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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

Mike P. said:
Was it ever proven that he actually smoked? Is there anything else besides that one photo which alot of people have seen that shows him with a cigarette or actually putting one in his mouth? It's not unheard of for people to pose with a Cigarette for a photo as a joke or something.

It wouldn't personally bother me if he did choose to smoke either, It just doesn't seem like it would be his sort of thing.
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Ironically, the other day I saw (what I thought was super-imposed) photo of him with a cigarette in his hand and Johnny Depp standing next to him. So not sure which photo was real and what was added. I just assumed since JD was in it - it was a fake photo. MJ was wearing what looked like a raincoat.
 
Michael never smoked as far as i noticed. he did drink wine. he also drank beer a few times in his 20's i think. if people claiming he smoked, that picture of him with the blue jacket holding a cigarette is a joke. he was just being silly. if Michael did smoked we will never know.
 
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so the second part of john zieglers interview with tom mesereau is only audio but no video right?
 
Soundmind said:
He's just received the public verdict on his performance. BIG FAILURE. When the parents and staff of a school vote to keep the name of a man who has 99.99% of the media call the most prolific paedophile in history, then the defeat to Wade and the media is nothing short of huge.
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Particularly huge because joy Robson was on to the school telling them it should be taken down. They would never have ignored the request without the vote. 70% in favour if keeping it!
 
KerryWard
@FallAgainMJ
Source: @MJJJusticePrjct Looks like #WadeRobson has 99 problems - and three unpaid tax bills are some of them....

Tax defaults from 2015 to 2017 - before his company was forced into liquidation - and THAT'S why his website disappeared...#MJTruthSquad

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Mimi
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@MJJJusticePrjct
You might be interested in these docs. It came from a lead you provided recently. Not a whole lot to see except his application states it’s for the purpose of “documentary film making”. Foreign business cert. was revoked involuntarily for lack of reporting.

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Justice for The Falsely Accused
@JuliaBerkowitz1
Notice the date of this registration! May 2014. So he registered a for-profit documentary film making company WHILE in court docs he alleged he could not direct or make films in any manner or capacity due to his alleged sexual abuse by MJ, so he needs financial compensation.
 
The Michael Jackson Innocent Project has this smoking weed rumor from a book someone else wrote who not even semed to be really close to Michael.
I don't like that they talked about this as it is fact!
And even if it is true I think MJ was a very curious man who was not afraid to try things out for a short time to amplify his horizon.
But this will be it with MJ and smoking weed!
It woud be really stupid for him to do it constantly with all his health issues and his constantly dacing practice til his death.
He said in the 80ies needs to dance every sunday for many hours to cure his addiction for always wanted to be on stage!
 
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elusive moonwalker;4256557 said:
KerryWard
@FallAgainMJ
Source: @MJJJusticePrjct Looks like #WadeRobson has 99 problems - and three unpaid tax bills are some of them....

Tax defaults from 2015 to 2017 - before his company was forced into liquidation - and THAT'S why his website disappeared...#MJTruthSquad

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9:54 PM - Apr 27, 2019
195 people are talking about this


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Mimi
@bleugangsta
@MJJJusticePrjct
You might be interested in these docs. It came from a lead you provided recently. Not a whole lot to see except his application states it’s for the purpose of “documentary film making”. Foreign business cert. was revoked involuntarily for lack of reporting.

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5:56 AM - Apr 28, 2019



Justice for The Falsely Accused
@JuliaBerkowitz1
Notice the date of this registration! May 2014. So he registered a for-profit documentary film making company WHILE in court docs he alleged he could not direct or make films in any manner or capacity due to his alleged sexual abuse by MJ, so he needs financial compensation.
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This is very interesting! Maybe he was planning a leaving Neverland style film at that point.
 
Such a piece of shit that Wade, just had to insert that "I was molested etc" in there huh. When he talks about the school. And trying to act like he's the good guy that can actually stay neutral by saying they commend the school. Bitch boy, you weren't abused at all and your lies will catch up to you, whether that's in this lifetime or when it's finally you're time to leave. I pray every day that this **** boy won't get away with it.
 
Can it be confirmed if he went to the same school? From teacher and class mates?
 
Dudex said:
it was revealed by Frank Cascio "My friend Michael", so i'm pretty sure it's not a rumor.
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I don't trust Frank Casio 100 percent in everthing he wrote in his book.
I think he wrote many things in his book to make it exiting in the first place and to sell it better, maybe he made some of them up.
He only came forward very shortly after the Sundance announcement of LN and then we heared nothing from the Casisos anymore.
He could have been an very helpful witness in the 2005 trail but refused to testify as far as I know.

Its sadly too easy to whrite and tell storys about a deseased person!
I am very careful to belive things people are telling or whriting abot MJ after his death!
 
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ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
The Michael Jackson Innocent Project has this smoking weed rumor from a book someone else wrote who not even semed to be really close to Michael.
I don't like that they talked about this as it is fact!
And even if it is true I think MJ was a very curious man who was not afraid to try things out for a short time to amplify his horizon.
But this will be it with MJ and smoking weed!
It woud be really stupid for him to do it constantly with all his health issues and his constantly dacing practice til his death.
He said in the 80ies needs to dance every sunday for many hours to cure his addiction for always wanted to be on stage!
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That was frank cascio aka tyson.personally i take anything even slightly juicy anyone writes in a tell with a large pinch of salt because they have to spice it up inorder to get a deal in the first place. Anyone who believes without question is imo gulible and niave
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
Such a piece of shit that Wade, just had to insert that "I was molested etc" in there huh. When he talks about the school. And trying to act like he's the good guy that can actually stay neutral by saying they commend the school. Bitch boy, you weren't abused at all and your lies will catch up to you, whether that's in this lifetime or when it's finally you're time to leave. I pray every day that this **** boy won't get away with it.
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That wont fly with people with brains in what Wade is doing. He is clearly a liar and people can see through it except haters (and haters want to believe it even if God came down and told them it is a lie).
 
ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona;4256558 said:
The Michael Jackson Innocent Project has this smoking weed rumor from a book someone else wrote who not even semed to be really close to Michael.
I don't like that they talked about this as it is fact!
And even if it is true I think MJ was a very curious man who was not afraid to try things out for a short time to amplify his horizon.
But this will be it with MJ and smoking weed!
It woud be really stupid for him to do it constantly with all his health issues and his constantly dacing practice til his death.
He said in the 80ies needs to dance every sunday for many hours to cure his addiction for always wanted to be on stage!
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Good chance he did smoke a bit but who cares he’s human. If you remember correctly they found a small bag in his room when he died.
 
For Spanish speakers: Interview with Gloria Rhoads Berlin, who worked for (?) the Real Estate Agent who sold NL to MJ, and wrote a nice book....

https://www.univision.com/shows/pri...a-de-las-acusaciones-contra-el-cantante-video

(This format doesn't seem to 'embed' ) This is the same link.

[video]https://www.univision.com/shows/primer-impacto/la-hispana-que-ayudo-a-michael-jackson-a-comprar-neverland-habla-de-las-acusaciones-contra-el-cantante-video[/video]
 
MJPoetryFan said:
I'm listening to the Michael Jackson innocent project live youtube podcast and I didn't know MJ smoked. I never saw that photo of MJ with a cigarette in his hand. I'm an older fan and didn't know this info. Does anyone know at what age he started?

I don't mind that he did - I'm just saying I didn't know this. They are talking about how Taj needs to humanize MJ and that he should bring this up? Do you agree? I think if it were any other celeb, I'd say for sure, bring it up, but we all know the media always held MJ to a different standard he needed to live by. And yes, sure MJ feed into that image as well (a mistake) but I fear bringing this up as something we didn't ever know about MJ - will just feed the media's mistrust of MJ and how he came off and how he "was" they will spin it to be a sinister thing that he wanted this to remain a secret.

Thoughts?
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Where are they getting this information from exactly? Because that photo of him with the cigarette is a joke.
 
MJTruth said:
Particularly huge because joy Robson was on to the school telling them it should be taken down. They would never have ignored the request without the vote. 70% in favour if keeping it!
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That should tell people something about these fools right there. She defended MJ for 20 years, defended him in court, lied with her son in 2013 and now after LN, you want a school to remove his name since your son have a court appeal this summer?
 
Anna said:
Where are they getting this information from exactly? Because that photo of him with the cigarette is a joke.
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Me too I know it's joke.
I don't see Michael hide the fact that he's somking.
That's what believing books do.
 
Smooth72;4256574 said:
Good chance he did smoke a bit but who cares he’s human. If you remember correctly they found a small bag in his room when he died.
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I agree, I was going to bring that up. Im sure he at least tried smoking weed for medical uses. Didnt someone say MJ smoked with another artist? I cant remember the name. We know he drank at least occasionally.

Glad the School made the right decision.
 
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More Receipts exposing Wade...
Check out @JuliaBerkowitz1’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/JuliaBerkowitz1/status/1122377139259625472?s=09
Notice the date of this registration! May 2014. So he registered a for-profit documentary film making company WHILE in court docs he alleged he could not direct or make films in any manner or capacity due to his alleged sexual abuse by MJ, so he needs financial compensation. https://t.co/ySJaJNbCjO
Check out @bleugangsta’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/bleugangsta/status/1122348928526106624?s=09
 
Im pretty sure Michael Jackson was NOT a cigarette smoker. I have heard however from multiple sources that MJ did smoke weed from time to time, more so just to calm his nerves and relax. It was not a daily thing. I personally don't care, I smoke weed the odd time myself. It's 100% legal in Canada and 80% of the country has admitted to smoking it at some point in their lives. If Michael needed to puff the odd time to chill out, nothing wrong with that!
 
It's probably the idea that Michael would smoke, the idea of how that would look. I can understand why this would seem unlikely for some people but at the end of the day why not? :)
 
horselightning said:
Corey Feldman wonders if Michael Jackson was grooming him

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/entertainment/corey-feldman-michael-jackson/index.html


Hmm Feldman changing his tune here? Does not sound like he so for Michael anymore.
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He said his words were taken out of context and he was not happy about it on his twitter. I say he just needs to be quiet about MJ now. CNN wants clicks now and I wont give it to them. They were avoiding the stories for awhile but I guess they want part of the action now. funny they are not talking about Weinstein.
 
Anna said:
Where are they getting this information from exactly? Because that photo of him with the cigarette is a joke.
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I don't know, Anna. They just referred to it as "that photo" and that it wasn't super-imposed or something to that affect.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
It's probably the idea that Michael would smoke, the idea of how that would look. I can understand why this would seem unlikely for some people but at the end of the day why not? :)
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Exactly, I'd rather take MJ being a smoker than him, unfortunately, becoming addicted to prescription medication that in the end, killed him. He'd have been alive still if his only vices were cigarettes or marajuana.
 
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