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I've just been watching this, it's excellent news but I'm still concerned that nothing is going to happen to these three, Reed needs punishment as well as far as I'm concerned, he didn't make up the same lies but he's played a massive part in trying to bring Michael down
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tough to ignore, impossible to forget! This brave documentary tells the compelling case of how two men and a Director exploited a dead man in an attempt to gain millions. It shook me to my core! You need to watch this documentary! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LiesOfLeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LiesOfLeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://t.co/R1DEKDFXRs">https://t.co/R1DEKDFXRs</a></p>&mdash; Pez Jax (@Pezjax) <a href="https://twitter.com/Pezjax/status/1162009694296313857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJacksonChaseTheTruth?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJacksonChaseTheTruth</a> documentary responds to allegations made in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://t.co/G89zFp0Jxv">https://t.co/G89zFp0Jxv</a></p>&mdash; ET Canada (@ETCanada) <a href="https://twitter.com/ETCanada/status/1161992344905900038?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Release of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> accuser’s 2016 deposition proves what I’ve been saying since release of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> It’s fake news <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WadeRobson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WadeRobson</a> is a liar &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HBO?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HBO</a> is complicit in smearing late <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KingOfPop?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KingOfPop</a></p>&mdash; Geraldo Rivera (@GeraldoRivera) <a href="https://twitter.com/GeraldoRivera/status/1161780418842124291?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">14. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You are correct Geraldo. Thank you for being one of the very few media people (especially in America) who cares about the obvious truth of this case, and what a clear fraud “Leaving Neverland” and <a href="https://twitter.com/danreed1000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@danreed1000</a> are.</p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1161830659477737472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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So the “Factual” documentary about the “real” #Michael Jackson is being released around the world right now! Thank you so much for your feedback and kind words! &#128591;

So glad it’s exceeded your expectations and I expect Wade and James are hiding behind a rock along with Dan Reed somewhere with embarrassment right now!
I would love to invite Wade, James and Dan Reed to come and challenge us on live UK &#127468;&#127463; TV about the man we knew, our friend @michaeljackson and let’s have @tajjackson with is too and @brandijackson82 and see how they got on! Maybe @piersmorgan too!
I may even throw in some free martial arts lessons for Wade, James and Dan Reed if you come over to the UK &#128514;&#129355;but I doubt you will face us as we know the truth and your gutless!
We don’t need 4 hours of edited footage to show the truth about our friend Michael Jackson and the lies about him. I have had enough of this nonsense. We told the truth in 1 hour!

He is not even here to defend himself. You should be ashamed of himself.
Thank you to all the fans! And sorry for the wait as everyone involved wanted it to be perfect.
I believe this crushes “Leaving Neverland” and I hope stops the documentary winning the nominations for the Emmy awards!! Complete Madness!
Thoughts are with Mrs Jackson and the whole Jackson family. They have been through so much including Michael’s children.
As Michael used to say to me. “The bigger the star, the bigger the target” and he is still the biggest in death.
He was unique and it’s hard to explain who Michael really was unless you knew him. Most genius and gifted people are different. Michael is an easy target as he was so humble!
And will always be the greatest entertainer of all time who will all miss so much!
Friends stick together. &#128521;

Love to you all

Matt Fiddes
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All 5 star reviews for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChaseTheTruth?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChaseTheTruth</a> on the Google play store. Keep it up <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mjfam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mjfam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/EntertainMeLTD?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EntertainMeLTD</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJJusticePrjct?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MJJJusticePrjct</a> <a href="https://t.co/zqY7sdotaL">pic.twitter.com/zqY7sdotaL</a></p>&mdash; KiwiAroha (@KiwiAroha1) <a href="https://twitter.com/KiwiAroha1/status/1161902609705254912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Michael Jackson documentary Chase The Truth calls Leaving Neverland accusers ‘lying money-grabbers’ <a href="https://t.co/VlcXgvQyEm">https://t.co/VlcXgvQyEm</a> <a href="https://t.co/PhA9OiueR6">pic.twitter.com/PhA9OiueR6</a></p>&mdash; Mirror Celeb (@MirrorCeleb) <a href="https://twitter.com/MirrorCeleb/status/1161738009932378112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">14. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The HipHop World will lead them to the truth !! &#128526; Yess babeee !! Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/HipHopWired?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HipHopWired</a> for helping EXPOSE <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WadeRobson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WadeRobson</a> lies in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a>- <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/hiphopnews?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#hiphopnews</a> <a href="https://t.co/wHexYLNiDw">https://t.co/wHexYLNiDw</a></p>&mdash; MJJJusticeProject (@MJJJusticePrjct) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJJusticePrjct/status/1161717507092205568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">14. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Me waiting for the rest of mainstream media to pick up the story about Wade Robson’s contradictions that have been handed to them on a silver platter in video format. <a href="https://t.co/L0yOsCk7rC">pic.twitter.com/L0yOsCk7rC</a></p>&mdash; PHOENIX (@PhoenixLaNegra) <a href="https://twitter.com/PhoenixLaNegra/status/1161984258262667265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">People are happy to sit in front of their TV for a couple of hours and passively absorb what's presented to them. But when you go, 'No, the TV show was a hatchet job - and here's a 10,000-word article on why', they totally shut down. They can't be bothered &amp; don't want to know.</p>&mdash; Charles Thomson (@CEThomson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1161938345137704961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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https://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz/michael-jackson-chase-the-truth-18937413

Michael Jackson&#8217;s pals blast Leaving Neverland accusers in controversial new doc

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MICHAEL Jackson&#8217;s friends have come together in a brand new documentary, in a bid to clear his name.

Chase The Truth defends the King of Pop&#8217;s legacy in the wake of allegations of sexual abuse made in the Channel 4 doc Leaving Neverland.

Earlier this year, the two-part series told the stories of two men who had known the pop star when they were children.

Both men &#8211; James Safechuck and Wade Robson &#8211; claimed that they had been victims of sexual abuse at the hands of Michael Jackson.

Featuring a number of the Thriller hitmaker&#8217;s closest pals, Chase The Truth slams Safechuck and Robson and claims that they were entirely motivated by money.

In the film, the singer&#8217;s former bodyguard Matt Fiddes said: &#8220;It's always financial. It's hard to understand how these allegations can be true."

His biographer Mike Smallcombe added: "Now two accusers going to sue the Jackson estate.

"All of Michael Jackson's accusers &#8211; it's always been about money."

The new documentary focuses on how Robson and Safechuck attempted to launch a legal challenge against Jackson&#8217;s estate but failed, before filming Leaving Neverland.

Smallcombe alleged in the doc that he had debunked certain sex abuse claims &#8211; at one point, he says nothing could have happened in the Neverland train station, as it allegedly hadn&#8217;t been built yet.

The singer&#8217;s bodyguard also blasted the Leaving Neverland accusers and the film's director, Dan Reed, over social media.

Fiddes said: "I expect Wade and James are hiding behind a rock along with Dan Reed somewhere with embarrassment right now!

"I would love to invite Wade, James and Dan Reed to come and challenge us on live UK TV about the man we knew, our friend.

"I doubt you will face us as we know the truth and you're gutless!"

He finished: &#8220;We don&#8217;t need four hours of edited footage to show the truth about our friend Michael Jackson and the lies about him. I have had enough of this nonsense. We told the truth in one hour!

Michael Jackson&#8217;s family deny the accusations made in Leaving Neverland, comparing the backlash to a &#8220;public lynching&#8221;.

Chase The Truth is available on Amazon Prime.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bravo, NME. One by one you are all stepping up. <br><br>New documentary 'Chase The Truth' defending Michael Jackson is released - NME <a href="https://t.co/hg4JBXnnsn">https://t.co/hg4JBXnnsn</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/Po_st?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@po_st</a></p>&mdash; Samuel Mesterton (@sammesterton) <a href="https://twitter.com/sammesterton/status/1162020131578503168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/liesofleavingneverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#liesofleavingneverland</a> <a href="https://t.co/pwegMGeeTU">https://t.co/pwegMGeeTU</a></p>&mdash; Leaving Neverland Facts (@NeverlandFacts) <a href="https://twitter.com/NeverlandFacts/status/1161792626229559296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tito Jackson Has Thoughts On Michael Jackson’s Portrayal In 'Leaving Neverland' Documentary <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://t.co/jSIIQE7crR">https://t.co/jSIIQE7crR</a></p>&mdash; Leaving Neverland Facts (@NeverlandFacts) <a href="https://twitter.com/NeverlandFacts/status/1161754841955237888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">14. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Now that the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TRUTH?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TRUTH</a> is slowly coming out, Your silence is deafening <a href="https://twitter.com/Sia?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Sia</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RoArquette?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RoArquette</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/GayleKing?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GayleKing</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/OWNTV?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OWNTV</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/kellyslater?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@kellyslater</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Tatum_Oneal?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Tatum_Oneal</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/katiecouric?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@katiecouric</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a><br>Supporting <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FalseAllegations?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FalseAllegations</a> against an innocent person is a horrific injustice &amp; you should be ashamed. <a href="https://t.co/iZ7bCxIQjN">https://t.co/iZ7bCxIQjN</a></p>&mdash; Paul Dwyer (@PauliDee) <a href="https://twitter.com/PauliDee/status/1161849147156119553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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I decided I&#8217;m gonna see &#8220;Chase The Truth&#8221; after all, I&#8217;m gonna a rent for it instead of buying it.
 
Paris78;4265984 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You are correct Geraldo. Thank you for being one of the very few media people (especially in America) who cares about the obvious truth of this case, and what a clear fraud “Leaving Neverland” and <a href="https://twitter.com/danreed1000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@danreed1000</a> are.</p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1161830659477737472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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officialmattfiddes
So the “Factual” documentary about the “real” #Michael Jackson is being released around the world right now! Thank you so much for your feedback and kind words! &#128591;

So glad it’s exceeded your expectations and I expect Wade and James are hiding behind a rock along with Dan Reed somewhere with embarrassment right now!
I would love to invite Wade, James and Dan Reed to come and challenge us on live UK &#127468;&#127463; TV about the man we knew, our friend @michaeljackson and let’s have @tajjackson with is too and @brandijackson82 and see how they got on! Maybe @piersmorgan too!
I may even throw in some free martial arts lessons for Wade, James and Dan Reed if you come over to the UK &#128514;&#129355;but I doubt you will face us as we know the truth and your gutless!
We don’t need 4 hours of edited footage to show the truth about our friend Michael Jackson and the lies about him. I have had enough of this nonsense. We told the truth in 1 hour!

He is not even here to defend himself. You should be ashamed of himself.
Thank you to all the fans! And sorry for the wait as everyone involved wanted it to be perfect.
I believe this crushes “Leaving Neverland” and I hope stops the documentary winning the nominations for the Emmy awards!! Complete Madness!
Thoughts are with Mrs Jackson and the whole Jackson family. They have been through so much including Michael’s children.
As Michael used to say to me. “The bigger the star, the bigger the target” and he is still the biggest in death.
He was unique and it’s hard to explain who Michael really was unless you knew him. Most genius and gifted people are different. Michael is an easy target as he was so humble!
And will always be the greatest entertainer of all time who will all miss so much!
Friends stick together. &#128521;

Love to you all

Matt Fiddes
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Just because your lies are positve doesnt make you any less of an attenion seeking delusional wannabe

Good to see the media stories. Id prefer they concentrate on robsons depo or is the depo shown in the docu?
 
It's amazing that despite all the evidence that show his accusers are liars , people STILL want to believe Michael's guilty. Can't these people put aside their ego's for 2 seconds and admit they were wrong?
 
Nope. They need a scapegoat whipping boy for weinstein and epstein and all the other real abusers in hollywood.
 
StageGlitter said:
Nothing will happen. None of us know what really took place.
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Close examination of their court documents since 2013 shows that Robson and Safechuck are, absolutely incontrovertibly, lying.

I don't know why anyone would be here as a fan if that was not the case.

but....Apologies if I misunderstood your statement.
 
From Twitter:



Kew Media Group @kewmediagroup
Leaving Neverland has been shortlisted in the 2019 Content Innovation Awards for Best Documentary Series

The winner will be announced on the 13th October.
 
How can we find out if the producers of LN are self-nominating? It would explain some things.

You know, it is interesting - when you look at the people who have been accused of abuse in the past 5 years, no-one has been as vigorously defended as Michael has been. R Kelly, Epstein, Cosby, Weinstein have not had counter-narrative documentaries and a concerted, determined effort of defense. Hmm....


And thanks myosotis for your response to StageGlitter. I was going to say something that would have got me banned.
 
No, I'm not. But I have to admit unless I wasn't there I don't really know anything.

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No, I'm not. But we have to admit unless we were there we don't really know anything.
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I think the lies that have been exposed proves that they are lying, and no I wont admit that because I believe Michael is innocent, don't u?
 
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No, I'm not. But we have to admit unless we were there we don't really know anything.
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Well, it is clear MJ is NOT guilty. There is too much lying, changing stories, admitting to lying, actions of the accusers, inconsistency, etc that show proves they are liars along with how MJ was investigated with to no end and MJ cooperated better than the accusers. I have seen people proven to be guilty and it do not take all what they did to MJ to prove it. even if you look at Epstein, who has BILLIONS, it did NOT take the way MJ was treated/investigated to see Epstein was guilty back in 2007 (funny, the media over looked Epstein in 2007 while still trying to trash and find something on MJ even after MJ's trial ). In other words, at this point, I do not have to use crack cocaine to know how it will make someone behave and to know it is not good.
 
You're not being pushy, it's just a question. I joined because I like Michael Jackson. His personal life was his personal life. Not mine. So, I don't really have a stance on it anymore
 
HEY! other users need to stop attacking others. this site isn't made for that. and we all makes mistakes. Michael wouldn't be please us attacking people and i know i wouldn't either.
 
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