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Re: Any Believers in Jesus Christ Here?

Sure, I believe a person by the name of Jesus Christ existed. Roman records prove it. However, As far as me believing the Bible, I don't because it contradicts itself, and some of it isn't pertinent to our current era. I thinks some of the stories in there are wonderful, though, and teaches many lessons a person could live by.

As far as me beliving on God? I don't know. My perspective changed after MJ's death. He was a good man. He was genuine. And what has happend to him just isn't fair.

Aww iboz. Hugs to you. Thats right, I agree with you. Michael suffered at the hands of men though, ie Chandler, Bashir, Arvizo family.. media..... Michael knew so much pain BUT he was a strong man.......you be strong too for him plz if you can..........He rests now.......... hard for us...........but ok for him finally now :( and :)
 
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It's in God's plan. We all are born, live and die. It happens to all of us, and no, it's not fair, but it happens to all of us.

My grandparents dying was not fair, but I am not gonna be angry at God because they died. It was their time. My grandmother was only 64 when she died in 1988, and that was not old.
 
Re: Any Believers in Jesus Christ Here?

Sure, I believe a person by the name of Jesus Christ existed. Roman records prove it. However, As far as me believing the Bible, I don't because it contradicts itself, and some of it isn't pertinent to our current era. I thinks some of the stories in there are wonderful, though, and teaches many lessons a person could live by.

As far as me beliving on God? I don't know. My perspective changed after MJ's death. He was a good man. He was genuine. And what has happend to him just isn't fair.

We all die, hun. MJ was not immune to that, as none of us are.

It is not fair, I agree, but we all die.
 
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Doing good. I was trying to cook on this geogre forman grill I have and it closed on my thumb. I was blessed it wasn't on. So besides the fact it's a little sore I'm fine. :) It's been raining here. How's everyone else?

I have one of those. I love mine.
 
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Aww iboz. Hugs to you. Thats right, I agree with you. Michael suffered at the hands of men though, ie Chandler, Bashir, Arvizo family.. media..... Michael knew so much pain BUT he was a strong man.......you be strong too for him plz if you can..........He rests now.......... hard for us...........but ok for him finally now :( and :)

Nice to see you my friend.

Yes, men made MJ suffer, not God. That needs to be said too. God had nothing to do with that. People are just plain cruel, and that will never change either. People need to be accountable for their actions. God does not control the person and what they say or do.

MJ is at peace. He does not know what people are saying now.
 
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hey folks....how is everyone doing......sorry about you thumb marialovesmj...:(
 
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For the record, people need to stop blaming God for everything.

It's like people have a problem with guns, but it's people who kill people, not guns.
 
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For the record, people need to stop blaming God for everything.

It's like people have a problem with guns, but it's people who kill people, not guns.

I agree..God is good...he doesn't want us to suffer ......it is people's choices in life that make the out come of their lives not Gods....He gave us life....he told us to choose how we would live it.
 
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I agree..God is good...he doesn't want us to suffer ......it is people's choices in life that make the out come of their lives not Gods....He gave us life....he told us to choose how we would live it.

Thank you for agreeing with me, thunder.
 
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For the record, people need to stop blaming God for everything.

It's like people have a problem with guns, but it's people who kill people, not guns.

I agree with you too earthy.
 
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I believe God thought that Michael has given everything he had to give to earth. I'd say so too but we didn't get This Is It. But thinking about that, many people wouldn't seen that concert because not having ticket (I didn't have) so this is awesome that as many people as possible can enjoy This Is It concert.

There's no reason to blame God about record. There's only one company we can blame and that's Sony!
 
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I believe God thought that Michael has given everything he had to give to earth. I'd say so too but we didn't get This Is It. But thinking about that, many people wouldn't seen that concert because not having ticket (I didn't have) so this is awesome that as many people as possible can enjoy This Is It concert.

There's no reason to blame God about record. There's only one company we can blame and that's Sony!

Hi Evilman! I am looking forward to the movie too.

Secondly, people are not blaming God for the record, I just read all the time how one has changed their minds about God since MJ died. I have to wonder if someone is that effected by death when it is an actual family member.

Like I said before, we all die. When it's our turn, it's our turn, no matter who we are.
 
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Hello, all! I haven't been here in a couple of weeks. Trying to catch up!

I'm nervous about some issues in my church, and how my dad is being treated by some members. Our pastor is leaving to preach at a church that has lost over 600 members in the past year because of the pastor having an affair/child with the secretary, and numerous other issues. They need his type of preaching.
People start to put our pastor on a high pedestal and "worship" the pastor instead of the Lord, and that presents a problem. It happened another time when I was little, and my mom was reprimanded for wanting that pastor gone, until she was RIGHT about it.
My dad has just been bullied to no end about things, and that he is of no use for anything except computers to one of our members (the pastor's brother), and he's just not being treated right by some other ones. BUT, the majority stick up for him. I hope their view on him does not affect the way they see me, my brother, and my mom.
This whole thing is stupid.

And, please pray for me and every single female at my college, because we had an armed robbery on Monday and this morning a girl got accosted from behind by a male assailant BEHIND MY DORM but he was driven away by another guy that came to help the girl out.
 
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Hi Evilman! I am looking forward to the movie too.

Secondly, people are not blaming God for the record, I just read all the time how one has changed their minds about God since MJ died. I have to wonder if someone is that effected by death when it is an actual family member.

Like I said before, we all die. When it's our turn, it's our turn, no matter who we are.

My mum & I were regulars at our church but when my nana died in 98. Our lives collapsed we just stopped believing & stopped going to church. It changed our lives.
Since 98 I have lost many friends & a few family. way to many friends to mention. I just kept every death bottled up inside & never let anyone in. I used to get bullied at school because of the many people I had lost. People used to say I was cursed & for a while I believed. Each death got easier which probably makes no sense but I was so used to it & so used to hearing "they have died,he has died,she has died."

MJ's death struck hard because I had met & spoken to him. Maybe if I hadn't met him it wouldn't have been that bad.
When mum told me MJ had a heart attack I was like sure it's MJ he will be fine. I was flying to NZ that morning. My pilot had only heard the heart attack also so all the way over to NZ we listened to MJ & danced in our seats.
When I landed my bf told me MJ had died It didn't sink in. That day my bf,his bro & I signed adoption + legal guardian papers for 5 children (Complicated story). After doing that I flew back to Aus still listening to MJ with the pilot. The weekend everything on tv was MJ related. I watched & lived MJ even had my ipod playing under my pillow. I thought if I stop listening or watching then he will be dead.
On the wednesday I was about to be left for nannying & I collapsed in a heap & started crying uncontrollably. I was dashed to hospital because I couldn't breathe. I don't remember much just that was the day I accepted MJ's death. Only 1 family I nanny for knows I met MJ & thats it. My mum didn't even know.
Death is all around us & yes we will all die. Its easier when you can prepare & know death is coming.
 
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MJJ_luv1991 I will be praying for you :) I'm sure it will be ok. God works in mysterious ways
 
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Hello, all! I haven't been here in a couple of weeks. Trying to catch up!

I'm nervous about some issues in my church, and how my dad is being treated by some members. Our pastor is leaving to preach at a church that has lost over 600 members in the past year because of the pastor having an affair/child with the secretary, and numerous other issues. They need his type of preaching.
People start to put our pastor on a high pedestal and "worship" the pastor instead of the Lord, and that presents a problem. It happened another time when I was little, and my mom was reprimanded for wanting that pastor gone, until she was RIGHT about it.
My dad has just been bullied to no end about things, and that he is of no use for anything except computers to one of our members (the pastor's brother), and he's just not being treated right by some other ones. BUT, the majority stick up for him. I hope their view on him does not affect the way they see me, my brother, and my mom.
This whole thing is stupid.

And, please pray for me and every single female at my college, because we had an armed robbery on Monday and this morning a girl got accosted from behind by a male assailant BEHIND MY DORM but he was driven away by another guy that came to help the girl out.


I will certainly pray for you. I'm sorry you went through all you have.
 
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My mum & I were regulars at our church but when my nana died in 98. Our lives collapsed we just stopped believing & stopped going to church. It changed our lives.
Since 98 I have lost many friends & a few family. way to many friends to mention. I just kept every death bottled up inside & never let anyone in. I used to get bullied at school because of the many people I had lost. People used to say I was cursed & for a while I believed. Each death got easier which probably makes no sense but I was so used to it & so used to hearing "they have died,he has died,she has died."

MJ's death struck hard because I had met & spoken to him. Maybe if I hadn't met him it wouldn't have been that bad.
When mum told me MJ had a heart attack I was like sure it's MJ he will be fine. I was flying to NZ that morning. My pilot had only heard the heart attack also so all the way over to NZ we listened to MJ & danced in our seats.
When I landed my bf told me MJ had died It didn't sink in. That day my bf,his bro & I signed adoption + legal guardian papers for 5 children (Complicated story). After doing that I flew back to Aus still listening to MJ with the pilot. The weekend everything on tv was MJ related. I watched & lived MJ even had my ipod playing under my pillow. I thought if I stop listening or watching then he will be dead.
On the wednesday I was about to be left for nannying & I collapsed in a heap & started crying uncontrollably. I was dashed to hospital because I couldn't breathe. I don't remember much just that was the day I accepted MJ's death. Only 1 family I nanny for knows I met MJ & thats it. My mum didn't even know.
Death is all around us & yes we will all die. Its easier when you can prepare & know death is coming.

Well, we knew my grandmother's death was coming, and it still hit us hard. She was a devoted Christian and loved her Lord, and she is now with Him. She would not want us to stop believing because she died.

I sympathize over your loss. Loss is hard, but I won't never stop believing.

HUGS!!!!
 
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Agnostic here. However, do not look down on people who believe in Jesus, Allah, Buddha, or whoever else.
 
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Michelle, I am so glad all worked out for you!!
 
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My grandmother died four dies after MJ. Felt kind of bad back in the days then. And then my best friend started dating the girl I had crush on. Oh well, thank God that's over now!

And my grandmother... well yeah, she was Christian as well. But she was in horrible condition. Only every second day she could get out of the bed to eat and do something. She wasn't very close to me but my mum got depression then. She's kind of OK today but she still has stress from many things.

Hugs and prays for everyone now! Now I know how much it feels losing close people.
 
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My grandmother died four dies after MJ. Felt kind of bad back in the days then. And then my best friend started dating the girl I had crush on. Oh well, thank God that's over now!

And my grandmother... well yeah, she was Christian as well. But she was in horrible condition. Only every second day she could get out of the bed to eat and do something. She wasn't very close to me but my mum got depression then. She's kind of OK today but she still has stress from many things.

Hugs and prays for everyone now! Now I know how much it feels losing close people.

I hear ya. It stinks!!
 
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I've been in and out with Jesus for years now...although I've been to Christian school from pre-school to 12th grade, I was turned off by a lot of things that I've seen in the church - plus liberal arts College with professors who treat the Bible as fan-fiction makes it real easy to lose my way. It wasn't until recently when I was at my lowest point in life did I really start coming back.

First I went to church just to support my parents because they became members of the church. The topic was "change," and just about EVERY WORD that the pastor spoke was directly relevant to me. It wasn't like the pastor was vague either; each and every thing he stated described me TOO perfectly. Secondly, I watched Suze Orman this past Saturday, who with one of her guests, pretty much used the idea of speaking something into existence - something I haven't seen or done myself since my days of Christian school. In my head, I knew there was no logic to that, but it made me feel good nonetheless. Then, I realized that I use too much logic, and God doesn't work in the realm of human logic. THAT was confirmed when I received a phone call on Monday that not only was I not expecting, but confirmed frankly EVERYTHING I remembered about Christ, what He does, and when He does it.

Like I said, Christ doesn't work on human logic. I've seen this within the past two weeks, and Job was a man who knew this first hand. The second thing, that all Christians know but is helpful to remember, is that he has a certain plan for us and he works on his own time. I had a plan to do one thing, but God disagreed with that. Sometimes I hope for things to happen immediately, God says that it's best for me to practice patience and to wait the next day. Finally, God has a plan. I'm no saint, and I'm still not at a point where I know exactly what God's long term plans are for me, but I do feel like I'm seeing God's work in full motion. Earlier today, for example, I was told that for the new job that I AM getting, I would have to find a paystub or a W2 from 4 to 5 years ago from a company that is out of business! I found the paystub on my bookshelf about 15 minutes ago. Believe me, I am not an organized person who keeps records like that (though I should begin immediately), so finding a check dated 12/2/2004 for my needs is pretty much a miracle and more proof of God's work.

I hate how corny it sounds, but it's the truth considering all of these things that I am seeing as I try to remove my thought process and having faith by leaving everything to Christ. Again, I'm by no means perfect and wish I had more insight into God's plan, but it feels good to finally have someone on my side again and to know that there is a plan for me that I am following even though I do now know all of the full details of said plan.

I thank the Lord for that, and it is my goal to try to always remember this even in my bad times. It is a reminder to me that God is there and is working whether I know it or not.
 
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Yeah, where did all the believers go??
 
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