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Marvin Putnam, attorney for AEG Live responded, “The Court of Appeal rarely grants these extraordinary requests, although I am confident, whether before or after trial, that the courts of this state will find the law does not allow Mrs. Jackson’s claim. Any other outcome would wreak havoc on California’s business community.”

I was wondering if, lets say Katherine wins this case and jury agrees to reward her with 1$.
Does this appeal means that no matter what amount jury awards to Jacksons, AEG does not pay a penny before their appeal is denied or approved?


I still cannot get over this bit:
"AEG's lawyer also states this ruling is also creates the notion that people in debt are morally suspect and unfit for positions of responsibility even if they have taken oaths and do not have history of wrongful conduct. It also creates legal negligence to hire licenses professional with personal debts. AEG states this is a problem for California employers and workers."

How dare they cast doubt of incompetence over whole medical profession as well other professions they mentioned!
Also, didn't this judge think before she made her decision, that she herself is potential risk (if she has debt) to commit unethical actions?
I might as well start thinking if she being paid by Jackson's lawyers the let at least one of their claims to go ahead?
I'm very upset that any person out there, are put under the bad light because of what CM did!!!
Also I'm surprised that Jackson side have any medical experts to testify for them, I would have left that team with bang of the door!

Can we sue Jacksons for slander and trying to cast every single person out there with debt as potential criminal?
 
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Bubs said:
Also I'm surprised that Jackson side have any medical experts to testify for them, I would have left that team with bang of the door!
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I haven't been following the AEG lawsuit threads very closely, I don't have much time at the moment, so sorry if what i'm saying is a bit off, but I think the medical experts can just confirm all the mistakes CM did, like they did during the trial. What else can they do ? Some of them might talk about addiction, but that doesn't make AEG medical experts. How can the medical experts confirm that AEG should have drawn medical conclusions when they are not medical professionals ?
They will just testify to what they can in their fields, that might not help katherine or even turn against her IMO, and I don't think the experts care if their testimonies eventually turn against her.

Bubs said:
Can we sue Jacksons for slander and trying to cast every single person out there with debt as potential criminal?
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Nathy MJ said:
I think it must be a typo... $40 billion is beyond unreal!

It's even more unreal when we see that Philip Anschutz, owner of AEG, net worth is $10 billion! http://www.forbes.com/profile/philip-anschutz/
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It is very hard to believe that it isn't some kind of typo. I do think they'll ask for more than $40 million, but billion makes the suit more frivolous than what it already is.

The richest entertainers in the world are worth $2 to $4 billion at the most. And there's only a couple of them. NO way was even the greatest entertainer in the world going to generate $40 billion, singing and dancing, etc. It's an insane figure, even if it's a figure they want to use to start negotiations with and settle down, it's insane.
 
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I am dreading what the rest of those e-mails say...this is NOT going to be easy. smh..:(
 
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gerryevans said:
It is very hard to believe that it isn't some kind of typo. I do think they'll ask for more than $40 million, but billion makes the suit more frivolous than what it already is.

The richest entertainers in the world are worth $2 to $4 billion at the most. And there's only a couple of them. NO way was even the greatest entertainer in the world going to generate $40 billion, singing and dancing, etc. It's an insane figure, even if it's a figure they want to use to start negotiations with and settle down, it's insane.
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Surely Michael would have made 40 billion, especially after completing 50 extra shows with brothers:)
I wonder who came up with the number 40 billion, Jermaine, The Delusional One, or Randy, IT IS NOT OVER YET?

In a different subject, I wonder how come no papers have picked up that juicy piece of news?
I would think tabloids will have a field day with mullin' over whether MJ was/is worth of 40 billion.
 
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Bubs said:
Surely Michael would have made 40 billion, especially after completing 50 extra shows with brothers:)
I wonder who came up with the number 40 billion, Jermaine, The Delusional One, or Randy, IT IS NOT OVER YET?

In a different subject, I wonder how come no papers have picked up that juicy piece of news?
I would think tabloids will have a field day with mullin' over whether MJ was/is worth of 40 billion.
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Here's a tabloid article about "Greedy Katherine." Unfortunately, it also says Mike had a "raging addiction"--when will they STOP THAT??

http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/20...rine-jackson-dismissed-california-court-0314/
 
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Bubs said:
In a different subject, I wonder how come no papers have picked up that juicy piece of news?
I would think tabloids will have a field day with mullin' over whether MJ was/is worth of 40 billion.
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Good question. The unsealed medical records and emails as well.
 
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All I'll say is this, all of it would never have happened if someone cared enough for MJ to take care of him and protect him. A lot of folks claim they knew something wasn't right with MJ for the last month of his life yet no one said a word as long as they were getting paid. That goes for AEG, Murray, Ortega, Dileo and the Jackson family.
 
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Yes it would have been nice if Michael allowed someone around who could take care of him. But I don't think he wanted taken care of. he was a grown man. Taking care of him ? as in how?

Dileo did say something about he supected Klein may have been giving MJ someting and then kenny Ortega was concerned and told AEG MJ was dazed and confused at work and needed help. That's when AEG called for a meeting and went directly to speak with Murray and Michael about his health and they were told MJ was and would be fine and not to interfere in his medical treatment, but take care of the show biz end. Michael told them he was fine and would be fine.

After that weekend MJ came into work and was fine and gave great rehearsals. So at that time they felt MJ was doing better and Murray was helping him. I'm not sure what more "at that time" they could have done. ? Michael was a grown man had his own mind and certainly wouldn't tell them or anyone about his sleeping regiment. They asked him to get it together and asked his Dr to make sure he got it together (as in come into work healthy not dazed and confused and out of it. ) They didnt imply he was being drugged or for Murray to give him drugs, they implied do you job Murray, get Michael healthy so he can work. IMO ..

Im not sure what else they could have done or anyone in this situation being that no one knew what MJ and Murray was doing. but I'm open to reasonable suggestions .. There would be NO family interventions that's for sure. Michael never allowed that. He wouldn't allow them near him for such a thing. Plus he wasn't even abusing Prescriptions drugs anyway.. but He was using a very unorthadox (though not illegal) method for sleeping that No one there could have even guessed in a million years.
 
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jaydom7 said:
All I'll say is this, all of it would never have happened if someone cared enough for MJ to take care of him and protect him. A lot of folks claim they knew something wasn't right with MJ for the last month of his life yet no one said a word as long as they were getting paid. That goes for AEG, Murray, Ortega, Dileo and the Jackson family.
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Actually, Ortega DID "say a word"--the email he wrote--but his ideas were rejected by Murray and Mike.
 
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03/14/2013 Response filed: by Third Party Estate of Michael Jackson to court's orders of March 11 and 12

03/14/2013 Filed proof of service. by petitioner re revised petition for writ of mandate

03/14/2013 Exhibits lodged. by petitioner/13 volumes revised & redacted exhibits to petition

03/14/2013 Filed petition for writ of: mandate
 
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I can only assume that MJ Estate is trying to seal the medical records
 
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qbee said:
Yes it would have been nice if Michael allowed someone around who could take care of him. But I don't think he wanted taken care of. he was a grown man. Taking care of him ? as in how?

Dileo did say something about he supected Klein may have been giving MJ someting and then kenny Ortega was concerned and told AEG MJ was dazed and confused at work and needed help. That's when AEG called for a meeting and went directly to speak with Murray and Michael about his health and they were told MJ was and would be fine and not to interfere in his medical treatment, but take care of the show biz end. Michael told them he was fine and would be fine.

After that weekend MJ came into work and was fine and gave great rehearsals. So at that time they felt MJ was doing better and Murray was helping him. I'm not sure what more "at that time" they could have done. ? Michael was a grown man had his own mind and certainly wouldn't tell them or anyone about his sleeping regiment. They asked him to get it together and asked his Dr to make sure he got it together (as in come into work healthy not dazed and confused and out of it. ) They didnt imply he was being drugged or for Murray to give him drugs, they implied do you job Murray, get Michael healthy so he can work. IMO ..

Im not sure what else they could have done or anyone in this situation being that no one knew what MJ and Murray was doing. but I'm open to reasonable suggestions .. There would be NO family interventions that's for sure. Michael never allowed that. He wouldn't allow them near him for such a thing. Plus he wasn't even abusing Prescriptions drugs anyway.. but He was using a very unorthadox (though not illegal) method for sleeping that No one there could have even guessed in a million years.
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I agree with this. You can't tell an adult what to do (unless they are declared incompetent legally). Ortega testified at the CM trial that Mike did not show up at rehearsals for a week, and then when he did show up, he was confused, chilled, etc., and Ortega then wrote that email. I agree with Ortega, though, in that Mike needed a psychological evaluation--maybe they could have suggested it or recommended it? IMO he had fears that he needed to talk over with someone he trusted and someone who was able to help. If he had seen a shrink then that person could have prescribed meds that might have helped. Basically, there was too much that was NOT out in the open and NOT being said. When things are hidden away, you can't deal with them. That's why IMO it's better to express yourself to others than try and be polite, go with the flow, fit in, etc. When he told Ortega, "I'm fine"--was he covering up? Did he really believe he was fine? I'm not blaming him, though, b/c he was in a bad spot. Just wish there had been someone he could talk to honestly and openly--someone who was in a position to help and who wouldn't go to the tabloids.
 
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03/13/2013 Application filed to: by petitioner's for relief from default

03/14/2013 Order filed. petitioner's application for relief from March 12 order regarding sealed documents granted. (see order) Petitioner's still required to file under oath statement justifying the continued sealing of documents by March 18.

It seems AEG was able to keep some stuff sealed.
 
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ivy said:
I can only assume that MJ Estate is trying to seal the medical records
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Yes, as usual looking out for Michael in the trial. Thanks estate. Glad AEG was able to keep some things sealed. I know they did it for their own good, but indirectly it will benefit Michael as well.

Jamba about your comment: If he had seen a shrink then that person could have prescribed meds that might have helped.

Don't you think the last thing Michael needed while under Muarry's care was more medication. He needed to get off the prof which was causing all the adverse effects, like hot/cold. He needed to clean out his system. Once Muarry took him off the prof that night (according to Muarry, yeah) he was more lucid. It was not as though he was clinically psychotic and needed meds to help his condition, at least we have no evidence of that. All the symptoms Ortega saw were a direct result of medications Michael was being given by his dear doctor. Kenny did not know that, so he requested a psychological eval. Anyway if a psychologist or psychiatrist asked Michael questions and found out what he was taking, the first thing they would do is have him stop the medications, not give him more meds.
 
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jamba said:
Here's a tabloid article about "Greedy Katherine." Unfortunately, it also says Mike had a "raging addiction"--when will they STOP THAT??

http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/20...rine-jackson-dismissed-california-court-0314/
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Well, thats a start. Praise yourself, it's only going to get worse. I don't care a one bit what they say about these greedy punch of people (self-proclaimed family), they deserve every bit of bad press what they receive, but I do care what they say about Michael. The only hope is that the estate can do something (seal MJ's medical records), and step in like they did when one channel was going to do autopsy documentary of MJ. Btw, did we hear anything from Katherine then? No we didn't. She could have issued statement via her attorney that she disapproves such a document, but we heard absolutely nothing :puke:
It was fans and the estate that got it stopped, and family did nothing.

Funny thing is that when those tabloids prints all sort of garbage of Michael, every single family member remain quiet, but if they print something of them, they come out threatening to sue those tabloids (LaToya, Janet, Jermaine etc). They do not think Michael is worth of protecting, yet they are using his name for all of their projects.
So simple as that.
 
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ivy said:
03/13/2013 Application filed to: by petitioner's for relief from default

03/14/2013 Order filed. petitioner's application for relief from March 12 order regarding sealed documents granted. (see order) Petitioner's still required to file under oath statement justifying the continued sealing of documents by March 18.

It seems AEG was able to keep some stuff sealed.
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Question please: isn't this their emails? The defendants appealed and got Michael's medical records unsealed by the Court of Appeals. Plaintiffs cannot appeal their own case until after judgement rendered so the estate (third party) has come in to get the medical records resealed.
 
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Petrarose said:
Yes, as usual looking out for Michael in the trial. Thanks estate. Glad AEG was able to keep some things sealed. I know they did it for their own good, but indirectly it will benefit Michael as well.

Jamba about your comment: If he had seen a shrink then that person could have prescribed meds that might have helped.

Don't you think the last thing Michael needed while under Muarry's care was more medication. He needed to get off the prof which was causing all the adverse effects, like hot/cold. He needed to clean out his system. Once Muarry took him off the prof that night (according to Muarry, yeah) he was more lucid. It was not as though he was clinically psychotic and needed meds to help his condition, at least we have no evidence of that. All the symptoms Ortega saw were a direct result of medications Michael was being given by his dear doctor. Kenny did not know that, so he requested a psychological eval. Anyway if a psychologist or psychiatrist asked Michael questions and found out what he was taking, the first thing they would do is have him stop the medications, not give him more meds.
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Yes, that's what I meant--if he had gone to a shrink and had told the person everything--what Murray was doing, his own fears and concerns, hopes and wishes, someone he trusted fully, then maybe he would have gotten completely away from Murray and hopefully under the care of someone with integrity and professionalism. If he had medical needs for anxiety, insomnia, maybe there would be some short-term meds (?) or maybe a complete lack of meds (?).
 
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Tygger said:
Question please: isn't this their emails?
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yes that's the emails. It looks like AEG was able to at least temporarily seal the emails.

Estate has a third party motion which I can only assume is about the medical records.

Katherine isn't a part of this appeal. She's a real party in interest.

AEG is appealing Superior Court's decision. So that makes AEG petitioner, Superior Court as respondent. Katherine as real party in interest and everyone else - including the Estate - third party.
 
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I hope these greedy leeches get nothing. Shame on them.
 
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Ivy has any legal person given an educated guess as to how long they think the justices will take. I know you can never know with them, but I remember the last time when Muarry appealed about the sequestering, some were able to speculate about how long that would take. As we saw it took a very short time.
 
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03/18/2013 Order filed. RPI and (Third Party) Estate of Michael Jackson may respond to petitioner's response by March 20

03/18/2013 Opposition filed. preliminary opo, by rpi Katharine Jackson individually & Guardian at Litem of Michael J. Jackson Jr. et al

03/18/2013 Certificate of interested entities or persons filed by: rpi Katharine Jackson et al
 
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Oh Oh just what we expected:

03/18/2013 Opposition filed. preliminary opo, by rpi Katharine Jackson individually & Guardian at Litem of Michael J. Jackson Jr. et al

03/18/2013 Certificate of interested entities or persons filed by: rpi Katharine Jackson et al

I wonder if the kids Guardian at Litem really thins AEG is liable? I know she has to do this to represent her little clients, but I wonder if personally she sees AEG & Muarry as having a dual role in Michael's death. Then, she gets paid by the estate, but I notice she never tries to ask for things to be sealed to safeguard the children's emotional being, like Michael's medical--unless only the estate can ask for things to be sealed?
 
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In this case Guardian ad litem is Katherine. she's signing the documents for the kids.
 
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ivy said:
In this case Guardian ad litem is Katherine. she's signing the documents for the kids.
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Oh thank you. I thought it was that lawyer, so then what is the lawyer's role here in relation to the kids?
 
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Petrarose said:
Oh thank you. I thought it was that lawyer, so then what is the lawyer's role here in relation to the kids?
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Ashtanga said:
Good question!
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None. Margaret Lodise's duty is only about the probate and looking for the best interest of kids in the Estate matters. Nothing more.
 
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ivy said:
03/18/2013 Order filed. RPI and (Third Party) Estate of Michael Jackson may respond to petitioner's response by March 20

03/18/2013 Opposition filed. preliminary opo, by rpi Katharine Jackson individually & Guardian at Litem of Michael J. Jackson Jr. et al

03/18/2013 Certificate of interested entities or persons filed by: rpi Katharine Jackson et al
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What those things means?
 
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