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filmandmusic said:
Had to look this guy up, good voice. Record and release it mister Ryder
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yeah i feel the same (and i never usually rate anyone singing michaels art ) i meant , i wonder if hes one of us ? seems so , cause i think his rendition of Michael's dirty Diana excels . maybe the estate could work with a bunch of 21st century folk and Sam be one of them? we are the world, but in honour of Michael and just how united he made us through music and creativity ? just a thought.
 
wendijane said:
yeah i feel the same (and i never usually rate anyone singing michaels art ) i meant , i wonder if hes one of us ? seems so , cause i think his rendition of Michael's dirty Diana excels . maybe the estate could work with a bunch of 21st century folk and Sam be one of them? we are the world, but in honour of Michael and just how united he made us through music and creativity ? just a thought.
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Controversial opinion, but Iā€™d love an album of covers from contemporary artists, similar to what Elton John did.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Controversial opinion, but Iā€™d love an album of covers from contemporary artists, similar to what Elton John did.
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That would be amazing. Elton John has done it classy and with huge succes. - I think the duet with Britney Spears reach #1 i Denmark - and many other countries. A modern version of a classic song made into a duet with a popular artist is a great way to make MJ relevant on the charts again and introduce him to new audiences and hopefully they will be intrigued and listen to MJ's original versions and MJ catalog.

I would love that. - Beyonce, Britney Spears, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Elton John, Shakira, Rhianna etc. could be great. - And of course Bruno Mars - maybe The Weekend.
 
Hess said:
That would be amazing. Elton John has done it classy and with huge succes. - I think the duet with Britney Spears reach #1 i Denmark - and many other countries. A modern version of a classic song made into a duet with a popular artist is a great way to make MJ relevant on the charts again and introduce him to new audiences and hopefully they will be intrigued and listen to MJ's original versions and MJ catalog.

I would love that. - Beyonce, Britney Spears, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Elton John, Shakira, Rhianna etc. could be great. - And of course Bruno Mars - maybe The Weekend.
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Oh my god, please no!
 
filmandmusic said:
I don't care how or when or why but I would love it if somehow MJ gets to score a huge hit again.
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Unlikely to happen unless they just take his vocals and slap them over an unrelated instrumental again and have a modern artist on it for no reason. Could do without that personally.
 
Agonum said:
Oh my god, please no!
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Agreed. I felt like it cheapened the songs and took away something from them. Elton should have never done that imo. Anything to stay current I guess. Made me cringe first time I heard the song with Britney. Please donā€™t do that to MJ ever.
 
Smooth72 said:
Agreed. I felt like it cheapened the songs and took away something from them. Elton should have never done that imo. Anything to stay current I guess. Made me cringe first time I heard the song with Britney. Please donā€™t do that to MJ ever.
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Yeah, the ā€œCold Heartā€ and ā€œHold Me Closerā€ remixes are absolutely terrible.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Yeah, the ā€œCold Heartā€ and ā€œHold Me Closerā€ remixes are absolutely terrible.
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i love the cold heart remix, its extremely popular.

if we can get that sorta success for michael in this day and age, it would be amazing.
 
I like those remixes yeah. The Britney one isn't as good but the cold heart one I enjoy quite a bit.
 
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Smooth72 said:
Agreed. I felt like it cheapened the songs and took away something from them. Elton should have never done that imo. Anything to stay current I guess. Made me cringe first time I heard the song with Britney. Please donā€™t do that to MJ ever.
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MJ's musical craftsmanship has the better DNA for modernization. People don't love the remixes and they're not all great, but never have I ever really thought they made MJ sound like some ancient fart from the past. He is the father of modern music essentially, he can take part in whatever he wants.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
MJ's musical craftsmanship has the better DNA for modernization. People don't love the remixes and they're not all great, but never have I ever really thought they made MJ sound like some ancient fart from the past. He is the father of modern music essentially, he can take part in whatever he wants.
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But whoā€™s to say what he want?
 
Agonum said:
But whoā€™s to say what he want?
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Who's to say he didn't want it. Or would care.

This discussion has been going in circles forever. The estate will how whatever they feel, we can feel how we feel and choose to pay or not.

There are clues MJ was not bothered by the process of posthumous work (Minnie Ripperton, Biggie Smalls), but there's also possible clues he didn't care for others touching his work (which, we all have to admit, started to lessen and change on its own as he lived as well, he stopped concerning himself with "remixes" so much), so.
 
MJ didn't like when his songs were remixed but he'd still do it reluctantly, T25 is the biggest proof of that. It's safe to say that if he was alive today he'd be collaborating with modern day artists seeing how that's what he did with singers/producers like Akon, Will.I.Am, RedOne, Kanye West in the 2000's and they were huge back then.
 
I have a sneaky feeling MJ would love it if his music still got attention and rightly so. It is too snobbish to not let people use your music.

It is like Metallica, they refused for decades to have their songs show up on tv or film until they approved to use Master of Puppets for Stranger Things. It is an absolute win win situation. You get money and attention from a new audience.

Artists are always thinking they created something untouchable
 
filmandmusic said:
I have a sneaky feeling MJ would love it if his music still got attention and rightly so. It is too snobbish to not let people use your music.

It is like Metallica, they refused for decades to have their songs show up on tv or film until they approved to use Master of Puppets for Stranger Things. It is an absolute win win situation. You get money and attention from a new audience.

Artists are always thinking they created something untouchable
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Film has to go and mention Metallica lol noooooooo
but i totally get what you mean
 
It should be noted that sometime during the late 2000s, when Michael found out that clubs were still playing his music, he was very happy about this. He had assumed he was mostly forgotten and was elated to be proven wrong.

Of course we will never know what he would've and wouldn't have liked about what they're doing with his music now. But at the end of the day, I think he'd be ecstatic to know that he still has fans all around the world.

And not everyone has to like everything, obviously. Tastes differ. I also have some stern words to say with regards to the estate. But at the end of the day, I just want to celebrate Michael Jackson, the artist and human, and the legacy he has left us.
 
ChanceToDance said:
MJ didn't like when his songs were remixed but he'd still do it reluctantly, T25 is the biggest proof of that. It's safe to say that if he was alive today he'd be collaborating with modern day artists seeing how that's what he did with singers/producers like Akon, Will.I.Am, RedOne, Kanye West in the 2000's and they were huge back then.
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I always thought the ā€œMJ only did remixes because he had toā€ claim was bogus, even when it came directly from his mouth. His own actions contradict thatā€”releasing them as single B-sides since as early as Thriller, pushing for the T25 remixes in lieu of album outtakes, etc. I wouldnā€™t call it reluctance as much as an outright willingness.
 
I think at the end of the day, MJ was a lover of the process of making music. Writing and penning lyrical prose, and crafting incredible sonic sounds. And he wanted to continue to cultivate incredible sounds because he was dedicated to that.

That's the biggest problem with me & the posthumous tracks: they play it too safely. In fact, everything has been very self referential, homage Jam here, harken back to Off The Wall there. Here's an extravagant mural for a cover, when would MJ ever? He was always avant garde. The music they make in his name should be as indie as can be, some of the craziest most unbelievable sounds the human ear has ever heard. They're not trying to outdo MJs best work but they really should be trying to do just that, shouldn't they? That's how we know they're taking it as seriously as can be.
AlwaysThere said:
I always thought the ā€œMJ only did remixes because he had toā€ claim was bogus, even when it came directly from his mouth. His own actions contradict thatā€”releasing them as single B-sides since as early as Thriller, pushing for the T25 remixes in lieu of album outtakes, etc. I wouldnā€™t call it reluctance as much as an outright willingness.
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MJ and remixes for me are a integral duo. Some of the best moments I've had musically is rehearing his music in new ways and with new palettes. A lot of it is still fun, and still enduring.
 
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