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This is great because I can’t stream atmos via airplay2 on my sound bar.
 
wendijane said:
I can (probably) see how their stance is on this. Michael is not from a world of Instagram, FaceBook, TikTok or Tweets...
His body of work is beyond social media, I think they are saying he and his art is worldwide known already so heavy promotion is hardly needed. I got a "quiet" email which i thought was quite classy. it's already sold out on Amazon...and thriller 4k (now on YouTube) looks fantastic. The title and presentation of the album says it all to be fair..
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Still waiting for my pigeon carrying my T40 newsletter 🤭 But I know what you mean :ROFLMAO: I assume that not many younger people are REALLY involved in all these projects. I imagine it like my father would try to lead all this projects, so everything makes sense LMAO

It also reminds of me the gaming industry, where you have all these people leading projects that are not gamers themselves. Of course everything turns out awful
 
SmoothGangsta said:
I'm definitely thinking that the joke I made about Sony and the estate falling out because Branca wanted his face on the album cover instead of MJ's is 100 percent true after watching his Tiktoks, lol.

Why is the month the documentary is releasing in being announced on his personal Tiktok???
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I made so many jokes about a Branca biopic coming out, this is getting more and more a reality with every day.

On the surface the doc will be about Michael, but then all these random people no one cares about will give their opinions on MJ, how they grew up seeing him on the TV or how they enjoyed working with him, that he was a nice dancer that sometimes he wrote a song or two. And the most intense part of this doc will be, when Branca talks about his business relationship with Michael. Showing pictures of Michael being at his wedding, both bonding by wanting to be the biggest in the business, breaking all records with insane deals!

Then this doc will start showing the dark parts in Michael's life, how he fucked up everything and how people in his life, LIKE BRANCA AND CO tried to save him. They will torture us with at least 5 minute footage of the day Michael died and people giving their opinions on that. Where were you when Michael died? Why was it Michael's own fault?

And then it's time again, Branca starts talking about randomly finding Michael's will in his desk and thinking "at least Michael's legacy will be in good hands now" and then the true magic BEGINS!

jk :alien:
 
wendijane said:
It is good to see John representing Michael's legacy on the TikTok platform. Many , many new fans will arise from the simplicity of this. I hope that every short film & tours released or re-leased can always be in 4K cause 4K is made for Michael!
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Or they could just make an official MJ account and post on there. Kinda sick of them trying to make it about themselves.
 
Did someone notice the distortion on the S-sounds on the Atmos version of Human Nature? Its what is referred to as sibilance that can be heard on Vinyl records. Rest of the mix is pretty good, i maybe would have liked some more bass going to the sub.
Listened to this on a 7.1 system, so i did not get to hear the height channels from Atmos but seemed pretty good.
 
AlwaysThere said:
I just realized that the rumors of the multitrack to “Baby Be Mine” being damaged/ruined were proven false by the creation of the Dolby Atmos mix. Thank goodness.
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It could still be true that the original multitrack tapes got ruined, doesn't mean they weren't digitized in the past.
They aren't mutually exclusive things, both can be true.
 
AlwaysThere said:
I just realized that the rumors of the multitrack to “Baby Be Mine” being damaged/ruined were proven false by the creation of the Dolby Atmos mix. Thank goodness.
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i pointed this out early today but ya'll ignored me xD
 
NeoGardiV8 said:
It could still be true that the original multitrack tapes got ruined, doesn't mean they weren't digitized in the past.
They aren't mutually exclusive things, both can be true.
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That’s true, but a lot of the discourse implied that there was absolutely nothing usable from them, digital or otherwise.
 
zinniabooklover said:
Hm. I read the pinned comment for this video but, ngl, I find it hard to believe this was any kind of official release. I don't remember seeing this thing at the time but that's not conclusive. It's more the awfulness of the video and the non-existent production values. Why would Michael go from the production values and budget for BJ and Beat It to this? Michael, in the 1980's, had business smarts as well as impeccable artistic talent. That pinned comment is very clear that they saw this thing. OK, fine. It was broadcast somewhere in the world. That doesn't make it 'official', imo.

I only got halfway through the thing. It was so goddamn awful I had to take a break.

This isn't official. No way. I'm not buying it.

EDIT - just watched another 60 seconds. I don't believe it. Not for one single second. This couldn't possibly be official. Just to be clear, I'm not having a go at you. It's an interesting little mystery, I suppose, what with that pinned comment and all. All I'm saying is, if this really is an official Michael Jackson video - FROM THE 1980's - I'll eat my hat.*

*N.B. I never wear hats. :ROFLMAO:
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Thanks for the insight. I don't think it's something MJ himself approved. The old upload of it from youtube mentioned something like it was made by Sony Music Australlia. So it technically is official? No idea if that's true or not.
 
Cool to hear the demos on disc 2. The sound is so weird. Like Xscape and Michael had bad sound quality but this is like EQ'd in some super weird way. Things just sound off. I can handle compressed music (even if I don't like it), this just sounds like they went out of their way to make it sound terrible. A flat transfer would have been a bigger improvement.
 
mjfanboy27 said:
i am waiting to watch billie jean in 4k youtube there should be 5 videos im confused 😕
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The best strategy is to not wait for anything, just be surprised when something shows up. There is lot of information / misinformation floating around and no official communication from Estate. So if Billie Jean happens, be happily surprised
 
espeneppi said:
Did someone notice the distortion on the S-sounds on the Atmos version of Human Nature? Its what is referred to as sibilance that can be heard on Vinyl records. Rest of the mix is pretty good, i maybe would have liked some more bass going to the sub.
Listened to this on a 7.1 system, so i did not get to hear the height channels from Atmos but seemed pretty good.
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Someone else who use Apple Music on a Apple TV 4K box? Human Nature in the Atmos version and the version on the T40 album both have this distortion, however when streaming the T40 version in the browser that one is fine. Very strange....
 
Hiker said:
The best strategy is to not wait for anything, just be surprised when something shows up. There is lot of information / misinformation floating around and no official communication from Estate. So if Billie Jean happens, be happily surprised
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I'm sorry Hiker, but the person who said about the Billie Jean video doesn't need to have confirmation from the Estate, though at this point he said that plans have changed and he doesn't know what's happening.

I trust mkgenie 110%, he's been right about everything, unless clashes like this one (between Sony and Estate) happen.
 
Dorian said:
I'm sorry Hiker, but the person who said about the Billie Jean video doesn't need to have confirmation from the Estate, though at this point he said that plans have changed and he doesn't know what's happening.

I trust mkgenie 110%, he's been right about everything, unless clashes like this one (between Sony and Estate) happen.
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oh, I did not mean that was false information, I mean the whole "release" seems such a mess that even if it was all planned, it might get cancelled or delayed or disputes or whatever. mkgenie seems quite genuine, and I trust you guys to know more in that area :)
 
just some general thoughts about ‘thriller 40’.

I honestly don’t need to hear anymore demos/remixes/outtakes. they only highlight the fact that the best material made the Final Cut . the seven singles (especially the radio edits) are classics that I never stopped playing. nothing else will ever compete with that.

one thing that shines through on these previously unreleased songs, is michael’s vocals. they were in peak condition. effortless, pure, soulful, smooth, playful, versatile.. they alone elevate the material.

I think it’s endearing and exciting, that John branca has set up a TikTok account to post about Michael. he comes across as a fan and friend of michael’s. he’s literally known and worked with him since the beginning of his adult solo career. he probably has a lot of interesting memories and stories to share. I, personally would love to hear them. he already has a decent amount of followers.

I think the TikTok, activations, the way in which each track was revealed each week, was an attempt to think outside the box, and be innovative in terms of running a promotional campaign. it actually seems in line with how Michael would operate. it’s been an adventure that’s kept everybody talking - for better or worse..

I can’t get over the fact that michael’s zombie makeup in ‘thriller’ is green and not grey. that’s what 4k quality does. I can’t wait to see ‘billie jean’. that’s always been beautiful to look at 💜

there are at least five documentaries that I’m looking forward to; ‘thriller 40’ by Nelson George in January, the ‘victory tour’ on cnn, ‘the sonic fantasy (I think it’s called that?), ‘the stories in the room’ podcast series, and mtv recently announced one.

I found out today that Michael will also have a Sirius fm channel hosted by Steve ivory, for a limited amount of time. I welcome them all 💜
 
83magic said:
one thing that shines through on these previously unreleased songs, is michael’s vocals. they were in peak condition. effortless, pure, soulful, smooth, playful, versatile.. they alone elevate the material.
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This is the main thing I'm getting so far. His vocals are killing me. They are awesome. Haven't listened all of Disc 2 yet but, so far, his vocals are out of sight!

83magic said:
I can’t get over the fact that michael’s zombie makeup in ‘thriller’ is green and not grey. that’s what 4k quality does. I can’t wait to see ‘billie jean’. that’s always been beautiful to look at
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I think I'm in a minority over this. Not enjoying Thriller 4K, the bits I've watched. The spookiness has just dissipated for me with everything being so bright. I grew up with the original version so maybe that's it. It's just what I'm used to. But, for me, the original has SO much atmosphere. But I'm certainly not looking for agreement from anyone on this. I think I'll be waiting a long time for that. :ROFLMAO:

83magic said:
there are at least five documentaries that I’m looking forward to; ‘thriller 40’ by Nelson George in January, the ‘victory tour’ on cnn, ‘the sonic fantasy (I think it’s called that?), ‘the stories in the room’ podcast series, and mtv recently announced one.
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ooh, what was the MTV one? Didn't know about that.

83magic said:
I found out today that Michael will also have a Sirius fm channel hosted by Steve ivory, for a limited amount of time. I welcome them all 💜
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Yeah, this looks interesting.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1593639042180161536
 
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