Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

[Bink]

I want to know who is paying USATODAY to keep printing MJ's stories. Now, they got a story about why our idols need to cancel MJ? I am at work and can not use my facebook for the comment section or to write that dumb writer but I will be as soon as I get home. They want to keep the story going to clearly make $$$$.

Ironic isn't it that the ones who want to mute MJ are the ones who are shouting about him the loudest!!

 

[terrell]

All this stuff is so exhausting. I can't imagine how Michael felt dealing with it most of life day in and day out. I've managed to persuade a couple of friends of mine that Michael is innocent via YouTube videos. One of them who previously said he believed the two guys now completely dismisses it and messaged me saying he was listening to Invincible he's not like a big massive fan like i am but just a casual fan. It's a waste of time arguing with ignorant people, i mostly just try and argue the case with people I know personally, not some randomer on the internet.

Again, it is not everybody. Even now, the main ones who are talking are entertain sites and tabloid so it is not as big as u think or feel. and remember MJ faced this kind of trash in 2005. And I agree about the "randomer" on the internet who are often trolls anyway. Who will want to dismiss facts that will show a person did not abuse someone. That mean the ones who want to believe that trash desired to think someone was harmed. Sick

 

[terrell]

Ironic isn't it that the ones who want to mute MJ are the ones who are shouting about him the loudest!!

Exactly. I know no one is listening to USATODAY but I am still going to blast that article in the comment section just in case some haters come it in.

 

[terrell]

Had my appearance insulted on Twitter twice now, that's what I get for using a real picture I suppose ??

So what! They do not know u. I bet the ones judging u look like slobs.

 

[Thriller_MJ]

Again, it is not everybody. Even now, the main ones who are talking are entertain sites and tabloid so it is not as big as u think or feel. and remember MJ faced this kind of trash in 2005. And I agree about the "randomer" on the internet who are often trolls anyway. Who will want to dismiss facts that will show a person did not abuse someone. That mean the ones who want to believe that trash desired to think someone was harmed. Sick

I had my doubts before, i did watch the program too and it had the total oppisate effect on me. It made me think even more that Michael was innocent and being exploited. It was the lack of emotion that did it for me. I have a degree in criminal psychology and have dealt with plenty of paedophiles, serial killers etc so i'm a fairly logical thinking sort of person. I just didn't buy a word of what they were saying. I think the reason I had my doubts was how loudly the media was shouting about it and the reaction to it after-words. I didn't watch it when it aired i waited till after it was aired and everything calmed down somewhat so i wouldn't get swept up in the hysteria about it all.

 

[Michael Skywalker]

However, how does the fact that Robson first tried to sue under seal fit all this? That fact better fits with Robson wanting a settlement but not a trial, without anything reaching the public (or possible future coleages). Not really with bringing dirt on MJ at the benefit of AEG? Or am I missing something?
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No you are correct. Filing it under seal does not support the AEG theory.the estate said they had no idea about the book deal till later so its possible aswell that AEG didnt. As lawyers circles are tight nit and many people know many others through third connections. Ie a unkept secret

Hi Elusive, thank you for knocking this around a bit with me.

Do you feel the two theories are depletively contradicting eachother, or that they are more like parallell tracks overlapsing eachother in a (suspiciously) benefitting way for AEG? Of course I don't challenge the fact that Robson first tried under seal, I do however kind of feel like it would be a strangely big coincidence, if you know what I mean?
And also, do you know anything about the alleged business contracts between Robson and AEG at the time?

Btw, why wasn't it approved to go under seal? Doesn't it carry the exact kind of qualifications the seal is for, such as: sensetive act (sexual offense, alleged paedophilia and also of a man-boy nature), famous people (ie big press coverage), etc? Is it becuase Robson was the plaintiff and not the defendant?

 

[terrell]

I had my doubts before, i did watch the program too and it had the total oppisate effect on me. It made me think even more that Michael was innocent and being exploited. It was the lack of emotion that did it for me. I have a degree in criminal psychology and have dealt with plenty of paedophiles, serial killers etc so i'm a fairly logical thinking sort of person. I just didn't buy a word of what they were saying. I think the reason I had my doubts was how loudly the media was shouting about it and the reaction to it after-words. I didn't watch it when it aired i waited till after it was aired and everything calmed down somewhat so i wouldn't get swept up in the hysteria about it all.

Another pysychologist and a case worker said the same thing u are saying on the tv here a few weeks ago. the emotion they lacked and body action doubt their story.

 

[Cinnamon234]

Had my appearance insulted on Twitter twice now, that's what I get for using a real picture I suppose ??

Don't pay any attention to those losers. I'm sure you're better looking than them.

Furthermore, they obviously didn't have any strong counter arguments so they had to resort to taking cheap shots. How lame.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

To the people who read this:
I didn't know that Taryll Jackson was molested as child as well besides Taj.
I found this trailer for a interview today from him on the Oprah Winfrey channel where he talked about this

Does someone know where the complate interview is?

I have the imagination that the oprah winfrey channel lost A LOT subscribers in this month!
Does anyone know how many subscribers the channel had last month?

 

[Anna]

To the people who read this:
I didn't know that Taryll Jackson was molested as child as well besides Taj.
I found this trailer for a interview today from him on the Oprah Winfrey channel where he talked about this

Does someone know where the complate interview ia?

I have the imagination that the oprah winfrey channel lost A LOT subscribers in this month!
Does anyone know how many subscribers the channel had last month?

She didn't lose any subscribers. Her numbers have been steady through all this - https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/own/monthly

 

[Thriller_MJ]

Another pysychologist and a case worker said the same thing u are saying on the tv here a few weeks ago. the emotion they lacked and body action doubt their story.

My educated opinion on all this is that Michael was a very vulnerable and naive person who didn't really have a grasp on reality. He lived in "Michael land" i asked before in a separate thread if Michael suffered from PTSD as a result of his childhood, most things suggest he did have it. He even said himself he used to retreat into himself when things got too much and i think he just stayed there sorta like a crab in a shell and will only come out when necessary.

 

[terrell]

She didn't lose any subscribers. Her numbers have been steady through all this - https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/own/monthly

Yeah but her creditability took a hit.s

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

Here is anouther Trailer part of the interview with Taryll:

Good cover by the way from Taryll Jackson of MJs "Much too soon".

I found also this nice
Taryll Jackson Mix from MJs Chicago:

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

You gotta love (not really) how you got some of these folks on Twitter saying Michael himself slept with many boys in bed and that he had said this himself many times. Which is just ridiculous in itself, he never said that. These people just flat out lie.

Then when we confront her on the nonsense she says she's been reading and writing a long time about MJ and basically anyone that goes against her(people using logic) she just ignores or blocks.

 

[terrell]

You gotta love (not really) how you got some of these folks on Twitter saying Michael himself slept with many boys in bed and that he had said this himself many times. Which is just ridiculous in itself, he never said that. These people just flat out lie.

Then when we confront her on the nonsense she says she's been reading and writing a long time about MJ and basically anyone that goes against her(people using logic) she just ignores or blocks.

She is a troll even being paid to it. A show was done on trolling.

 

[Erandi]

My educated opinion on all this is that Michael was a very vulnerable and naive person who didn't really have a grasp on reality. He lived in "Michael land" i asked before in a separate thread if Michael suffered from PTSD as a result of his childhood, most things suggest he did have it. He even said himself he used to retreat into himself when things got too much and i think he just stayed there sorta like a crab in a shell and will only come out when necessary.

Hey, Thriller_MJ, I'm so happy to read that you haven't given up on Michael! Glad you have managed to look at all this with a clear mind. I knew you could!

 

[Thriller_MJ]

Hey, Thriller_MJ, I'm so happy to read that you haven't given up on Michael! Glad you have managed to look at all this with a clear mind. I knew you could!

Thanks. I said to one of my friends that I wish people would just leave him alone.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

A New reaction video to LN from A Sexual abuse survivor who is a therapist who works with sexual abuse victims who sees trough the acting of Wade and James:

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

A New reaction video to LN from A Sexual abuse survivor who is a therapist who works with sexual abuse victims who sees trough the acting of Wade and James:

Coincidentally I watched a analysis vidoe too. Non verbal communication of Robson and Safechuck VS real abuse victims. Incredibly interesting video and at the same time pisses me off so much. I had not seen LN myself but after having now see several parts of Wade and James during LN I see what a disgustingly emotionally manipulative piece of fiction this is and what a piece of shit Reed really is, goddamn it man. Anyway, definitely check this video. If it's posted already I'm sorry.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

Coincidentally I watched a analysis vidoe too. Non verbal communication of Robson and Safechuck VS real abuse victims. Incredibly interesting video and at the same time pisses me off so much. I had not seen LN myself but after having now see several parts of Wade and James during LN I see what a disgustingly emotionally manipulative piece of fiction this is and what a piece of shit Reed really is, goddamn it man. Anyway, definitely check this video. If it's posted already I'm sorry.

Yeah I already shared this yesterday. It is hard to watch.
I hope the uploader continues to make videos about LN.
He did another great one were he showed that the interviews in LN were filmed in multible different takes.

You can find the most great videos to LN here:

https://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/...ng-LN-Videos-to-over-200-000-views-on-YouTube

I try to always update it.

 

[Paris78]

Standing in my kitchen and suddenly on my radio station " I just can't stop loving you" is played.
In the last weeks sometimes you feel like "the roar of the lynch mob is so loud that you are convinced your voice can never be heard."

But we have to be heard and we will ...and for myself i feel that i just can't stop loving him. #MJFam

 

[terrell]

He is simply ego and thinks about his own Legacy after he has the rights of the beatles song back and how he can finally surpass Michael now.
When the estaste still would own the songs I guess he would be quiet now cause they could make the use of the songs very expensive for him as a revange.
But now he is free, without fear that someone would do this to him, his family and legacy one day when he is gone what they do now to MJ with a powerful wordwide airing documantery, cause he is white.

Here is ouer frind again in
I THOUGHT HE WAS GUILTY Part 3:

Paul M need to sit his @$$ down. I am sure there are accusation of something against him. Wasn't he banned in a country? If MJ goes, Paul @$$ need to be gone as well.

 

[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Remember when the cops held that press conference gloating about how their amazing investigation had convinced them Smollett was guilty?<br><br>Remember when Dan Reed said we should all assume Michael Jackson guilty ‘cuz the cops who investigated him (illegally) believed he was guilty? <a href="https://t.co/thtiToPn6a">https://t.co/thtiToPn6a</a></p>&mdash; Charles Thomson (@CEThomson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1110582287664582656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Disbelieving Neverland: Five Reasons You Can’t Trust the New Michael Jackson Film &quot;LeavingNeverland <a href="https://t.co/vkG6CaofaV">https://t.co/vkG6CaofaV</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/NeverlandFacts?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@neverlandfacts</a></p>&mdash; Leaving Neverland Facts (@NeverlandFacts) <a href="https://twitter.com/NeverlandFacts/status/1110594677604925440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">People are more comfortable and trusting with a LIE but will question and frown upon TRUTH..Keep God in it always!</p>&mdash; Chilli (@officialchilli) <a href="https://twitter.com/officialchilli/status/1110540876529520642?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I was the beat to Michael Jackson’s feet for 3 DECADES…I will CONTINUE to make him dance in the afterlife, I will breathe life into him with my drums, and I’ll PROUDLY carry on his legacy… &#128153; <a href="https://t.co/LWR3GXwIkl">pic.twitter.com/LWR3GXwIkl</a></p>&mdash; Jonathan “Sugarfoot” Moffett (@jmoffettmjm) <a href="https://twitter.com/jmoffettmjm/status/1109955018176647168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">POLISH MOONWALKERS&#10084; We listened to his music,giving leaflest to ppl(they were into them) and also went to His amphitheatre to leave him candles and white roses as a symbol of innocence. We love you Michael &#10084; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJinnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJinnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/wingheart?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@wingheart</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/KeyaMorgan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KeyaMorgan</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/FallAgainMJ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FallAgainMJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/2s2g0m3HJq">pic.twitter.com/2s2g0m3HJq</a></p>&mdash; Joanna (@Joanna24129440) <a href="https://twitter.com/Joanna24129440/status/1110273378848571394?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">how I’m feeling today <a href="https://t.co/3Pm1Uzm06g">pic.twitter.com/3Pm1Uzm06g</a></p>&mdash; mr.formless (@voicesofthegods) <a href="https://twitter.com/voicesofthegods/status/1109874520452550656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey everyone Macy’s website just put up more NEW MJ shirts!! &#10084;&#65039;&#10084;&#65039;&#10084;&#65039; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> Show Macy’s some love!!! &#10084;&#65039; I bought a new MJ shirt in store a few days ago too <a href="https://t.co/Y2Ks4gdA37">https://t.co/Y2Ks4gdA37</a></p>&mdash; Christine Griggs (@xtineluvsmj) <a href="https://twitter.com/xtineluvsmj/status/1110335663411511296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“There’s no other love like the love for a brother, and there’s no other love like the love from a brother.” &#128173;<br><br>Mention your brother&#128588; <a href="https://t.co/LKnwvFBhOM">pic.twitter.com/LKnwvFBhOM</a></p>&mdash; Jackie Jackson (@JackieJackson5) <a href="https://twitter.com/JackieJackson5/status/1110567229911781377?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="pt" dir="ltr">&#127482;&#127480; My soul is not for sale!<br>&#127466;&#127480; ¡Mi alma no está en venta!<br>&#127465;&#127466; Meine Seele steht nicht zum Verkauf.<br>&#127470;&#127481; La mia anima non è in vendita.<br>&#127463;&#127479; Minha alma não está à venda.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/JXu0tXMN4W">pic.twitter.com/JXu0tXMN4W</a></p>&mdash; LaVelle Smith Jr. (@lavellesmithjr_) <a href="https://twitter.com/lavellesmithjr_/status/1110356816721047553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MJ shirts for sale at <a href="https://twitter.com/Walmart?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Walmart</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://t.co/zDgnZO4qO7">pic.twitter.com/zDgnZO4qO7</a></p>&mdash; Phil Matson (@matsonphill) <a href="https://twitter.com/matsonphill/status/1110538521406853123?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">26. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Anna]

The body language analysis videos of Michael by cjbaxxter on YouTube are good. It's a shame they don't have more views. I learned a bit about this on a course and he just confirms everything I learned and more. You can't control microexpressions and subconscious body language. I've never seen indicators of deception in Michael regarding the allegations, letting children sleep in his bedroom, or how he views children. He was open and showed honesty. You can see when he talks about it that the concept of it being anything other than totally innocent didn't even register for him. He never stood a chance in this society being that naive and also the most famous person on the planet.

 

[ksat9]

Well guys it's been about 3.5 weeks since this horrible documentary aired. I notice the past 100+ pages have just been nattering, analyzing celebrity and Twitter quotes, bashing Dan Reed, etc. Which tells me the storm is over.... While many in the media have claimed MJ has been muted and his career shaken, etc, I simply disagree. As discussed at length by Rolling Stone last week, the reality is that this documentary COULD have been much worse. The extreme negative reaction has been mostly limited to the precious snowflake METOO sub culture, as well as the media elite at the top. So here are where things stand now

THE BAD:

-Michael Jackson's music has been dropped from only a handful of radio stations around the world. The media has spun this to be a very bad thing, but in reality 99.99999% of stations did NOT ban MJ.

-Airplay is down about 30-50% in the US, which isn't surprising. Companies are scared to blast MJ during such heightened times with the MeToo culture. My guess is that airplay will slowly creep back up in the coming weeks and months.

-SOME companies have dropped being associated with MJ like Starbucks, H&M, The Simpsons, a few random record stores, that museum in Indianapolis, the bus campaign in London, etc. All small potatoes though in the reality of things.

-A few celebrities have sided with the victims, 99% have simply remained silent though with not much to say in either direction


And that's about it really. If you read the media, you will be led to believe this is detrimental and horrible. The truth is.... it's small potatoes.

THE GOOD:

-While radio play has dropped, actual SALES of Michael Jackson albums, as well as online streaming has actually increased in almost every market around the world since this documentary has launched.

-Michael Jackson's official Youtube channel has gained almost 1 million followers since the beginning of March, and his official videos have had an astounding 170 MILLION additional views since March 1st.

-While the media likes to dwell on the small irrelevant boycots/muting of MJ, they are missing the big picture here. MJ's Cirque Du Soleil show remains in operation and is selling very well. The Broadway musical remains in production to debut in 2020, all of MJ's licensing deals remain in tact ranging from clothing to casino slot machines, to many other deals.

-Sony Music is sticking by Michael Jackson, which means that they are confident there is a future for his music. R Kelly was tossed by his label, but not Michael! This is probably the most important piece of information that would show what direction Michael Jackson's reputation is going in.

-The general public are not nearly as sold on this documentary as the media elites. Based on the media's reviews of Leaving Neverland I was seriously concerned that Michael's legacy could have been shattered. The response was so dramatic and damming that I will admit... I was concerned. But the public simply isn't buying into it. Most polls show the masses favouring Michael Jackson and questioning both accusers.

- Ratings for Leaving Neverland were pretty crappy. Whether it was in the US, UK, France, Italy, Germany, or Canada.... the numbers simply didn't measure up to the hype.


MOVING FORWARD

-My personal opinion is that this will continue to die down, and the general public will slowly forget. In todays hyperactive news cycle, the public often has a short attention span. Most of the bans on his music will be lifted, and radio will slowly increase spins of MJ's songs.

-Hopefully the court cases against HBO and Wade/James will be successful and help solidify our truth that Michael was indeed innocent. A few legal victories would certainly help the narrative and put the wind back in our sails.

-Michael Jackson will again get big amounts of press in June due to the 10 year anniversary of his death. Unfortunately that will give the media another platform to drill into the publics mind about Leaving Neverland, but it will also promote his music and legacy as well. Based on the fallout from this doc, I am guessing MJ's sales will rise again in June as the masses stream and buy the music.

-Overall lets move forward thinking optimistically. These past two months have been horrible for us fans BUT Im telling you..... things could have been worse. MJ survived this, battered and bruised yes.... but he will heal. Keep streaming his music and voicing support to companies that embrace him. I personally have been listening to the HISTORY album lots these past few weeks. I bought it on vinyl.

This whole fiasco simply proved that Michael Jackson is too big to take down.

It could’ve been way worse and honestly I thought it would be worse.
The only people that seem to be dragging it on are the journalists or certain celebrities.
It’s not as big as the media would like for you to think and most people are not buying it.
Despite what the media says, Michael is probably the most beloved artist around the world and there are people, who while they may not agree with certain aspects of his life, refuse to believe these stories and will literally search to make sure that he’s innocent.
If the media weren’t so hateful and evil towards him I guarantee you they would make a killing praising Michael.

 

[jimbean]

is Katherine Jackson instagram real? they seem to be suggesting sending money via PayPal for a documentary 🤔
https://www.instagram.com/ms.katherinejackson/

 

[ozemouze]

You gotta love (not really) how you got some of these folks on Twitter saying Michael himself slept with many boys in bed and that he had said this himself many times. Which is just ridiculous in itself, he never said that. These people just flat out lie.

Then when we confront her on the nonsense she says she's been reading and writing a long time about MJ and basically anyone that goes against her(people using logic) she just ignores or blocks.

If you just follow these debates "from the outside" these anti-MJ people "answering" by ignoring (and sometimes simply not understanding) facts, blocking others and even resorting to name calling look quite ignorant and irrational, and clearly losing the argument, while pro-MJ people are usually armed with facts and argue logically (sure there are some of them behaving childishly too, but much less often). It's actually strange these people don't realize how it could look from a neutral point of view.

Speaking of Paul McCartney, I think he's always been a fair weather friend (more like acquaintance) anyway.

 

[jimbean]

LaToya explains why she accused her brother in the early 90´s
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[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Yeah I already shared this yesterday. It is hard to watch.
I hope the uploader continues to make videos about LN.
He did another great one were he showed that the interviews in LN were filmed in multible different takes.

You can find the most great videos to LN here:

https://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/...ng-LN-Videos-to-over-200-000-views-on-YouTube

I try to always update it.

Ah my bad. I'm switching between Twitter and this and it's easy to miss things. Thanks a lot for that link with all the videos. It's actually something I was looking for!