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Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

October 2008. with Brad Buxer. Las Vegas.
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

before I hear people say they don't want Days in Gloucestershire released because it is leaked...

it is YOUR choice to listen to it....!!!
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

before I hear people say they don't want Days in Gloucestershire released because it is leaked...

it is YOUR choice to listen to it....!!!
At least to get to hear it how MJ LEFT it :)
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

I played a bit with the cover I recently made, so here is version 2 of chicago. Hope it helps building some excitement for the album :)

You made an absolute great thing even greater! Thnx for sharing!

(Maybe you still could tweak the sign a little & make it look a little more real, by darkening it so that it fit's the mast more...)
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

The sound reminds me of The lost children. But it's terrible that they leaked the song.
Why they do this? I don't want that any song will leaked in future.
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

This just gives you a insight to how incomplete MJ's material is. The MJ estate only have so much to work with.
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

in my opinion as far as banning leaked material.. there is parts of me that understands and other parts of me that does not agree.. so I'm on the fence about that.

There are several songs that may never be released that the fan community would appreciate to hear!! so we block ourselves from hearing those songs?

And where do we draw the line? Do we not share any unreleased MJ footage because it may be released later? It's really tricky to find the right position for that..

I think the only thing we can do is when we know a song is planned to be released, that we block those songs and/or video footage.. Otherwise, songs that will never be released should not have the same rules about them..

Than the question goes, "how do you know what songs will be released down the road"... We don't!! So we'd go back and forth with that..

So maybe it's just best to let it up to the listener.. If they want to hear, than listen and if not.. don't!!
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

before I hear people say they don't want Days in Gloucestershire released because it is leaked...

it is YOUR choice to listen to it....!!!

Exactly! It is very possible that this song will be on the next album. So you have one more previously unreleased but leaked song. So people who says if there are 5/10 leaked songs "I won't buy it" DON'T LISTEN TO THIS LEAK. Or just buy the album like everyone else.
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

Are albums the major money-maker for the estate anyway? Compared to the Immortal and One shows...

That's the only reason I don't see leaked songs as much of an issue. Either way, most fans will still support and buy the album even if it has previously released songs. And casual listeners picking up the album will not recognize the previously leaked tracks. There were countless comments on the Samsung commercial with Slave to The Rhythm, asking for the name of the song.
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

just because days in gloucestershire is extremely incomplete doesn't mean that all other song's are in this state.. it's a beautiful demo and i'm glad we get to hear it.. Michael's vocal is what's desirable about this track.. the melody is simply gorgeous.. if you don't want leaked song's on the album.. don't listen to the leaks.. this is for the hardcore fanbase.. the general public don't know of the 3/4 of leaked song's so, there's still value in them. especially in CDQ.
 
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Many artists have several songs leaked before an album releases.. sometimes the whole album!! we just don't know about it nearly as often as it happens because we are not huge 'fans' of those artists.. yet we'd still buy the album if we like it.. but if MJ music who we are huge fans of get leaks and an album comes out some DON'T buy it..

that makes very little sense to me..

these MJ songs are not on the radio, they are simply online and we have full control of what we hear from it.. we click on the link, click on the next one, and even press play, make sure our audio is up to our liking..

So if that is the choice you make, than don't be disappointed later..

This song specifically my guess would be IF they release it, it would be updated.. It does sound like a demo to me.. Someone mention likeness to The Lost Children, the instrumental actually reminds me of a layer of sound MJ used for Heal The World!!
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

I hope they announce something before more stuff gets leaked even if it's not going to end up on the new album. I just don't like the timing of this leak.
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

I think his pronunciation is more like 'Worcestershire' than 'Gloucestershire'! Sorry to quibble, but it sounds a little unusual to these English ears.
 
Re: The Estate of Michael Jackson enters partnership with Sony Mobile

Has anyone heard Gloucestershire? It just leaked (to my knowledge) and people are saying that it's one of the new songs that will be included on his new album.

Has anyone heard it?
 
Re: The Estate of Michael Jackson enters partnership with Sony Mobile

^ Yes, it leaked, no, it's not from the new album
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

And on the youtube site there stands, that the next one will be the demo People of the world.
I think they will leaked it, in a few days, too. Somebody should be stop this. Whoever leaked this songs, it's not respectful against the legacy from Michael. But I'm asking me, how they get these songs. The Estate should do something. Sure I want to hear new stuff from Michael, but not in this way. They destroy the album before it's come out and take the chance away to became a new No.1.
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

And on the youtube site there stands, that the next one will be the demo People of the world.
I think they will leaked it, in a few days, too. Somebody should be stop this. Whoever leaked this songs, it's not respectful against the legacy from Michael. But I'm asking me, how they get these songs. The Estate should do something. Sure I want to hear new stuff from Michael, but not in this way. They destroy the album before it's come out and take the chance away to became a new No.1.

Don't listen the leaks then. We'll get new versions by Timbaland, John McClain and other producers on the new album. So all songs will sound "new" to everyone.
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

You made an absolute great thing even greater! Thnx for sharing!

(Maybe you still could tweak the sign a little & make it look a little more real, by darkening it so that it fit's the mast more...)


Thanks. I will try to improve it :)
 
Not gonna lie i've listened to the leak and it's hard to hear exactly what Michael is singing.
Sounds like Michael was just testing the water with this track. Sweet and humble song, with a very soothing Michael (The Lost Children, Heal The World) vibe. If its on the new album it may have been changed to inlcude more instrumental parts etc….

**Waits Patiently for The Estate to announce something….**
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Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

Don't listen the leaks then. We'll get new versions by Timbaland, John McClain and other producers on the new album. So all songs will sound "new" to everyone.

The problem is not that it will sound new or old. It's not the problem for me, if the songs will leaked or not. I will buy the album in any way. But if the whole album leaked before it's released, I think the sales will be fallen. I want that everybody, not only the hardcore fans, will be banged when the new album is out. And I guess it's generally not good, when one song leaked after the other.
 
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The problem is not that it will sound new or old. It's not the problem for me, if the songs will leaked or not. I will buy the album in any way. But if the whole album leaked before it's released, I think the sales will be fallen. I want that everybody, not only the hardcore fans, will be banged when the new album is out. And I guess it's generally not good, when one song leaked after the other.

I doubt this song will be on the new album.
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

Slave to the rhythm - Blue Gangsta - A place with no name - Days in Gloucestershire - Chicago 1945 - People of the world seems to be on the new album.

I really hope that we get some killer tracks.
Shut up and dance should be one of those. But the vocals should be really incomplete. I think they can put 2 songs on the album where the vocals are not 100 percent complete, but not more. They should try to put the mostly completed songs on the album, because like we hear in Hollywood tonight and Days of Gloucestershire, these songs are not complete. The vocals are very raw. And the saddest thing about the not completed vocals are, that the aren't ad libs from Michael. That's the mostly thing that makes me very sad. Because I think the ad libs are maybe the best thing from Michael. It's very unfortunately that he record the ad libs at last. Hope we get songs like Slave to the rhythm or Blue Gangsta, where he had completed the ad libs.
 
Re: The Estate of Michael Jackson enters partnership with Sony Mobile

If they put Days on the album, they must be desperate as hell for material. It's a great song and I wouldn't mind its inclusion if a more complete version existed, but the version that leaked shouldn't be released. The vocals are mostly there but you can tell Michael is only giving half strength.
 
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Im my opinion it would be smart release.. First off it is a great song from a sound perspective and it brings awareness like in true MJ fasion.. Not only that yes it would get SOME attention because of the content... That will bring attention to the new album, and the song!! People will like it.. Michael has had a lot more controversial topics in songs released.

Michael's never sung about child abuse before though. He sang about child abandonment (The Lost Children), but never explicitly about sexual abuse. That leaves a terrible taste in the mouth, especially considering the Wade Robson case that's going on right now.

October 2008. with Brad Buxer. Las Vegas.

It was actually worked on in the summer of 2008. In October 2008, Michael was at the Bel Air Hotel with Neff-U and Michael Prince. Besides, Buxer temporarily left Michael's employment that summer.

Exactly! It is very possible that this song will be on the next album. So you have one more previously unreleased but leaked song. So people who says if there are 5/10 leaked songs "I won't buy it" DON'T LISTEN TO THIS LEAK. Or just buy the album like everyone else.

Definitely not. There is an entire verse missing and you can tell that Michael is only singing at half strength. Completely disregarding the argument of releasing songs as Michael left them, that applies only for songs that are finished/near finished. DIG still has a long ways to go.

I would love for this to be released, just not on a studio album. Maybe on a TUC-type box set.
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

You got me inspired there Urvino :) Here is a quick one I just did of Chicago (work in progress). Hope you guys like it:

I love this! - And I actually like the version 2 even more - with the sign!! Great work!!

How do fans feel about having Do You Know Where Your Children Are in the new album ? I think they should put that in but maybe change the title ?

I would actually like that. - It's not like MJ did not release controversial songs when he was alive! - It's a great song and would get a lot of PR. - for free...


WHAT. - HOW?? Seems like an early demo to me.

Im my opinion it would be smart release.. First off it is a great song from a sound perspective and it brings awareness like in true MJ fasion.. Not only that yes it would get SOME attention because of the content... That will bring attention to the new album, and the song!! People will like it.. Michael has had a lot more controversial topics in songs released.

Michael is viewed differently after his passing than he was in life.. a topic like DYKWYCA would be viewed differently as well.. and the title is perfect to me!! It would bring attention...

I don't think anyone should be afraid of what people would think about the topic, when MJ has already said in interviews much more damaging (honest) things about children bluntly stating things.. Haters will hate, but haters will give advertisement...

Agreed!

before I hear people say they don't want Days in Gloucestershire released because it is leaked...

it is YOUR choice to listen to it....!!!

:bow: :bow: :bow:

Exactly! It is very possible that this song will be on the next album. So you have one more previously unreleased but leaked song. So people who says if there are 5/10 leaked songs "I won't buy it" DON'T LISTEN TO THIS LEAK. Or just buy the album like everyone else.

Agreed. - If you don't want songs on the new album that you have already heard - The DO NOT listen to leaks!!!

Slave to the rhythm - Blue Gangsta - A place with no name - Days in Gloucestershire - Chicago 1945 - People of the world seems to be on the new album.

I really hope that we get some killer tracks.
Shut up and dance should be one of those. But the vocals should be really incomplete. I think they can put 2 songs on the album where the vocals are not 100 percent complete, but not more. They should try to put the mostly completed songs on the album, because like we hear in Hollywood tonight and Days of Gloucestershire, these songs are not complete. The vocals are very raw. And the saddest thing about the not completed vocals are, that the aren't ad libs from Michael. That's the mostly thing that makes me very sad. Because I think the ad libs are maybe the best thing from Michael. It's very unfortunately that he record the ad libs at last. Hope we get songs like Slave to the rhythm or Blue Gangsta, where he had completed the ad libs.

I doubt DiG will be on the album. - Only if they have a much much more complete version - if MJ somehow finalized the song with ALL new vocals (the vocals in the version that just leaked is wayyy too weak an unfinished)

Why do you think APWNN will be on the album and why do you think People of the World will be on the album??

Has anyone said something or just because they have leaked or??
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

Slave to the rhythm - Blue Gangsta - A place with no name - Days in Gloucestershire - Chicago 1945 - People of the world seems to be on the new album.

STTR, and Chicago 1945 definitely, perhaps APWNN but what do you base the rest on?
 
Re: News and discussion about upcoming MJ album [Update Pg15]

Blue Gangsta based on Dr Freeze being/likely on board the new album from the Damien Shields article
 
Re: The Estate of Michael Jackson enters partnership with Sony Mobile

If they put Days on the album, they must be desperate as hell for material. It's a great song and I wouldn't mind its inclusion if a more complete version existed, but the version that leaked shouldn't be released. The vocals are mostly there but you can tell Michael is only giving half strength.

They simply CAN NOT release a song in such terrible state as DiG!!

It is only half finished, MJ sings at half strenght, mumbling and it seems (to me anyway!) as a very early demo! - Waay to weak to release. Vocals are not nearly strong enough, some times you can't even hear what he sings...

If they somehow have a finished version - or MJ made another version - a finished version with clear, strong and good vocals - that's an all other story.

But this version is in a terrible state IMO. - Not even 50 % complete.
 
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