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Rasta Pasta said:
good that the brothers are doing things... saw the show once and thought i would be clamoring to see it each week....but " no"............no Michael .. no spark
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I somewhat agree with this. Every episode I saw I kept thinking "This would be so much better if Michael was here." Seeing the brothers is great but with no Michael there wasn't a spark. I still enjoyed watching the series but whenever they were in the studio, dancing, or working something I always wondered how they would be if Michael was with them.
 
you know what? to those who have a problem with the fans that don't like this show, why don't you attack TMZ? they said that america is tired of it. but i suppose that it's ok for tmz to say it, but not for fans to say it.

and i wish people would stop shooting holes in the relationship between Michael and his fans. he had great success...and some come off as jealous of it, even though they are on this site. sure there are fans that could reexamine things. but that's true of fans of any artist. being a fan of MJ is the hardest task in the world...not because of love for mj. that's easy. but, because some people seem to forget the lynching MJ received in the media, and from haters..how unprecedented it was..and therefore, fans stepped to his defense, and had to deal with ish from unlikely, as well as likely sources. and MJ was the main target. not his family. if his family received the shrapnel...MJ recieved the heat seeking missiles. and the vast majority of his fans stepped up to greet those missiles, right beside him. his family did step up, too, especially during the trial years. but MJ was the main target, because of the magnitude of his success. therefore he had special fans trying to defend him, according to the brunt of the attacks. and it seems that some on here have more fun going at those fans defending him, than they do going after the media and haters.

it's really simple. once you are in the entertainment industry, all bets are off. you have to earn your fans. and nobody has a right to force a potential fan to like an artist, or not like an artist. it doesn't matter that these are brothers. they're all individuals who volunteered to be in the industry. so, potential fans will react to them as the fans wish, as if the brothers were not brothers. if somebody decides not to like Chris Brown, that is a fan's perrogative. if the fan decides not to like Jermaine Jackson, that is the fan's perrogative. if a fan decides to love Michael Jackson, at the expense of Jermaine Jackson, that is the fan's right, as if Jermaine Jackson was Chris Brown, and the fan loves Michael, at the expense of Chris Brown. if a fan decides to love Chris Brown or Jermaine Jackson, at the expense of MIchael Jackson, that is the fan's perrogative. if it seems like the majority of fans have given the crown to Michael, at the expense of other artists, in or outside his family, it's because MJ's talent and dedication, and personality, and entire package, has earned it. that would be the case if it was Jermaine Jackson or Chris Brown in Michael's place.

it's just individuals in the industry, subject to what it is to be in the industry. family blood, or lack thereof has nothing to do with it. certainly, the family dynamic makes it more complicated, when it comes to issues of support, or lack thereof, but otherwise, the basic premise is still the same. this would all seem so elementary to me. i don't understand why it wouldn't be elementary to everyone who it doesn't seem to come across as elementary to.
 
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Look I understand that they had to do this show or the company were going to go "public" by badmouthing them to the press. I sort of think there's no point anymore. I don't think they will agree to do it.
 
i know that a cable network can afford to repeat a season of something, whether or not it is a hit.
 
vncwilliam said:
i know that a cable network can afford to repeat a season of something, whether or not it is a hit.
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business wise that's not a good idea and usually they don't. no one wants to invest in something they know is a bust.
 
nena said:
business wise that's not a good idea and usually they don't. no one wants to invest in something they know is a bust.
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well..according to TMZ, this show isn't a big enough hit to be repeated for another year..yet, the network is still offering for another season. and other cable networks have done that with shows that weren't hits in the first year. A and E is not nearly as big a network as say..NBC, in america. NBC is not a cable network. and NBC is in trouble..they're trying to keep Jay Leno, though his ten o clock show bombed.
 
vncwilliam said:
well..according to TMZ, this show isn't a big enough hit to be repeated for another year..yet, the network is still offering for another season. and other cable networks have done that with shows that weren't hits in the first year. A and E is not nearly as big a network as say..NBC, in america. NBC is not a cable network. and NBC is in trouble..they're trying to keep Jay Leno, though his ten o clock show bombed.
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"according to TMZ" :lol: i stand by what i said.
 
Datsymay said:
Isn't it funny how TMZ or any other tabloid gets importance and credibility when they attack michael's family. lol
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The show is not that popular, which is shown by the ratings. There biggest audiences was the first two episodes and it steadly dropped. You can see this trend for yourself since the forum that talks about them got far fewer hits every week after the first two aired. People are generally not interested in the Jacksons outside of Michael and maybe Janet. Which is why they couldn't sell there reality show when the first film. It was only after Michael's death that A&E picked it up. Even then, it was not a big hit.

Also, TMZ tends to be correct most of the time when it comes to that family. Especially since most family members talks directly to them.
 
Ramona122003 said:
The show is not that popular, which is shown by the ratings. There biggest audiences was the first two episodes and it steadly dropped. You can see this trend for yourself since the forum that talks about them got far fewer hits every week after the first two aired. People are generally not interested in the Jacksons outside of Michael and maybe Janet. Which is why they couldn't sell there reality show when the first film. It was only after Michael's death that A&E picked it up. Even then, it was not a big hit.

Also, TMZ tends to be correct most of the time when it comes to that family. Especially since most family members talks directly to them.
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I could not care less if the show was popular. not everything that is popular is good. I loved the show I learned a lot about the brothers, INCLUDING MJ from watching their interactions. I want them back. Please God make it happen.
 
well if they're offered another season it couldn't have been that bad. some MJ fans are just being bitter. they want all his families lives to end because unfortunately michael's did, i see people want to see the family fail and bad mouthed and that's pathetic. i wish the family luck and if the brother decide to do another season then great cause i like the show and if they don't then that's cool and i understand. i hope they focus on their music michael would like to see his brothers achieve this on their own.
 
nena said:
well if they're offered another season it couldn't have been that bad. some MJ fans are just being bitter. they want all his families lives to end because unfortunately michael's did, i see people want to see the family fail and bad mouthed and that's pathetic. i wish the family luck and if the brother decide to do another season then great cause i like the show and if they don't then that's cool and i understand. i hope they focus on their music michael would like to see his brothers achieve this on their own.
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It is really sad and it makes me thing that Mj's children are not safe with these type of fans either. Watch how they follow every move the children make and every penny they spend. God help those children,
anyway, i enjoyed the shows and wish the brothers all the best, but I really do not think they are all that desperate to get back into show business. i think they just wanted to do something for their anniversary. however, they all live separate and diverse lives away from the publics gaze and I don;t believe they want that to change.
 
Get off the 'bitter fans' trip.

don't shoot the messenger. tmz has not been made the official site by us. it's been made the news source by the owner of the site.

if anything, it's the MJ fans that are constant targets,by other fans on here, due to bitterness.

i don't care which way the brothers go. they go the way they go. if they succeed, fine. if not, so be it. and we don't know what we learned abuot MJ, from this. this is a different show, about four different people. if the show is reported as not doing that well..it's not us who own the blog sites that are doing the reporting.

it's like there is some orwellian task force on here, telling people who to be fans of, punishing people for not being their type of fan for their type of artist.

nobody is wishing anything on any entertainer, here.
 
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i said some fans so if your not bitter then that commment is not directed at you. fans who have dispensable anger towards the family know who they are.
 
nena said:
well if they're offered another season it couldn't have been that bad. some MJ fans are just being bitter. they want all his families lives to end because unfortunately michael's did, i see people want to see the family fail and bad mouthed and that's pathetic. i wish the family luck and if the brother decide to do another season then great cause i like the show and if they don't then that's cool and i understand. i hope they focus on their music michael would like to see his brothers achieve this on their own.
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vncwilliam already explain why they are most likely be given a second season. Quoting his post:

this show isn't a big enough hit to be repeated for another year..yet, the network is still offering for another season. and other cable networks have done that with shows that weren't hits in the first year

They are most likely hoping people will warm up to the show since it carries Michael's name. Which is why they are given it the benefice of a doubt, but it would most likely be on probation.

Also Datsymay, you may not care if the show is popular, but the network does. Networks don't survive on cult hits, which the show seems to be since only Jackson's fans are looking at it. Most lost interest and have moved on because to be frank, the brothers are not that interesting.

It does not help that unlike most reality shows some of the things they did and said seem very stage and unnatural. We also don't really see them in their everyday environment since they are trying to plan a tour and everyone is acting OOC, even before Michael's death. The reality show also come across as kind of pointless since it center around a tour and an album and nothing was done. My brother decided it as watching TII if Michael cancel the concert and brought a movie about him making the tour.

Those who do watch and like it do so because they feel become a little closer to Michael. They could careless if the brother succeed or not.

Btw, just because some fans here refuse to kick to kiss the Jackson's ass does not mean who are dogging them or hoping they fail. I became a fan of Michael, not his family. So, stop acting like everyone has to like them, we don't.
 
well..i guess my comment came because all i saw on this page were people discussing tmz, a and e, and reports about whether or not the show is a hit. i didn't see anyone on this page, say something to the effect of..god..i hope the show flops. so, that's why i was wondering why you commented that way.
 
In my opinion, A&E wants to continue the Jackson reality program, hoping (and probably praying) that Michael's children will one day make an appearance.

Talk about RATINGS, just think how much attention the A&E channel would garner if they were able to (really) promote an appearance by Michael's children.

Remember how much attention A&E got with their "fake" promotion regarding an appearance by Michael children. They ain't slick!
 
Big Apple2 said:
In my opinion, A&E wants to continue the Jackson reality program, hoping (and probably praying) that Michael's children will one day make an appearance.

Talk about RATINGS, just think how much attention the A&E channel would garner if they were able to (really) promote an appearance by Michael's children.

Remember how much attention A&E got with their "fake" promotion regarding an appearance by Michael children. They ain't slick!
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So true. Those children are the main focus now, the new Michael general public dont care about the others.
 
twinklEE said:
So true. Those children are the main focus now, the new Michael general public dont care about the others.
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the new public grew up in the last 15 years and do not appreciate anything other than gossip and scandals cause that was what those years were all about. they want to hear if the children are @NORMAL' that doesn't say much for the new general public. Bravo to the old general public who KNEW the talent before the scandal.
 
Datsymay said:
the new public grew up in the last 15 years and do not appreciate anything other than gossip and scandals cause that was what those years were all about. they want to hear if the children are @NORMAL' that doesn't say much for the new general public. Bravo to the old general public who KNEW the talent before the scandal.
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I'm sorry we aren't in the 70s anymore.
 
twinklEE said:
I'm sorry we aren't in the 70s anymore.
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So what is your problem? do you think Mj should be forgotten in 10 years time because he died in 2009> do you think people in the past should be forgotten for their contribution to society because they are old? Or Do you just have a problem with Mj's family.
For your information, the Jackson have always been more than just a boy band for a generation of BLACK PEOPLE who were dis enfranchised in the 70's and who looked up to them as a cultural icon. the jacksons gave hope to a lot of people of colour. they felt that if the Jackson could do it then maybe they could do it too,' So before you run off your mouth and be disrespecting The Jackson family, try and understand what those OLd fans are thying to say to you.
the Jacksons are important because they were the first and they broke the mole and made it possible for other black people to be doing what they are doing now.
You forgot to listen to Queen Latifer and Coby Bryant and Magic Johnson.
this thing was not just an American thing, it was world wide.
have some manners and respect and go read your history before you come bashing a family that contributed to the freedom of an oppressed group.
 
Datsymay said:
So what is your problem? do you think Mj should be forgotten in 10 years time because he died in 2009> do you think people in the past should be forgotten for their contribution to society because they are old? Or Do you just have a problem with Mj's family.
For your information, the Jackson have always been more than just a boy band for a generation of BLACK PEOPLE who were dis enfranchised in the 70's and who looked up to them as a cultural icon. the jacksons gave hope to a lot of people of colour. they felt that if the Jackson could do it then maybe they could do it too,' So before you run off your mouth and be disrespecting The Jackson family, try and understand what those OLd fans are thying to say to you.
the Jacksons are important because they were the first and they broke the mole and made it possible for other black people to be doing what they are doing now.
You forgot to listen to Queen Latifer and Coby Bryant and Magic Johnson.
this thing was not just an American thing, it was world wide.
have some manners and respect and go read your history before you come bashing a family that contributed to the freedom of an oppressed group.
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Don't turn this into an Black & White issue, I'm mixed. Come up with something original for once. And Michael Jackson can not be compared with his siblings. He will be here forever. He's on a whole other level. He's up their with the greats like Picasso, Michaelangelo, Da Vinci etc. As for the disrespecting part, I haven't disrespected anyone in this thread, so try again.
 
Datsymay said:
So what is your problem? do you think Mj should be forgotten in 10 years time because he died in 2009> do you think people in the past should be forgotten for their contribution to society because they are old? Or Do you just have a problem with Mj's family.
For your information, the Jackson have always been more than just a boy band for a generation of BLACK PEOPLE who were dis enfranchised in the 70's and who looked up to them as a cultural icon. the jacksons gave hope to a lot of people of colour. they felt that if the Jackson could do it then maybe they could do it too,' So before you run off your mouth and be disrespecting The Jackson family, try and understand what those OLd fans are thying to say to you.
the Jacksons are important because they were the first and they broke the mole and made it possible for other black people to be doing what they are doing now.
You forgot to listen to Queen Latifer and Coby Bryant and Magic Johnson.
this thing was not just an American thing, it was world wide.
have some manners and respect and go read your history before you come bashing a family that contributed to the freedom of an oppressed group.
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stop acting like they were the first black performers to succeed :smilerolleyes: many before them came and are still considered relevant , they were simply a BOY BAND , they enjoyed ten years of success and then went no where ,that was their whole history and without MJ they would not have even succeeded . After that it's Michael and Michael ALONE .
 
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twinklEE said:
Don't turn this into an Black & White issue, I'm mixed. Come up with something original for once. And Michael Jackson can not be compared with his siblings. He will be here forever. He's on a whole other level. He's up their with the greats like Picasso, Michaelangelo, Da Vinci etc. As for the disrespecting part, I haven't disrespected anyone in this thread, so try again.
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It is a black white issue , There was appathied in music when michael jackson started his career. To see a black family on tv was a novelty and that was why so many people were and still are affected by the Jacksons. They were the first BlACKS to do it. and so they have the respect of the black community. the song YOUNG GIFTED AND BLACK was about them.
When they started wearing the AFRO everybody and their momma started wearing the Afro. they were the family that EVERY BLACK folkes wanted to be like and they were the brothers that every girl wanted to marry.
So when some young white folks come on the fanboard and talk crap about the family, it does not just OFFEND those original fanbase but it hurt too.
This is what they are trying to say to you. it hurts because the Jacksons broke down racial barriers when nobody else cared to do so.
mainstream whites created the Osmonds to compete with the Jacksons instead of embracing them. that is how it was. listen and learn and stop the disrespect.
 
Soundmind said:
stop acting like they were the first black performers to succeed
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Thank you, because I thought I was the only one who noticed that. LOL!

I mean, it would be very hard to exclude OTHER members of the Motown family.

A lot of them I would consider our FIRST "boybands" and "girl groups." Each very successful in their own right and when those Motown groups had a member leave said group for any reason, they found a way to continue. As it should be.
 
Datsymay said:
When they started wearing the AFRO everybody and their momma started wearing the Afro.
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Sorry homie, but folks were wearing Afro's WAY before the Jackson's. Where the heck did you get that idea from. LOL! You straight-up tripping now.
 
Big Apple2 said:
Thank you, because I thought I was the only one who noticed that. LOL!

I mean, it would be very hard to exclude OTHER members of the Motown family.

A lot of them I would consider our FIRST "boybands" and "girl groups." Each very successful in their own right and when those Motown groups had a member leave said group for any reason, they found a way to continue. As it should be.
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Soundmind said:
stop acting like they were the first black performers to succeed :smilerolleyes: many before them came and are still considered relevant , they were simply a BOY BAND , they enjoyed ten years of success and then went no where ,that was their whole history and without MJ they would not have even succeeded . After that it's Michael and Michael ALONE .
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Thank you, you guys, I thought I was the only one noticing this!! LOL!
There were MANY black artists before, MANY SUCCESSFUL black artists before the Jackson 5 even got their break. IF anything Michael took it a step further in the 80s when it came to breaking racial barriers. That was MJ not all of them. They as a band didn't do anything tons of other black artists hadn't done/achieved before them.

Sorry homie, but folks were wearing Afro's WAY before the Jackson's. Where the heck did you get that idea from. LOL! You straight-up tripping now.
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LOL! True
 
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