Conrad Murray News and discussion thread [No Links allowed]

[Victory22]

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The media is testing the waters to see what kind of ratings Murray get's. If he does well America and others will book this low-life rat as well.

 

[GreenEyes]

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The ladies from The Talk feel Murray needs to STFU! Sharon Osborne is great!

 

[Ramona122003]

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The ladies from The Talk feel Murray needs to STFU! Sharon Osborne is great!

Thanks for this. I do not care for Sharon Osborne all that much and she has been one of Michael's biggest critics, but even she feels no sympathy or care towards Murray. I think she sympathize with Michael and his family because her husband is a hardcore addict and if a doctor did to him what Murray did to Michael, she would had killed him. No, I mean literally kill him. When it comes to her husband and her family, that girl does not play. I always respected that about her even if she is not my favorite person in the world.

She also would not allow anyone in the media to dare to say that her husband caused his own death by hiring a doctor. She would make sure the world knew that doctor is solely to blame and her husband's addiction should not be used as a pass. Something I wish Michael's own family would take to heart instead of following the dollar signs.

As for the rest of the panel, I glad they all agree that Murray should shut up for the sake of Michael's family. I do not agree that Murray is talking because he feels guilty. Murray made it a big point that he did nothing wrong and it is all Michael's fault that he died. The only thing Murray will be haunted by is the lost of 5 million dollars.

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

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"He could give all his organs up!" That made :lmao:, Sharon was so right. Why the f*ck the media is rewarding a murderer? Another reason why it proves karma is a huge bullshit!

 

[Bubs]

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The media is testing the waters to see what kind of ratings Murray get's. If he does well America and others will book this low-life rat as well.

Thats what I was thinking and he has to make this interview so attractive to media that he get more interviews. I wouldn't count on that it will be sympathetic to Michael, as that is not what media whats to hear. They want dirt and with right amount of money CM will deliver it, true or not, doesn't matter.

 

[Victory22]

You’re right Conrad Murray is a mercenary who has no moral conflict at all about living off blood money.

 

[Miche]

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Oh boy they are really pushing this on the adds here This is the latest clip, at least she gives him a bit of a roast in it!

NB It says at the top " No,media links allowed"

Im confused as there is a video for The Talk here so Im not sure if this video is allowed or not?

 

[bobmoo79]

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It says this video is not available in your country

 

[8701girl]

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Thanks for this. I do not care for Sharon Osborne all that much and she has been one of Michael's biggest critics, but even she feels no sympathy or care towards Murray. I think she sympathize with Michael and his family because her husband is a hardcore addict and if a doctor did to him what Murray did to Michael, she would had killed him. No, I mean literally kill him. When it comes to her husband and her family, that girl does not play. I always respected that about her even if she is not my favorite person in the world.

She also would not allow anyone in the media to dare to say that her husband caused his own death by hiring a doctor. She would make sure the world knew that doctor is solely to blame and her husband's addiction should not be used as a pass. Something I wish Michael's own family would take to heart instead of following the dollar signs.

As for the rest of the panel, I glad they all agree that Murray should shut up for the sake of Michael's family. I do not agree that Murray is talking because he feels guilty. Murray made it a big point that he did nothing wrong and it is all Michael's fault that he died. The only thing Murray will be haunted by is the lost of 5 million dollars.

Yes i never been a big fan of sharon osbourne but i do like that how she doesnt take crap from anyone
and even im not a fan of her husband it is sad to see that he has struggled with his addiction

 

[8701girl]

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The media is testing the waters to see what kind of ratings Murray get's. If he does well America and others will book this low-life rat as well.

Thing is ( this is no offense to any amercian mj fans here) but most of the general amercian public hate michael so much that they truly do take murray's side will watch it and getb his book anyway

 

[GreenEyes]

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Thing is ( this is no offense to any amercian mj fans here) but most of the general amercian public hate michael so much that they truly do take murray's side will watch it and getb his book anyway

I don't think the majority of Americans hate him. Yes, there are some who do, but he wouldn't be celebrated here so much, nor his music so popular and played on the radio all the time, and have his own show daily in Las Vegas, if he were hated.

The loud mouth haters in the bunch do not represent the majority.

 

[8701girl]

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Has the media ever given John Lennon's killer a platform?

^ they actually have interviewed him etc. so yeah! Not to mention documentaries, and movie about him..

They did?

 

[8701girl]

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I don't think the majority of Americans hate him. Yes, there are some who do, but he wouldn't be celebrated here so much, nor his music so popular and played on the radio all the time, and have his own show daily in Las Vegas, if he were hated.

The loud mouth haters in the bunch do not represent the majority.

True but there alot of mj haters out there who generally belive mj is a pedo and will take murray's side just cuz of that

 

[GreenEyes]

Denzel Washington refuses to star in killer doctor Conrad Murray's Michael Jackson film project
Nov 22, 2013

The disgraced cardiologist wanted the double Oscar winner to play him but has been met with an instant refusal

No way: Denzel Washington wasnt nothing to do with Conrad Murray's movie project No way: Denzel Washington wasnt nothing to do with Conrad Murray's movie project

REUTERS

Denzel Washington has refused to star in a movie made by killer doctor Conrad Murray about Michael Jackson.

Murray, 60, who injected the star with a fatal dose of anaesthetic Propofol, has been touting around a screenplay about his disastrous relationship with the King of Pop.

And the disgraced cardiologist , released three weeks ago, wanted double Oscar-winner Denzel, 58, to play him.

But a Hollywood source said: “ Denzel is not interested.

"He was friends with Michael and was deeply saddened by what happened.

"The thought of helping the man who killed him is preposterous.”

He added: “Murray is deluded if he thinks any Hollywood A-lister will be interested in working with him.

"He is presenting his tale as if he is the victim.”

 

[qbee]

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Thing is ( this is no offense to any amercian mj fans here) but most of the general amercian public hate michael so much that they truly do take murray's side will watch it and getb his book anyway

True but there alot of mj haters out there who generally belive mj is a pedo and will take murray's side just cuz of that

What gave you the impression that the American public hates Michael ? (The tabloids, the media ) I don't believe that's true at all. I believe the majority of the people love Michael. Its certain media that portrays him negatively but the media does NOT speak for the people. And the majority of the media do not portray Murray in a good light. In fact I don't a lot of negative about MJ in the media except for UK publications like the Mirror Sun ect.But they dont speak for the people either. Some media portrayed MJ as a washed up freak and no one cared for him in 2009 - The TII concert sales proved that that was all BS. The sold out MJONE and Immortal shows prove that is false. The world at large loves Michael Jackson IMO (of course their are haters and their will always be haters but they can not stop the Immortal legacy of the KOP) It's impossible IMO any more than haters and unbelievers in Jesus could stop his message even after 2000 yrs. " Love survives"

 

[GreenEyes]

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Has the media ever given John Lennon's killer a platform?

Absolutely, I've seen several biography shows, interviews and two theatrically released movies were made.

Chapter 27 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapter_27

and

The Killing of John Lennon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killing_of_John_Lennon

 

[GreenEyes]

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What gave you the impression that the American public hates Michael ? (The tabloids, the media ) I don't believe that's true at all. I believe the majority of the people love Michael. Its certain media that portrays him negatively but the media does NOT speak for the people. And the majority of the media do not portray Murray in a good light. In fact I don't see a lot of negative about MJ in the media except for UK publications like the Mirror Sun ect _ .But they don't speak for the people either. Some media portrayed MJ as a washed up freak and no one cared for him in 2009 - The TII concert sales proved that that was all BS. The sold out MJONE and Immortal shows prove that is false. The world at large loves Michael Jackson IMO (of course their are haters and their will always be haters but they can not stop the Immortal legacy of the KOP) It's impossible IMO any more than haters and unbelievers in Jesus could stop his message even after 2000 yrs. " Love survives"

I totally agree qbee. This is what would happen in America if Michael even appeared going down any street here (and this was right before he died). That's Love!!

 

[Ashtanga]

Denzel Washington refuses to star in killer doctor Conrad Murray's Michael Jackson film project
Nov 22, 2013

The disgraced cardiologist wanted the double Oscar winner to play him but has been met with an instant refusal

No way: Denzel Washington wasnt nothing to do with Conrad Murray's movie project No way: Denzel Washington wasnt nothing to do with Conrad Murray's movie project

REUTERS

Denzel Washington has refused to star in a movie made by killer doctor Conrad Murray about Michael Jackson.

Murray, 60, who injected the star with a fatal dose of anaesthetic Propofol, has been touting around a screenplay about his disastrous relationship with the King of Pop.

And the disgraced cardiologist , released three weeks ago, wanted double Oscar-winner Denzel, 58, to play him.

But a Hollywood source said: “ Denzel is not interested.

"He was friends with Michael and was deeply saddened by what happened.

"The thought of helping the man who killed him is preposterous.”

He added: “Murray is deluded if he thinks any Hollywood A-lister will be interested in working with him.

"He is presenting his tale as if he is the victim.”

Thanks Denzel!

 

[marebear]

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I feel sick to my stomach.

 

[Victory22]

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I totally agree qbee. This is what would happen in America if Michael even appeared going down any street here (and this was right before he died). That's Love!!

Yep! MJ is very much loved in the USA. It's just that a few haters are very loud and crazy and they get most of the attention.

 

[qbee]

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King MJ ? @HumanNature227
While thousands of people hate Michael Jackson for the rumors, millions of people love and respect for his talent and for who he REALLY is
Retweeted by MJJCommunity



A new tweet to confirm

 

[CaptainEoLove85]

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True but there alot of mj haters out there who generally belive mj is a pedo and will take murray's side just cuz of that

My grandmother, who's a non-fan, said and I quote, that Murray should "boil in oil". Murray is not well liked by the general public here. He is a disgrace to all doctors. As for haters, once a hater of Michael, always a hater IMO. And they really don't matter.

 

[Ramona122003]

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What gave you the impression that the American public hates Michael ? (The tabloids, the media ) I don't believe that's true at all. I believe the majority of the people love Michael. Its certain media that portrays him negatively but the media does NOT speak for the people. And the majority of the media do not portray Murray in a good light. In fact I don't a lot of negative about MJ in the media except for UK publications like the Mirror Sun ect.But they dont speak for the people either. Some media portrayed MJ as a washed up freak and no one cared for him in 2009 - The TII concert sales proved that that was all BS. The sold out MJONE and Immortal shows prove that is false. The world at large loves Michael Jackson IMO (of course their are haters and their will always be haters but they can not stop the Immortal legacy of the KOP) It's impossible IMO any more than haters and unbelievers in Jesus could stop his message even after 2000 yrs. " Love survives"

Just wanted to add to this wonderful post.

It is true that most people in the general public have some misinformation about him. Like him wanting to be white, less so since he died, having white kids, also less now, and being weird, but in general the vast public supported him. Even during the trial, I saw more overall support for Michael then people believing that he did anything. For most, 'Michael Jackson molesting a child, please that boy couldn't harm anyone'. Yes, I heard people say that.

Most people in the public see Michael as a man-child who has been stunted by his abused. Although this is not completely true, I take that over child molester any day.

Also, even the people who 'hate' him are drawn to him. They try to say they don't care and he did these horrible things, but that doesn't stop them from playing his music. Nancy Grace, who believed Michael screw children, couldn't help admire Michael when they were showing clips of This Is It. I bet a lot of those haters were the first to buy tickets.

As for Murray, I can tell you that he gets no love. Even the people on the news that 'support' him do not really pity him. I think the fact that he is so unsympathetic about killing his patient makes him hated. If Murray had shown even a little bit of pity towards Michael like saying, 'I'm sorry this happened. I just wanted to help. I did not mean to put Michael in a position where he could kill himself', he would have come out better to the general public. His absolute refusal to take any blame and even mock the person he killed and dare to still call him friend and is disgusting whether you liked Michael or not.

I can't see anyone caring about Murray except for a select group and the vast majority just want him to disappear.

 

[marebear]

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Are they really haters if the listen to Michael's music or watch his work? I wonder about that. I know when I don't like someone I don't listen to their work or anything about them.

Maybe it's just me but whenever I see I picture of Murray or hear his voice or see his name I just get shivers. I feel sick. I don't want to see or hear from him ever.

 

[Ramona122003]

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Are they really haters if the listen to Michael's music or watch his work? I wonder about that. I know when I don't like someone I don't listen to their work or anything about them.

Maybe it's just me but whenever I see I picture of Murray or hear his voice or see his name I just get shivers. I feel sick. I don't want to see or hear from him ever.

I believe it is possible to separate a person from his work, especially if you have no real investment to the person. For example, Steve Jobs was arguably a horrible person who self confess to lying and stealing, yet people still buys and loves his products and hails him as a genius. Most people will agree that Kanya West is a egoistic jackass, but people still buys his music. Same with Chris Brown and legal issues. Michelangelo is actually known as insufficient genius who was pretty much the Kanya of his day, yet we still praise and hail him.

So, it is possible. It depends on the person.

 

[Ramona122003]

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double post

 

[analogue]

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I believe it is possible to separate a person from his work, especially if you have no real investment to the person. For example, Steve Jobs was arguably a horrible person who self confess to lying and stealing, yet people still buys and loves his products and hails him as a genius. Most people will agree that Kanya West is a egoistic jackass, but people still buys his music. Same with Chris Brown and legal issues. Michelangelo is actually known as insufficient genius who was pretty much the Kanya of his day, yet we still praise and hail him.

So, it is possible. It depends on the person.

If Michael was guilty of child molestation (We all know he's innocent btw) then i would have been done with him and his music a long time ago. The people who think MJ is guilty but still listen to his music are people i'll never understand

 

[marebear]

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I believe it is possible to separate a person from his work, especially if you have no real investment to the person. For example, Steve Jobs was arguably a horrible person who self confess to lying and stealing, yet people still buys and loves his products and hails him as a genius. Most people will agree that Kanya West is a egoistic jackass, but people still buys his music. Same with Chris Brown and legal issues. Michelangelo is actually known as insufficient genius who was pretty much the Kanya of his day, yet we still praise and hail him.

So, it is possible. It depends on the person.

For me, I can't be like that. If I think you are not a very good person than it doesn't matter how talented you are etc. I keep away. That's just me so I don't get how others can do it. They can but I wish they wouldn't think badly of Michael as a person.

 

[ivy]

'I did not kill the King of Pop': The doctor jailed over his death proclaims his innocence in exclusive interview, saying 'Michael Jackson killed Michael Jackson'

Dr Conrad Murray was convicted of killing Michael Jackson
Proclaiming his innocence, he claims Jackson overdosed on his own stash
Reveals 'truth' about the King of Pop's last months in exclusive interview

By MAIL ON SUNDAY REPORTER

The doctor convicted of killing Michael Jackson has spoken out for the first time to try to clear his name - and claims the superstar died of an accidental overdose.

Dr Conrad Murray told The Mail on Sunday: ‘I did not kill Michael Jackson. He was a drug addict. Michael Jackson accidentally killed Michael Jackson.’

The 60-year-old heart surgeon - released from prison three weeks ago, having served half of his four-year sentence for involuntary manslaughter – began working for Jackson in 2006.

'I am innocent': Dr Conrad Murray, seen arriving to his trial in 2011, claims he had nothing to do with Michael Jackson's death, despite being convicted

But it was not until he went to help him prepare for his This Is It come-back tour in 2009 that he saw the devastation of his life.

‘He was in crisis at the end of his life, filled with panic and misery,’ he said.

‘By the end Michael Jackson was a broken man. I tried to protect him but instead I was brought down with him.’

Murray claims Jackson had been dragged ‘into the abyss’ of physical and mental anguish by the pressures of the tour.
King of Pop: Michael Jackson, pictured in March 2009, died in June the same year of acute propofol and benzodiazepine intoxication following a cardiac arrest in his home Neverland

King of Pop: Michael Jackson, pictured in March 2009, died in June the same year of acute propofol and benzodiazepine intoxication following a cardiac arrest in his home Neverland

He claims he lived in a state of paranoia and filth: maids were not even allowed to take his underwear to be laundered because he feared they would sell it.

Murray insists he was one of the few people the superstar trusted. ‘You want to know how close we were? I held his penis every night to fit a catheter because he was incontinent at night.’

The doctor said Jackson’ 5’11” frame had wasted to little over nine stone, he was suffering from chills, insomnia and mood swings and he was dependent on the prescription drug propofol to help him sleep.

Murray claims he had ‘weaned’ Jackson off the drug the singer called ‘milk’ only days before his death on June 25, 2009.

He believes his insomnia that night was due to withdrawal symptoms from another drug, Demerol, an analgesic better known as pethidine, which had been provided by another doctor without his knowledge.

In a claim, made for the first time, Murray insists that while he was out of the room Jackson got up and injected himself with a lethal dose of propofol after Murray had refused to give him the amount he wanted.

The heart surgeon claims he did everything he could to save Jackson. Whether or not you believe him, he has clearly convinced himself.
He says the singer had told him shortly before his death that their names would become ‘inseparable.’ When Murray asked him what he meant ‘he smiled and said: ‘I am clairvoyant.’

Murray has filed an appeal against his conviction.

 

[Shanti58]

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By the looks of this promo he is not being allowed to make excuses for killing Michael. I'm hoping that Murray will be shown for the coward he is and that they will treat Michael with respect. The most important thing about this interview is that Murray is asked if Michael was a child molester. It would have all been worth giving this scum the time of day on this program if his answer leaves no room for speculation (that is - if his answer is NO and the public is left in no doubt). This is so important when it comes to Australian TV for another reason - Wade Robson is Australian and he has already been interviewed on one of these programs. Fingers crossed everyone.

Oh boy they are really pushing this on the adds here This is the latest clip, at least she gives him a bit of a roast in it!

NB It says at the top " No,media links allowed"

Im confused as there is a video for The Talk here so Im not sure if this video is allowed or not?