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Times 100 influential people of 2009

Don't fret too much. Just like Quincy, I think Michael also likes to be underestimated. He creates his best work that way. When people start to not expect much out of him, that is when you slip and fall on your ass at what Michael just did.
 
IvoryKeys said:
Don't fret too much. Just like Quincy, I think Michael also likes to be underestimated. He creates his best work that way. When people start to not expect much out of him, that is when you slip and fall on your ass at what Michael just did.
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yeah..ur probably right. i gotcha there.
 
The reason Mike is not on Time Magazine's list is because Time is owned and controlled by its parent conglomerate. Time Magazine is a piece of SH** like most of mainstream corporate media.

The govt. uses outlets like Time to condition its citizens with what to like and what to dislike. There is a media black out when it comes to anything positive about MJ. If this were any other artist, you would have scene a mini-series on them on the news channels. Instead of crap like "Black in America" you would have seen "MJ in America" or stuff like that. But because of the media "black out" you will be lucky if they carry anything positive about Mike in the press. After all, they are trying so desparately to pigeon hole his career to saying he was only popular "back then" and that his only hit was Thriller.

Time Magazine is worthless and I would never read it myself (imo). I don't care what the mainstream media has to say. They are too busy promoting the propoganda put out by the govt. They are a SHAM and a horrible hoax of a "free press" (IMHO).
 
IvoryKeys said:
Don't fret too much. Just like Quincy, I think Michael also likes to be underestimated. He creates his best work that way. When people start to not expect much out of him, that is when you slip and fall on your ass at what Michael just did.
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That's why I don't sweat when he doesn't make a "list". I feel lots of people are influential but no one mentions them either, no big sh*t. :lol:
 
vstreet said:
The reason Mike is not on Time Magazine's list is because Time is owned and controlled by its parent conglomerate. Time Magazine is a piece of SH** like most of mainstream corporate media.

The govt. uses outlets like Time to condition its citizens with what to like and what to dislike. There is a media black out when it comes to anything positive about MJ. If this were any other artist, you would have scene a mini-series on them on the news channels. Instead of crap like "Black in America" you would have seen "MJ in America" or stuff like that. But because of the media "black out" you will be lucky if they carry anything positive about Mike in the press. After all, they are trying so desparately to pigeon hole his career to saying he was only popular "back then" and that his only hit was Thriller.

Time Magazine is worthless and I would never read it myself (imo). I don't care what the mainstream media has to say. They are too busy promoting the propoganda put out by the govt. They are a SHAM and a horrible hoax of a "free press" (IMHO).
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RIGHT ON! :kickass:

F*ck Time magazine and every other mainstream magazine in general.
 
vstreet said:
The reason Mike is not on Time Magazine's list is because Time is owned and controlled by its parent conglomerate. Time Magazine is a piece of SH** like most of mainstream corporate media.

The govt. uses outlets like Time to condition its citizens with what to like and what to dislike. There is a media black out when it comes to anything positive about MJ. If this were any other artist, you would have scene a mini-series on them on the news channels. Instead of crap like "Black in America" you would have seen "MJ in America" or stuff like that. But because of the media "black out" you will be lucky if they carry anything positive about Mike in the press. After all, they are trying so desparately to pigeon hole his career to saying he was only popular "back then" and that his only hit was Thriller.

Time Magazine is worthless and I would never read it myself (imo). I don't care what the mainstream media has to say. They are too busy promoting the propoganda put out by the govt. They are a SHAM and a horrible hoax of a "free press" (IMHO).
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Thats it.Its the only explanation why MJ never makes it up on any list.Most of these things are highly influenced by Govt.And as far as I can remember Michael was never much close with any of the Govt's official ever.But I bet if Michael wants to be on the top of every list he can do it with some politics.But now he don't care much about it I guess.
 
Welllllllll, publications of these things, in fact the actual list was probably done before michael even announced anything. making sure publications are correct and everything take a lot of time...........

plus influential of 2009, actually means influential of 2008 + 1 month of 2009


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just read the above. and i agree. Screw the Murdoch Empire.
 
You lot are crazy, and thinking way too deep into things. You sound like a bunch of conspiracy theorists. The list is for last year, wait till next year and then make all your weird theories.
 
Mystic said:
Maybe he didn't get on it because he didn't do anything influential this year? Aside from a quick recovery time from a massive trial, Michael hasn't done anything really influential since 2001.
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LOL, right.
Homeboy hasn't really done anything worth mentioning since 2001, so it shouldn't come as a shock that he was excluded from a "most influential" celebrity list for 2009.
Some of you guys are getting worked up over nothin'.



Hollaback.
 
LOL, half of the list exists out of disney stars, wouldn't worry too much about it, maybe he's up for next years list, dont wanna sound offensive but besides announcing the ''this is it'' tour, he didn't really do anything ''special''. They can't have him on every years just 'because of Thriller', that wouldn't be fair.
 
well..safe to say that if anyone else made an o2 announcement and got the results mj got, it would be called an achievement... now, there are some saying that it's not an achievement...or that MJ has to do somn besides that for it to be special. again, if someone else did that alone, it would be called special. i know u might be getting desensitized by MJ's massive number of massive achievements, but that doesn't diminish them, one bit.
 
I think fans shouldn't worry too much about what the media says any more.

The media thing with the trial soon grows tired. It's just been a few years since 2005 and already some articles no longer end their stories with the trial thing.

When the tour starts and as he releases his music and more stuff, all that will fade into the past.

Who thought MJ would sell out 50 concerts in just one city? and more is yet to come.

What i like about this is that as MJ focusses on his music and that's what people like, more will also have a chance to learn the truth about 2005.

You see, if people are not into his music, they are also indifferent about the truth. When they are into his music, they will also be interested to know what the truth was. And that's when more will find out through books and other information sources.

This makes it all the harder for the media to malign him, because when you are popular and the truth is out there, what can the media do? But if you are not popular, then the public is indifferent and just takes whatever teh media says about you.
That's why in 1993 Sneddon felt he could not go after MJ because of his popularity and people would scrutinize any malice. But in 2005, with 10 years of attacks, Sneddon knew the media had made the public indifferent to a large extent and that's why he got away with what he could not have done to MJ in 1993.

What kept 1993 going is because MJ settled, and many tried to dig into that believing there was something, and hanging that over him.
But after the acquittal, the media has nothing to dig and does not want to report what went on in court. You see, the media avoids mentioning the Chandlers because Jordy and his dad never turned up and Mez turned June around to reveal a lot about the extortion, which would cause the public to question why that was so. But with time, the truth from books like Conspiracy and others, will find its way more and more in the public domain.

When it comes to mentioning 2005, it becomes tired after a while, and believe me, people notice, because i have had some question why the media always has to bring up the trial.
The public isn't entirely stupid you know, and they can see a pattern.

It's just like an advert that when you open a site or newspaper you expect to see it there and you begin to ignore it. And that was seen as affecting advertising.
Part of the public also come to expect that the media will have a by-line for the trial and they begin to ignore that part.
 
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