the nanny Grace Rawaramba

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I was wondering what happend to Grace Rawaramba? I saw debbie telling that she is wonderfull with the kids in her interview. but thome fired her twice? why? what happend there? and is she in contact know with the kids?
or is it only katherine and the other fam members who take care of the kids??
 
Michael fired and hired her back several times and at the time of his passing she was not working for him. Later she was brought back and looked after the kids for some time, but was fired again around the time of the stun gun incident.
 
yeah but why? and i read that thome fired her... she was around the kids for solong they loved her its strange to fire hire and fire her then... strange for the kids also?
 
All I know is she spent time with Michael and the kids for his birthday in 08. I don't know what transpired after that. If Mchael didn't agree that she should be fired he could have re hired like he did with Raymone after trial. It was reported in 07 thouugh that Grace had remarried
 
Ask her on her facebook.maybe mj found out she was gonna sell him out to murdoch.who knows.but the fact she was selling herself to the devil around june 09 i guess shows mj was right
 
Ask her on her facebook.maybe mj found out she was gonna sell him out to murdoch.who knows.but the fact she was selling herself to the devil around june 09 i guess shows mj was right

Do you mean Murdoch as in Rupert Murdoch??? So she was selling him out to the press??
 
There is a picture of Grace with Paris on her facebook that looks recent so maybe she is back in their lives? I know after the stun gun incident she was gone and some in the press (if to be believed) said Paris didn't want Grace around anymore.
 
Ask her on her facebook.maybe mj found out she was gonna sell him out to murdoch.who knows.but the fact she was selling herself to the devil around june 09 i guess shows mj was right

There you go!

And frankly, I think we will see an exclusive interview when this trial is over from her, mark my words. Don't know why that backstabbing interview she did right before MJ passed never aired, but somehow I think we will be hearing from her one way or the other.
 
There's many reasons why Michael wanted her out of his life and why she kept coming back. With the risk of many Grace fans here I don't wanna say more and most of you probably knows the stories already, I can't verify all of them, what I do know is what I've seen and heard myself.

And non of the kids wanted her to stay when she came back the last time after Michael past, so not only Paris.
 
how do you know the kids didnt want her back? Could be some tabloid story.. We dont know what really happens sometimes.. Debbie said she was really good for and to the kids.. and i believe thome fired her not michael, we all know that thome wanted everybody away from michael.
Im maybe behind, but i never read anything neg about her, maybe my fault so be not pissed at me for that, thats maybe why i started the topic. and if there is a picture there from recent time that says she was allowed there.. dont know how its now...
 
Why is that even important to you?.. Are you truly aware of the less the flattering things Grace sold to the press just weeks before he went to London? .. She was ready to sell him and throw him under the bus like most others have done. Which means that's not a reliable being to want to have around his kids, especially now that he's gone.
 
yes im not aware. sorry but im upset now! i dont know everything im not english i dont see us and uk tv so i dont see that, i though that we are all fans here, and i thought we could be loving towards each other, and help each other.
By asking i wanna know is that so bad? why is it not possible to just be respectfull and help by anwering???
why?
 
yes im not aware. sorry but im upset now! i dont know everything im not english i dont see us and uk tv so i dont see that, i though that we are all fans here, and i thought we could be loving towards each other, and help each other.
By asking i wanna know is that so bad? why is it not possible to just be respectfull and help by anwering???
why?


I'm sorry if I may have seemed like I snapped at you... I responded the best way I could, although I admit I'm not happy when the name of nanny Grace comes up. Because of the shadiness of her character and the wrong things she did..

*hugs*...

Personally, my only means of information about Michael remains this community -- I used to visit other sites for info a few years ago, but not anymore. I'm sure it must be frustrating not receiving information from anywhere, especially about your favorite artist. ..I think people may seem like they are rude when replying at times, but it often may mean that their time is limited, or their patience is low. .. And when a language barrier also intervenes, this may come across as storming out. ..I'm sure it has nothing to do with malice. ...

Again, I apologise for seeming a bit hasty. ..

ps: I will respond to your PM later tonight. Take care!
 
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wow what nice of you thanks! yes its extremly frustrating because like you i also wanna know things and you guys know so that why i ask instead of believe the tabloids :)

big hug!
 
There's many reasons why Michael wanted her out of his life and why she kept coming back. With the risk of many Grace fans here I don't wanna say more and most of you probably knows the stories already, I can't verify all of them, what I do know is what I've seen and heard myself.

And non of the kids wanted her to stay when she came back the last time after Michael past, so not only Paris.

You saw and heard things yourself? Are you close to the family or something?
 
Yeah I'm hesitant to believe what we've only heard through the press. I'm willing to bet that she was asked to leave and may have been angry at the lack of communication in the family. You know michael, he didn't like confrontations and probably didn't fire her face to face and let someone else do it.
 
Grace was good for the kids. For sure.

I heard them in 2005 in London at the Dorchester hotel called her " mommy ". So no doubt she loves these kids, and they love her.

After for the relationship between Mike and Grace, I don't know.

But you don't let your children call a woman " mommy " if you don't like this woman or are not comfortable with her...
 
Well, herself Grace said, after she was fired, that for re-hire, she was offered very little money, ridicules sum, and that is the reason she didn't comeback. Only she regrets that she was let go abruptly, not having chance saying goodbye to the kids. In my opinion, maybe MJJ, wanted to test her devotion: is she nice and lovely nanny because she loves his kids, or she put all that "love" for salary.

It is possible, that she had feelings for Michael, but definitively, failed the "test". If it was me, I would work for MJJ for free, not because I adore (it is hard to speak in past tense), but because of the children. Raising them from the birth, knowing that I am the only person close to mother figure, its not that money in the world, that would make me depart from them. I was disappointed when I heard Grace saying that money at the end was for her an issue to come back to work for Michael.
She also said, that she was surprise that MJJ was acquitted from all charges.

Grace interview is on YT.

In my opinion, she doesn't come across as wise woman, because she worked so many years for Michael as a personal secretary, nanny, followed him around the world, but failed to learn her boss pattern behavior.
In my opinion, Michael was working getting his life/career back on track, cutting off people who were too close to him and his kids for money not for love or friendship.
 
Well, herself Grace said, after she was fired, that for re-hire, she was offered very little money, ridicules sum, and that is the reason she didn't comeback. Only she regrets that she was let go abruptly, not having chance saying goodbye to the kids. In my opinion, maybe MJJ, wanted to test her devotion: is she nice and lovely nanny because she loves his kids, or she put all that "love" for salary.

It is possible, that she had feelings for Michael, but definitively, failed the "test". If it was me, I would work for MJJ for free, not because I adore (it is hard to speak in past tense), but because of the children. Raising them from the birth, knowing that I am the only person close to mother figure, its not that money in the world, that would make me depart from them. I was disappointed when I heard Grace saying that money at the end was for her an issue to come back to work for Michael.
She also said, that she was surprise that MJJ was acquitted from all charges.

Grace interview is on YT.

In my opinion, she doesn't come across as wise woman, because she worked so many years for Michael as a personal secretary, nanny, followed him around the world, but failed to learn her boss pattern behavior.
In my opinion, Michael was working getting his life/career back on track, cutting off people who were too close to him and his kids for money not for love or friendship.

Can you do me a favor by posting a link to the interviews on yt, where she talks about MJs trial, and the one about not coming back to work??? If not can you atleast give me some keywords to use in the search.
 
how do you know the kids didnt want her back? Could be some tabloid story.. We dont know what really happens sometimes.. Debbie said she was really good for and to the kids.. and i believe thome fired her not michael, we all know that thome wanted everybody away from michael.
Im maybe behind, but i never read anything neg about her, maybe my fault so be not pissed at me for that, thats maybe why i started the topic. and if there is a picture there from recent time that says she was allowed there.. dont know how its now...

I know this since I have got the words from two of them directly. I never state something I'm not sure of and I would never say/claim anything just because it's said in a tabloid.
 
Grace was good for the kids. For sure.

I heard them in 2005 in London at the Dorchester hotel called her " mommy ". So no doubt she loves these kids, and they love her.

After for the relationship between Mike and Grace, I don't know.

But you don't let your children call a woman " mommy " if you don't like this woman or are not comfortable with her...
You're wrong, my friend. Or maybe she was good to the kids. They're kids. But she wasn't good to Michael. Not good at all.
 
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