A little story about Joe Jackson

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

are you sure that wanting to have a different relative doesn't equate to hating the original relative?

Many of them are gold diggers, many of them treated him miserably, that's why I said that!

 

[144000]

^^^^to be honest..i don't see anyone who wasn't that way toward Michael, except his children. now i know some might say they see an exception or more, but i honestly don't see it that way..
i'm guessing that's why he had children, so, he wouldn't be so alone. i can appreciate him saying that he'd slit his wrists if it weren't for children in the world. i'm glad he had his children.

 

[blueocean]

I don't hate the Jackson family either and I don't support some of the hateful things that are said in this thread (like comparing Joe to Hitler, that is just outrageous). I even defended some of the Jackson family members (Jackie, Janet, Katherine) before when I felt they were attacked unfairly. I am merely responding to your claim that "Michael never spoke bad about his family" - which is not the same as 'bashing' btw - and showed you that he did.

I am sure Michael loved his family. Because they are family. That doesn't mean that he liked them, trusted them or stayed in touch with them. He wouldn't call them out in public because he was too kind and classy for that, but as you can see in my previous post he did complain about them privately. Sure, every family has disagreements but if you looked at this from a neutral perspective you would see how disfunctional (sp.) this family really is. Let's point out some facts:

1. Joe cheated on his wife and has an illegitimate child with another woman.
2. Joe physically and verbally abused his children.
3. Michael had to perform at strip clubs at the age of 5 - although his mother is a strict Jehova's Witness.
4. Randy and Jermain had kids with the same woman.
5. Jermaine got two women pregnant at the same time.
6. Randy is a convicted fraud and got Michael in big financial trouble.
7. La Toya accused her brother of paedophilia, her father of sexual abuse and her mother of trying to kill her.
8. Katherine binded her three young grandchildren to a contract with a porn producer.
9. Janet Jackson admitted on national television she hadn't seen her brother Michael for years, meaning she had never visited her baby nephew Michael jr. (who was then a toddler) either.
10. The family is heavily divided on several issues and chooses to fight its wars on Twitter, causing a division among Michael's fans.

All of the above FACTS make any comparison to a "normal family" useless. The Jacksons are not a normal family and the above mentioned facts are more than just "disagreements". They're enough to tear any family apart. I just can't believe the Jacksons are as close as they say they are and I will take Michael's word that they pretend to be tight-knit to protect their public image. Again, I'm sure Michael loved his family - being the loving person that he was - but he clearly distanced himself from his family in the last decades (and some family members publicly complained about that). I don't blame him.

The jackson family is not perfect I did not say they were your typical normal family, and michael did not hate on his family who do you think michael turned to during the trial the jackson family and they were there for him out of love and not for money as some of you say, no matter what crisis it was michael and the jackson family were always united, despite all the problems they had. that was not for public show. and now the jackson family will fight til justice is done for michael and yes there is a difference of opinions every family have that.

 

[StacyJ]

The jackson family is not perfect I did not say they were your typical normal family, and michael did not hate on his family who do you think michael turned to during the trial the jackson family and they were there for him out of love and not for money as some of you say, no matter what crisis it was michael and the jackson family were always united, despite all the problems they had. that was not for public show. and now the jackson family will fight til justice is done for michael and yes there is a difference of opinions every family have that.

How are they fighting for justice, when you have certain members going around calling him an addict in denial? It sounds like to me that they want Murray to be acquitted

 

[Angelofmj]

I don't hate The Jackson family but all of them make sick, Michael didn't deserve to be around that crap the created and he didn't deserve to have such a father like that.
Too bad we can't choose our relatives!

being that you hate all the jacksons does that include michael's three children?
there are worse relatives to have than the jacksons im sure!
they arent the devil incarnate as some of you are keen to believe.

 

[blueocean]

IF they knew that Michael had problems with prescription drugs, WHY were Katherine, Joe, Janet and the brothers harrassing him to do a FAMILY tour? If he was that bad off, why didn't they force him to rehab? You know why, because he was NOT an addict. They know it as well as we do. You don't want an "addict" to do a tour, as Michael's family was badgering him to do. You can bet if Michael had agreed to do a tour with them, NONE of this "addict" talk would ever have been mentioned. Have you forgotten that the Jacksons released statements that refuted claims from the tabloids that their were interventions going on? Why go to the media and claim that Michael was an "addict" AFTER he was MURDERED? No other family in HISTORY has done what Michael's family has done-make the victim be the culprit and basically give the murderer a "pass: and call him the fall guy. What family does that? Can anyone think of ANYONE who has ever done that when a loved one was MURDERED? I can't and I am no "spring chicken".

It has been mention by michael himself about being on pain meds I am sure there were periods that michael was clean and michael brothers wanted to tour with him raymone bain dont recall michael taking drugs as being dependent on them, it's the team after raymond bain that brought the likes of murray and all the other doctors were giving michael medication, and thome was keeping his family and others away that michael loved , michael said so in the telephone interview with his spiritual advisor

 

[twinklEE]

How are they fighting for justice, when you have certain members going around calling him an addict in denial? It sounds like to me that they want Murray to be acquitted

exactly..

 

[xo_lola_xo]

Murray's defence can actually just play clips of his family members saying he was addicted in interviews and just blame Michael's death on him and Murray can walk. Seriously. I know there is an autopsy result to say otherwise but I'm somewhat sure the jury can be convinced it was MJ's fault because his own brothers and sister are saying "he was addicted - that's heavy.."

 

[chanel05]

I agree with you, I see something wrong with this hate, there are a few jackson family fans left on this site many have moved on or come here sometime to see what they are saying to defend the jackson family out of respect for michael who loved his family and would not approved of the one spreading lies to get others to hate on the jackson family, that is what we see the motive are why else would you go to a section dedicated to the jackson that reads Love the jackson? want the most up-to-date news on your favorite jackson family member? This is where you can discuss and post anything related to the jackson family, and then you read some lies being spread about them and the bashing makes no sense cause what the bashing is over is a bunch of lies and many times the lies have been pointed out, It's like a mission to try and get the jackson family fans to turn on them but that will never happen with the majority of us fans we love michael jackson and the jackson family we want let these lies take our support away from the jackson family the brothers fan base have growned sense michael passing and is still growing many fans dont want to hear this hate brought on by lies we defened michael from these type of lies and we will defend the jackson family from these lies also. we know michael would want that, michael never hated his family or talked bad about them but always said he loved them even joe. and no family is perfect.

N its crazy cause they called me a troll n its actaully them. I think some of them need professional help honestly.... im sorry but there is no way in hell i would constantly post in a forum about people i dont like based off of info i dont know. it kills me how most of the so-called FACTS they have ARENT TRUE!!!!! I pointed it out many holes in their "facts" but yet im the dumb blind one...... yea right. if they lied on mike all these years, then what makes them think the media isnt lying on them also. i honestly think that the media has something against the WHOLE jackson family and always will. n mike wasnt about hate he was about L.O.V.E............ Ive said this before but, 98% of what ALL OF US say is speculation, not facts. so what makes their speculation so much better than mine?????

 

[chanel05]

The bottomline is that this is a DISCUSSION board. Everyone does NOT have to AGREE about Michael's family. It is really quite pathetic that some people are more interested in protecting Michael's family than they are him. Why is it alright to agree with them that Michael was a so-called "addict" or that he was in "denial". I and others DON"T agree with that assessment. Why should fans be banned for NOT agreeing with what the Jackson family is saying? Btw, Michael would not agree with his family revealing things to the media about his PRIVATE life. They didn't do it while he was alive, why do it now that he was MURDERED? Again, I am tired of the EXCUSES that some people are giving for THEIR defense of Michael's family, and when others don't agree they are taken to task for that. Again, this is a DISCUSSION board in Michael's honor, not his family's honor.

I have ALWAYS been a fan and defender of the Jackson family;however, since Michael was MURDERED, they have shown a side that I have never seen. They are NOW willing to discuss Michael's PRIVATE life, when they wouldn't have dared to do that while he was alive. WHY NOW, of all times? There is absolutely no excuse or reason for Janet, Joe and others to do what they have said since Michael was murdered by Murray. If anything, they should have done the complete opposite and shut up. The ironic thing is that even radio DJ's who trashed Michael when he was alive are noticing the things that Joe, Janet and other family members are doing and saying since Michael's murder. They are wondering why this sudden rush to tell private things about Michael. I have NEVER, EVER heard a family do what the Jacksons have done when a loved one has passed/murdered; especially, the MOST FAMOUS PERSON IN THE WORLD-Michael Jackson. There are NO excuses, NONE!

nobody said you have to agree, just not spew hate

 

[chanel05]

Hi. *waves* If you have a problem with how staff run things round here then put it in a PM. Not sure if you're familiar with the rules, but just giving you a heads up.

The bitterness in here is really something. Sad, to say the least.

it really is. n i dnt undertsand how you can be like that over people you dont know

 

[chanel05]

The jackson family are not putting michael down, there were responding to what they knew that michael had problems with prescription medication (drugs) not street drugs I am a fan of michael I get what they are saying all this will be the center of the trial when it start and these other doctors beside murray are investigated and the pharmacy they used. for me I call these doctor enablers and they should all be found guility. michael is still /was a wonderful man and no one in the jackson family is attacking michael you have got it wrong they love michael.

they dont understand that and thats why everything said by a family member is exagerated. not just some on this board, but many people have this unrealistic picture of whatever celebrity they like in their head and when somebody says something that goes against that it, they get angry.

 

[OnOurWay]

^^^and you're one of those people(On Our Way). while i don't espouse hate..i still stand by the fact that the family hasn't proven that they qualify to know the intricacies of Michael's life. i can seperate that from hating his family.

and you sound like you believe whatever certain family members say about Michael. there's no proof that them being family, guarantees they know about MJ, personally. You believe what you choose to believe that is on the tv screen, said by whatever family members you choose to believe, so that smacks of hypocrisy.

having asid that..i don't hate this family.

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I never said I believe EVERYTHING the family members say, I never said I don't, but I think it's ridiculous for fans to think they know more than anyone in the family. It's like someone who has never spent time with your family saying that they know what goes on. Umm, it doesn't work like that. :ermm:

 

[blueocean]

Murray's defence can actually just play clips of his family members saying he was addicted in interviews and just blame Michael's death on him and Murray can walk. Seriously. I know there is an autopsy result to say otherwise but I'm somewhat sure the jury can be convinced it was MJ's fault because his own brothers and sister are saying "he was addicted - that's heavy.."

why would they have to play clips of the jackson family saying he was a addicted? when they have all the evidence provided by these different doctors that wrote all these medication for him constantly they are enablers why you think the doctors are/were investigated and the pharmacy they used? and then the medications that LADP took from his home. I dont blame michael I blame the doctors and his team at that time.

 

[chanel05]

I don't hate the Jackson family either and I don't support some of the hateful things that are said in this thread (like comparing Joe to Hitler, that is just outrageous). I even defended some of the Jackson family members (Jackie, Janet, Katherine) before when I felt they were attacked unfairly. I am merely responding to your claim that "Michael never spoke bad about his family" - which is not the same as 'bashing' btw - and showed you that he did.

I am sure Michael loved his family. Because they are family. That doesn't mean that he liked them, trusted them or stayed in touch with them. He wouldn't call them out in public because he was too kind and classy for that, but as you can see in my previous post he did complain about them privately. Sure, every family has disagreements but if you looked at this from a neutral perspective you would see how disfunctional (sp.) this family really is. Let's point out some facts:

1. Joe cheated on his wife and has an illegitimate child with another woman.
2. Joe physically and verbally abused his children.
3. Michael had to perform at strip clubs at the age of 5 - although his mother is a strict Jehova's Witness.
4. Randy and Jermain had kids with the same woman.
5. Jermaine got two women pregnant at the same time.
6. Randy is a convicted fraud and got Michael in big financial trouble.
7. La Toya accused her brother of paedophilia, her father of sexual abuse and her mother of trying to kill her.
8. Katherine binded her three young grandchildren to a contract with a porn producer.
9. Janet Jackson admitted on national television she hadn't seen her brother Michael for years, meaning she had never visited her baby nephew Michael jr. (who was then a toddler) either.
10. The family is heavily divided on several issues and chooses to fight its wars on Twitter, causing a division among Michael's fans.

All of the above FACTS make any comparison to a "normal family" useless. The Jacksons are not a normal family and the above mentioned facts are more than just "disagreements". They're enough to tear any family apart. I just can't believe the Jacksons are as close as they say they are and I will take Michael's word that they pretend to be tight-knit to protect their public image. Again, I'm sure Michael loved his family - being the loving person that he was - but he clearly distanced himself from his family in the last decades (and some family members publicly complained about that). I don't blame him.

i dnt believe they are so-tight either. maybe certain members talk to each other more, thats about it. n the jackson family arent "normal" because they are an entertainment family and they live under circumstances that most families dont. n also they are a large family and MOST large families are not on one page either, whether you are in entertainment or not. many families have many problems. i know families that will make the jacksons look like saints LOL. also if all of your families business was minipulated in the media for over 30yrs, yours would look disfunctional also.

1.thats wrong but it happens to many women EVERYDAY. this reminds me of the situation between my mom and my dad, he doesnt have an outside child though. but SHE STAYED and didnt leave and even her kids used to beg her to divorce him. i also understand that it is hard to let go love after all of those years but is has to come to a point where enough is enough.
2.many kids growing up during that time were treated like tht. especially black families. its how joes generation was raised n its how he raised his kids. it was very common back then. does it make it right, no. but its not like only joeseph treated his kids like that.
3.yea thats not good. a child shouldnt have been in that enviroment at a young age. but the funny thing is that I HAVE NEVER heard mj complain about being at the strip club LOL but he would talk about him wanting to be a regular child.
4.thats just nasty. n tht had to cause a rift in the family for a while.
5.yea, jermaine and randy did. but its not like tht isnt common. many people have kids the same age by different women it doesnt make it right though.
6.i talked about this in another thread. do you know how many people convict the same fruad randy did. all randy did was not list a vehicle he had when he was filing bankruptcy. which means he was hiding something from the creditors. thats not good but its not bad either. many people commict welfare fruad because they dnt report all of their employment or possessions when they try to recieve food stamps or section 8. some get caught some dont. also all the people who cheat the irs every year when it comes to file taxes. i thought he didnt mess up mjs finances but was about to before mj stopped him. then he got mad and sued him or something like that. correct me if im wrong. but its still wrong either way.
7. latoya was in a abusive relationship with that guy at the time who was threating her and her family. before and after she met him she didnt make those outrageous claims. also this happens in families but just not on national tv.
8. thats just wrong, there is no way around that. i still dnt understand why she even gave him(guy she is in contract with) the time of day.
9.janet said she didnt see him on the oprah interview in like 97 or 98. then on the larry king show in like 99 or 2000, she said she had seen him. she also said tht she had gave prince a computer for a gift n some interview around tht time. n that was so long ago. they all say tht they dont see each other as much as they should. also she said she didnt see prince because when mj invited the family up there she was recording and couldnt get away.
10. just because they are family doesnt mean that they are gonna agree on everything. also the fans dnt have to pay attention to their twitters. WE CHOOSE TO.

honestly, i dnt agree with everything thts stated above, thats not what im saying. im just pointing out that the things that you listed are not as uncommon as people try to make it seem. actually most of it is common. the only difference is that they are famous and others are not. does it still make it right, NO and im not defending them either.

srry for the long post

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

I said I don't hate them, HIS FATHER, SOME OF HIS BROTHERS MAKE ME SICK! And I'm not happy for what Katherine did in that infamous intervew
I'd never say anything wrong about his children, they are angels and they gavfe to his father the happiness he was needing so badly.

 

[pilinlim]

I love the "that's the way black families used to treat children". There is an enormous difference between the way black kids used to be treated back in the day and the way Joe (mal)treated his children. There's a huge difference.

Joe outright maltreated/abused/tortured his most famous son verbally, sexually (by having sex with women in front of him), emotionally and physically. He exploited Michael to the maximum while treating him as garbage. Joe saw Michael as a slave and himself as the slave master and his son got that exact treatment.

If Michael, as a five year old child dared to cry after seeing his father spending the night almost raping women, Joe would shake his son violently while choking him with all his strenght. Even if Michael was sleeping and exhausted, Joe would enter the house, go to his room and demand, yelling and throwing kicks, that he opened the door of his room in 5 seconds otherwise he would kill his son. As soon as he opened the door, Joe angrily and violently cornered him into signing a contract without even allowing him to read it under threats of physical abuse [read the Schumley tapes]. If, if, if, if, if...God knows what Michael went through with that father. These are two stories out of millions of them. He simply maltreated Michael to the maximum and not just as a child but until the very last month of his life (remember what Joe was doing to Michael as of June?).

 

[StaceyMJ]

nobody said you have to agree, just not spew hate

I have to say this is the only thing I have advocated in this thread. I'm no more a fan of the Jackson family than most of you in here. It's just frustrating trying to keep a level of somewhat decency here. Can we please try?

 

[chanel05]

I love the "that's the way black families used to treat children". There is an enormous difference between the way black kids used to be treated back in the day and the way Joe (mal)treated his children. There's a huge difference.

Joe outright maltreated/abused/tortured his most famous son verbally, sexually (by having sex with women in front of him), emotionally and physically. He exploited Michael to the maximum while treating him as garbage. Joe saw Michael as a slave and himself as the slave master and his son got that exact treatment.

If Michael, as a five year old child dared to cry after seeing his father spending the night almost raping women, Joe would shake his son violently while choking him with all his strenght. Even if Michael was sleeping and exhausted, Joe would enter the house, go to his room and demand, yelling and throwing kicks, that he opened the door of his room in 5 seconds otherwise he would kill his son. As soon as he opened the door, Joe angrily and violently cornered him into signing a contract without even allowing him to read it under threats of physical abuse [read the Schumley tapes]. If, if, if, if, if...God knows what Michael went through with that father. These are two stories out of millions of them. He simply maltreated Michael to the maximum and not just as a child but until the very last month of his life (remember what Joe was doing to Michael as of June?).

no sweetheart, alot of people say that because its TRUE. idk what race you are but alot of peple were treated like that growing up during that time. n there were also some other races who treated there kids the same. but go ask a black person that grew up the same time the jacksons did and also some who grew up the same time joe did. n they will tell you thats how they were treated. now some kids eventually get over it and some dont cause it scars them for life. it depends on the child. many kids were treated like that growing up and thats why you have all of these child abuse laws in effect today, even though back then it was considered abuse.

 

[chanel05]

I have to say this is the only thing I have advocated in this thread. I'm no more a fan of the Jackson family than most of you in here. It's just frustrating trying to keep a level of somewhat decency here. Can we please try?

yea thats my only problem. i just hate how they spew hate and if you say something different then youre, blind, an idiot or something like that. its okay to not agree but we can do it civilly. i resect everyones opinion in this forum without attacking them so why cant some of them??? n i also hate it because they remind me of the people who always spew hate towards mj for no reason. n i thought as being mj fans, we would know not to believe everything that we read about someone.

 

[Soundmind]

why would they have to play clips of the jackson family saying he was a addicted? when they have all the evidence provided by these different doctors that wrote all these medication for him constantly they are enablers why you think the doctors are/were investigated and the pharmacy they used? and then the medications that LADP took from his home. I dont blame michael I blame the doctors and his team at that time.

the nerve you have. Doctors ? did you even read the search warrants issued to raid Murray's clinic and house? family members told investigators MJ was on drugs , was using Prince, Grace and Frank's names as aliases to get drugs and the police investigators found no evidence of that hence no such charges filed against Murray.

Are you really interested in the truth & justice? if so ,you would have known by now all the doctors have been investigated and no one was charged or even sanctioned regardless of the willingness the investigators showed to do so based on what his own family has told them.
How I know? the investigators did state in the search warrants members of his family were " the sources for a possible addiction and drug dependency" , Absence of charges of prescribing to an addict, enabling an addict speaks volume right? They did state the investigation of other doctors concluded no one did anything wrong , did you know that?

Don't even reply. You can try as much as you want to convince people he was an addict and you want "justice" to be done. bottom line all the Jacksons care about is money and they will not get a penny from AEG . As long as they get nothing I and the majority will feel great .I not only hate them, I sometimes feel they are not even on human level any more. That's how low I think of them and many do, they should blame no one but themselves. How low can one be to sign a contract on behalf of MJ's kids with a porn producer?

At the end of the day , only MJ's parents, siblings and their insiders and associates like Leonard Rowe, Majestic and Oxman will testify to MJ's so-called drug addiction
the defence unlike in similar cases will call members of the victims' family to help the defendant not the victim . I'm sure no prosecution in his/her right mind will call Katherine to testify and humanize MJ like mothers usually do. The DA probably watched her interview with Oprah and he knows by now Katherine will be a disaster on the stand, I will be extremist and say she will be another Janet Arvizo and destroy their case. No mother will relate to her, no mother would feel her lose especially when all she offers to say is " I'm only saying what would get me a settlement from AEG" . Regardless I feel Chernoff is smart enough to call her . She will be a nightmare to the prosecution and they know it , that's why the charges are not as harsh as they should have been. So don't talk about justice , the only justice the jacksons are seeking is money, money they felt MJ should have left them in his will and since he did not they are determined to get as much as they could even if the outcome is Murray's freedom

 

[twinklEE]

I hate the fact that several Jackson family fanatics are getting away with implying Michael was a drug addict, while hero worshiping that so called 'family'.

 

[twinklEE]

the nerve you have. Doctors ? did you even read the search warrants issued to raid Murray's clinic and house? family members told investigators MJ was on drugs , was using Prince, Grace and Frank's names as aliases to get drugs and the police investigators found no evidence of that hence no such charges filed against Murray.

Are you really interested in the truth & justice? if so ,you would have known by now all the doctors have been investigated and no one was charged or even sanctioned regardless of the willingness the investigators showed to do so based on what his own family has told them.
How I know? the investigators did state in the search warrants members of his family were " the sources for a possible addiction and drug dependency" , Absence of charges of prescribing to an addict, enabling an addict speaks volume right? They did state the investigation of other doctors concluded no one did anything wrong , did you know that?

Don't even reply. You can try as much as you want to convince people he was an addict and you want "justice" to be done. bottom line all the Jacksons care about is money and they will not get a penny from AEG . As long as they get nothing I and the majority will feel great .I not only hate them, I sometimes feel they are not even on human level any more. That's how low I think of them and many do, they should blame no one but themselves. How low can one be to sign a contract on behalf of MJ's kids with a porn producer?

At the end of the day , only MJ's parents, siblings and their insiders and associates like Leonard Rowe, Majestic and Oxman will testify to MJ's so-called drug addiction
the defence unlike in similar cases will call members of the victims' family to help the defendant not the victim . I'm sure no prosecution in his/her right mind will call Katherine to testify and humanize MJ like mothers usually do. The DA probably watched her interview with Oprah and he knows by now Katherine will be a disaster on the stand, I will be extremist and say she will be another Janet Arvizo and destroy their case. No mother will relate to her, no mother would feel her lose especially when all she offers to say is " I'm only saying what would get me a settlement from AEG" . Regardless I feel Chernoff is smart enough to call her . She will be a nightmare to the prosecution and they know it , that's why the charges are not as harsh as they should have been. So don't talk about justice , the only justice the jacksons are seeking is money, money they felt MJ should have left them in his will and since he did not they are determined to get as much as they could even if the outcome is Murray's freedom

:clapping::clapping::clapping:

 

[blankyluvdoodoo]

I hate the fact that several Jackson family fanatics are getting away with implying Michael was a drug addict, while hero worshiping that so called 'family'.

so true ,getting annoying as hell ,having opinion is one thing and repeating things like broken record is another thing that to without any fact and proof.

the nerve you have. Doctors ? did you even read the search warrants issued to raid Murray's clinic and house? family members told investigators MJ was on drugs , was using Prince, Grace and Frank's names as aliases to get drugs and the police investigators found no evidence of that hence no such charges filed against Murray.

Are you really interested in the truth & justice? if so ,you would have known by now all the doctors have been investigated and no one was charged or even sanctioned regardless of the willingness the investigators showed to do so based on what his own family has told them.
How I know? the investigators did state in the search warrants members of his family were " the sources for a possible addiction and drug dependency" , Absence of charges of prescribing to an addict, enabling an addict speaks volume right? They did state the investigation of other doctors concluded no one did anything wrong , did you know that?

Don't even reply. You can try as much as you want to convince people he was an addict and you want "justice" to be done. bottom line all the Jacksons care about is money and they will not get a penny from AEG . As long as they get nothing I and the majority will feel great .I not only hate them, I sometimes feel they are not even on human level any more. That's how low I think of them and many do, they should blame no one but themselves. How low can one be to sign a contract on behalf of MJ's kids with a porn producer?

At the end of the day , only MJ's parents, siblings and their insiders and associates like Leonard Rowe, Majestic and Oxman will testify to MJ's so-called drug addiction
the defence unlike in similar cases will call members of the victims' family to help the defendant not the victim . I'm sure no prosecution in his/her right mind will call Katherine to testify and humanize MJ like mothers usually do. The DA probably watched her interview with Oprah and he knows by now Katherine will be a disaster on the stand, I will be extremist and say she will be another Janet Arvizo and destroy their case. No mother will relate to her, no mother would feel her lose especially when all she offers to say is " I'm only saying what would get me a settlement from AEG" . Regardless I feel Chernoff is smart enough to call her . She will be a nightmare to the prosecution and they know it , that's why the charges are not as harsh as they should have been. So don't talk about justice , the only justice the jacksons are seeking is money, money they felt MJ should have left them in his will and since he did not they are determined to get as much as they could even if the outcome is Murray's freedom

:clap: :clap: i am giving u salute.

 

[OnOurWay]

Since everyone here seems to have all the answers, why don't some of you go testify in court?

 

[xo_lola_xo]

Since everyone here seems to have all the answers, why don't some of you go testify in court?

I'm willing to bet more than half of us would if we were called. There has been enough information released to the public that show that Michael Jackson was not in fault of his death and his family have screwed him over several times with contracts.

We don't need to have lived in that house to make a judgement since facts and figures are against them.

 

[OnOurWay]

I'm willing to bet more than half of us would if we were called. There has been enough information released to the public that show that Michael Jackson was is not blame for his death and his family have screwed him over several times with contracts.

We don't need to have lived in that house to make a judgement since facts and figures are against them.

Uhh, yeah we all know that. :ermm:

And how did you acquire your "facts"? Did you get yours from the DA or coroner himself?

 

[xo_lola_xo]

Uhh, yeah we all know that. :ermm:

And how did you acquire your "facts"? Did you get yours from the DA or coroner himself?

I should have wrote "was not in fault of his death." Sorry, I had just woken up.

And how do I know?

The autopsy result, out of many options, was ruled "homicide." Not natural, accidental or suicide.

 

[JMie]

Uhh, yeah we all know that. :ermm:

And how did you acquire your "facts"? Did you get yours from the DA or coroner himself?

actually, yes. The coroner's report, to be precise.

 

[xo_lola_xo]

actually, yes. The coroner's report, to be precise.

Yeah. How many options were there? Unknown? Natural? Suicide? Accidental? and it was ruled nothing else but HOMICIDE.

I can't believe I have to say this on a MICHAEL fanclub. Since when did we put the Jackson before the Michael?