The other siblings- What do they do??

nieces / nephews

What about Michael's grown nieces / nephews? I saw 'Siggy' Jackson & hes cute!! lol. Are the kids of the Jackson 5 in the music business too? Fashion?? Art??

Brandi Jackson, I can't remember whose daughter she is, what does she do? Shes very pretty.

Good looks run in the family.:cheeky:
 
Thank you!

Thanks, Ramona.

So many people wonder why Michael did not leave his family in charge of his estate. All of his life it's only been what they could take from Michael. Mind u this is not all of his siblings, but quite a few of them. And yes, Randy did drive Michael into bankruptcy. It's a wonder Michael was so sad and kept his distance from his siblings. He loved them, but they were not as close in the last few years as people might believe. Look at those that are constantly trying to prove that Michael was not in his right mind when he signed his will. If MJ understood anything, it was business contracts. Unfortunately, some of the people he trusted to be in charge were not the best choices. I support his executors and say stick to your guns! Michael and his kids would have nothing if not for those guys. They already have quite a bit of his debt payed off. The estate should start to really earn money over the next few months and years. I just hope that these guys can keep Jermaine and Joe from trying to take over Neverland.
 
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Thanks, Ramona.

So many people wonder why Michael did not leave his family in charge of his estate. All of his life it's only been what they could take from Michael. Mind u this is not all of his siblings, but quite a few of them. And yes, Randy did drive Michael into bankruptcy. It's a wonder Michael was so sad and kept his distance from his siblings. He loved them, but they were not as close in the last few years as people might believe. Look at those that are constantly trying to prove that Michael was not in his right mind when he signed his will. If MJ understood anything, it was business contracts. Unfortunately, some of the people he trusted to be in charge were not the best choices. I support his executors and say stick to your guns! Michael and his kids would have nothing if not for those guys. They already have quite a bit of his debt payed off. The estate should start to really earn money over the next few months and years. I just hope that these guys can keep Jermaine and Joe from trying to take over Neverland.

I agree with 95% of your post, but I disagree about the part about the family trying to hijack the money. Sorry, MJ has to take responsibility for his own actions regarding his finances. MJ owed millions to alot people not just within the last few years though. He own producers, directors, lawyers. It takes a lot more than what randy did to turn a couple hundred million dollar fortune into a deficit. Lets be honest here. I do agree the family should just stay out of the estate and let it be. They will benefit anyways from it somehow down the line.
 
This is sworn testimony in court, so these are Michael's words. Chose to believe him or not, these are in actually court docs and he swore these words in court.

Also, you blame for Brance seems more personally than base on any facts. From what I have seen the people who 'work' close to Michael just want to get into his estate and they are during that by throwing water on Brance.

Michael made it very clear in his wills who he trusted and I doubt someone would bother to forge two wills. But hey, feel free to keep believing what you want. Facts obviously does nothing to change your mind.

Brance got the estate out of debt faster than anyone expecting, so he is doing a poor job on the bankrupt plan. But, this also obviously a moot point for you as well, so I won't bother to waste my breath on you any further.
My understanding that it never went to court about this matter, how is that michael sworn testimony in court?
 
Wasn't Johnnie Cohran (sp?) who recommended Mesereau?
 
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I agree with 95% of your post, but I disagree about the part about the family trying to hijack the money. Sorry, MJ has to take responsibility for his own actions regarding his finances. MJ owed millions to alot people not just within the last few years though. He own producers, directors, lawyers. It takes a lot more than what randy did to turn a couple hundred million dollar fortune into a deficit. Lets be honest here. I do agree the family should just stay out of the estate and let it be. They will benefit anyways from it somehow down the line.

he did try to make him sell the ATV catalogue, that would've ruined MJ what was Randy thinking?
 
I agree with 95% of your post, but I disagree about the part about the family trying to hijack the money. Sorry, MJ has to take responsibility for his own actions regarding his finances. MJ owed millions to alot people not just within the last few years though.
show me evidence of that then please. funny how everything went tists up and lawsuits were coming from all directions as soon as randy got nvovled all for non payment by the accountants randy brought in to help mj. no major issues b4 that. coincedence?

My understanding that it never went to court about this matter, how is that michael sworn testimony in cour
he gave a deposition which is a sworn statement that can be used in court
 
BTW speaking of MJ's 'finacial woes' can someone confirm how much MJ was to get paid for This Is It? Dr. Murray, was supposed to be paid $150,000 a month,during this time, if I'm not mistaken. Correct??
 
show me evidence of that then please. funny how everything went tists up and lawsuits were coming from all directions as soon as randy got nvovled all for non payment by the accountants randy brought in to help mj. no major issues b4 that. coincedence?


he gave a deposition which is a sworn statement that can be used in court
Is this michael speaking or is it someone else saying this is what michael said? this did not go to court that's my understanding, and how would this just be floating around? I had mention before michael sent a statement through raymone bain defending randy saying randy did not take any money from him and he would not. michael knew randy tryed to help him, michael and randy remained close.
 
Is this michael speaking or is it someone else saying this is what michael said? this did not go to court that's my understanding, and how would this just be floating around? I had mention before michael sent a statement through raymone bain defending randy saying randy did not take any money from him and he would not. michael knew randy tryed to help him, michael and randy remained close.
I remember the case because i was following it just as much as other fans whowere intersted.
I remember that there were 2 separate loans that were outstanding, but Mj had just had the larger loan secured with a sony restructuring deal, however, it was the smaller loan of around $27 millionthat Mj had trouble paying and was worried that he might default on it.
Randy went out looking for a finacier to take over the small loan in order to stave off a default, and he went to his friends the dash brothers, i'm not sure of the name.
the brothers secured 2 separate loans, one to pay off the short loan and a second, of about $500 millions which they claimed they secured for Mj to buy out the rest of the sony catalogue.
Randy's only involvement with the brothers was to bring them to Mj and it was Mj who was involved with the negotiations with the brothers. as I remember it.
Just before a deal was signed Mj's small loan was sold to another company RF reported it in the media.
Mj decided not to continue with the negotiations with the brothers, but to go directly to the new loan holder, and securing a better interest rate.
the brothers were very irated because they claimed that they had done a lot of work and they sued Mj for commission to the tune of $50mil. that was wittled down to about $5 million and Mj settled with them out of court.
randy's name was never mentioned as part of the lawsuit at all. and as I remember, there was no actual cash available for randy to steal. Randy was working flat out trying to secure cash for Mj to pay his bills cause there was no money coming in. even jessie jackson had to help out at one stage.
jermaine got the Prince of Bharain pouring millions into Grace's bank account for Mj to pay his bills. Grace testified in court that she recieved that money from the prince during the trial. the Prince was also a part of the Sony loan restructuring. these people were trying their best to help Mj to save his assets, not steal his money. That is the other side of the story.
 
Re: nieces / nephews

What about Michael's grown nieces / nephews? I saw 'Siggy' Jackson & hes cute!! lol. Are the kids of the Jackson 5 in the music business too? Fashion?? Art??

Brandi Jackson, I can't remember whose daughter she is, what does she do? Shes very pretty.

Good looks run in the family.:cheeky:
siggy is working on his rap career, he was in aaliyah's video "more than a woman"... he was riding the motorcycle

brandi is adopted, we'll that's what i've heard for years so who knows. when she was a kid she was in some LA Gear commercial and advertisements with michael. i don't know what she does now.
 
randy's name was never mentioned as part of the lawsuit at all. and as I remember, there was no actual cash available for randy to steal. Randy was working flat out trying to secure cash for Mj to pay his bills cause there was no money coming in. even jessie jackson had to help out at one stage.
jermaine got the Prince of Bharain pouring millions into Grace's bank account for Mj to pay his bills. Grace testified in court that she recieved that money from the prince during the trial. the Prince was also a part of the Sony loan restructuring. these people were trying their best to help Mj to save his assets, not steal his money. That is the other side of the story.

sorry but u were called out on this on the kop board by ppl who actually saw and had the legal documents in relation to these cases. and the prince of bahrain was never involved in the sony loan as was shown to you many times. the pince of bahrain was summed up with the fact he sued mj for payment for a tub of haggen das ice yet gave jermaines rolls royces in order to talk mj into going to bahrain and working with a non exsitant record label.ontop of thefact he had mj in a recording studio the day after june 13th 05.

you are someone who for years refused to believe and argued that the private loan mj had was actually a business loan to do with sony and the cat. you were shown to be wrong many times by the ppl who had the court documents.then suddenly you changed your tune and started blaming mj saying he had no money when for years you argued the opposite.
 
and then sued him for everything including the haggen das.randy screwed up big time as he was only intrested in the cut he was getting offered by ppl to get mj to sell the cat and take out loans with ppl that were illogical in a business sense.just sums it up when u are on trial fighting for your life and family members are pressuring u to sell off you biggest asset cause they are gonna get a cut from the deal no matter how bad the deal was
THANK YOU!! How can any sane person support, abusive children and women beaters also an rapists is beyond me.
 
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Is this michael speaking or is it someone else saying this is what michael said? this did not go to court that's my understanding, and how would this just be floating around? I had mention before michael sent a statement through raymone bain defending randy saying randy did not take any money from him and he would not. michael knew randy tryed to help him, michael and randy remained close.
mj gave a sworn deposition that was recorded and released that is where the info came from and the articles etc that were written at the time about it
 
THANK YOU!! How can any sane person support abusive child and women beater also an rapist is beyond me.

pleasure. im tired of certain posters lieing because of their issues with mj to fans who werent here at the time and and who wont know any better about what went on then or the poster who the info is coming from
 
sorry but u were called out on this on the kop board by ppl who actually saw and had the legal documents in relation to these cases. and the prince of bahrain was never involved in the sony loan as was shown to you many times. the pince of bahrain was summed up with the fact he sued mj for payment for a tub of haggen das ice yet gave jermaines rolls royces in order to talk mj into going to bahrain and working with a non exsitant record label.ontop of thefact he had mj in a recording studio the day after june 13th 05.

you are someone who for years refused to believe and argued that the private loan mj had was actually a business loan to do with sony and the cat. you were shown to be wrong many times by the ppl who had the court documents.then suddenly you changed your tune and started blaming mj saying he had no money when for years you argued the opposite.
Why are you always trying to argue with me? If you disagree with my post just stayed your case and stop trying to make this a personal battle. i have nothing personal against you. if you want to battle with me take it to pm.
 
Why are you always trying to argue with me? I
im not arguing im posting my opinion and facts that contridicte what you are posting, if u call someone else having a different opinion to u as arguing then perhaps you shouldnt go on mess boards

if you want to battle with me take it to pm.
iam not battling just pointing out the false statements that you make. taking it to PM would not allow ppl who are knew to this board to know the history you have on this board and others
 
I remember the case because i was following it just as much as other fans whowere intersted.
I remember that there were 2 separate loans that were outstanding, but Mj had just had the larger loan secured with a sony restructuring deal, however, it was the smaller loan of around $27 millionthat Mj had trouble paying and was worried that he might default on it.
Randy went out looking for a finacier to take over the small loan in order to stave off a default, and he went to his friends the dash brothers, i'm not sure of the name.
the brothers secured 2 separate loans, one to pay off the short loan and a second, of about $500 millions which they claimed they secured for Mj to buy out the rest of the sony catalogue.
Randy's only involvement with the brothers was to bring them to Mj and it was Mj who was involved with the negotiations with the brothers. as I remember it.
Just before a deal was signed Mj's small loan was sold to another company RF reported it in the media.
Mj decided not to continue with the negotiations with the brothers, but to go directly to the new loan holder, and securing a better interest rate.
the brothers were very irated because they claimed that they had done a lot of work and they sued Mj for commission to the tune of $50mil. that was wittled down to about $5 million and Mj settled with them out of court.
randy's name was never mentioned as part of the lawsuit at all. and as I remember, there was no actual cash available for randy to steal. Randy was working flat out trying to secure cash for Mj to pay his bills cause there was no money coming in. even jessie jackson had to help out at one stage.
jermaine got the Prince of Bharain pouring millions into Grace's bank account for Mj to pay his bills. Grace testified in court that she recieved that money from the prince during the trial. the Prince was also a part of the Sony loan restructuring. these people were trying their best to help Mj to save his assets, not steal his money. That is the other side of the story.
Your side of the story sound more true than what i have herd from the other perspective, for michael to make a statement to defend randy during that time, lets me know that michael knew randy did not take any from him and he was'n trying to take any money from michael.
 
Your side of the story sound more true than what i have herd from the other perspective, for michael to make a statement to defend randy during that time, lets me know that michael knew randy did not take any from him and he was'n trying to take any money from michael.
thank you very much.I love my family very much but even my mother will tell you that I never compromise where truth is concerned. i do not have to tell lies on any one, I became a fan of Michael's because I was affected by the lies the media was telling on him. i came looking for the truth. i would do the same for anyone I feel are being victimised. i cannot help myself.
 
im not arguing im posting my opinion and facts that contridicte what you are posting, if u call someone else having a different opinion to u as arguing then perhaps you shouldnt go on mess boards


iam not battling just pointing out the false statements that you make. taking it to PM would not allow ppl who are knew to this board to know the history you have on this board and others
Well said but I guess, stating the truth is called now ''arguing''.
 
I'd image they'd be involved/have different companies... but who knows.

Jackie is a bit of a producer.. he's working with his son Siggy. I also read he started an internet clothing business, have no idea if that's true.

I read Marlon works in real estate and is part owner of a cable network channel.

also an rapists is beyond me.

wow. we don't know anyone is a rapist.
 
JErmaine was charged for attempting to rape Hazel Gordy, those charges were dropped only due to a technicality. Read Margaret Marlando's book. He is just as abusive as his father in due time he will have to answer his god.
 
he's also a dead beat dad who gave up parental rights for two of his kids, but that's another story
 
out of all the Jackson brothers, it seems that MJ was the most normal & sincere.
 
he definitely was the sweetest, most caring, most sensitive
 
sorry but u were called out on this on the kop board by ppl who actually saw and had the legal documents in relation to these cases. and the prince of bahrain was never involved in the sony loan as was shown to you many times. the pince of bahrain was summed up with the fact he sued mj for payment for a tub of haggen das ice yet gave jermaines rolls royces in order to talk mj into going to bahrain and working with a non exsitant record label.ontop of thefact he had mj in a recording studio the day after june 13th 05.

you are someone who for years refused to believe and argued that the private loan mj had was actually a business loan to do with sony and the cat. you were shown to be wrong many times by the ppl who had the court documents.then suddenly you changed your tune and started blaming mj saying he had no money when for years you argued the opposite.

yeah I remember that very well, she was always saying before MJ's death SONY took the loan and MJ had nothing to do with it, he had no obligation to pay any penny and all that talk about refinancing was a complete fabrications from the media , she was confronted by many posters there and she still carried with her story .

later after MJ's death when war against the family especially Randy started on kop discussion board after articles appeared everywhere explaining why Randy and the siblings had no business trying to throw the executors out , IVYMAY changed her tune, suddenly mj was a known addict, was broke as hell, the loan was his , he disappointed his family , they were always there for him , he backsatbbed them . oh my God .

now she is saying Randy did nothing wrong at the time . :smilerolleyes:and this is based on her accounts because she followed the case as everyone else ? but you fought everyone that mentioned MJ had a loan against his share in the beatles catalogue? how could this fact escape your memory 3 years ? you now remember there were two loans but for three years you argued with people and refused to believe MJ got a loan in the first place , does that even make sense ?
 
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I remember the case because i was following it just as much as other fans whowere intersted.
I remember that there were 2 separate loans that were outstanding, but Mj had just had the larger loan secured with a sony restructuring deal, however, it was the smaller loan of around $27 millionthat Mj had trouble paying and was worried that he might default on it.
Randy went out looking for a finacier to take over the small loan in order to stave off a default, and he went to his friends the dash brothers, i'm not sure of the name.
the brothers secured 2 separate loans, one to pay off the short loan and a second, of about $500 millions which they claimed they secured for Mj to buy out the rest of the sony catalogue.
Randy's only involvement with the brothers was to bring them to Mj and it was Mj who was involved with the negotiations with the brothers. as I remember it.
Just before a deal was signed Mj's small loan was sold to another company RF reported it in the media.
Mj decided not to continue with the negotiations with the brothers, but to go directly to the new loan holder, and securing a better interest rate.
the brothers were very irated because they claimed that they had done a lot of work and they sued Mj for commission to the tune of $50mil. that was wittled down to about $5 million and Mj settled with them out of court.
randy's name was never mentioned as part of the lawsuit at all. and as I remember, there was no actual cash available for randy to steal. Randy was working flat out trying to secure cash for Mj to pay his bills cause there was no money coming in. even jessie jackson had to help out at one stage.
jermaine got the Prince of Bharain pouring millions into Grace's bank account for Mj to pay his bills. Grace testified in court that she recieved that money from the prince during the trial. the Prince was also a part of the Sony loan restructuring. these people were trying their best to help Mj to save his assets, not steal his money. That is the other side of the story.

MJ gave a deposition under oath in which he said he had never met or heard of that company , he had never signed a deal with them and had no idea what was they were accusing him of . Randy SIGNED a deal with them as MJ's manager , MJ had never ever agreed to do anything with them it was Randy alone , MJ was negotiating with others at the time , but Randy trapped him in that deal with that company so MJ would have been forced to stopt negotiating with others and refinance through him so he would get paid under the table .

in the same deposition MJ talked about Randy and his friend trying to force him to sell the catalogue when he did not agree to sign the refinancing deal .He admitted at some point he was so desperate that he really considered selling it to make everything go away . But Ron Burkle was calling him day night begging him : "DON'T SIGN , DON'T SIGN ANY PAPER MICHAEL" .

MJ issued a statement denying he called Randy a thief , but what else did you expect from him ? the man even settled the case because the only way to fight that company was to go after his own brother . He preferred to pay instead of putting Randy's ass in jail .

and how Randy returned the favor? He asked Roger Friedman to write a lengthy article on MJ's drug and alcohol addiction , being out of it all the time ...etc .

Randy was bitter because he was thrown out without anything and he was also exposed , he had no chance to be hired again , MJ exposed him . Not to mention the lawyers and accountants hired by him who also failed to pay anyone especially once MJ left the U.S , they were lawyers and they knew if they were busted they would be in deep shit but someone with authority made them feel MJ would have never questioned Randy . that was randy himself , that explains the threats made by Randy in the media to sue MJ , Roger talked about that also . Brian Oxman also sued MJ when mj sued the lawyers and accountants , he lost. the point was to prove mj did not pay the lawyers himself , and randy was not the problem .


as for the prince of Bahrain , Grace had a million dollar in her account sent by the prince during the trial , MJ did not ask him for anything according to Grace testimony , MJ did not know him in the first place , Jermaine told the prince to shower MJ and HIMSELF with presents so mj would feel obligated to return the favor at some point which indeed happened , mj went to Bahrain , he thought the prince was sincer, the prince had other plans for him at the time, MJ meant business to him . He signed a very very poor contract with little to no financial benefits to MJ at the time and above that the other part was a non existing company FICTIONAL company . He was blackmailed by that contract to stay , and God knows what else he was asked to do , maybe some here don't know what kind of 'favors' some of the Sheikhs expect from their 'friends' and I have NO DOUBT he at some point was asked to do them . you can imagine .

he was exactly like Prince Alwaleed , they did not need MJ's money , but they want the exposures , it just satisfied their egos that Michael Jackson himself needed their support .

Prince Alwaleed's people even started a rumour in 2002 and 2003 claiming that at some point in 1998 MJ knelt on his knees and begged him infront of people to not stop investing in MJ's companies because that meant his financial ruin .

so it was never for free , he was seen as a business venture , and in some way a means to satisfy some egoistic princes .
 
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