Mister_Jay_Tee
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Well I think that's it.
It's not my favorite. I like the first half of You Can't Win way better.It certainly isn't his best song. That's something everybody can agree on.
Well I think that's it.
It's not my favorite. I like the first half of You Can't Win way better.It certainly isn't his best song. That's something everybody can agree on.
Regarding the listed durations:This has been posted on other forum before Starlight was announced.
What about the leaks that mention Spice of Life?This has been posted on other forum before Starlight was announced.
@ChanceToDance I really had to pull you in here because you’re the expertWhat about the leaks that mention Spice of Life?
How dare you expressing positivity! Go to the corner and I’ll be right with you for your 10 lashes (+1 cause I feel extra sadistic today)Overall I am still buying this on cd and digital
Because I am getting
Behind the mask
The toy
What a lovely way to go
She’s trouble (hopefully the better vocal version)
And Starlight
I don’t mind carousel being on this as it was a contender for thriller
Just hope last song is a unheard gem
Well, unlike CGOTR, it's a very limited release (the "full" version), so it's nice to have it here. Also, it's a bop.I don’t mind carousel being on this as it was a contender for thriller
Pain.@ChanceToDance I really had to pull you in here because you’re the expert
Yes I know about that. I have a copy of it actually. However in my original statement I was speaking about in-print albums and that was a limited release that's no longer in print.It's on The Essential 3.0, a limited edition of the compilation released in some countries (including the US) that can be found pretty easily on eBay for a fair price (just found one for $12, which is cheaper than T40).
It's either Spice of Life, Rolling the Dice, if it's vocally complete enough, or it'll be a complete wet noodle like the Girl is Mine Solo Demo or something. Nightline or Slapstick maybe also could appear if they want to keep things close to their vest.So, what is your take about the last one ? We won't seem to get Hot street or Nightline acording to the YouTube leak so.. . What's left ? Maybe Slapstick ?
We see a lot of mentions for a "Roll the dice" demo : is there any other song/demo from this era who could be released?
I saw that, but you also said something about "buying it easily". Even though TE3.0 is out of print, it's quite easy to find and cheaper than T40. A much better deal, if you ask me.Yes I know about that. I have a copy of it actually. However in my original statement I was speaking about in-print albums and that was a limited release that's no longer in print.
So Chicago 1945 DOES fit in the circle still. This fills me with hope lol.
What do you guys think a bout this leak?
I think it says a lot that these leak are only popping up today, when there’s one title to go. I still cannot fathom the estate blowing two vocally-finished songs on a reissue, but stranger things have happened.
What do you guys think a bout this leak?
Looks fake to me. It looks a bit more warped in comparison to the other songs
What do you guys think a bout this leak?
I found it on Reddit, some guy claimed to see it on another forumWhere did you find this Mjjcn ? Huge if it's Chicago (it's not from the Thriller session right ? But with the Estate...)
Co-writer Ryuichi Sakamoto said that MJ’s original demo was basically the Yellow Magic Orchestra instrumental with some extra drums. I’m imagining a cross between the YMO version and Greg Phillinganes’s.How much of the 2010 version Of BTM is from the original song. It's a John McClain production and he tends to keep original elements. Obviously the synths and saxophone are newly implemented, but what else is there?
I do hope MJ's version keeps that "who do you love" background vocal running throughout in Greg's version. I love that partCo-writer Ryuichi Sakamoto said that MJ’s original demo was basically the Yellow Magic Orchestra instrumental with some extra drums. I’m imagining a cross between the YMO version and Greg Phillinganes’s.
The editing on this just makes me say it's fake straight away lol. Why is the corner missing and why does it look like it's been stepped on by muddy boots, on a clearly digital imageThis has been posted on other forum before Starlight was announced.
Well there's the death blow I deserve.“Spice of Life” wasn’t recorded.
Given the tight spacing, I think the last title has to be somewhat short. As long as it’s not “Slapstick,” I really don’t care.
I think it says a lot that these leak are only popping up today, when there’s one title to go. I still cannot fathom the estate blowing two vocally-finished songs on a reissue, but stranger things have happened.
It's basically just bonus material to the truest extent. As much old stuff as can be and then a couple new songs. Basically they could've released the new songs and then maybe made a regular compilation and called it a day. Would've really taken the weight off of them.So far, disc 2 is laid out as follows:
While the heard to unheard ratio could absolutely be better and I’m not entirely happy with some of the material chosen, this puts things in perspective a bit. From our bubble it may not seem too impressive, but bear in mind that even diehards haven’t heard all of this material. (I know—I’ve met and seen several.)
- leaked but unreleased demo of “Thriller,” available for the first time in HQ
- outtake that was given an extremely limited release in select countries a decade ago, and will be released here for the first time in most locations
- ?
- previously released outtake (ideally the full version, which never received a wide release)
- demo of a posthumously released song
- previously released B-side that hasn’t been available on a physical product in most countries since 1982
- demo/alternate version of a posthumously released song
- previously released outtake
- never-before-heard outtake
- leaked but unreleased outtake, available for the first time in HQ
The thing about MJs demos is they never quite sound like the covers that come to be. Like LNFSG and I Never Heard. At least in certain cases. Songs like Joy and Fall Again are basically 1:1 or so I've been told in the case of the former.Co-writer Ryuichi Sakamoto said that MJ’s original demo was basically the Yellow Magic Orchestra instrumental with some extra drums. I’m imagining a cross between the YMO version and Greg Phillinganes’s.
By that logic, they could have just re-released Thriller, with no bonus tracks at all, as there are obviously millions of people out there, including younger people, who have never heard the Thriller album. You'd be going, "sure the lack of any bonus track is too bad for us, but there are millions of 15-year-olds for whom this is the chance to hear Baby Be Mine and The Girl is Mine for the first time."From our bubble it may not seem too impressive, but bear in mind that even diehards haven’t heard all of this material. (I know—I’ve met and seen several.)
They're doing this because thriller 40 is gonna flop. Spotify has made all the effort of archives pointless and the horrid legal/allegation snafus have Branca scared witless.By that logic, they could have just re-released Thriller, with no bonus tracks at all, as there are obviously millions of people out there, including younger people, who have never heard the Thriller album. You'd be going, "sure the lack of any bonus track is too bad for us, but there are millions of 15-year-olds for whom this is the chance to hear Baby Be Mine and The Girl is Mine for the first time."
I just come back here every Thursday to say what needs to be said: MJ has got the worst Estate in the world of pop music, and I hope Thriller40 flops. Only when they realize there is no point in chasing the mainstream will they treat fans right.