Three Monitoring Devices That Should Have Been Used to Save Michael's Life

[CherubimII]

Brain Monitoring Could Have Saved Michael Jackson's Life

Friday, November 20, 2009 6:46 AM
Dr. Barry Friedberg says brain monitoring of propofol
could have saved Michael Jackson's life
despite the other drugs in his body.

Dr. Barry Friedberg, a recognized expert in cosmetic surgery anesthesia, was quoted as the propofol expert in articles concerning Michael Jackson's death in People and Globe magazines. Earlier this year, Dr. Friedberg says that "Michael Jackson appears to have died from propofol over-medication that caused his breathing to stop."

Friedberg says three essential items appeared to have been critically absent from the situation at Jackson's home.
First, by his own public statements, Jackson's physician Dr. Conrad Murray was not in the room when he stopped breathing.

Second, there was no visible pulse oximeter (a blood oxygen meter) in the photos publicly published of Jackson's bedroom.

Third, a brain monitor could have measured the effects of propofol separately from the benzodiazepines also found in Jackson's system. The brain monitor would have measured Jackson's response to the unintentional over-medication of propofol that eventually stopped Jackson's breathing.
On August 24, the Los Angeles coroner announced they'd ruled propofol was the primary cause of Jackson's death on June 25. They also ruled that it was a homicide, which is legally defined as death at the hands of another, but does not necessarily mean that a crime was committed. This ruling does make prosecution easier however. Dr. Murray has not been charged with any crime but is the focus of the homicide investigation.

http://www.americanhealthandbeauty.com/articles/?article=2363

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Second, there was no visible pulse oximeter (a blood oxygen meter) in the photos publicly published of Jackson's bedroom.

murray claims he was using one.

 

[Beachlover]

I work in a University Hospital and they use Propofol and many other drugs for surgical procedures and I have NEVER ever ever (not one time) seen anyone brain monitored on this.

I have seen heart monitor and pulse oximetry ALWAYS along with a CODE CART (which contains all the standard things for basic life support and emergencies).

With Propofol you first stop breathing. All that would have been necessary is to use an Ambu Bag (to keep him breathing and oxygenated). The most basic thing was not done...but I believe that is because he was not even aware that MJ stopped breathing when it happened and by the time he found him it was too late.

 

[Ramona122003]

It does not matter if he had the entire ER in the room. It is all pointless if the person who is suppose to be watching him is not in the freaking room.

 

[aliana101]

He wasn't even supposed to be using that at a PERSON"S HOUSE FOR SLEEPING!!!!!!!

 

[indranee]

none of this would be needed if the dude had just fucking STAYED IN THE ROOM.

 

[Sophielo]

I don't care what wasn't and what was in the room. The one thing that should have been in that room was Murray and because he wasn't a man is dead, millions of people around the world have had their hearts broken, a mother has lost a son, siblings have lost a brother, and three beautiful children will now have to grow up without their beloved father.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

It does not matter if he had the entire ER in the room. It is all pointless if the person who is suppose to be watching him is not in the freaking room.

very true

 

[dangerous_88]

depressing....

 

[Limonali]

It does not matter if he had the entire ER in the room. It is all pointless if the person who is suppose to be watching him is not in the freaking room.

this.

 

[terrell]

Lord have mercy. This is just too much. I would have NEVER though MJ would have died like this. This was a senseless death. this is why I say God did not take Michael and MJ was NOT meant to die young. MANKIND can cause things to happen that was not meant to happen. This was MJ year and he was being blessed to give a comeback but Mj was warned about this drug and this idoit doctor did not do what a doctor was suppose to do and stand by standard and ethnics and NOT use this drug in a home in the first place.

 

[terrell]

I don't care what wasn't and what was in the room. The one thing that should have been in that room was Murray and because he wasn't a man is dead, millions of people around the world have had their hearts broken, a mother has lost a son, siblings have lost a brother, and three beautiful children will now have to grow up without their beloved father.

So true and it hurts like crazy.

 

[terrell]

He wasn't even supposed to be using that at a PERSON"S HOUSE FOR SLEEPING!!!!!!!

THANK YOU!! This would have taken care of everything. DOING THE RIGHT THING AND NOT USING THIS drug for sleep in a HOME. I am so angry.

 

[Beachlover]

THANK YOU!! This would have taken care of everything. DOING THE RIGHT THING AND NOT USING THIS drug for sleep in a HOME. I am so angry.

The sad thing is that he chose Murray to do this for him and he turned out not to be the best man for the job. He chose poorly.

 

[whateverhappens50]

*cries*

 

[Beachlover]

*cries*

(((((((Hugs))))))))

 

[bgz]

Guess I've missed something here and need to read up on it, but virtually everyday I work one of my patients is on Propofol and I've never even seen a "brain" monitor used on anyone. Surely he doesn't mean an EEG machine? Maybe it's something used in the OR during anesthesia?

And have to go with everyone else, no machine or monitoring in the world would save someone if no one is actually keeping watch on the monitoring.

 

[Beachlover]

Guess I've missed something here and need to read up on it, but virtually everyday I work one of my patients is on Propofol and I've never even seen a "brain" monitor used on anyone. Surely he doesn't mean an EEG machine? Maybe it's something used in the OR during anesthesia?

And have to go with everyone else, no machine or monitoring in the world would save someone if no one is actually keeping watch on the monitoring.

Nope, never saw this in the OR either. Sounds like someone didn't do their homework before reporting.

 

[Kingofpop4ever3000]

THANK YOU!! This would have taken care of everything. DOING THE RIGHT THING AND NOT USING THIS drug for sleep in a HOME. I am so angry.

Me too. This was so senseless. No reason for it at all. I've never been so mad and disgusted in my whole life.

 

[terrell]

The sad thing is that he chose Murray to do this for him and he turned out not to be the best man for the job. He chose poorly.

So true. And this is why I hold Murray even more. Murray is the doctor and should have told Jackson NO WAY will he use this med but NO this doctor, who was in great debt, when along with it and gave it to MJ. Now look, MJ is dead, Murray is still in debt even more now, no career, and may got to jail all because Murray could NOT do the right ETHICAL thing.

 

[indranee]

yes, he did it for the money.

 

[MJJ7777]

Just knowing his death was that much more preventable is just terrible and hard to accept.

Its one thing when you know you couldn't do anything from ending up here but its another when you know a million things could have been done in a matter of time and with common sense...

 

[wendy2004]

It does not matter if he had the entire ER in the room. It is all pointless if the person who is suppose to be watching him is not in the freaking room.

none of this would be needed if the dude had just fucking STAYED IN THE ROOM.

Yep!

I don't care what wasn't and what was in the room. The one thing that should have been in that room was Murray and because he wasn't a man is dead, millions of people around the world have had their hearts broken, a mother has lost a son, siblings have lost a brother, and three beautiful children will now have to grow up without their beloved father.

Guess I've missed something here and need to read up on it, but virtually everyday I work one of my patients is on Propofol and I've never even seen a "brain" monitor used on anyone. Surely he doesn't mean an EEG machine? Maybe it's something used in the OR during anesthesia?

And have to go with everyone else, no machine or monitoring in the world would save someone if no one is actually keeping watch on the monitoring.

Absolutely!

Just knowing his death was that much more preventable is just terrible and hard to accept.

Its one thing when you know you couldn't do anything from ending up here but its another when you know a million things could have been done in a matter of time and with common sense...

This is so true. It's the idea that this was so preventable that hurts the most. All Murray had to do was be there.
Time is precious when someone stops breathing. Even if they survive they could suffer brain damage depending on how long they were without oxygen. It was CRITICAL for him to be there from the onset.

And I think this expert is just giving his opinion on what he feels would have been useful, nothing more nothing less? I'm sure this is going to be an issue if there's a trial. Various experts will have various opinions, but again, they will ALL agree that Murray being absent was a detrimental mistake all things considered.

 

[adrianmonk]

agreed with everyone here... ALWAYS monitor the patient that's just common sense. it makes me sad that someone in the medical field would have such disrespect for the LIFE they are trusted with

 

[aliana101]

It's so unfair how stupidly it ended.

 

[steve demon]

I don't want to think about what devices that could have been used to keep him alive when the medication shouldn't have even been available to him.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

ifs and but tear u up. i spend time thinking about the idiots (the goverment created it i believe) who created the millenium dome (the orginal name for the 02).it was a big thing at the time arguments etc because it just became a white elephant that was a total waste of money and time until it became the 02. i think what if that stupid idea never happened. no dome no 02 mj would still be here. its stupid i know

 

[mjbunny]

Guess I've missed something here and need to read up on it, but virtually everyday I work one of my patients is on Propofol and I've never even seen a "brain" monitor used on anyone. Surely he doesn't mean an EEG machine? Maybe it's something used in the OR during anesthesia?

I've heard about a new movement toward 'consciousness monitoring' during general anesthesia, but not for the purpose of saving lives, since for that you simply need the usual equipment (heart monitor, pulse oximeter, etc) and for the freakin' doctor to not leave the room (!!!!). Brain monitoring is being increasingly used as a safeguard against the event in which patients 'wake up' during surgery and can feel the surgery taking place (pain, etc) but are anesthetized and cannot alert the surgery team to their predicament. I think this says somethign about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intraoperative_awareness

But again, if a certain doctor wouldn't have given his patient valium, two benzos and then general anesthesia and then left him unattended for God knows how long, Michael would most likely be with us (and his children) today.

 

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Natural Ways to Treat and Cure Insomnia
By Vishal | 60 Comments

Though sleeping pills can bring some relief initially, the dangers associated with it far outweigh it’s benefits. A holistic approach involving analyzing the state of mind, dietary habits and lifestyle can give permanent relief. The following natural remedies have helped me a lot in overcoming my insomnia and I believe will help you too in getting a deep, peaceful sleep day after day.

Meditate for 15 minutes or so before going to bed. Majority of the sleep problems is due to the inability of our mind to be able to relax and be in the present moment. In one study conducted, the researchers found that our mental state during bedtime determined the levels of cortisol (stress hormone) in the blood the following morning. So those who were stressed during bedtime had high levels of cortisol compared to those with a blissful state of mind prior to sleep. So if you spend your bedtime planning and worrying about the next day, your mind dutifully obliges by staying busy throughout your sleep! Meditation is only way you can keep your mind under control. Therefore the more you meditate, the less busier your mind will be and the more restful your sleep will be. It’s that simple.
As far as possible, go to bed by 10 p.m. According to Ayurveda and research, it is easiest to fall asleep and the quality of rest is deeper if we go to bed before 10 p.m. You must have experienced it yourself. If you take up any stimulating activity like talking to a friend or watching an interesting movie after 10 p.m you may find your sleep disappear and also unrefreshing.
An exception to above rule, go to bed only when you feel drowsy. Going to bed before feeling sleepy can create anxiety regarding arrival of sleep, the major cause of sleeplessness. If you don’t fall asleep within half an hour of going to sleep, wake up and meditate or read a book. The same is suggested for those who find themselves awake in the middle of the night. Don’t fret or fight to get sleep. Any effort to get sleep will only make it worse. Remember that a calm, relaxed and peaceful mind is the best facilitator for a deep, restful sleep.
Follow the time tested rule of having a king-size breakfast, a medium-sized lunch, and a small dinner. Having heavy meals prior to bedtime puts stress on the digestive system and prevents you from having deep sleep. A light diet rich in carbohydrates like bread or cereals is the most recommended. Unless milk products causes distress to you, the age old remedy of having a glass of milk prior to bed-time does indeed facilitates better sleep. Fatty and oily foods, sweets, ice-creams are stimulating and difficult to digest, so avoid them.
If you find yourself worrying over the onset of sleep, listen to calm soothing music or some audio books to distract yourself. One of the main reasons Insomniacs find it hard to fall asleep is because they think too much about sleep.
Drink lots of water. According to Chinese medicine waking up many times during the night can be due to weakness of the Jing which is stored in the kidneys. Drinking plenty of water flushes out toxins and help support the kidneys. However, minimize your intake of water after 6 pm to prevent sleep disturbance due to need for urinating.
Massage your body with oil 1-2 times a week prior to having a bath. Oil massage is an effective way to de-stress. Apart from de-stressing and relaxing, it offers host of benefits like elimination of toxins from the body, lubricate joints, improve complexion and relieve fatigue and increase energy levels.
For most people, sesame oil will do. However, some may find it a bit hot. They can use coconut oil instead. One can even add few drops of aromatherapy oils to enhance the experience. An herbalist can specify the right blend depending on your constitution.

Warm the oil a bit. Not on direct flame! Heat little water in a wide bottom dish and then place the oil container over this water to heat the oil. Massage the oil all over your body with circular motion over flat areas like abdomen and chest and straight strokes for arms and legs. Let the oil stand for at least half and hour and then have a warm shower.

Limit your intake on chocolates, colas or foods containing caffeine prior to bedtime. Caffeine stimulates your brain and makes it difficult for you to fall asleep. Same is the case with smoking.
Exercise regularly. As exercising increases alertness and raises body temperature, doing it around 4 hours before time makes the body temperature fall down during sleep, facilitating faster sleep. However, exercising close to bedtime can stimulate you and disrupt your sleep patterns.
Too vigorous (to exhaustion) exercises must also be avoided. Our body recharges and repairs itself during sleep and the more vigorous and demanding your exercise, the better sleep you need for your body to recharge to its optimum. But as sleep is poor in insomniacs, their body cannot recharge itself and if the routine is continued, fatigue can result in.

Update:
Here are some more natural remedies collected from various sources that will help you sleep better:

Ensure that the room you sleep in has adequate ventilation and is peaceful.
Do a small prayer before retiring to reduce stress.
Reading good, inspiring books will help you sleep better.
Two drops of sesame/castor oil applied to foot and eyelids will make you sleepy.
A blue colored bed lamp will calm the brain and induce peaceful sleep.
Certain classical music ragas like Bhairavi can work wonders on hard core insomniacs.
Soak your feet in warm water for ten minutes before retiring.
Take deep breaths. With each breath you inhale, smile and imagine you breathe in happiness and positive energy, and with each outgoing breath imagine you are exhaling stress, worries and tension.

 

[144000]

wow..the term 'homicide' sounds ominous, as it should sound, like the lawmakers wanted it to sound, but they define it in such a way as to them being able to get away with it, if they committed it, along with those who take the time to define it, at the times they wish to define it, along with them wanting someone to get away with it at the particular time they took the time to define it, for 'some' reason.