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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

"100 Percent Proof that Michael was innocent" from "Inaworldoflove"
9.909 views on March 26 2019


Please tell the uploader when you have an YouTube accound that he must bring # in his video descriptions like #LeavingNeverland
 
KOPV said:
Someone on youtube mentioned that IMDB is clearing out some negitive reviews on LN.. If you have 5 minutes on your hand, post a factual negitive review on IMDB! That site is often used for movie info and reviews.
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Everyone who made a negative Review of LN should make a screenshot from it and check in the next weeks if ir is delated.
When it is delated all people where this did happend should send the screenshots to ONE trustful YouTuber with a bigger channel who can make a video out of it.
 
mjtruth said:
yes your experience is not unusual.

When it comes to discussing mj the world has gone mad.

Did you see that some journalist posted on twitter that mj had controlled the narrative for the past 35 years! Seriously! What on earth was she smoking?? This woman who is a journalist!! It is beyond outrageous and infuriating to read the media write something like that.

I have a real hard time understanding where the media is coming from.

I only see two options and to be honest both are incomprehesible.

(a) are these people so vindictive, so evil that they knowingly destroy an innocent man, even when they're not being paid to do so?? (they even do it on their personal social media accounts).

Or

(b) are they so stupid that despite working in the most corrupt industry in the world (knowing that they write crap for a living and that it has been going on for years) they actually believe all the crap written about mj?

Similarly celebrities, in particular the ones that have been around for decades, should know by now that the media is corrupt. Most will have been victim to inaccurate reporting and smear campaigns at some point, or at least have been friends with somebody else who was. So why do they (i'm looking at you babs) feel the need to condemn a person based on no evidence?? They need to stfu!


Anyway, because of the media controlling the narrative over the last 35 years general public are so misinformed that they simply cannot open their mind to any other version of events.
I can understand it. They have seen every media outlet report the same repeated lies for decades. The media's story has been so wrong, but in a very consistent way, for so long.

It'll take some real effort to change attitudes
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that is why we need a big worldwide protest for michael and against the media on june 13 this year!!!
 
The media words things to dismiss anyone that defends Michael..

fans = 'crazed', 'obsessed', 'defend Michael because he moonwalked'.. Turnning us into 2D dumb @$$es that are easily dismissable
celebs = 'Victim shamer', 'pedo protector', 'Diana Ross defending Michael Jackson is UPSETTING'..

meanwhile the 3 stooges get 'brave', 'astonishing', 'victims'...

All emotional manipulation due to the fact there are NO facts to back their claims. They no longer even have to use the word 'alleged' referring Michael anymore..


But hey, WE are the brainwashed ones right? yeah ok! and all we try to say is "do the research", "hear what I have to say".. simple!
 
WildStyle said:
The video cuts off but pretty sure he's talking about the Jackson's protecting their "cash cow" again. Not that it's all about them getting all of the estate's money. He's not dumb enough to say something like that.
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I would love to find the interview to know exectly what he said.
But it is a very strange begining for me to answer this question.
Sounds very dishonest.
 
ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
I would love to find the interview to know exectly what he said.
But it is a very strange begining for me to answer this question.
Sounds very dishonest.
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Full interview. Its right that hes referring to the Estate and the Jacksons protecting their cash cow.
 
L.T.D said:
Full interview. Its right that hes referring to the Estate and the Jacksons protecting their cash cow.
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That fool and his 2 bandits are trying to milk that "cash cow" with lies and going around the world trying to sell it. He need to sit his @$$ down.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;It is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. It's all about Jackson's Estate money and the Jackson family money&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mjinnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mjinnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/iPKMz1sb8q">pic.twitter.com/iPKMz1sb8q</a></p>&mdash; LaVelle Smith Jr. (@lavellesmithjr_) <a href="https://twitter.com/lavellesmithjr_/status/1110705511752757248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">27. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/skyferreira?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@skyferreira</a> spent 'a lot' of time at Neverland Ranch as a kid and said Michael Jackson gave her career advice <a href="https://t.co/UTLt7zdsoL">https://t.co/UTLt7zdsoL</a> <a href="https://t.co/LbyS6zeASn">pic.twitter.com/LbyS6zeASn</a></p>&mdash; UPROXX (@UPROXX) <a href="https://twitter.com/UPROXX/status/1110540667757965313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When I was going through a difficult time in 1991 Michael left the Studio, came to my house, told my friends they could leave and he would handle everything. How could I not be here for him. Michael is only LIGHT AND LOVE PERIOD &#128536;</p>&mdash; Brenda Harvey Richie (@BrendaRichie) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrendaRichie/status/1110815781686669312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">27. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Schmuley only wants the attention...he is an attention whore. <a href="https://t.co/csY58px2Cp">https://t.co/csY58px2Cp</a></p>&mdash; Karen Faye (@wingheart) <a href="https://twitter.com/wingheart/status/1110555220398862336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After speaking with multiple family connections to <a href="https://twitter.com/michaeljackson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@michaeljackson</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/Mediaite?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Mediaite</a> senior columnist <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Zigmanfreud</a> spotlights glaring holes in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> documentary. My chat with John airs at 5:05 on <a href="https://twitter.com/840WHAS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@840WHAS</a> <a href="https://t.co/EMYwUGhNZA">https://t.co/EMYwUGhNZA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/loumedia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#loumedia</a> <a href="https://t.co/I2IdSxCS6r">pic.twitter.com/I2IdSxCS6r</a></p>&mdash; Terry Meiners (@terrymeiners) <a href="https://twitter.com/terrymeiners/status/1110566554205372416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the first-ever interview I have done in Nigeria. I wish the American media understood what a fraud “Leaving Neverland” is nearly as well as El Che somehow does. <br><br>Good stuff here... <a href="https://t.co/uLtzcZI3Gx">https://t.co/uLtzcZI3Gx</a></p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1110918574757937152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">27. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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This is the first-ever interview I have done in Nigeria. I wish the American media understood what a fraud &#8220;Leaving Neverland&#8221; is nearly as well as El Che somehow does.

Good stuff here... https://t.co/uLtzcZI3Gx
&#8212; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) 27. März 2019


Most American media knows. They just still want to bring MJ down and make $$$$
 
Another contradiction in LN:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="sv"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LN: “Sept 1992” Safechuck tells story about being in LA apt and MJ sleeping with other boy while James cried himself to sleep on the couch over not being the “special” friend anymore. Reality: MJ is touring in Europe, cancelling concerts left and right from exhaustion <a href="https://twitter.com/RAZ0RFIST?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RAZ0RFIST</a></p>&mdash; Paula (@WhiteOwlQueen) <a href="https://twitter.com/WhiteOwlQueen/status/1110696294870331392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">27 mars 2019</a></blockquote>
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During the interview Razorfist had with Taj and Brandi they said Stevie Wonder had shown support for Michael right before Diana Ross showed hers. Did anyone see this? Because I haven't seen that yet.
 
What happened to the longer French interview with Taj, Taryll and TJ that was supposed to be shown before the French airing of LN last week? I saw a short interview with those three guys but was that all?
 
john13th said:
What happened to the longer French interview with Taj, Taryll and TJ that was supposed to be shown before the French airing of LN last week? I saw a short interview with those three guys but was that all?
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I haven't watched the show because the TV talker is annoying, stupid, and his show is trash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWSocpJXyqE

That's all I found on Youtube if that's what you're talking about.
But I think they discussed among themselves after, about the documentary.

I don't think you'll be able to hear anything anyway haha
 
I'm watching Joe Budden TV now, it's his radio thing. It's two weeks old. I wasn't interested in watching it because I really thought he'd side with the two actors. But it's not exactly like that.....neither is it something I can agree on completely, I don't get him at all about one thing. Small part from Joe Budden...he doesn't believe the first guy at all. He says get the **** out of here with him.

"i do believe Mike beat himself off over some boy ass. I believe it because of how that type of sickness is birthed. For me it's not about Mike perse, but what I believe happened in his home from birth. Similar to R Kelly. Even if I believe he never touched any soul, I still believe it's a sickness to feel that close to children. Even if he never touched a soul, I still believe theres a real sickness there. Don't invite them..... If a nine year old boy is staying with me it's sick shit going on. I'm not putting that on Mike, adults be complicit too."

So yeah, kudos to him for seeing through a liar but what in the actual **** at the bolded part. Doesn't make sense one bit.

Ok, I'm done with Budden now. He calls the second guy, Wade his ex. It's so obvious how destroyed he is over missing Mike now. He actually believes he stayed at Neverland for 10 years.
 
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analogue said:
Yeah, fans shouldn't be cutting things out of interviews, because then that makes us no better than Reed, Robson and Safechuck. And it makes it look like we're trying to hide something
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This. As tempting as it is to give them "a taste of their own medicine", it's not a good weapon for fans to use.

KOPV said:
The media words things to dismiss anyone that defends Michael..

fans = 'crazed', 'obsessed', 'defend Michael because he moonwalked'.. Turnning us into 2D dumb @$$es that are easily dismissable
celebs = 'Victim shamer', 'pedo protector', 'Diana Ross defending Michael Jackson is UPSETTING'..

meanwhile the 3 stooges get 'brave', 'astonishing', 'victims'...

All emotional manipulation due to the fact there are NO facts to back their claims. They no longer even have to use the word 'alleged' referring Michael anymore..


But hey, WE are the brainwashed ones right? yeah ok! and all we try to say is "do the research", "hear what I have to say".. simple!
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Michael was 100% right about the press and how they manipulate the readers. He tried to warn everyone about fake news before Trump popularized the term. The fact that we live in the year 2019 and people are still falling for this shit is just plain sad.
 
To the People who can unterstand German...

It is off topic because it has NOTHING to do with Michael Jackson but with Peodophilia on YouTube.

A softcore Peodophile Ring got recently exposed on youtube who were very active under innocent children videos.

More education on this in this German video:

 
I have the imagination that the Jackson Family didn't know anything about MJ Facts.
Someone with big knowlage on this side should educate them on this subject.
 
Just so you know why I came across those law suits when I was looking for articles on this female accuser. I was wondering who she was on another thread. Do not know if anyone figured her out yet she keeps coming up sandwiched with Robson and Safechuck's cases. Here is the link on that accuser :


https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016...-molested-her/

https://patch.com/california/studioc...-sexuall-abuse
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ve-herpes.html
http://dailypost.ng/2016/10/26/woman...y-paid-900000/
https://news.dailytoast.com/blogs/wo...n-30-years-ago
 
Some people on Twitter, are they that gullible or trolling? Unbelievable. I did school her with some very important facts about the two clowns. This is her tweet.




I’ve read all replies to this tweet and tbh i don’t know what to say. MJ’s fans have a very big problem like their idol used to. He was not a God, he was a superstar but also a disturbed human being. I don’t know how people may be so blind and keep saying that those kids are lying after have even watched the documentary... You can see they’re hurt, the pain in their eyes, their families cry and pain ffs. Just because it’s Michael Jackson, what a bunch of hypocrites. People will never stop surprise me in a bad way srsly, it’s disgusting.


I didn't bother on Twitter today at all except for this person just now. You never know, you may find someone who is willing to listen. Nope. After the facts I sent her she replies with a sleeping smiley, as in its boring. I gave key facts about the motives of the two, how James was sued himself, his mother lying in the doc and so on. **** these idiots.
 
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horselightning - she does not keep coming up and I don't think that posting that stuff is good idea. People visit the thread who have malicious intent - do not give them something to run with.
 
I think I'm just gonna stop trying to reason with people on the fence. Been trying it for a few weeks now and so far it has only been goddamned ****ing brainless idiots who piss me the **** off big time. None are willing to listen at all. They say they have heard it all before and if I have more arguments, after I have written about 5 replies with facts and proof.

It's a waste of time. I'm glad the fallout isn't as bad as it could have been, but I think this is where I call it quits with assholes on Twitter.
 
OK. I AM DONE WITH THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Safechuck claims he and Michael had sex every day in a room above the train station.

The train station was built in 1993 and finished in 1994.

Safechuck was abused from 1988 to 1992. Safechuck also claims they had sex every day and alot because it was so new, that also makes more likely the period he is speaking about is right towards the end of the relationship.

I have had enough of this bullshit now, I am at the point where I would like to go and just give Safechuck what he deserves! The guy belongs in jail.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bro this is where he is mentioning &quot;train station&quot; <a href="https://t.co/4aZXdyLvhZ">pic.twitter.com/4aZXdyLvhZ</a></p>&mdash; Aden Branson (@Adenbranson) <a href="https://twitter.com/Adenbranson/status/1110978644430643201?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From Getty:<br><br>August 1993 - 2005 <a href="https://t.co/geGBO4U6bB">pic.twitter.com/geGBO4U6bB</a></p>&mdash; kapowski (@santikapowski) <a href="https://twitter.com/santikapowski/status/1111002219585957888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Lightbringer;4252235 said:
OK. I AM DONE WITH THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Safechuck claims he and Michael had sex every day in a room above the train station.

The train station was built in 1993 and finished in 1994.

Safechuck was abused from 1988 to 1992. Safechuck also claims they had sex every day and alot because it was so new, that also makes more likely the period he is speaking about is right towards the end of the relationship.

I have had enough of this bullshit now, I am at the point where I would like to go and just give Safechuck what he deserves! The guy belongs in jail.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bro this is where he is mentioning &quot;train station&quot; <a href="https://t.co/4aZXdyLvhZ">pic.twitter.com/4aZXdyLvhZ</a></p>&mdash; Aden Branson (@Adenbranson) <a href="https://twitter.com/Adenbranson/status/1110978644430643201?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From Getty:<br><br>August 1993 - 2005 <a href="https://t.co/geGBO4U6bB">pic.twitter.com/geGBO4U6bB</a></p>&mdash; kapowski (@santikapowski) <a href="https://twitter.com/santikapowski/status/1111002219585957888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I feel your anger and frustration. It's just unbelievable. If Michael was still alive today and it was taken to court (although I think Wade would have not done shit, had Mike been alive) it would be once again thrown out. How did this filth get so far with total lies, contradictions and inconsistencies like these?

If only there had been a law against this. A law that if you tell flat out lies in a doc and it can be proven that they are lies that you get a punishment. ****ing unbelievable, all of this. Shocking that none of the three assholes wanted to make sure to get the timelines right. They probably knew they would get away with it.

Please if there's any justice left in this rotten world, let them pay, let them pay HARD. :(
 
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