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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

La74;4261485 said:
I have this idea of inviting Taj and Brandi for a ”guest chatt” if they are interested. Maybe we could create a subforum for members only and they could register and there we could discuss Taj documentary etc. What do you think about that?
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yes!!
we could help. or at least some trusted individuals from this site.
that way he doesn't need to pay a team of researchers or do it all himself.

his researchers are right here and willing to help.
 
La74;4261485 said:
I have this idea of inviting Taj and Brandi for a ”guest chatt” if they are interested. Maybe we could create a subforum for members only and they could register and there we could discuss Taj documentary etc. What do you think about that?
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Personally, I am so glad that Taj is keeping his documentary under wraps. FTR, some fans/people are going to complain at whatever he releases. Just as they do with the Estate. Some people/fans don’t realize the crap that Taj is facing trying to get this docu completed and then distributed to the public. I am going to be patient and see what he releases and support his effort with the barriers that he is facing from the media and other conspirators. I pray for Taj’s success. He is facing HUGE pressure and NONE of us knows what’s going on behind the scenes. It’s easy to sit on a forum and criticize, when we have no idea what this man is going through.
 
I know there are people out there that have never spoken that have more information that even we don't know about yet. In a dream world, those people would finally speak out.
 
I wish Raz0rFist could do interviews within the mainstream media. He comes with facts, and doesn't take any B.S from anyone.
 
The few TV apearences where Taj had the chance to expose LN and defending MJ were only shortly after the airing, where nerly nothing was debunked (so he couldn't say much.)
Its also not easy to prepre yourself for something like this and say everthing important in a few min. time.
Remember that the cbs interview together with his uncles was hardly edited.
We don't know what they cut out from the original interview.
The other two interviews they gave together were much better then the cbs one!

But Taj had the key to expose James, Wade and LN and to destroy it in this momemts very likely in his hands before the airing in the transcripts ( from I think the spanish filmmaker) and seamed to have made the biiiiiiiiiiiiiig mistake to study them in deph and investigate them with his family ( someone would have noticed that the trainstation was not build in James abuse timeline)!
When he would have done this he could have exposed the train staion lie in a big bang when thousends were watching and everthing would have made anouther turn with LN!
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1000’s of Michael Jackson fans gather outside of his mausoleum to mark 10th year since his death <a href="https://t.co/WHaFuxhJXD">pic.twitter.com/WHaFuxhJXD</a></p>&mdash; RT (@RT_com) <a href="https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1144032594427830272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">27. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New! Here is the video of the full interview that I recently did with <a href="https://twitter.com/N1info?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@N1info</a> about what an obvious fraud HBO’s “Leaving Neverland” is. <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/tjjackson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tjjackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BJackson82?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BJackson82</a> <br><br>N1 intervju: John Ziegler o &quot;Kralju popa&quot; <a href="https://t.co/RTVTqS9RXr">https://t.co/RTVTqS9RXr</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/YouTube?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@YouTube</a></p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1144683685246976000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">28. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Unlike <a href="https://twitter.com/danreed1000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@danreed1000</a>, we opened a discussion with facts and arguments PLUS journalistic integrity. Something unknown to Reed. I challenge Reed, if he really believes in his project, to face either John or me! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IChallengeYouReed?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IChallengeYouReed</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsFirst?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsFirst</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsMatter?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsMatter</a> <a href="https://t.co/6lUzV1ZEPh">pic.twitter.com/6lUzV1ZEPh</a></p>&mdash; Ika Ferrer Goti&#263; (@IkaFerrerGotic) <a href="https://twitter.com/IkaFerrerGotic/status/1144766523711598592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">29. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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TSCM discovered that there has been a PR campaign lead by Kew Media Distribution, I posted a lot of tweets in a separate thread. Does anyone know of any connection between them and Oprah Winfrey?
 
La74;4261584 said:
TSCM discovered that there has been a PR campaign lead by Kew Media Distribution, I posted a lot of tweets in a separate thread. Does anyone know of any connection between them and Oprah Winfrey?
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It's a fantastic piece of research. Here is some of it (so that readers in this thread can see it), but it's recommended to read the thread with all the 'Kew Media' Press/ publicity attachments. Kudos to TSCM.

https://twitter.com/MJJRepository/status/1144838034954870785

MEGATHREAD: If you've ever felt that all of the "rave" reviews, media stories & general publicity surrounding Leaving Neverland was canned, contrived & orchestrated, here's why.

All of the PR & publicity has been spearheaded by the increasingly powerful Kew Media Distribution.
KMD and its 14 entities are behind the global distribution of Leaving Neverland and sale to all other territories.
They are responsible for the mass-distributed media press releases w/ preloaded buzz-words, starting on Jan. 17th & continuing behind-the-scenes through this week.

On Jan. 17th, KMD pushed out a press release to detail Leaving Neverland & how they had already secured international distribution rights beyond US/UK. Their original 7 paragraph presser soon splashed across many media waves around the globe (w/ keywords like "gut-wrenching.")
KMD's supplied summary of the film was plastered on the majority of media sites leading up to Sundance's premiere.

Sundance used a paraphrased version for their own site and "Special Events" announcement, along with the supplied Reed bio & more keywords ("powerful, disarming.")

"Gut-wrenching" became the de-facto term that every person & outlet decided to use when referring to Leaving Neverland&#8212;a term taken straight from the PR (not an independent thought or review).

- Verbatim quotes in more than 2,000 articles.
- Used to describe the debut trailer.

"Gut-wrenching" also became a favorite among the blue ticks and general commentators on Twitter and other social media outlets.
As a predisposition, by the time it premiered it had already been referred to for months by media as "gut-wrenching" thanks to the PR put out by KMD.
In many instances, news sites were directly claiming that "Leaving Neverland has been described as 'gut-wrenching'" but beyond the headlines, the actual source to this claim was the direct-from-producer press-release that they all linked to&#8212;sent direct from KDM / HBO / Channel 4.

Following its Sundance premiere and all of the buzz behind that (which included endless stories quoting verbatim from the synopsis), they sent out a much more detailed 11-page media kit. This document made its way to notable outlets, media networks and so-called influencers.
This media kit was formally packaged for distribution by Marguerite Gaudin, the sidekick to Dan Reed during filming who also operated a second camera and microphone (credited in the film as assistant producer).
Marguerite also supplied press photos to media sites like Buzz Feed.

The media kit included a 14-paragraph, 933 word press release that expanded on the original and added many new catch phrases and keywords for the media to disseminate.

"ripples of sexual abuse," "trauma," "fractured," "complicated feelings," "isolating," "painful," "harrowing."

The extended press release contained Sundance quotes from RS and Hollywood Reporter that regurgitated the same verbiage already pushed out by the original press releases. Those quotes were then re-published in 100s of stories, quoting from the fresh PR (also used on the poster).

Also included in the media kit was a 110 word short synopsis, 225 word long synopsis, 119 word E1 synopsis, 139 word E2 synopsis, 1300 word Q&A interview with Dan Reed, and embellished biography calling Reed's films an "exhaustive investigation with character-led storytelling..."
Blurbs and excerpts from the 11-page presser continued spreading across media networks at the promotional hands of Kew Media Group for weeks until the film eventually premiered in March 2019.

Reed's PR interview was included as content for stories featured on numerous sites.

On Mar. 4 (E2 premiere in U.S.) KDM pushed out another grandstanding & rehashed press release to add momentum. That one claimed "unprecedented global broadcaster interest" in buying rights to Leaving Neverland.
The "130 countries" + "highly successful" bits spread through media.

KDM has continued promoting itself and Leaving Neverland to stakeholders etc. including on the day of MJ's 10th anniversary in passing.
To investor groups, they define their solid relationship with HBO and describe LN as "the Sundance smash hit," taking full credit for the PR.

On June 25&#8212;the 10th anniversary of Michael Jackson's passing&#8212;Television Business International published KMD interview in a story: "Beyond 'Neverland'."
It starts with: "there&#8217;s little doubt about the most impactful documentary of the year [LN]...sold around the world by KDM."

In the 6/25 interview, the KDM president stated:

"A couple of other companies had shied away from LN because they were concerned about the risks...we saw there was a story there we had to get out into the market."
He adds they "basically sold out in every country in the world."

Which brings me back to the original extended press release concocted by Reed and Gaudin, which Kew Media Group mass-distributed as build-up for the premiere.
That press release naturally contains an immense amount of factual errors and falsehoods, even comparing to LN itself.

PR: The separate but parallel experiences of 2 young boys..befriended by MJ..entranced.
FACT: WR+JS shared same sets of lawyers since '14, met as adults w/ lawyers. WR amended complaint based on JS claims, vice versa. Nothing "separate" about it. It was JR/WR who 1st pursued MJ.

PR: Complicated feelings that led both men to confront their experiences after both had a young son of their own.
FACT: Their kids have no baring on their timeline at all. WR was broke and w/out work and blamed it on everything (including his son). JS worked a year w/ WR attys.

PR: In 1990, Joy followed up with Jackson, who invited the whole family to his home for the weekend.
FACT: Joy tried for 2 years to reach MJ by sending letters & tapes; MJ did not respond. In more desperation, she then contacted media outlets & sources to be put in touch w/ MJ.

PR: ...separately expressing his love for both boys, while slowly isolating them from their families.
FACT: SS & JR were almost always present. In unaired part of MJ's Hawaii tape, he says he loves entire family, wants to spend time w/ all. Tells WR on vid to spend time w/ mom.

PR: Their most salient memories during this time involved visits to NL...filled w/ games, rides, animals...
FACT: In 1988-1990 ("during this time") very few of the described structures, rides or attractions actually existed at Neverland (including the train station - 1994).

PR: Both Robson and Safechuck describe how what began as innocent sleepovers led to intimate contact.
FACT: Wade Robson actually claims that the graphic sexual abuse began the very first time they ever were over, on that first weekend. No pattern at all, no "grooming."

PR: Soon, as Safechuck recalls painfully, nearly every "special" place at Neverland was marked by a sexual encounter.
FACT: Safechuck is giggling and chuckling while describing these acts, also describing it as if it were a game. He also alleges abuse at non-existent places.

PR: In 1991, with Jackson's encouragement, Robson's mother moved her son and daughter to LA.
FACT: JR confirmed in media interviews from the 90s that the most MJ said about it was "follow your heart." All of the Robson's acknowledge that upon moving to LA, MJ was rarely around.

PR: Robson recalls believing Jackson when he told him they would both "go to jail for the rest of our lives" if anyone found out.
FACT: Wade would had been keenly aware this was not the case in 93-94 when interviewed at length by investigators, and especially in court at age 22!

etc etc, going on with more false statements, and correcting them

LA74 thread with all the attachments here: https://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/threads/143172-The-PR-machine-for-Leaving-Neverland

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Here's an ironic statement from the Kew Medis 'About us' page:

The Company promotes transparency, equality, respect, and inclusiveness and plans to grow with the benefit of people from a wide range of perspectives and backgrounds.

https://www.kewmedia.com/corporate/about-us
 
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A view from the Middle East:

Wanted dead or alive: Despite &#8216;Leaving Neverland,&#8217; Michael Jackson&#8217;s star seems undiminished in the Middle East

DUBAI: This week marked 10 years since the death of Michael Jackson. As Saudi Arabia prepares to welcome &#8220;Thriller Live,&#8221; an international tribute show dedicated to the late King of Pop, which toured the UAE earlier this year, it seems Jackson&#8217;s stardom &#8212; at least in the Middle East &#8212; is not fading. Many fans can&#8217;t believe it has already been 10 years since the passing of this megastar; a man who&#8217;d spent pretty much his entire life in the spotlight, in all senses; a man who wrote and sang some of the finest pop songs ever, and who became the first (and so far the only) pop star to enter the Dance Hall of Fame.

His undeniable talent was otherworldly. As was Jackson himself. That was thanks in part to his odd mannerisms &#8212; his air of childhood innocence, his tremulous speaking voice &#8212; and in part the fact that his skin color and appearance changed so markedly throughout his life.

As a performer and musician, Jackson was idolized around the world. He became an enormous part of people&#8217;s lives &#8212; and arguably the most recognizable person in history, despite all the surgery.

He was also, it is alleged, a serial pedophile.

Those allegations date back. In 1993, Evan Chandler accused Jackson of sexually abusing his 13-year-old son Jordan. In January 1994, Jackson reportedly reached a financial settlement of $23 million with the Chandlers and in September that year the criminal investigation was closed.

In the early 2000s, similar allegations were made. This time, the case went to trial and Jackson was found not guilty in 2005. Former child actor Macaulay Culkin, star of the &#8220;Home Alone&#8221; films and a frequent visitor to Jackson&#8217;s Neverland ranch (along with several other young boys), testified in support of the pop singer at that trial. As did another of Jackson&#8217;s former child friends, Wade Robson.

Robson is one of two men featured in the documentary, &#8220;Leaving Neverland,&#8221; released earlier this year. Along with James Safechuck (who, when he was younger, also told investigators that he had not been sexually abused by Jackson), Robson now alleges that Jackson did sexually abuse him as a child, and provides graphic descriptions of the acts they engaged in.

The allegations made in the documentary have been rebuffed by Jackson&#8217;s estate, which is suing HBO (which screened the documentary in the US) for $100 million. Both Safechuck and Robson are currently appealing against judgments in their own lawsuits against Jackson, which were dismissed in 2017.

&#8220;Leaving Neverland&#8221; is perhaps the strongest blow yet to Jackson&#8217;s legacy. But it has also served as a rallying point for his supporters, who fervently refuse to believe their idol could have been guilty of child abuse.

Jackson has a huge fanbase in the Middle East. For many, he was the first superstar they heard on heavy rotation in the region, as radio only really took hold in the Gulf in the 1980s. As Saudi Arabian journalist and artist Rym Ghazal explained to Arab News: &#8220;I don&#8217;t think MJ knew just how much his music shaped a whole generation of Arabs &#8212; just how many fans he had here and just how devoted they remained throughout his ordeals. We might not have heard of The Beatles or Elvis Presley, but we sure knew Michael Jackson.&#8221;

Ghazal is, she admits, a huge fan. She even named one of her childhood pets MJ.

&#8220;His music and his songs remain timeless,&#8221; she says. &#8220;He truly put his heart into each song and they touched on universal issues that I could identify with. He sang for the world, for the environment and about healing and kindness at a time when no one even gave nature a second thought. He also sang about accepting others as they are and topics that hit a chord with the public. He was ahead of his time and an enigma.&#8221;

Regarding &#8220;Leaving Neverland,&#8221; she says she has &#8220;doubts about its validity&#8221; because of the element of &#8220;massive financial compensation sought&#8221; and because it is &#8220;one-sided.&#8221; But she also makes a point that many others have echoed: That art should be assessed separately to its maker.

&#8220;Regardless of whatever happened in Michael Jackson&#8217;s personal life, that doesn&#8217;t take away the powerful messages and the beautiful music he created,&#8221; she says.

Others also say that Jackson&#8217;s personal life should not affect appreciation of his music. Ahmed Haram, a student at the American University of Sharjah, counts Jackson among his &#8220;top artists, very talented,&#8221; and says the documentary&#8217;s allegations &#8220;just made me lose a little respect for him, that&#8217;s all.&#8221;

Dubai-based Saudi Arabian radio host Hassan Dennaoui (aka Big Hass) says he does not believe the allegations against Jackson, and suspects there may be a conspiracy behind them.

&#8220;MJ was a pioneer, a music genius, an entertainer at heart, with the most humble intentions to make people happy and just dance. In my opinion his legacy will prevail, even with all the ridiculous allegations that targeted him when he was still alive and recently with the lame excuse of a documentary,&#8221; he says. &#8220;The world is drenched in the will to cause harm regardless of consequences. Personal interests, money and bigger agendas are brought forward and prioritized over the reputation of artists such as MJ. My convictions about him have never changed: the artist and the human being he was show a fragile &#8212; sometimes misunderstood &#8212; individual who was put into stardom too early but succeeded.

&#8220;He was also planning to convert to Islam, which I am sure many parties in power wouldn&#8217;t want to happen, as they knew MJ&#8217;s positive influence,&#8221; he continues. &#8220;Or else they wouldn&#8217;t have tried to sabotage his reputation and discredit his entire career.&#8221;

Others suggest that Jackson&#8217;s own well-documented troubled childhood could lie at the root of the allegations against the star. &#8220;He was a talented musician who didn&#8217;t have a chance at a normal, healthy life,&#8221; says Emirati banker Mohammed Murashi. &#8220;I don&#8217;t know if the allegations against him are true, and if they are it&#8217;s inexcusable, but I&#8217;m certain the abuse he supposedly faced and unusual life left him with numerous issues, and could have contributed to his lack of social norms.&#8221;

Mawaddah, a young lady from Jeddah, says that &#8220;Leaving Neverland&#8221; has not affected her opinion of Jackson&#8217;s music, but that it has made her relationship with the singer more complicated.

&#8220;I am still a fan of his music. Before, I liked him as a person too. I thought he was a nice, very liberated guy. And then I watched the documentary,&#8221; she tells Arab News. &#8220;Right now, every time I go to my playlist on my phone or my computer, I just get that image in my head. I still like his music, but I just leave, most of the time.&#8221;

In Dubai, &#8220;Leaving Neverland&#8221; was shown at Cinema Akil. There were plenty opposed to the film being shown. Journalist William Mullally, who moderated a panel discussion that followed one of the screenings, tells Arab News there were &#8220;a lot of people who were very against it being shown in the first place, and a lot of people who felt it needed to be shown.&#8221; The cinema and Mullally himself received &#8220;hundreds of messages&#8221; from people saying that the film should not be screened. &#8220;It really did feel like the pressure was on in order to downplay any accusations.&#8221;

He continues: &#8220;At the discussion itself, it felt like a lot of the room was pro-Michael Jackson, and two of the four panelists were very skeptical of the allegations and pushed back very hard against anything the film had to say.&#8221;

The arguments in support of Jackson in the room that night, Mullally says, felt very much like &#8220;the kitchen-sink defense,&#8221; with audience members claiming that the documentary was suspect because it failed to mention that one of the accusers had dated Jackson&#8217;s niece when he was younger. Others said there just wasn&#8217;t enough proof presented for them to believe that Jackson was a pedophile.

&#8220;But when they were questioned on what exactly they would require in terms of proof, it got a bit hazy,&#8221; says Mullally. &#8220;It did seem like there was some kind of dissonance in their ability to talk about allegations in general, and the way that predators operate in general, and then apply that same logic to the Michael Jackson story.&#8221;

Mullally understands that impulse though, even if he doesn&#8217;t share it. &#8220;I grew up as a Michael Jackson fan myself. And for a long time I was skeptical of these allegations when they were coming out in the Nineties and the 2000s. I think it just hurts harder with Michael Jackson. He means so much to us. He&#8217;s been a part of the best moments of our lives: playing at our weddings, becoming closer to our family members, and discovering ourselves through music. And I think because of that &#8212; because he feels almost like a member of the family &#8212; people have a knee-jerk reaction to defend him as if he is a member of the family,&#8221; he says. &#8220;They don&#8217;t want to let Michael go.&#8221;

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Mawaddah, a young lady from Jeddah, says that “Leaving Neverland” has not affected her opinion of Jackson’s music, but that it has made her relationship with the singer more complicated.

“I am still a fan of his music. Before, I liked him as a person too. I thought he was a nice, very liberated guy. And then I watched the documentary,” she tells Arab News. “Right now, every time I go to my playlist on my phone or my computer, I just get that image in my head. I still like his music, but I just leave, most of the time.”



This is what Dan Reed/Wade/James wanted by being explicit for people to have this in their head even if people know it is lie. it will pass. I would tell this fan go back and look at all of Jackson charitable stuff, his interviews when he was alive,etc . MJ spirit will show u who he was so when trash like that pops into your head and knowing the lies, it will TICK you off to know people are that evil and will lie on someone like that for greed.
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Mullally was the one who chose to bring it to Dubai so he obviously would claim Pro MJ defense was not convincing. I am happy they faced a lot of backlash for it here in Dubai. I had a conversation with a colleagues here in April. We agreed they are opportunistic vultures and the money aspect alone is enough to question it. Actually my Brit colleague commented I see families who sucked his blood when he was alive and continue to do so now. The worst is behind us. David Geffen is 76 years old he won't live forever. Once he dies everything will be revealed. Oprah and Spielberg r praying this monster outlive them cus they won't be able to face the music alone.
 
According to media reports there is no need? Lol.. um were the ones that told them it would work.

But ok, now that they say no need, we are allowed. Psh..

They were wrong and prefer to act like they are some type of authority than to admit they were wrong.

Media is not in position to be the morality police.. we've been policing them without bades or cuffs and that's why were pissed.
 
Paris78;4261578 said:
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What does the billboard say? Yay:laurelhardydancing:
 
Soundmind;4261612 said:
Mullally was the one who chose to bring it to Dubai so he obviously would claim Pro MJ defense was not convincing. I am happy they faced a lot of backlash for it here in Dubai. I had a conversation with a colleagues here in April. We agreed they are opportunistic vultures and the money aspect alone is enough to question it. Actually my Brit colleague commented I see families who sucked his blood when he was alive and continue to do so now. The worst is behind us. David Geffen is 76 years old he won't live forever. Once he dies everything will be revealed. Oprah and Spielberg r praying this monster outlive them cus they won't be able to face the music alone.
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Why what&#8217;s David Geffen&#8217;s role in all of this.
 
terrell;4261606 said:
"I am still a fan of his music. Before, I liked him as a person too. I thought he was a nice, very liberated guy. And then I watched the documentary,” she tells Arab News. “Right now, every time I go to my playlist on my phone or my computer, I just get that image in my head. I still like his music, but I just leave, most of the time.”
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The thing with the images in the head is normal as we know many fans described shortly after thea watched LN in March.
It has mostly to that people have no expirences and preperation to listen to detailed description of these sexual acts.
(something like this was never before shown TV or played smewhere) and that that MJ triggers strong emotions in in sme fans when he is mention like in LN.
I had this too for two days. But after I understood why it had happened and I listened again to some MJ interviews I knew and felt again what is was the truth and what the wrong image.
And the images flew away and I dindn't saw them and they coulden't be caused anymore.
It needs only a few days time.
I think the people behind LN used psychological trics to cause those images in people!
 
DPW;4261627 said:
Why what&#8217;s David Geffen&#8217;s role in all of this.
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He is a raging paedophile himself. The Lord of paedophilia in Hollywood but hates MJ and MJ hated him so much. Read more about him you will understand. Like Harvey Pigstien, this vulture has used MJ for deflection for decades. He is the mentor and protector of Bryan Signer.
 
It seems that there's been campaign to take down MJ fan accounts, especially on Youtube.

Jonathan Moffett had his Twitter account suspended.

Twitter has blocked my account for posting copyrighted content, so that&#8217;s why my account was temporarily down. I&#8217;m working on disputing this. If you see some of my videos not working, well, now you know why.
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It's thought that MJ 'haters' are reporting accounts for alleged 'hate speech' (where there is none) or copyright violations.

A fan on Twitter said:
A Harpo-Geffen directive has clearly gone out-
Lots of MJ fans accounts are being suspended on youtube today also.
Just a warning don't give 'em any excuses to shut you down
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Another fan said on Twitter:
once again #Oprah is trying to get anyone who leaves a negative comment about her suspended. Careful about your language.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notice the headline. <br>MJ is mentioned once and it's in relation to &quot;negative news&quot; like LN, then quotes his streaming went up 41%. Others mentioned but didn't make the headline. Jackson still captures headlines because the media knows there's still interest, equating to profit. <a href="https://t.co/fvETKS93Dw">https://t.co/fvETKS93Dw</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1144967661723406337?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">29. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">According to Nielsen, &quot;Michael Jackson’s on-demand streams increased by 41%.&quot; 41%! That's a lot of streaming by Jackson fans. Nobody is muting Michael Jackson. <a href="https://t.co/q2c9ZQxtd8">https://t.co/q2c9ZQxtd8</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1144963555164188672?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">29. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In March, after leaving neverland aired, Michael Jackson’s YouTube channel lost 21,000 subscribers....<br><br>... then gained 5 million, and video views went up by 115,000 million<br><br>Make of that what you will &#128526;&#129304;&#127996;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/9LEAwuNTAP">pic.twitter.com/9LEAwuNTAP</a></p>&mdash; Tasha-with-a-Tea (@Tashawithatea) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tashawithatea/status/1145248851231674369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">30. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Really sad <a href="https://t.co/pGuWlif2sw">https://t.co/pGuWlif2sw</a></p>&mdash; Keen Zhang (@mkgenie) <a href="https://twitter.com/mkgenie/status/1144550835742883840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">28. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In March, after leaving neverland aired, Michael Jackson’s YouTube channel lost 21,000 subscribers....<br><br>... then gained 5 million, and video views went up by 115,000 million<br><br>Make of that what you will &#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/9LEAwuNTAP">pic.twitter.com/9LEAwuNTAP</a></p>— Tasha-with-a-Tea (@Tashawithatea) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tashawithatea/status/1145248851231674369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">30. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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That's really sad Michael YouTube lost that much subs. but it's glad to know it gained to 13m. his music videos been getting alot of views since March. especially Smooth Criminal.
 
myosotis said:
It seems that there's been campaign to take down MJ fan accounts, especially on Youtube.

Jonathan Moffett had his Twitter account suspended.



It's thought that MJ 'haters' are reporting accounts for alleged 'hate speech' (where there is none) or copyright violations.

A fan on Twitter said:


Another fan said on Twitter:
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This is ridiculous. i can understand copyright claim but taking down fan accounts just because their a fan of MJ is alittle bit too much. i feel there no need to worry. just be caution.

one thing i can say fans should not be doing hate speeches. there's a differences between telling someone MJ innocent then attacking them and etc. we can't not make people believe what they believe but we can give them the facts. that's all we can really do.
 
Michael didn't lose YouTube subs or gain 5 million. That twitter user has just mixed up the accounts. The Vevo channel is the one with 8 million and it's losing subs because the subs are being moved to the official channel, the one with 13 million. I checked socialblade after LN. Subs and views both went up, not down.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">N1 interview on the 10th anniversary of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a>'s death: John Ziegler <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Zigmanfreud</a> talks 'King of Pop' <a href="https://t.co/2stVwmVKhc">https://t.co/2stVwmVKhc</a></p>&mdash; N1english (@N1info) <a href="https://twitter.com/N1info/status/1144896448766664705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">29. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">John said it well in our interview, Reed got slightly confronted in an interview w/ <a href="https://twitter.com/piersmorgan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@piersmorgan</a> and totally crushed in a French appearance. Since then, he speaks to people who gets him questions in advance and in pre-taped environment ONLY! Not so sure he believes his own bs.</p>&mdash; Ika Ferrer Goti&#263; (@IkaFerrerGotic) <a href="https://twitter.com/IkaFerrerGotic/status/1144770716581203974?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">29. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As we speak: more on Michael Jackson&#39;s legacy with <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Zigmanfreud</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/N1info?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@N1info</a>! What a way to close the news week! Cheers and good night, world! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/10YearsWithoutMichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#10YearsWithoutMichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LN?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LN</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SundayMotivation?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SundayMotivation</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/fzXRIBg8lL">pic.twitter.com/fzXRIBg8lL</a></p>&mdash; Ika Ferrer Goti&#263; (@IkaFerrerGotic) <a href="https://twitter.com/IkaFerrerGotic/status/1145420969252663296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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