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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

I am back after a little break with a few YouTube videos which were uploaded in the last days:

"Leaving Neverland : John Ziegler Update... Stars are Speaking Out ? Boy George *Madonna *TMZ *Fox 5" from the 3T Fanchannel
3.711 views


Jermains TMZ Statement to the Quincy Jones Comcert


Live Stream May 11th, 2019 from the Michael Jackson Innocent Project
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"Leaving Neverland : Taj Jackson "BRACE YOURSELF" (Teaser) ??? It's Time for The TRUTH" from the 3T Fanchannel


( It is not clear if this is really Tajs Trailer to his documentery!)

"Leaving Neverland : MUTE WHO!!! CAN YOU FEEL IT ? J5 ??? Beautiful Hamburg Fireworks Show 5-11-19" from the 3 T Fanchannel
1.354 views


I will post more later
 
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NatureCriminal7896 said:
Michael was murder by that doctor and anyone else who was involved during that time.
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Oh I agree. But I think Rocky means MJ had been shitted on for all of his life almost, all those lies by people (accusers) and the media really did a number on him. He had insomnia because of all those things. If those horrible lies never started, things would have looked way different now for sure.
 
Nantucket Cat said:
Funny you should mention that; I have seen posters of LN for sale on eBay. Not sure who's buying that, but okay.
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If any get sold it'll probably be Dan Reed buying them. They should've made a poster with the 'Back to the Train Station' image.
 
NatureCriminal7896 said:
I have too and been reporting them to ebay. i also been messaging the sellers. let me tell you, half these sellers believe in this mockumentary and half of them i got into argument with. ugh. it's crazy. hopefully by the end of this year everything will be back to normal and pass on. there's alot of things that been taken down since this stupid mockumentary came out. i hope all the things that been taken down will be put back. somethings gonna be moved to other places and taken by fans.

it's really sad how it got to this point. boy i hope and pray that things will get better and that all things that have been damage be undamaged. i'm sorry Michael,his fans,and family are going though this.

let there be more light. then it is now.

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It must have worked because I just checked and I can only see one seller on there now. What items have been taken down since LN?
 
ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
"Leaving Neverland : Taj Jackson "BRACE YOURSELF" (Teaser) ??? It's Time for The TRUTH" from the 3T Fanchannel


( It is not clear if this is really Tajs Trailer to his documentery!)
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It's from his gofundme page. He put it at the end of his May 1st update. Obviously it's not a proper trailer. It's just a visual aid.
 
NatureCriminal7896 said:
I have too and been reporting them to ebay. i also been messaging the sellers. let me tell you, half these sellers believe in this mockumentary and half of them i got into argument with. ugh. it's crazy. hopefully by the end of this year everything will be back to normal and pass on. there's alot of things that been taken down since this stupid mockumentary came out. i hope all the things that been taken down will be put back. somethings gonna be moved to other places and taken by fans.

it's really sad how it got to this point. boy i hope and pray that things will get better and that all things that have been damage be undamaged. i'm sorry Michael,his fans,and family are going though this.

let there be more light. then it is now.

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There will be. It is happening now and will get even better. These evil people have to remember they have to answer for what they are doing to an innocent man. MJ will get pass this and rise higher as it always do. If u feel down, just remember this bible verse and God do not lie on his word:

[h=2]Isaiah 54:17[/h][h=1]Isaiah 54:17 KJV[/h]No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
KJV: King James Version
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you Dan for you “documentary” it has made me a fan of Michael and appreciate his music even more. It made me realize what a good hearted person he was and how badly he was treated by people in return. It was an eye opener.</p>&mdash; Daana (@Daana12_) <a href="https://twitter.com/Daana12_/status/1127760571930116097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">13. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I feel the same I never listened to or read so much about <a href="https://twitter.com/michaeljackson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@michaeljackson</a> before this crazy doc and now am convinced he was truly innocent- a victim of the media. Plus, his kids seem so well adjusted and passionate about helping the homeless. Thanks 4 raising awareness</p>&mdash; Carol Lynne (@carolyn525) <a href="https://twitter.com/carolyn525/status/1127994814732079104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">13. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Beginning to wonder leaving neverland was made to prove Michael Jackson was innocent</p>&mdash; Richard Patrick (@SnakeHaven) <a href="https://twitter.com/SnakeHaven/status/1127964845721227264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">13. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Honestly I'm listening to MJ more than ever since the documentary came out. Ive been listening to mj on a daily basis for 6 weeks straight. Absolutely love it..Thanks dan for bringing mjs music back into my life! It's not just me either,his streaming numbers have also increased.</p>&mdash; Ricky jo (@Rickyjo77644882) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rickyjo77644882/status/1127903377285713920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">13. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I did not know Michael Jackson very well before all those YouTube videos defending him came out. It made me discover the wonderful person that he was. He was too pure for this world. I'm not surprised the wolves ate him up, and are still fighting over his bones.</p>&mdash; Jimmy Costa (@JimmyCosta17) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimmyCosta17/status/1128127044510871554?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">14. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Honestly, thank you for LN! Seriously. I would’ve went the rest of my life thinking MJ was a musical genius who was guilty and not realized he was a genius who was also an amazing human being who did so much for others and was constantly the victim of extortion and vultures.</p>&mdash; Hoodisms (@Hoodisms1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Hoodisms1/status/1127973556200013824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">13. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJinnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJinnocent</a> tour of the USA MJ fans from Russia and Ukraine.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mjfam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mjfam</a><a href="https://t.co/eASX3SdVXM">https://t.co/eASX3SdVXM</a> <a href="https://t.co/xttndyIwkK">pic.twitter.com/xttndyIwkK</a></p>&mdash; Ilariya Ustinskaya (@molineziya) <a href="https://twitter.com/molineziya/status/1128682921039212544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">15. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a>'s &quot;Thriller&quot; leaves the Billboard 200 Charts only to re-enter at #195 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KingOfPop?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KingOfPop</a> <a href="https://t.co/DV9WBdDC1O">pic.twitter.com/DV9WBdDC1O</a></p>&mdash; King Of Pop On Spotify (@MJJOnSpotify) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJOnSpotify/status/1128361332967968768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">14. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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1nn5 said:
I watched it.
He's a doctor of which speciality?
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Not sure but he says a few times he's worked with victims of abuse. I really appreciated his perspective. He has no horse in this race so I always enjoy opinions of those who don't have an agenda either way.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
Why is this ex FBI guy Jim Clemente so hellbent on convincing people MJ was something he really wasn't? What is it with that dude?
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A self proclaimed victim of abuse who turned to be a textbook sociopath. A documented liar and manipulator who made a career of being a victim.
 
About Jim Clemente, When a person in position to get attention can do so without any legal remifications... SOME simply will just take advantage of the opportunity.



PS. If any of you like short comics, You can see some factual ones with the IN JUSTICE campaign: https://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/...ollective-guide-surrounding-Leaving-Neverland

Some more will be uploaded on MJJC twitter in the upcoming days.. Hope you like! :)
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
Why is this ex FBI guy Jim Clemente so hellbent on convincing people MJ was something he really wasn't? What is it with that dude?
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He doesn't handle/accept the truth and now he's a complete moron, guess the poison of lies damaged his brain.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
Why is this ex FBI guy Jim Clemente so hellbent on convincing people MJ was something he really wasn't? What is it with that dude?
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He is a liar. What you saw in that FBI report is what the FBI found and concluded to in the end. IF the FBI had anything, that would would have been in the FBI report and MJ would have been brought up on FEDERAL charges. Clements does NOT work for the FBI no more so he does not fall under the "ethnical standard" by the Bureau to be written up or fired. He is giving his opinion and MJ is dead. What ever was in the REAL FBI report, THAT is what they have on MJ which was NOTHING.
 
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Staffordshire Bullterrier;4258047 said:
Why is this ex FBI guy Jim Clemente so hellbent on convincing people MJ was something he really wasn't? What is it with that dude?
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InThis is the nut that Dian DEMONd uses as her “law enforcement source”. They are both sick haters with an agenda. She is a liar and this Clemente guy is a liar. Any sane person knows that if the FBI or police had found anything on Michael, Sneddon would have used it against him.
 
While the media keep paying, Clemente will keep talking.

It's a reciprocal relationship. The more outrageous Clemente's unsubstantiated claims the more he gets paid by the media and the media have the illusion of authenticity for their stories by claiming they came from somebody who worked for the FBI.

Both are covered by the fact MJ is dead and can do nothing.

In reality Clemente knows very little about the MJ allegations. He appears to lean heavily on tabloid tales from long ago and also seems to make stories up as he goes.

Similarly Dimond, despite spending years professing to be an expert on MJ and the allegations, seems to know very little of any substance. Both people are wheeled out to add a negative spin to a story whenever needed. They're not paid for facts.

BOTH could have spent time learning about their subject and actually talk some sense, but as facts are irrelevant to the media, and in MJ's case facts directly contradict the agenda, neither person has bothered to educate themselves.

Dimond even suggested recently that a 12 year old boy would be unable to realise the difference between a two story train station as big as a house and a small open-air train shelter with a bench. It takes a special kind of stupid to even consider tweeting that.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
Why is this ex FBI guy Jim Clemente so hellbent on convincing people MJ was something he really wasn't? What is it with that dude?
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I never heard of this guy until I saw his name mentioned here.

In my opinion, this guy, Diane Dimond, and folks like them are "hellbent," because after all they have said and done, Michael's fanbase is STILL here. Stronger Then Ever!!!!! It must really piss them off that MJ's fans are out there fighting hard for him, all over the world. So for Jim and Diane, this is personal. How dare WE not believe the failed "journalist," and the ex-FBI Profiler. LOL!

Michael's acquittal in 2005 and being unable to "mute" him in 2019, has denied both of these idiots, what they really crave (especially Diane), that being: FAME!!!!!

Diane wants to be the new Diane Sawyer/Barbara Walters and Jim probably wants to be the new J. Edgar Hoover (minus the dress).
 
Jim probably wants to be the new J. Edgar Hoover (minus the dress).

You are crazy!!! LOL. But true.
 
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