Anyone find religion scary ?

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Sometimes it seems to me that religion is seriously scary, To the point i just ignore it. When people quote it aswell it makes me think we all have to be perfect or we'll go to hell. I know for sure no matter how many times i ask for forgivness im never gonna stop sinning. As far as im concerced their's two types of religious people, the ones that actually help you and make you want to get more involved with god and the ones that are tooooo "perfect" and end up scaring you away, Those ones usually have some sort of problem like those preists being paedos ect just something dodgy about them

Anyone Agree
 
When I was about 3 or 4 my local Church sent the kids who went to Sunday School to a Monastery for a weekend, I only went to church because my parents couldn't find a baby sitter. But when I was at this Monastery called St Marys in a Town called Perth me being the age I was thought it was terrifying I kept thinking " Why are these people worshiping a dying man and why am I here" being there did genuinely scare me
 
When I was about 3 or 4 my local Church sent the kids who went to Sunday School to a Monastery for a weekend, I only went to church because my parents couldn't find a baby sitter. But when I was at this Monastery called St Marys in a Town called Perth me being the age I was thought it was terrifying I kept thinking " Why are these people worshiping a dying man and why am I here" being there did genuinely scare me

Yes, I can imagine that being scary for a young child. Honestly, I think children of that age are way too young to get involved with things like religion, they won't understand it and are basically brainwashed to believe what their parents/teachers believe. They don't really have a choice. Same goes for politics btw. I think children should only start learning about complicated topics like this when they are around 12. They should learn religion as a theory, just as atheism is a theory and agnosticism is a theory, a vision of life. Ideally, a school should just say: "Look, this is how Christians view the world, this is how atheists view the world and this is how agnostics view the world". Then it is up to the individual to choose whatever theory fits their own ideas best.

Before it sounds like I'm criticizing religious people, the same can be said about atheists. My parents are atheists (although they were both baptized Catholics and so were me and my siblings as it's a "family tradition", they don't actually believe in God though) and they were always mocking religion when I was growing up. This kind of behaviour also affacts children and they are likely to take over their parents ideas without considering the alternative. I am an agnostic now and still get into debates often with my parents and siblings who think the idea of a God it utterly ridiculous, while I hold it within the realm of possibilities.

That said, my sister and her husband do think they should expose their children to other ideas than just atheism, so they sent one of their sons (now 5) to a Christian school. Although they kinda regret that now since he keeps asking them to read stories from the bible before bed time :lol: It's really amazing how children perceive this... last year my nephew (at age 4) said to me: "Grandpa is not here anymore now... the angels took him upstairs to be with the child". I said surprised, what child? (didn't know who he was talking about, there weren't any children deceased in our family) And he said: "Hmm... what's his name again? Oh yeah! Jesus :)" And I was standing there like :bugeyed How does he know this? I guess he learnt it from school but that was really strange for such a young child to 'know' about this kinda stuff.
 
well I am a Christian and I know that If I am doing something wrong and I KNOW it is wrong then that is held against me,,but,,if I am doing somthing wrong and I dont yet KNOW it is wrong then God has patience with me and some day he reveals to me that what I am doing is wrong...and I know not to do it again. Jesus Loves the sinner not the sin...he doesn't like what I do at times but as long as I keep his name on my lips and confess with an honest heart that he is my Lord and Savior...he will always love and forgive me. There really isn't anything to be afraid of. Also children should be exposed to the Lord as young as possible..it is important to start them on a solid foundation when they are young...also child should be taught that Christianity is not a religion...its a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ..if children are introduced to the Lord at a later age,,that is ok...he is always ready to except them. You can be any age and except the Lord..he is always there..all you have to do is open the door and except him in your heart. He is always waiting for that door to be opened ..he doesn't force anyone to open it...only the willing..
 
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Religion or faith as a concept doesn't scare me. What scares me is the mentality people have because of religion.
 
Everything in live needs balance. Religion is good, but without fanaticism. It's what ruin everything and brings hatred and division.
 
Religion or faith as a concept doesn't scare me. What scares me is the mentality people have because of religion.

Everything in live needs balance. Religion is good, but without fanaticism. It's what ruin everything and brings hatred and division.


I agree with you both! :)

To answer the thread question btw, no I don't find religion scary personally. Actually, I like listening to religious songs because the message behind them is so peaceful and beautiful, not scary at all. I think the centre of Christianity, Jesus' teachings, are really beautiful as well, even though I'm not a Christian. I do have morals and they coincide with much of Jesus' teachings, e.g. I try not to judge people and stay open-minded, I easily forgive people for their mistakes, I try to always be honest, I have never stolen anything, etc. You don't have to be religious to believe in these things.

I was just listening to this song:

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Isn't that beautiful? :wub:
 
I was raised christian but now I'm I guess what you'd called atheist. I remember going to church when I was a kid and being scared when the people would start "feeling the spirit"
 
Oh, you know, when the music starts and people get up and start jumping around in the isles. Really scared me as a kid :/ I remember crying and my grandmother would get mad at me :lol:

People really do that? I once saw a documentary where Christians would start speaking in tongues and jumping around but I thought that was just the fanatics lol :lol: What kind of church did you go to?

I only ever went to church three times (baptized when I was a baby, holy communion when I was 8 and "vormsel" when I was 12), it was kinda obligatory in my family cause my grandfather was a strict Catholic and these things were kind of a tradition, but nobody in my family apart from my grandfather is a practicing Christian lol. Anyway, my experiences in church were that you had to sit still and be quiet, even coughing or sneezing would get you angry looks :lol:
 
People really do that? I once saw a documentary where Christians would start speaking in tongues and jumping around but I thought that was just the fanatics lol :lol: What kind of church did you go to?

I only ever went to church three times (baptized when I was a baby, holy communion when I was 8 and "vormsel" when I was 12), it was kinda obligatory in my family cause my grandfather was a strict Catholic and these things were kind of a tradition, but nobody in my family apart from my grandfather is a practicing Christian lol. Anyway, my experiences in church were that you had to sit still and be quiet, even coughing or sneezing would get you angry looks :lol:

Yup haha I don't remember the kind of church it was but it was an experience I won't soon forget :lol: They were very devout christians.
 
How should I picture this? :p
Like this:

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What people do for religion is a bit creepy. Religion is so brainwashing sometimes. Some people are so consumed by it that they will do anything for it. I don't know. I'm not religious, and I just look at religions as just another way put people into groups and discriminate against each other. Believing in God is fine with me, I just wouldn't join a particular religion. (I separated from mine).
 
Yeah, I do, but you could apply the same principles to just about anything. When people start to worship celebrities or political leaders, it's just as terrifying. It makes them look like members of a cult (especially with "fan" names like juggalos, little monsters, ELFs, MCRmy, TH family, maggots, etc.) or when they take their obsessions far enough to exert death threats (i.e. some Justin Bieber fans who infamously sent Selena Gomez death threats...) It's even worse when the artist/band encourages it (i.e. Gaga, most notably, in recent times, but there have been others I am sure)--so that when viewing concert footage, you're left wondering when they're going to bring out the Kool-Aid.

It's especially terrifying when people start crying over someone they didn't even know existed a year ago (Bieber seems to be the top candidate for this one), and who has done nothing to really deserve such strong sentiments in the eyes of a neutral party--or someone who is by all means a tyrant yet has the unwavering loyalty of his group members and sometimes even the people (Stalin comes to mind--in a Russian poll he was still voted as 3rd most important Russian in history, citing the fact that he made Russia into a superpower as the reason.)

The above examples show how just about anything can become a "religion."

Specific to religion in the generally accepted term, I always found evangelicals to be the most terrifying. Ted Haggard comes to mind--I remember him from one of the Dawk's films, and watching him preach was pretty scary. There are far worse things, though, like the "Hell House" some Christian group erects every Halloween to convince children, some as young as 7, to follow Christ by showing them how people who get pregnant out of wedlock, get abortions, are gay, etc. burn in Hell through theatrics. Needless to say, this borders on child abuse, and there have been stories of children being horrendously traumatized by these events.

The "ex-gay" camps are also cause for concern, most notably they exist among evangelical Christians. There is no way to make anyone "ex-gay" any more than there is making someone "ex-straight." Sexual orientation has been proven to be a highly complex thing, with very few people being exclusively (meaning 100%) straight or gay in the Kinsey scale. Most people are predominantly one or the other, but very rarely exclusively without the shadow of a doubt one. Thus, there is no "right" or "wrong" way to be, but rather a myriad of ways people can be, and it's all OK. That's why ex gay ministries sponsored by religious organizations have always given me the creeps--they're basically brainwashing people into denying who they really are, and that never really has a happy outcome.

The way people start crying and speaking in tongues during some services is also highly frightening. I just can't understand things like that at all. This is usually seen among evangelicals, but it is not exclusive to them.

I guess what scares me the most is the blind obedience people seem to have to something they can't even prove is true.
 
I don’t find religion in itself scary. What I find scary is how people throughout history often have used religion (and ideologies) to justify intolerance, violence, discrimination and hatred towards each other. And how people can use religion to drive their own agenda and cause division among people.

But I don’t see religion in itself as the problem. Religion and spirituality can and should be a source of comfort and foster love and caring for others. I have found that in the core of every religion there is a strong ethic and an obligation to care and respect other beings.
 
FlyAway;3302289 said:
I don’t find religion in itself scary. What I find scary is how people throughout history often have used religion (and ideologies) to justify intolerance, violence, discrimination and hatred towards each other. And how people can use religion to drive their own agenda and cause division among people.

But I don’t see religion in itself as the problem. Religion and spirituality can and should be a source of comfort and foster love and caring for others. I have found that in the core of every religion there is a strong ethic and an obligation to care and respect other beings.

I absolutely agree with this!!!
 
FlyAway;3302289 said:
I don’t find religion in itself scary. What I find scary is how people throughout history often have used religion (and ideologies) to justify intolerance, violence, discrimination and hatred towards each other. And how people can use religion to drive their own agenda and cause division among people.

But I don’t see religion in itself as the problem. Religion and spirituality can and should be a source of comfort and foster love and caring for others. I have found that in the core of every religion there is a strong ethic and an obligation to care and respect other beings.

I agree :)
 
Not really. Only if it's something like Jesus Camp (highly recommend that documentary) and they're trying to take over the government. As long as that doesn't happen, and they don't start defending their beliefs with weapons, I don't mind religion.
 
No i mean when someone asks a question and people quote him like

John 3 14...and he said unto ect...

I duno it just scares me and makes me think it's all to complicated, Although i do pray, Another thing is i dont actually know if, deep down, i truly belive in god. Is their anyway to know for sure
 
No i mean when someone asks a question and people quote him like

John 3 14...and he said unto ect...

I duno it just scares me and makes me think it's all to complicated, Although i do pray, Another thing is i dont actually know if, deep down, i truly belive in god. Is their anyway to know for sure
Faith and experience.
 
There is nothing wrong with religion...............

All problems on this Planet lie within humans............


Usually, religions only try to teach us two things:
1.) Do Good
2.) Don't do Bad


It's the people who corrupt everything!!!!!
 
There is nothing wrong with religion...............

All problems on this Planet lie within humans............


Usually, religions only try to teach us two things:
1.) Do Good
2.) Don't do Bad


It's the people who corrupt everything!!!!!
:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:

100% agree.
 
I can't stand when people trying to shove their religion down my throat.
When people do horrible things and say 'its in the name of religion/god'. Fundamentalist religious. Brainwashing. That's pretty scary or at least annoying.lol
 
I can't stand when people trying to shove their religion down my throat.
When people do horrible things and say 'its in the name of religion/god'. Fundamentalist religious. Brainwashing. That's pretty scary or at least annoying.lol

I agree I don't like the amount of Brian Washing that goes on within some religious cults. It's like they prey on weak minded people to get them to do there dirty work for them.
 
i find it laughable that in the 21 century you still have ppl who believe in such illogical notions. iguess its from being brainwashed as kids. well if its gets them through the day!
 
I agree I don't like the amount of Brian Washing that goes on within some religious cults. It's like they prey on weak minded people to get them to do there dirty work for them.

It seems to be something in human nature that makes certain people, especially during dire times, follow certain ideologies/philosophies despite their lack of rationality. There are various examples of this throughout history, so I won't even bother citing all of them as they should be familiar to the general public, but religion (in the organized sense of the word) certainly seems to be among the top models for chaos. There was the Inquisition, which killed off Jews, Muslims, and Pagans who refused to convert to Christianity, all by order of Pope Innocent III and his successors. Then, of course, there were the witch trials in both Europe and the New World, which were encouraged by religious authorities through "fire and brimstone" sermons meant to scare the populace into blind obedience in order to advance certain religious leaders' agendas. Then, there's Nazi Germany, whose leaders combined Christian principles with Paganism. Himmler even considered himself to be the High Priest of the SS, and created many celebrations around Pagan holidays which made him the ridicule of te Reich and a constant source of headache to the more sober Hitler, who did not ascribe to these ideas. More importantly, herein can also be observed the creation of a sort of "religion of the state," meaning the figureheads of the government were basically revered in the same way a religious authority would be.This "religion of the state" phenomenon can also be observed in atheistic Soviet Russia--whose leaders created a sort of cult behind figures such as Lenin and Stalin, requiring portraits of them to be hung in every home, songs sung to Lenin, etc.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with the notion of believing in a complex being or set of beings who rule the universe and people (illogical, yes.) However, when these abstract musings and hypotheses are concreted into an organized set of religions, and the principles behind these organized manners of worship are applied to things outside of religion in a way which is very much reminiscent of organized religion, there is much to fear, because the masses appear to be greatly susceptible to that appeal.

Additionally, I find it a wonder that people are willing to believe something written in a book which has been proven to have various historical, time/space inaccuracies. I'll never be able to understand that--and there are those who come up with the argument that some religious texts are to be taken as metaphors--well, how do you decide which ones are metaphors and which ones are meant to be taken literally without cherry-picking. Then, there's the whole Old Testament God and New Testament God discrepancy--why bother writing an old Testament in the first place, telling people to sacrifice their kids to you, etc. only to replace it with a new Testament with a whole different set of rules! What kind of games art thou playing at!? They tell me to disregard everything and pick up the new copy just when I was getting into this whole Old Testament thing! :(
 
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