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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You guys seen this? It's Oprah's goddaughter saying to Oprah she needs to apologize to Michael. Even her own goddaughter calling her out. What are your thoughts on this? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/I2sL85riGC">pic.twitter.com/I2sL85riGC</a></p>&mdash; desertrose (@desert_rosee3) <a href="https://twitter.com/desert_rosee3/status/1122201134792347649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">27. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yassssss!!!! Michael Jackson’s name to remain on L.A. school auditorium despite sex abuse claims - Los Angeles Times <a href="https://t.co/GcIigZLPWL">https://t.co/GcIigZLPWL</a></p>&mdash; Melanie321 (@Mellie4Justice) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mellie4Justice/status/1122205348444745731?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">27. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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What What annoys me in these allegations is that WR and JS will make other declaration about MJ.
Who will/ could stop them ! I don't know.
 
Laurendaccio;4256497 said:
What did he say ? I am glad this mother****er is angry .
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&#8220;We lived in Hollywood close to Gardner Street School, which is why I went there,&#8221; said Robson, whose family came from Australia to the United States so he could pursue a career as a child performer. &#8220;This was right after Michael Jackson sponsored me to the U.S. and while he was still sexually abusing me.&#8221;

Jackson was charged and acquitted in 2005 in a separate sexual abuse case involving another boy. During the criminal trial, Robson testified in Jackson&#8217;s defense that the singer had never been sexually inappropriate with him. He came forward with a different account after Jackson&#8217;s death, claiming he&#8217;d been sexually abused by Jackson as a boy.

&#8220;I commend Gardner Street School for allowing the parents to decide whether or not Michael Jackson&#8217;s name should remain on the auditorium,&#8221; Robson said.
 
Was Toni's career affected once she spoke out about Oprah? Oprah is just a hateful, jealous wench. The Gaul of this woman.
 
myosotis;4256510 said:
“We lived in Hollywood close to Gardner Street School, which is why I went there,” said Robson, whose family came from Australia to the United States so he could pursue a career as a child performer. “This was right after Michael Jackson sponsored me to the U.S. and while he was still sexually abusing me.”

Jackson was charged and acquitted in 2005 in a separate sexual abuse case involving another boy. During the criminal trial, Robson testified in Jackson’s defense that the singer had never been sexually inappropriate with him. He came forward with a different account after Jackson’s death, claiming he’d been sexually abused by Jackson as a boy.

“I commend Gardner Street School for allowing the parents to decide whether or not Michael Jackson’s name should remain on the auditorium,” Robson said.
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**** you Wade Robson!
He should not be allowed to speak on this!
The most important thing he want to reach with the accusations is to be relevant!
And they make him relevant in asking him those Questions!
 
The Michael Jackson Innocent Project with a new Podcast Episode:


They talked shorty about Jocobshagen in the beginning and the talk Suza from the Michael Jackson Innocent Project had with him on the phone in January for two hours.
So this phone conversation seamed to really have taken place and was not something the Innocent Project of Mikey Dee have invented.
 
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Have you all watched the Danny Wu youtube interview with Liam McEwan? Nearer to the end, Danny Wu is saying he will be talking with a defense witness that would have been called into court during MJ's trial if they forced Jordi to testify.

I cannot wait to listen to that. He said this woman is pretty well established (not sure what she does for a living) but one of the things she will claim is that Jordi has come to MJ's defense during the Bashir interview at school when other classmates would say MJ was a molestor. She is claiming Jordi would insert himself into the conversation to say he doesn't believe MJ is a child molester. Hmmm!!
 
ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
The Michael Jackson Innocent Project with a new Podcast Episode:


They talked shorty about Jocobshagen in the beginning and the talk Suza from the Michael Jackson Innocent Project had with him on the phone in January for two hours.
So this phone conversation seamed to really have taken place and was not something the Innocent Project of Mikey Dee have invented.
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I just finished listening to their April 20th episode. Can someone explain to me who these women are?
 
MJPoetryFan said:
Have you all watched the Danny Wu youtube interview with Liam McEwan? Nearer to the end, Danny Wu is saying he will be talking with a defense witness that would have been called into court during MJ's trial if they forced Jordi to testify.

I cannot wait to listen to that. He said this woman is pretty well established (not sure what she does for a living) but one of the things she will claim is that Jordi has come to MJ's defense during the Bashir interview at school when other classmates would say MJ was a molestor. She is claiming Jordi would insert himself into the conversation to say he doesn't believe MJ is a child molester. Hmmm!!
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I hope she shows evidence for knowing Jordan Chandler or beeing his classmate in this interview.
Danny Wu should beggin her to do that as best as she can!
I know that there was a woman who came out after the sundance announcement of LNsaying she was on the defence witness list on 2005 because of Jordan Chandler.
Maybe it is the same woman.
 
ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
I hope she shows evidence for knowing Jordan Chandler or beeing his classmate in this interview.
Danny Wu should beggin her to do that as best as she can!
I know that there was a woman who came out after the sundance announcement of LNsaying she was on the defence witness list on 2005 because of Jordan Chandler.
Waybe it is the same woman.
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I hope she is credible and Danny Wu did really do a background check.
 
It gives me hope that people like Liam McEwan and Danny Wu are believers in MJ's innocence because it's showing MJ's legacy has spread to the millennials. These are the people that will hopefully will carry on the passion to show MJ's side.
 
Soundmind said:
He's just received the public verdict on his performance. BIG FAILURE. When the parents and staff of a school vote to keep the name of a man who has 99.99% of the media call the most prolific paedophile in history, then the defeat to Wade and the media is nothing short of huge.
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People see BS. And the media is full of it. They do not know, GOD is in controll.
 
I love that the vote was a majority. These news a-holes were so certain they'd vote to remove his name, they wanted to be on this watch. They want any victory of muting MJ no matter how small the win. But I don't see this as a small victory for MJ's legacy. These were parents that voted for this. It's encouraging to me that once people let the grossness wared off about how graffic the allegations were - I think deep down these parents felt that to remove MJ's name was too drastic and they weren't ready turn on MJ completely.
 
I commend Gardner Street School for allowing the parents to decide whether or not Michael Jackson&#8217;s name should remain on the auditorium,&#8221; Robson said.


Did this fool say this? Huh.
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It's so refreshing to listen to Danny Wu and Liam McEwan just be fans and talk MJ memories growing up. I love seeing younger fans love MJ.
 
terrell;4256528 said:
I commend Gardner Street School for allowing the parents to decide whether or not Michael Jackson&#8217;s name should remain on the auditorium,&#8221; Robson said.


Did this fool say this? Huh.
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He's so condescending. He injects himself even about muting MJ - saying he isn't judge and juror. **** you, Wade.
 
MJPoetryFan said:
He's so condescending. He injects himself even about muting MJ - saying he isn't judge and juror. **** you, Wade.
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He knows he spreading LIES. Also, I hope the Estate or family commend the parents and school in being fair and not going by the MEDIA lynch mob (it is not the public).
 
I'm listening to the Michael Jackson innocent project live youtube podcast and I didn't know MJ smoked. I never saw that photo of MJ with a cigarette in his hand. I'm an older fan and didn't know this info. Does anyone know at what age he started?

I don't mind that he did - I'm just saying I didn't know this. They are talking about how Taj needs to humanize MJ and that he should bring this up? Do you agree? I think if it were any other celeb, I'd say for sure, bring it up, but we all know the media always held MJ to a different standard he needed to live by. And yes, sure MJ feed into that image as well (a mistake) but I fear bringing this up as something we didn't ever know about MJ - will just feed the media's mistrust of MJ and how he came off and how he "was" they will spin it to be a sinister thing that he wanted this to remain a secret.

Thoughts?
 
Glanni said:
michael smoked? hahaha. definitely not.
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The ladies on that podcast spoke about it as it was known fact to some people (not not all of us). They did say some fans would reject this truth. I don't. I don't judge him for that. I just worry about how the media will twist this into a sinister thing that he managed to keep it a secret from the public. I think this side of MJ will be what Aaron will speak to.
 
MJPoetryFan said:
I'm listening to the Michael Jackson innocent project live youtube podcast and I didn't know MJ smoked. I never saw that photo of MJ with a cigarette in his hand. I'm an older fan and didn't know this info. Does anyone know at what age he started?

I don't mind that he did - I'm just saying I didn't know this. They are talking about how Taj needs to humanize MJ and that he should bring this up? Do you agree? I think if it were any other celeb, I'd say for sure, bring it up, but we all know the media always held MJ to a different standard he needed to live by. And yes, sure MJ feed into that image as well (a mistake) but I fear bringing this up as something we didn't ever know about MJ - will just feed the media's mistrust of MJ and how he came off and how he "was" they will spin it to be a sinister thing that he wanted this to remain a secret.

Thoughts?
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At one time, MJ did not drink nor smoked. I knew he dranked a little but I do not buy that smoking but if he did, it is no big deal. People do not announce stuff like that not even Most celebs. What MJ had to put up with, I wont be surprise if he did smoke even occasionally to calm his nerves.
 
Was it ever proven that he actually smoked? Is there anything else besides that one photo which alot of people have seen that shows him with a cigarette or actually putting one in his mouth? It's not unheard of for people to pose with a Cigarette for a photo as a joke or something.

It wouldn't personally bother me if he did choose to smoke either, It just doesn't seem like it would be his sort of thing.
 
terrell said:
At one time, MJ did not drink nor smoked. I knew he dranked a little but I do not buy that smoking but if he did, it is no big deal. People do not announce stuff like that not even Most celebs. What MJ had to put up with, I wont be surprise if he did smoke even occasionally to calm his nerves.
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I agree. They said he only smoked while he had a glass of wine, so I don't get the feeling he was a chain smoker, just an occasional one. Do you know of this photo of MJ with a cigarette? I'd like to see it if you or anyone has it. Thanks.
 
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