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The Insider: Jo'Vonnie Jackson

jenny* said:
And who are you to say she,s as bad as joe and that she is a hypocrite?
Are we the one who may learned me some other things then judging people like you did in your post.

general: I think it,s disgusting how people trash ad bash michael,s family members.
Is that what he teached us? to hate and judge?
I learned to respect and love people, even tho i not agree with them al the time.

The forum became a place out of control lately.
This is not a place of love and respect anymore ( not all the time)
I,m so sad to see this happen to the community.



*headshaking*
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yes but she's accusing Michael of abandoning her in a way, and she was never abandoned or mistreated by anyone she got all the love and respect from Joe that his "other family" the way Joe used to call them never got
she is using Michael's tragic death to get money and publicity and you say WE are the ones with a problem?
 
not judging her perse but her motives thus far. as far as tabloids go, his siblings would have more to talk about and share than she ever wuold cuz she didn'tknow him. so this could only go one of two ways...her appealing to her family to include her now OR sensationalism
 
pamarella said:
No one on this forum knows what the relationship JoVonnie has with her half-siblings. I don't care what the issues is with Joe and Katherine, JoVonnie didn't asked to be born. She has every right to speak out and share her feelings. If the Jacksons were nasty toward her, then hell yeah she has a right to tell the world about it if that's what she wants to do. The Jacksons can't paint this perfect picture of their family by denying that their own father had a child outside of wedlock. It's not up to none of us to tell her what she should do.

The Jacksons are Jovonnie's family more than they are anyone on this forum. Some of you act like you know everything about the Jackson family and all the intimate details of their lives. You don't know if the Jackson kids have reached out to her. I bet you if she were to talk about how everything is so rosey, none of you would have a problem with it.
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:clapping::clapping::clapping:
I hope the abuse she had didn't come from Mj fans.
 
I think Joh Vonnie statements are interesting. What she says sort of shows that she is upset to not be included in the Jackson family clan. It is one thing to someone sister and another to not be acknowledged. It happens though. I bet it hurts more that people don't include her when talking about the family. However, just because she is Joe Jackson child doesn't mean they have to embrace her into their immediate circle, and that seems to be what she is looking for.IMO. Would it have been nice for them to accept her, sure. However, I can't really blame them because the way everything went down.
 
well janet was bitter towards her in an interview last year when she criticized Joe's affairs but janet has always been like that in general, but why is she complaining about michael? she should leave him alone and it's funny how she singles him out as if she doesn't have 8 other half-siblings, the truth is his entire family with the exception of Janet has been clinging onto him eversince he became this mega-superstar and she's just one of them
and she's not a "bastard child" as in neglected her father always acknowledged her and took care of her...so what's her problem?
 
snowhite said:
well janet was bitter towards her in an interview last year when she criticized Joe's affairs but janet has always been like that in general, but why is she complaining about michael? she should leave him alone and it's funny how she singles him out as if she doesn't have 8 other half-siblings, the truth is his entire family with the exception of Janet has been clinging onto him eversince he became this mega-superstar and she's just one of them
and she's not a "bastard child" as in neglected her father always acknowledged her and took care of her...so what's her problem?
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Which interview?
 
snowhite said:
well janet was bitter towards her in an interview last year when she criticized Joe's affairs but janet has always been like that in general, but why is she complaining about michael? she should leave him alone and it's funny how she singles him out as if she doesn't have 8 other half-siblings, the truth is his entire family with the exception of Janet has been clinging onto him eversince he became this mega-superstar and she's just one of them
and she's not a "bastard child" as in neglected her father always acknowledged her and took care of her...so what's her problem?
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Vonnie was hurt cause latoya called her a bastard child Latoya and Janet kept her out their circle as for the other siblings they do them they don't have time to be reaching out to her i guess its cause she calls their father daddy something they wasn't allowed to do who to say if vonnie telling the truth cause some of these jacksons hasn't got their story straight sense MJ died thats my opinion
 
I don't know how the rest of you feel, but personally I'm disgusted by Joh'Vonnie Jacksons behavior at a time like this. This is not about her, her mother or the Jackson siblings. Right now this is Michael's time and that's what we should be concentrating on. She was part of some of the family functions. For her to come out now all of sudden to whine and cry and get sympathy from the public is nauseating. It was Katherine's children who worked their fingers to the bone to bring in a good life for the Jackson family. True it's not her fault she was born. However, she needs to take those issues up with her father Joseph and that mother of hers! The rest of the family has no obligation to her financially. That's what this is all about. She wants money. She has had a decent life at the expense of her famous half-siblings. They never had the love that Joseph showed her. As a matter of fact she lives with Joseph in Las Vegas. So what is she whining about?! I think he should put a muzzle on this kid too!
 
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MrsMJ2007 said:
I don't know how the rest of you feel, but personally I'm disgusted by Joh'Vonnie Jacksons behavior at a time like this. This is not about her, her mother or the Jackson siblings. Right now this is Michael's time and that's what we should be concentrating on. She was part of some of the family functions. For her to come out now all of sudden to whine and cry and get sympathy from the public is nauseating. It was Katherine's children who worked their fingers to the bone to bring in a good life for the Jackson family. True it's not her fault she was born. However, she needs to take those issues up with her father Joseph and that mother of hers! The rest of the family has no obligation to her financially. That's what this is all about. She wants money. She has had a decent life at the expense of her famous half-siblings. They never had the love that Joseph showed her. As a matter of fact she lives with Joseph in Las Vegas. So what is she whining about?! I think he should put a muzzle on this kid too![/QUOTE

My opinion on it exactly!
And of course they were not going to exept her easily, it would have been so hard for them!
What she was saying, to me sounded selfish in ways, especially coming out with this after his death!
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Soso Deaf said:
here's a person who is proof your father stepped out on your mother.

your father never gave you affection, never let u call him 'daddy' and never hugged u. he does it for that child.

your mother is hurt, this child has the potential to ruin your little 'picture perfect' family, and above all, there doesn't seem to be any loyalty to the children he had before she was born.

i can understand y they want nothing ot do w/ her. even out of respect for their mother. maybe it'll change once she passes but for rightnow, haning out w/ jo' could be seen as a slap in the face to katherine and that's what she needs to realize

she wants to say she's so griefstricken. but in reality, is she grieving as a fan or as a sister? she only met him once and never spoke w/ him. so how could her grief be as tremendous as she's portraying?
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One flaw in that SoSoDeaf.
She was invited to Neverland in 2003 & there's a picture to prove it.

In that picture she & her daughter stand above Jermaine & besides Randy to his right. Michael is to Randy's left surrounded by his kids. Michael stands above a sitting Joe & Katherine.

Let me repeat that. A sitting Joe & KATHERINE.

Joh'vonnie is only a few persons away from Katherine herself so what you said just doesn't add up.
Perhaps that was an attempt to smooth over old grudges of the past & perhaps it didn't work out. Or perhaps Katherine herself has buried the hatchet & there's no beef at least on that front.

None of us know the whole facts of the situation but SOMETHING happened that allowed her to be invited to Neverland. It's not like you can just waltz in the place & crash the party.

That picture is very telling to me. And I AGREE with Joh'vonnie that it wasn't right leaving her out of the obituary. She IS Michael's & the other siblings' sister whether they like it or not.

I hope the Jacksons settle things with her one day if they haven't already. How she came into the world wasn't right but there's no need to punish her about it. Blame it on Joe & Cheryl Terrell. Hell, even the Jackson siblings have smoothed over their own love child situations.

Joh'vonnie's life is very interesting to me & life dealing with her estrangement & associative fame is a needed part of the Jackson legend. Really spells out the full picture on the family relations.
John Lucas
 
johnlucas said:
One flaw in that SoSoDeaf.
She was invited to Neverland in 2003 & there's a picture to prove it.

In that picture she & her daughter stand above Jermaine & besides Randy to his right. Michael is to Randy's left surrounded by his kids. Michael stands above a sitting Joe & Katherine.

Let me repeat that. A sitting Joe & KATHERINE.

Joh'vonnie is only a few persons away from Katherine herself so what you said just doesn't add up.
Perhaps that was an attempt to smooth over old grudges of the past & perhaps it didn't work out. Or perhaps Katherine herself has buried the hatchet & there's no beef at least on that front.

None of us know the whole facts of the situation but SOMETHING happened that allowed her to be invited to Neverland. It's not like you can just waltz in the place & crash the party.

That picture is very telling to me. And I AGREE with Joh'vonnie that it wasn't right leaving her out of the obituary. She IS Michael's & the other siblings' sister whether they like it or not.

I hope the Jacksons settle things with her one day if they haven't already. How she came into the world wasn't right but there's no need to punish her about it. Blame it on Joe & Cheryl Terrell. Hell, even the Jackson siblings have smoothed over their own love child situations.

Joh'vonnie's life is very interesting to me & life dealing with her estrangement & associative fame is a needed part of the Jackson legend. Really spells out the full picture on the family relations.
John Lucas
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I respectfully disagree. Get real, she is not part of any Jackson's legend.
Unless, you walked in the jacksons' shoes, you have no right telling them how to feel about that girl. Yes she is blood related to Joseph, but they absolutely have no obligation to her. And she has no right forcing herself into their lives.

And going on tabloid shows to smear the family further will not help. It make you a leech just like the rest of them.

After 35 years, she needs to move the hell on and quit wining about not being included in Michael's obituary. Why would she be? She is a stranger to MJ, and I am sure some fans are more deserving to be in that obituary than her. Blood is not the end all be all when it comes to family. And folks need to understand that.

I have been in the Jacksons' shoes and find no fault to how they decide to live their lives without their father's other child. Knowing the strained relationship they have with their dad.
Yes, she maybe their sister in name...but in their heart, she ain't no sibling. You cannot force a connection that does exist.
 
johnlucas said:
One flaw in that SoSoDeaf.
She was invited to Neverland in 2003 & there's a picture to prove it.

In that picture she & her daughter stand above Jermaine & besides Randy to his right. Michael is to Randy's left surrounded by his kids. Michael stands above a sitting Joe & Katherine.

Let me repeat that. A sitting Joe & KATHERINE.

Joh'vonnie is only a few persons away from Katherine herself so what you said just doesn't add up.
Perhaps that was an attempt to smooth over old grudges of the past & perhaps it didn't work out. Or perhaps Katherine herself has buried the hatchet & there's no beef at least on that front.

None of us know the whole facts of the situation but SOMETHING happened that allowed her to be invited to Neverland. It's not like you can just waltz in the place & crash the party.

That picture is very telling to me. And I AGREE with Joh'vonnie that it wasn't right leaving her out of the obituary. She IS Michael's & the other siblings' sister whether they like it or not.

I hope the Jacksons settle things with her one day if they haven't already. How she came into the world wasn't right but there's no need to punish her about it. Blame it on Joe & Cheryl Terrell. Hell, even the Jackson siblings have smoothed over their own love child situations.

Joh'vonnie's life is very interesting to me & life dealing with her estrangement & associative fame is a needed part of the Jackson legend. Really spells out the full picture on the family relations.
John Lucas
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Well just because she was there doesn't mean MJ invited her or even wanted her there, The fact that MJ didn't even talk to her when she was there is proof of that.
I don't want to get into judging either side on how they dealt with the situation. People aren't perfect and do the best they can.
My issue is her timing.
Why talk now? Is it because MJ is a major hot topic right now?
The Neverland visit was in 03, shes 35 yo, and the situation has been the same all these years.
To me, Its just one more person cashing in and using MJ and that's sad.
 
Like I've posted before, none of us know what the REAL relationship JoVonnie has with her half-brothers and sisters. And because the other Jackson kids are famous doesn't mean that ONLY they can speak out and not JoVonnie. Regardless of what she has or had to say, she has every right to speak out about it. And you can't fault her if Joe Jackson allowed her to call him "DADDY" and didn't let the other kids call him that. That's something the Jackson kids should have addressed with Joseph a long time ago. It looks to me that whatever affair Joseph had, the Jackson kids for gave him. They allowed Joseph to stay in their lives so maybe they have accepted JoVonnie...
 
They could've accepted the affair and the child that came out of that affair, but it still doesn't mean they all have to befriend her.. It's her right to speak out about the situation, but at the same time she must know that by her going to the press is not going to make them talk to her. It seems that she really only wanted a relationship with MJ due to the fact that he is the most popular. I guess it's just one of those situations where either time will heal all wounds or things will continue to be the same. If she doesn't like what LaToya said then she should confront her face to face, not through the press since she said she was taking the "high road". LaToya took a stab at her through her book and she shld just go holla at 'Toya at her house or some place.. Um Janet is a true Taurus, so um she may be a lil harder to connect with, cuz those bulls are stubborn...lol
 
johnlucas said:
One flaw in that SoSoDeaf.
She was invited to Neverland in 2003 & there's a picture to prove it.

In that picture she & her daughter stand above Jermaine & besides Randy to his right. Michael is to Randy's left surrounded by his kids. Michael stands above a sitting Joe & Katherine.

Let me repeat that. A sitting Joe & KATHERINE.

Joh'vonnie is only a few persons away from Katherine herself so what you said just doesn't add up.
Perhaps that was an attempt to smooth over old grudges of the past & perhaps it didn't work out. Or perhaps Katherine herself has buried the hatchet & there's no beef at least on that front.

None of us know the whole facts of the situation but SOMETHING happened that allowed her to be invited to Neverland. It's not like you can just waltz in the place & crash the party.

That picture is very telling to me. And I AGREE with Joh'vonnie that it wasn't right leaving her out of the obituary. She IS Michael's & the other siblings' sister whether they like it or not.

I hope the Jacksons settle things with her one day if they haven't already. How she came into the world wasn't right but there's no need to punish her about it. Blame it on Joe & Cheryl Terrell. Hell, even the Jackson siblings have smoothed over their own love child situations.

Joh'vonnie's life is very interesting to me & life dealing with her estrangement & associative fame is a needed part of the Jackson legend. Really spells out the full picture on the family relations.
John Lucas
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ahhhh no flaw my friend...it was joseph who invited her and regardless of how CLOSE in proximity she appears to her half-siblings (by way of distance, not relation.)she didn't speak to them. in fact, she didn't speak to mj, her daughter did. she never spoke w/ him.

a picture is worth a thousand words and this is their attempt at a happy family reunion. i see joe's fam from phoenix as well...he's still close w/ them and has family reunions w/ them that randy and toya go to. but not the rest of the family. jo'vonnie also goes to those reunions.

the family is fractured much more than it seems
 
I'm sorry Joh Vonnie had no business being included in the obiturary. So what she is joseph's daughter, and their half sibling. She is NOT family. Wasn't Katherine going through enough . She had to be reminded about that affair too. And also she said Mike ignored her, didn't speak to her. Then why would she be included. Thats not her family. Her family is her mothers people and Joseph's family. Not Joseph and Katherine's family. Sorry thats how I look at it. I'm sorry with who gets offended by this by this situation is very common in the black community and I know quit a few people who are involved in sitauations like this. And it is what it is . No one makes a big deal, like Joh Vonnie. And unless you are directly involved you cant pass judgement. Its much easier passing judgement when you're on the outside.
 
dearmichael1 said:
I'm sorry Joh Vonnie had no business being included in the obiturary. So what she is joseph's daughter, and their half sibling. She is NOT family. Wasn't Katherine going through enough . She had to be reminded about that affair too. And also she said Mike ignored her, didn't speak to her. Then why would she be included. Thats not her family. Her family is her mothers people and Joseph's family. Not Joseph and Katherine's family. Sorry thats how I look at it. I'm sorry with who gets offended by this by this situation is very common in the black community and I know quit a few people who are involved in sitauations like this. And it is what it is . No one makes a big deal, like Joh Vonnie. And unless you are directly involved you cant pass judgement. Its much easier passing judgement when you're on the outside.
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black community...? families are like this no matter the race. my moms side is Mexican and we have same exact deal, my mothers grandfather had two seperate families with his endless affairs, and the two sides hardly ever converse, and like talking smack on each other. and i have my own issues with people in my family, i can see where is Michael is coming from, you really dont know until you are in this situation. nothing is perfect like the cosby show or the brady bunch in many households thats for sure. not to blame johvonnie for coming into the world, but if she has siblings who wont reach out, not much you can do. the press wont help matters.
 
snowhite said:
she's as bad as Joe

speaking of half-siblings, I have a half-brother who virtually denies my existence, and it hurts me so bad. he's 10 years my senior and we were children from 2 different marriages we were not the product of affairs, we met after our father died I was just a kid and after that he didn't want to see me anymore
I don't understand when other people say they don't want anything to do with their half-siblings...of course with Michael I understand his story and Jo'vonnie is a hypocrite, but I'm talking in general, reading people's opinions on their half-siblings makes me think about my own situation
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Your situation of being of being a half sibling is different to that of being born from an affair that ruined a marriage, so I sympathies the hurt you feel. But I can understand how some of the Jackson's feel about Jo Vonnie from my own experience.

I find like my own half siblings Jo Vonnie expects an instant closeness and feels things should revolve around her, with no understanding of how Joesph affair with her mother hurt Katherine and her 9 children. I personally don't know how such a relationship between Jo Vonnie and Katherine's children could work. In a position like this you realise there is more to being a family than blood or having the same parent when you were brought up in entirely different environments by different mothers.

I have nothing but hatred for my half brothers mother. I don't hate my half brothers, but if I had a relationship with them it would be hard for me not to comment about there mother who caused a lot of trouble in my childhood and brought violence in to my life by smashing up my house etc. I keep my distance because I would have to get my revenge on her. And my dad has never been sympathic to my situation, and I found out from a neighbour about my first half brother, he wasn't man enough to tell me even at the age of 7yrs old.

gerryevans said:
The Jackson children's relationship with Joe is hugely conflicted. They love/hate him. I don't think it's realistic to expect them to embrace Johvonnie when they're so conflicted about Joe himself. She is a constant reminder of a host of emotions to all of them.

No, JohVonnie did not ask to be brought into this world, and it's a terrible situation, but the Jacksons see JohVonnie as Joe's child, not their sister, no matter that they share the same blood.

They have a biological connection, but in their minds, not a familial one. The opposite would be an adopted child. People love adopted children wholly without any biological tie. My point being biology doesn't dictate emotion.
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I agree with your opinion very much.
 
Soso Deaf said:
ahhhh no flaw my friend...it was joseph who invited her and regardless of how CLOSE in proximity she appears to her half-siblings (by way of distance, not relation.)she didn't speak to them. in fact, she didn't speak to mj, her daughter did. she never spoke w/ him.

a picture is worth a thousand words and this is their attempt at a happy family reunion. i see joe's fam from phoenix as well...he's still close w/ them and has family reunions w/ them that randy and toya go to. but not the rest of the family. jo'vonnie also goes to those reunions.

the family is fractured much more than it seems
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wow.... damn this is way to much for me
 
please don't make this black or white. she's entitled tobe hurt cuz this shit has to hurt. it sucks and it makes it even worse to know that fans are closer to her siblings than she it. it's not her fault


however, she don't need to air her dirty laundry in the press....unless jack gordon rose again and is manipulating her too
 
Marilyn Monroe said:
black community...? families are like this no matter the race. my moms side is Mexican and we have same exact deal, my mothers grandfather had two seperate families with his endless affairs, and the two sides hardly ever converse, and like talking smack on each other. and i have my own issues with people in my family, i can see where is Michael is coming from, you really dont know until you are in this situation. nothing is perfect like the cosby show or the brady bunch in many households thats for sure. not to blame johvonnie for coming into the world, but if she has siblings who wont reach out, not much you can do. the press wont help matters.
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I"m Black so what do you want me to base it on. Thats what ive seen my whole life. We've always seen other races with the "perfect" little families and shit like that. And its seems that only majority of Boards and blogs that sees it and agrees with the Jacksons are black blogs and boards. I'm sorry but black men, yes I said it, majority of them anyways are either absent fathers or have "other families out there. On the majority of black boards everyone is disgusted with Joh Vonnie.

And I'm not making it about race. I know its a sore subject for many but thats life. I'm just relaying it from my point of view. Its just that MAINSTREAM seems to think the Jacksons are immature for not acknowleging her.
 
Linda74 said:
In a way I understand her. She didn´t choose to be born into that situation, and until now she has never given an interview that I know of. If that were you and you were Michael and the Jacksons half sister and you were also a fan.But they had issues with you and didn´t want to have anything to do with you even tough you never done anything to then yourself, how would you deal with that? I understand how the Jacksons felt but I also kind of understand her. I will not judge her unless she says something really bad.
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Poor Jo'Vonnie Jackson. You know what does she expect. It is not any of Michael and any of his siblings responsibilty to accept her. Why. She had two loving parents Joseph and her mom. Michael and his brothers and sisters had a loving mother that did not necessarily stop Joseph from beating the sh** out of them and then they had Joseph. Who demanded they not call him dad called his child ugly and beat the living sh*** out of them. They hated him and anything that was connected to him. All MJ wanted was this man's love. He gave it to her, but he could not find it in his heart to give it to him. You know what he told MJ and his brothers. IF you were to ever stop singing, I will drop you like a hot potato. From MJ's mouth to your ears. Also, it is more abuse in that family that happened than these little tidbits that Michael keeps giving about his abuse. Of course, he did not tell it all because he loves his mother too much. I'm not judging her, but she is judging them very unfairly.
 
ensleyave said:
Poor Jo'Vonnie Jackson. You know what does she expect. It is not any of Michael and any of his siblings responsibilty to accept her. Why. She had two loving parents Joseph and her mom. Michael and his brothers and sisters had a loving mother that did not necessarily stop Joseph from beating the sh** out of them and then they had Joseph. Who demanded they not call him dad called his child ugly and beat the living sh*** out of them. They hated him and anything that was connected to him. All MJ wanted was this man's love. He gave it to her, but he could not find it in his heart to give it to him. You know what he told MJ and his brothers. IF you were to ever stop singing, I will drop you like a hot potato. From MJ's mouth to your ears. Also, it is more abuse in that family that happened than these little tidbits that Michael keeps giving about his abuse. Of course, he did not tell it all because he loves his mother too much. I'm not judging her, but she is judging them very unfairly.
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Well said !
 
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