Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

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THIS!
After MJ passed away I never would have thought we'd still be seeing this kind of shit ten years later
i thought for sure the rumors and all the bullish wouldve stopped but no here we are like it was 2003-2005 expect we are the ones fighting for justice thank god michael isnt here to see this
 
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Oh, and f*** the Sun. They are one of the worst tabloids in the UK.

Totally agree. They're despicable by far the worse. They should have been shut down by our government after the Hillsborough scandal.

(coming from a die hard Liverpool fan of nearly 20 years) I won't believe a word they say when it comes to anything especially when it concerns Michael
 
SmoothCriminal1995;4237591 said:
Totally agree. They're despicable by far the worse. They should have been shut down by our government after the Hillsborough scandal.

(coming from a die hard Liverpool fan of nearly 20 years) I won't believe a word they say when it comes to anything especially when it concerns Michael

I’m in the same boat as you, where I come from people don’t buy the The Sun and a lot of shops refuse to sell it.
 
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Totally agree. They're despicable by far the worse. They should have been shut down by our government after the Hillsborough scandal.

(coming from a die hard Liverpool fan of nearly 20 years) I won't believe a word they say when it comes to anything especially when it concerns Michael

Liverpool fan here too and completely agree.

i also think most decent people take whatever story is printed in a tabloid with a pinch of salt anyway.
 
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So is it true that the sales for the tickets haven't been exactly great? Hope so because that would be great news. No soul should watch that filth.

It's quite telling that a doc like this can be made and one that Corey Feldman wants to make..well, you don't hear a soul about it.
 
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Anyone noticed press trying to push stories now more often with Safechuck/Robson claims?

There is a huge conspiracy here - why no publicity going to Weinstein's documentary at the SAME festival???
 
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Anyone noticed press trying to push stories now more often with Safechuck/Robson claims?

There is a huge conspiracy here - why no publicity going to Weinstein's documentary at the SAME festival???

To be honest, if I wasnt on messageboards Id have heard nothing about any of this. First time ever Ive had to fish for tabloid news.
 
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To be honest, if I wasnt on messageboards Id have heard nothing about any of this. First time ever Ive had to fish for tabloid news.

It was all over the Mirror and Sun for past few days, unsure about others but I'm sure they've said about it.
 
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It was all over the Mirror and Sun for past few days, unsure about others but I'm sure they've said about it.

Exactly, id have no reason to ever be aware of whats in those rags. Id expect it to be there.
 
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Exactly, id have no reason to ever be aware of whats in those rags. Id expect it to be there.

They are the biggest publications in the UK though, and have a wide audience. The content shouldn't be ignored, most comments defended MJ though which is great to see.
 
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They are the biggest publications in the UK though, and have a wide audience. The content shouldn't be ignored, most comments defended MJ though which is great to see.

My original point was I would not have heard anything or seen anything. Nothing else.
 
innuendo141;4237696 said:
To be honest, if I wasnt on messageboards Id have heard nothing about any of this. First time ever Ive had to fish for tabloid news.

Agree. Although I’m not a reader of either the Sun or the Mirror, I’ve not seen anything much about this doc in any of the mainstream media SO FAR. Of course that could all change once this is shown on tv.
 
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Canadian media has barely even reported on this. Nothing like the garbage UK tabloids. I would say 99% of Canadians have no idea this is happening. That will likely change though once it premiers at the festival and more press picks it up.
 
dmehta;4237705 said:
Agree. Although I’m not a reader of either the Sun or the Mirror, I’ve not seen anything much about this doc in any of the mainstream media SO FAR. Of course that could all change once this is shown on tv.

Just because you aren't reading the tabloids doesn't mean most of the UK population isn't, they are. And they have indeed been reporting on this, with mostly negative connotations.
 
SmoothGangsta;4237708 said:
Just because you aren't reading the tabloids doesn't mean most of the UK population isn't, they are. And they have indeed been reporting on this, with mostly negative connotations.

Yes but what’s new there? Tabloids always publish this sort of crap. They wouldo also have reported more than the mainstream media when these allegations first came out in 2013, yet to date, the Wade allegations are actually little known by the general public.

However I do think that once this is shown on HBO/Channel 4 it will get more mainstream media attention.
 
dmehta;4237711 said:
Yes but what’s new there? Tabloids always publish this sort of crap. They wouldo also have reported more than the mainstream media when these allegations first came out in 2013, yet to date, the Wade allegations are actually little known by the general public.

However I do think that once this is shown on HBO/Channel 4 it will get more mainstream media attention.
I do not know about the UK but in America, I doubt it is going to blow up (we will see). When these claims were made by Wade to Matt Lauder, it was talked but most people including in the media did it with "whatever liar" way or did not talk about (we know tabloids are going to do it but they are trash and that is expected). When the civil was going on even when James came out with his lie, hardly no one talked about it. When it was dismissed, most of the media talked about it and did it in a way as to say "we know this nut is lying". I loved the way my local news did it. She looked like she wanted to roll her eyes at Wade and the story with her mouth twisted as to say "yeah right". Now, this doc with the SAME guys? I doubt it but we will see. As for the UK, them seem to have an obsession with MJ to try to make money far more than anyone.
 
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Tabloids are preaching to the converted so it makes no difference.
 
terrell;4237713 said:
I do not know about the UK but in America, I doubt it is going to blow up (we will see). When these claims were made by Wade to Matt Lauder, it was talked but most people including in the media did it with "whatever liar" way or did not talk about (we know tabloids are going to do it but they are trash and that is expected). When the civil was going on even when James came out with his lie, hardly no one talked about it. When it was dismissed, most of the media talked about it and did it in a way as to say "we know this nut is lying". I loved the way my local news did it. She looked like she wanted to roll her eyes at Wade and the story with her mouth twisted as to say "yeah right". Now, this doc with the SAME guys? I doubt it but we will see. As for the UK, them seem to have an obsession with MJ to try to make money far more than anyone.

I agree. It didn’t get much publicity in the UK either. No one really talked about it.

The difference with this though is that it will be shown on prime time TV, so will inevitably get more attention. I mean, this film is 4 hours. 4 hours!! What are they going to discuss in that time?!
 
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Ppl will turn over within an hour. Way to long for anyone to care enough to sit through it all.heck a 4 hr love fest might have some of us bored within 2 hrs ? Part of its downfall.
 
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Wade doing a q&a? Hand US the mic lol!!
 
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He's so traumatised by his abuse that he wants to be asked questions about it by a group of strangers, I see.
 
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Excuse me, a Q&A? Look if it had been a doc about his music, from people that worked with him then yes, I understand a Q&A. This shit is unbelievable.

Speechless...... these people truly are human waste. Throw them in the goddamn garbage!
 
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Ok guys, let them be asked and ask them about the so far known exposed lies he has made and let them be confronted like during the cross examination
 
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So is it true that the sales for the tickets haven't been exactly great? Hope so because that would be great news. No soul should watch that filth.

It's quite telling that a doc like this can be made and one that Corey Feldman wants to make..well, you don't hear a soul about it.

The reason why you dont hear a word bout corey feldman is documentary is course he aint accusing mj and the media just want ''mj dirt''. As long as there is someone accusing mj thats all they care bout and will ignore the others
 
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The other aspect to this film, is that it will be used by Finaldi and co as a 4-hour advertisement for their law practice. They are surely hoping that more complainants will come forward, if not related to MJ, then certainly in relation to other cases. I'm sure that the 'Q and A' is also a publicity stunt, and that (if R and S appear) the questions will have been carefully staged, and the answers carefully rehearsed for 'press quotability'. I hope that MJ fans don't turn up and 'throw rotten tomatoes' or whatever, as this would just give the press more to write about, and will add more fuel to the publicity fire.

Actually, I think that R and S's claims regarding MJ are so completely outlandish, that they are more likely to prevent other people from coming forward (in relation to other cases). If you think that grounds for a legal complaint are ' 7 years of rape' or 'a wedding ceremony' then one incident of inappropriate photography or touching might hardly (to a young and genuine victim) seem worth mentioning!

I've seen that some news outlets are saying that R and S have not been paid for their appearance in this film. However, I'm sure they are likely to have received plenty of free legal services from Finaldi and Co. I also wouldn't be surprised if their family members (mothers and sibs) who are also said to be appearing in the film , might have been paid.

As regards the UK tabloid coverage, I was amused to see that one of the main offenders, which always picks up adverse MJ stories, is the Daily Mail (Daily Fail as it is more commonly known). The Daily Mail is currently complaining about a new app ('News Guard') which 'labels' online news outlets according to their reliability. The Daily Mail online has apparently been labelled by this app. as 'Fails to maintain basic standards of accuracy and accountability'. LOL.
 
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Yeah just saw that about the daily fail. ? classic.not a truer word said
 
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So wade is doing a q&a bout what excatly......god hes dumb
 
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