Am I the only one who thinks of nothing else but joining him?

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i want to say there is more to live then my darty past
some of you want to take your own life ? why?
there is more to live for then michael music
there is something in my past that i don't like talking about im just enjoying lives as much i can
part of me died the day michael died
 
I think of the day I will join him often - but not at all in a suicidal way. I want to finally meet him oneday and be able to tell him about all the things I did in my life because of him and FOR HIM. I want to tell him that my kids (that ive not yet had) grew up loving him, that I gave to charities, recycled, planted trees, or whatever it is that I do for him.
I want to tell him about all the friends I have made and fans ive met from all over the world because he brought us together. I dont want to face him and have him ask me why I gave up.

Love to you all xxx
 
I would never aspire to have a "good job" or a big house. I am not a materialistic, empty person in that way. Those are things which society has taught you to desire. You don't desire them for yourself. There is a reason why, nowadays, the only way to have both of the things you said is to go to college. Is college free? NO. Those b@$t@*d$$$$$$$ charge whatever they frickin please because they KNOW they've got you cornered. They have already won. Even if you get scholarships, federal aid, etc., they're still scamming you for money and absorbing all they can because they know you have no other option, especially in this $#*t economy.

Well, for us, the fun never ends. Once you get thoroughly scammed and thrown out of the college you attended with diploma in hand, you are expected to sell yourself to society and be used until the day you die. It's all a business, your "good job" and your "big house". Look at all the people who had "good jobs" and "big houses", who got foreclosed in recent years. Au Revoir to your American Dream, hello reality. The banks had no qualms about putting people in the street just to repossess those houses in hopes of selling them for profit.

To answer your question clearly, what I have is existential depression. In other words, I am thoroughly disillusioned with how the world is today. I in no way want to be a part of all of that, as you have suggested. If that's what you consider having a good life, I want no part of it, thank you.

I have no doubt that there are many worthwhile people on the planet, like Michael. What dominates our illusory world of madness, however, is something green and evil. Something that controls all of us, even if we are against it. There is no escaping it.

So yes, Michael is my whole world. I won't bother speaking about private family things on any forum. All I will tell you is that there is a good reason why they are all out of my life, especially my mother. If he's not your whole world and you have someone else, great for you.

To me, he is my everything, and the only reason I am here. It is Michael, good literature, writing and art that keep my sanity intact.

You said it very well. Most people are materialistic person and mostly cares for themself only. I never was and that is why I'm always left behind by my peers. While most people care about having a good job, good life, good relatioships for themself, I care about the planet, the enviroment and the animals!
I really do wish there are more people who are not selfish and pays more attention to what is going on with the world rather than just being wrap around their own lifes. If there are more people like that, then maybe the world will have the chance to survive from all the pollution and destruction that human cause!
 
I have spent a lot of time crying today. I miss him so much. It hurts. And what is worse is that a medical problem I have is becoming worse and worse. And I just... I don't know what to do anymore. I just see no purpose to live anymore if nothing is going right. From the way people talk, I am just going to die anyway. I feel dead already, sick and broken-hearted. The hole has gotten so huge in my heart I don't understand how it can still beat. :weeping: I can close my eyes and swear I can feel his touch on my face. I just wish I could curl up in the grave with him.

When you are hurting so much inside, you are confuse. It seems there is no hope in your life anymore and there is no use holding on. It feels lost. If this is the first time you feel this way, then you only have two choices, to stay strong or to give up. At times like this it's just too hard to stay strong but we are all with you, even Michael wants you to stay strong.
I'd been through very sad moments before and that is why I know I can hold on and stay strong when Michael left eventhough I'd cried so much. But, I dont know about you, your background and your childhood. They things you experince in you life and the way you are brought up affects your thinking a lot. Whatever it is, you have to keep holding on.
 
You said it very well. Most people are materialistic person and mostly cares for themself only. I never was and that is why I'm always left behind by my peers. While most people care about having a good job, good life, good relatioships for themself, I care about the planet, the enviroment and the animals!
I really do wish there are more people who are not selfish and pays more attention to what is going on with the world rather than just being wrap around their own lifes. If there are more people like that, then maybe the world will have the chance to survive from all the pollution and destruction that human cause!

Its quite possible to both care for the environment and animals etc. and want a good job etc. Michael Jackson is a prime example of that.

You all talk a lot about caring for the environment and stuff, but its pointless if your going be arrogant about it. Which is certainly the way its coming across.

One way of helping the world is to get a good job and donate as much money as you can to charities for certain causes. Its no good just sitting on your ass and talking about saving the planet.

Michael made himself a success and was able to give million and millions to charity and draw awareness to certain causes.
 
You are right L.T.D. about sitting here and think about saving this world while doing nothing.

Michael said during heal the world: ''and people they sit at the table and pray and all that, which is beautiful, but to DO something is the thing. You have to ACT.''
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocPb4mFIwXg


You won't help the world by sitting depressed here, you have to come out, thinking about how life is, to enjoy, enjoy helping people.

Sitting depressed and talk about ending your life isn't a solution.
It will only keep you more depressed.


We are here to help you all.
Please make a change.
 
I was having an interesting conversation with my shrink the other day that I think relates: he reminded me that when we are in a state of despair, we have to do something to get us out of that hopeless place before we can make any real decisions about our lives. We need a baseline good mood/daily functioning to even have the mental ability to start to look at things analytically and make things better for ourselves.

So my suggestion to anyone who is still hurting so bad that it is making them sad most of the time is to try doing something different to break the cycle, even if it's just for one day. Maybe try a few different things to see if there is anything that can bring you to a neutral place if not a "happy" one. My thoughts from my first email still stand (basically professional help, social interactions, physical activity, and helping others), but other things come to mind too, like playing with animals, taking a day to pamper yourself (massage, etc), explore a local site, walk somewhere you've never been before, call an old friend or family member you haven't spoken to in a while.... if you feel okay even for a few minutes you may remind your body what it is like to feel something other than despair.

Love you all, and always here if you need me,

Janine
 
Its quite possible to both care for the environment and animals etc. and want a good job etc. Michael Jackson is a prime example of that.

You all talk a lot about caring for the environment and stuff, but its pointless if your going be arrogant about it. Which is certainly the way its coming across.

One way of helping the world is to get a good job and donate as much money as you can to charities for certain causes. Its no good just sitting on your ass and talking about saving the planet.

Michael made himself a success and was able to give million and millions to charity and draw awareness to certain causes.

What a great post! Thank you for that. I am not a materialistic person at all. But I know that money is just a tool and it can be used for good and for bad reason. We live in material world and we have to deal with material matters the best way we can. We have to find a good balance between material and non material.
Michael was a very good example of a person who used his own success and talent for healing the World. Sitting on asses beside computer screen 24/7 and waiting to die does not help to heal this world one bit. Michael had HTW foundation which is pretty material thing and he put LOTS of money in it to help kids.
There are many ppl in this world who need help. There are many kids simply starving every day and have no parents.

I wonder what makes some ppl think that doing nothing and waiting to die automatically will bring them to the same place where Michael is? What makes you think that way? I would not be so sure about it.

I understand that so many of ppl are still grieving me included.
Some of those who is grieving over "MJ/husband" should ask themselves: was Michael available for them as husband/boyfriend whatever... when he was alive? The answer is: No he was not. He was not available physically for 99.999% of fans. Living in such a fantasy (husband/boyfriend) sounds like some ppl are just far away from the reality. Michael used to receive tons of love letters from girls and none of them became his wife.

I do believe in God, I believe that he is even closer to each fan in spirit now than he was in physical body.
"Joining him" is a sweet idea. Just do not be surprised when you cross this line there will be no Michael available just like he was not available when he was in physical world.
It is just my assumptions, but everybody is free to have their own. We do not know how all of this works.

But I assume that by doing something like just HE DID being here gives a good chance to see him in another world. Sitting in front of the computer and doing nothing for kids , for this world etc , waiting just to die and "join him" decreases this possibility significantly I believe. Committing suicide I think just kills this chance for ever.
There are many levels in universe where souls go after physical life. Similar will go to similar. This is what I believe.
Ppl who still continue being in such a deep dipression shuld try to find somebody to love. Do you know how to love another person, regular person, not perfect just regular, not a Hollywood star, an icon, a legend? Maybe some ppl just should learn how to do it and life will get better finally?
Michael once said: Go love your neighbor which means to me "find somebody to love". Anybody tried? Did anybody take this message seriosely? Does not look like...

I hope everybody will be finally all right in this thread.

EDITED: I suffered from a very bad depression during my life time. I went through 2 very heavy medical treatments. My emotional pain used to transform to a physical pain (still does sometimes but I know how to deal with it). I stayed one moth in the hospital just for that (migraine and muscles pain) and they used give me heavy drugs trough IV. It was horrible, I thought I was dying slowly. Then I learned how to keep the balance. Medications do not help really. If they help it is a temporarily effect but it is OK to take them for a short time. What really helps is to cut yourself off from any negative emotions. Yoga and meditations help. Moving to another place like I did, helps as well. Finding friends and somebody to talk to helps . Good doctors help as well. Having a baby helps the most. I did ALL of it. My baby changed my life. Kids are like angels. They have a healing power.


Take care.
 
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The worst thing someone can say is get over him, move on. They don't get it. Time. Time is not a friend but the enemy. Time for me, has no meaning. It is more time away from my love. It is the years I await to be with my love again. My day does not hold 24hours, for I do not sleep. It is continuous days lost in purgatory and I am low on gas.

I feel sorry for those who ask how I am. They care for my well being but do want to hear of my pain. It is too hard for them. I just tell them, "I am fine", for it is all they can handle. And if I don't, I hear, "Get over it. It gets better with time. He would want you to move on and be happy, and oh I will talk to you later." ...Yup, I am fine.

My pillow is now my best friend. It comforts my head when I close my eyes and try to slumber. It holds my endless tears without passing judgment. It quiets my screams so my neighbors don't think I have completely lost it. My pillow takes each blow and hit when the anger inside me tries to break free the stuffing inside of it. I can hug it, as it listens to me tell about my shattered heart. It doesn't tell me to move on, or about time, or what a hot mess my hair is. It gives me space when I am feeling stronger and want to venture out of my bed and it waits for me and catches me when I am at my breaking point. My pillow is my best friend.

Hopefully in time, I will be ready to move on for that's what my love would have wanted. But for now, I am fine.
 
Billie, do you know how much we worry about you? Every day you come on here, you're just so sad and it breaks my heart. Yes, I know Michael's death has changed this world a lot because he was more than just a normal human being and music has died with him but committing suicide will so not help you because Michael doesn't want you to hurt yourself. Are you EVER going to get better? Please, Billie, I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just saying that you can't be sad all the time. Listen to his music if you want. You have us to talk to!
 
Billie, do you know how much we worry about you? Every day you come on here, you're just so sad and it breaks my heart. Yes, I know Michael's death has changed this world a lot because he was more than just a normal human being and music has died with him but committing suicide will so not help you because Michael doesn't want you to hurt yourself. Are you EVER going to get better? Please, Billie, I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just saying that you can't be sad all the time. Listen to his music if you want. You have us to talk to!

Don't worry, :hug: I am not planning on killing myself but if I were to die I don't think I would care. I just keep wondering when I will wake up and be glad to be alive again? When will I have something to look forward to? I don't know how long I can go on living like this with no joy or happiness in my life. Everyone keeps saying it will get easier, but for me it hasn't even begun to yet. Sorry for the boring post, I know mine are always the same. It is a comfort to be able to be honest rather than pretending to be okay.
 
Hey Billie Jean,

I'm not there with you every day and I only know the words that you post here, but to me it seems you have maybe gotten a little better since say 6 or 9 months ago? Even if it's just a tiny bit easier, that is something and shows you that progress is possible. I don't know if you might say you feel the same, but to me your posts seem less dark, and you now say that you are committed to staying alive until it is your time, which is wonderful.

I'm not going to tell you to "get over him" because I think that in order to heal you will have to think about him and your emotions, and of course what fan could ever really "get over" someone as wonderful as Michael? I know I always want to feel that love.

Also you said that you love Michael as a spouse, and I believe you when you say that. I still think it is possible to heal your heart, as people do when they lose their husband or wife or partner, maybe not quickly, but they can eventually live happily again. I'm sure they never lose the love they had for their spouse, but they can find joy in life again and maybe even fall in love with someone else. It might seem impossible now, but maybe if you keep your mind open to the possibility of feeling better down the road, it could happen! In the meantime I'm glad you feel safe sharing your feelings here. We're here for you. :huggy:
 
Please... anyone who is having thoughts of "joining Michael", please get help. Last year was a very hard year for me, too... and I will admit that when Michael died, that pretty much broke the camel's back for me and '09. I went to the ER and asked them to send me to a mental health treatment center. I stayed there for a whole week, and was given the proper medication.

Now, after some time, I wouldn't even think of disappointing Michael by doing something like harming myself for him. He would never ever want his fans to feel this way, and it is painful for him to imagine.

There is nothing wrong with how you are feeling. Michael was a very special being, and he loved his fans so, so much. If you must, do what I did and check yourself into a similar clinic. It saved my life, and I knew Michael supported and 'nudged' my decision the entire time. :hug:

Please don't take this as a lecture. I was in your shoes at one time. :heart:
 
The worst thing someone can say is get over him, move on. They don't get it. Time. Time is not a friend but the enemy. Time for me, has no meaning. It is more time away from my love. It is the years I await to be with my love again. My day does not hold 24hours, for I do not sleep. It is continuous days lost in purgatory and I am low on gas.

I feel sorry for those who ask how I am. They care for my well being but do want to hear of my pain. It is too hard for them. I just tell them, "I am fine", for it is all they can handle. And if I don't, I hear, "Get over it. It gets better with time. He would want you to move on and be happy, and oh I will talk to you later." ...Yup, I am fine.

My pillow is now my best friend. It comforts my head when I close my eyes and try to slumber. It holds my endless tears without passing judgment. It quiets my screams so my neighbors don't think I have completely lost it. My pillow takes each blow and hit when the anger inside me tries to break free the stuffing inside of it. I can hug it, as it listens to me tell about my shattered heart. It doesn't tell me to move on, or about time, or what a hot mess my hair is. It gives me space when I am feeling stronger and want to venture out of my bed and it waits for me and catches me when I am at my breaking point. My pillow is my best friend.

Hopefully in time, I will be ready to move on for that's what my love would have wanted. But for now, I am fine.

you're definitely right about people asking how someone is doing. it's usually a fake question.
 
Its quite possible to both care for the environment and animals etc. and want a good job etc. Michael Jackson is a prime example of that.

You all talk a lot about caring for the environment and stuff, but its pointless if your going be arrogant about it. Which is certainly the way its coming across.

One way of helping the world is to get a good job and donate as much money as you can to charities for certain causes. Its no good just sitting on your ass and talking about saving the planet.

Michael made himself a success and was able to give million and millions to charity and draw awareness to certain causes.

The way to help the environment or the world is to change our own behaviour toward it, and too other human beings, giving to charity does nothing, to help, we have lots of charities helping starving people or the environment yet more starvation and more pollution than ever before, that is because many charities are corrupt and controlled and the money does not go to where it should.

Be the change you want to see in the world as Michael would say
 
You said it very well. Most people are materialistic person and mostly cares for themself only. I never was and that is why I'm always left behind by my peers. While most people care about having a good job, good life, good relatioships for themself, I care about the planet, the enviroment and the animals!
I really do wish there are more people who are not selfish and pays more attention to what is going on with the world rather than just being wrap around their own lifes. If there are more people like that, then maybe the world will have the chance to survive from all the pollution and destruction that human cause!

very good post. I agree.
 
Hey Billie Jean,

I'm not there with you every day and I only know the words that you post here, but to me it seems you have maybe gotten a little better since say 6 or 9 months ago? Even if it's just a tiny bit easier, that is something and shows you that progress is possible. I don't know if you might say you feel the same, but to me your posts seem less dark, and you now say that you are committed to staying alive until it is your time, which is wonderful.

I'm not going to tell you to "get over him" because I think that in order to heal you will have to think about him and your emotions, and of course what fan could ever really "get over" someone as wonderful as Michael? I know I always want to feel that love.

Also you said that you love Michael as a spouse, and I believe you when you say that. I still think it is possible to heal your heart, as people do when they lose their husband or wife or partner, maybe not quickly, but they can eventually live happily again. I'm sure they never lose the love they had for their spouse, but they can find joy in life again and maybe even fall in love with someone else. It might seem impossible now, but maybe if you keep your mind open to the possibility of feeling better down the road, it could happen! In the meantime I'm glad you feel safe sharing your feelings here. We're here for you. :huggy:

Thank you, Janine. :huggy: But I am far from fine. I just needed to let my random thoughts out, I guess. Sorry. I am sad, angry, lonely, scared, depressed, pissed off, negative, numb, tired, tearful, and every feeling in between. I was more or less just stating my experiences, thoughts and opinions on how I feel when I hear those comments and or sayings. Oh, I am far from fine, but in my experiences, it is much easier to lie to those who can not handle nor really even care how I truly feel.

And, yes, Michael was like a husband to me because I love him so unconditionally. And he is still the only one that I fantasize about. He is the only one that I want to love me and hold me at night. I see his face everyday when I close my eyes, and I miss him even more. I see attractive men when I am out, but no one compares to my handsome Michael. He was always the only man for me, and I don't think that will ever change. I guess I don't want to love again. I choose to be miserable for the rest of my life!

Edit: Thank you all for your caring thoughts, comments and advice.
 
That's not the way to live..........

Go travel around the World and you'll find that most people in the World are worse off then you!!!!!
 
Sorry you are feeling so low. :better:I don't have the words to make you feel better.:( I know Michael would want you to smile once again. I feel the same way. I am not suicidal, or anything. However I have thought, "what would the world be like without me?" But those are only temporary. I know God and Michael would want me to be happy. I know that there are people worse off than me. I am greatful for what I have, and can only try to better myself. I have been feeling empty, alone, numb, hurt, and sometimes crazy. My depression has kicked in now. Even my hubby (he's a fan) has noticed my change. I didn't eat for ages when Michael died! I stopped laughing as much, my perssonality changed, and I stopped writing poetry. I was sick for the first few days..like throwing up. I still feel like my soul was ripped from my body..and now the world seems colorless and dull. I have dreams of Michael every now and again..but I wake up in the morning and feel a little sad. It's gotten to the point to where I am getting to doctor's appointment to get something for my depression. :(More than likely I'll have to get back on anti-depressant pills. I have other personal problems as well. Hugs to you billie jean, and to all of you who feel upset.
 
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IMO... I think the person who started this thread and anyone who agrees with him/her needs professional help!
 
Thank you, Janine. :huggy: But I am far from fine. I just needed to let my random thoughts out, I guess. Sorry. I am sad, angry, lonely, scared, depressed, pissed off, negative, numb, tired, tearful, and every feeling in between. I was more or less just stating my experiences, thoughts and opinions on how I feel when I hear those comments and or sayings. Oh, I am far from fine, but in my experiences, it is much easier to lie to those who can not handle nor really even care how I truly feel.

And, yes, Michael was like a husband to me because I love him so unconditionally. And he is still the only one that I fantasize about. He is the only one that I want to love me and hold me at night. I see his face everyday when I close my eyes, and I miss him even more. I see attractive men when I am out, but no one compares to my handsome Michael. He was always the only man for me, and I don't think that will ever change. I guess I don't want to love again. I choose to be miserable for the rest of my life!

Edit: Thank you all for your caring thoughts, comments and advice.

aaww..BillieJean...you know I am ALWAYS here for you....:hug:.....we ALL care how you feel. I wish I had a magic wand to help you feel better..unfortunately I dont..:no:.....but....I am always here to listen when you need a shoulder..:hug:
 
There is a suipport section here, I dont think it's good for you to think like this, you know michael would want you to be happy and live your life and make michael proud by helping to continue his work.
I agree.

*Billie Jean* for a while after his passing i felt the world should stop. How can we go on with MJ? but then you have to realize that's not how things work and turn negative thoughts into positive ones. He wouldn't want you to be so miserable, this is the same person who said he wanted fireworks at his funeral. Remember his message, keep him in your heart and love hims always, that's all you can really do.
 
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