that Safechuck doesn't look the least bit perturbed holding this undeserved award. He probably thinks to himself "Yeah! My dreams came true! I've always wanted to get an Emmy for best actor. Yeah!" Really stunning this whole thing...

myosotis · Sep 15, 2019

'Pride comes before a fall'. The actors in this fraudulent film still have the results of their court appeal to look forward to. I doubt the 'real' judges will be taken in by their legal claims.
They've been living in a publicity bubble promoted by Reed and their legal firm all this year. Lets see how they get on once the Hollywood and media cavalcade has left them behind. I predict they'll fast become irrelevant.

Incidentally, this vid. appears to be a backstage Q and A at the Emmys, with Dan Reed.

He appears to lie (again) when he says of his subject area :'I don't come from that field. (0.26) ''My subject area was terrorism, war and crime etc''. Reed made the film 'The Paedophile Hunter' in 2014, so following alleged paedophiles was entirely his recent subject area.

Interesting that the questions he gets from the press are quite desultory- they don't seem to care much about the film or his answers. ie there's no follow-up to his answers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWOvPySmFh0

terrell · Sep 15, 2019

myosotis said:
'Pride comes before a fall'. The actors in this fraudulent film still have the results of their court appeal to look forward to. I doubt the 'real' judges will be taken in by their legal claims.
They've been living in a publicity bubble promoted by Reed and their legal firm all this year. Lets see how they get on once the Hollywood and media cavalcade has left them behind. I predict they'll fast become irrelevant.

Incidentally, this vid. appears to be a backstage Q and A at the Emmys, with Dan Reed.

He appears to lie (again) when he says of his subject area :'I don't come from that field. (0.26) ''My subject area was terrorism, war and crime etc''. Reed made the film 'The Paedophile Hunter' in 2014, so following alleged paedophiles was entirely his recent subject area.

Interesting that the questions he gets from the press are quite desultory- they don't seem to care much about the film or his answers. ie there's no follow-up to his answers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWOvPySmFh0

There is something about this guy that aint right and I hope it gets revealed.

Alh21 · Sep 15, 2019

Paris78;4269279 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MJINNOCENT has reached the Emmys! Neither Michael nor his fans will be silenced! Please donate to the GFM page. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a> <a href="https://t.co/15P0G0GacK">pic.twitter.com/15P0G0GacK</a></p>— Think Fathers (@SeanyKane) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanyKane/status/1173009507204468736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">14. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"You know, you get those awards and you're ecstatic, but when you touch it it feels like 'tick, tick, tick', that's going to blow up in your face at some point." <a href="https://t.co/DbuK6smqc2">pic.twitter.com/DbuK6smqc2</a></p>— Justice for The Falsely Accused (@JuliaBerkowitz1) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaBerkowitz1/status/1173045449323941889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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what a scheming little b*****d he is, I hope someone smashes it over his head

Alh21 · Sep 15, 2019

myosotis said:
'Pride comes before a fall'. The actors in this fraudulent film still have the results of their court appeal to look forward to. I doubt the 'real' judges will be taken in by their legal claims.
They've been living in a publicity bubble promoted by Reed and their legal firm all this year. Lets see how they get on once the Hollywood and media cavalcade has left them behind. I predict they'll fast become irrelevant.

Incidentally, this vid. appears to be a backstage Q and A at the Emmys, with Dan Reed.

He appears to lie (again) when he says of his subject area :'I don't come from that field. (0.26) ''My subject area was terrorism, war and crime etc''. Reed made the film 'The Paedophile Hunter' in 2014, so following alleged paedophiles was entirely his recent subject area.

Interesting that the questions he gets from the press are quite desultory- they don't seem to care much about the film or his answers. ie there's no follow-up to his answers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWOvPySmFh0

Is this bloke for real, before he met them two he didn't know who MJ was, erm who hasn't heard of Michael Jackson, and then goes on to say that he thought paedophiles were people who dragged kids into back alleys, wtf, how old is he three. he doesn't do himself any favours does he, what a turkey.

Carmour260 · Sep 15, 2019

terrell said:
Do not take it as blow. To me, this exposes Hollywood. They only exposing themselves and giving us more reason to expose the lies.

I agree. What even confirms more is that the Black community had been saying all along that most black actors/actresses were snubbed on purpose. I look at it like this: this is God's way of saying that Hollywood is not what you think it is.

Michael's legacy is way too strong for this. This too shall pass...

By the way terrell, where was show you went to?

terrell · Sep 15, 2019

Carmour260 said:
I agree. What even confirms more is that the Black community had been saying all along that most black actors/actresses were snubbed on purpose. I look at it like this: this is God's way of saying that Hollywood is not what you think it is.

Michael's legacy is way too strong for this. This too shall pass...

By the way terrell, where was show you went to?

The show was GREAT and packed. One women threw her bra on the stage when he did Billie jean. It was so funny and he was great and funny.

terrell · Sep 15, 2019

Alh21 said:
Is this bloke for real, before he met them two he didn't know who MJ was, erm who hasn't heard of Michael Jackson, and then goes on to say that he thought paedophiles were people who dragged kids into back alleys, wtf, how old is he three. he doesn't do himself any favours does he, what a turkey.

I am sure when those reporters heard that they were like HUH. He is an obvious liar.

Carmour260 · Sep 15, 2019

terrell said:
The show was GREAT and packed. One women threw her bra on the stage when he did Billie jean. It was so funny and he was great and funny.

OMG, that's hilarious! Glad you had fun!

NatureCriminal7896 · Sep 15, 2019

It’s goes to show you justice doesn’t exist anymore. especially if you're black or a person of color. SCREW THE EMMYS! prayers and shoutouts to the jacksons family at this difficult time.

Elton-Cetera · Sep 15, 2019

LEAVING NEVERLAND NOMINATED FOR 5 EMMYS IN 2019

1. OUTSTANDING DOCUMENTARY OR NON-FICTION SPECIAL - WON - Dan Reed, Nancy Abraham, Lisa Heller
2. OUTSTANDING PICTURE EDITING FOR NON-FICTION PROGRAM - LOST - Jules Cornell
3. OUTSTANDING DIRECTING FOR NON-FICTION DOCUMENTARY - LOST - Dan Reed
4. OUTSTANDING SOUND EDITING FOR NON-FICTION PROGRAM - LOST - Poppy Kavanaugh, Ross Millership
5. OUTSTANDING SOUND MIXING FOR NON-FICTION PROGRAM- LOST - Matt Skilton, Marguerite Gaudin

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-...neverland-beyonce-creative-arts-emmys-884578/

Amaya · Sep 15, 2019

Anna said:
They weren't in the same category. Surviving R. Kelly was in Outstanding Informational Series Or Special.

My bad, I didn't know it went into a different category.

terrell said:
The show was GREAT and packed. One women threw her bra on the stage when he did Billie jean. It was so funny and he was great and funny.

I saw a video of that on Instagram! I've seen that show (MJ Live) in Vegas, and it's very fun. ^.^ It does need an update though...

Going back to the Emmys being full of shit, apparently The Simpsons won Best Animated Series. The fact that it won and Bojack Horseman didn't is a huge load of bullshit.

dam2040 · Sep 15, 2019

these boys look so brave and traumatised posing with their precious little Emmy don't they

Alh21 · Sep 15, 2019

dam2040 said:
these boys look so brave and traumatised posing with their precious little Emmy don't they

yes I know, it breaks my heart, how did he ever get through it

Alh21 · Sep 15, 2019

Elton-Cetera said:
LEAVING NEVERLAND NOMINATED FOR 5 EMMYS IN 2019

1. OUTSTANDING DOCUMENTARY OR NON-FICTION SPECIAL - WON - Dan Reed, Nancy Abraham, Lisa Heller
2. OUTSTANDING PICTURE EDITING FOR NON-FICTION PROGRAM - LOST - Jules Cornell
3. OUTSTANDING DIRECTING FOR NON-FICTION DOCUMENTARY - LOST - Dan Reed
4. OUTSTANDING SOUND EDITING FOR NON-FICTION PROGRAM - LOST - Poppy Kavanaugh, Ross Millership
5. OUTSTANDING SOUND MIXING FOR NON-FICTION PROGRAM- LOST - Matt Skilton, Marguerite Gaudin

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-...neverland-beyonce-creative-arts-emmys-884578/

where's the other idiot, didn't he make it.

Alh21 · Sep 15, 2019

terrell said:
I am sure when those reporters heard that they were like HUH. He is an obvious liar.

haha yeah I bet they did

CaptainEoLove85 · Sep 15, 2019

Safechuck showed his face?

Emmys are a joke. They confuse fiction with non-fiction.

Anyway, just got back from my cruise. Music parties all around. They got five guys to be the Jackson 5 and they were doing Michael moves. Mute who?

And I just put on my music. Keep the Faith is playing.

myosotis · Sep 15, 2019

Alh21 said:
where's the other idiot, didn't he make it.

From a fan on Twitter:

''... an interesting issue about Wade. Why didn't he attend? Why did he schedule a dance class the day after that he still seems to be begging for people to attend for only $25 today as though looking for an excuse to not be there?''

Also, I'm wondering if they might all turn up together to the main HBO awards party on the 22nd Sept., after the main awards event.

WarnerMedia & HBO Post-Awards Reception
8 PM, The Plaza At The Pacific Design Center, 8687 Melrose Ave At San Vicente, West Hollywood

https://deadline.com/2019/09/emmys-2019-party-list-hollywood-schedule-1202730022/

Elton-Cetera · Sep 15, 2019

Alh21 said:
where's the other idiot, didn't he make it.

Nope! That doesn't look like Nancy Abraham or Lisa Heller of HBO, the other winners. Does anyone know who that woman is in the picture with Reed and Safechuck?

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