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The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

wendijane said:
What about EDM DJ Tim Bergling , he died suddenly , and child trafficking and all the dark forces were apparently at play , So many questions surrounded his end / disappearance , So, did he fake it too ?
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I Know nothing about this thanks for sharing and from the fact that you shared it with a question suggests that now when anybody dies this way it’s going to be used as a throw off?

Eh eh eh no fair wendyjane *finger wag* hahahaha
 
wendijane said:
What exactly ? WW3?

Then when?

:(

i'm listening dude.

is this from years of research , feeling, or experience? Sounds like you know your stuff , So passionate about it.
Go on , i'm listening.
Thing is , IF he is faking or hiding whatever, why does he need u to uncover him ? Leave him be. You are doing my head in with your posts.
It's been years and years . i'm conflicted.
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When the time is right. I do not have God's schedule unfortunately. The only 'feeling' I have is that it can't be that much longer. I HOPE for him (and all of us btw) that the Revelation is near. But we don't have control over it, neither does he.

I have researched for a very long time. It is not my purpose to 'uncover' him. Quite the contrary, I worry for him and I wish him safe and well until it is done and I hate so called hoax believers who are trying to smoke his ass out like miss Pearlie Miller tries to do. She believes it's all fun and games, or she is paid to make gullible and desperate fans believe that.

It is not my intention to 'do your head in'. I am merely trying to show to those who are willing to see that Michael is much more than 'The King of Pop". That he has a mission on this earth and that he is risking a LOT for us all right now. He has said it himself so many times, yet for some reason people don't believe his own words.

I am not asking everyone to understand it all or to believe in a death hoax. All I am asking if you have even the slightest feeling I might be even remotely right, that you pray for him and those who are with him in this.

We're takin' over
We have the truth
This is the mission
To see it through

Don't point your finger
Not dangerous
This is our planet
You're one of us

We're sendin' out
A major love
And this is our
Message to you (message to you)
The planets are linin' up
We're bringin' brighter days
They're all in line
Waitin' for you
Can't you see?
You're just another part of me

A revelation
Fulfill the truth
The final message
We'll bring to you
There is no danger
Fulfill the truth
So come together
We need you

We're sendin' out
A major love
And this is our
Message to you (message to you)
The planets are linin' up
We're bringin' brighter days
They're all in line
Waitin' for you
So know the truth
You're just another part of me
 
wendijane said:
hi @SoS i just think m would have shown face by now if he had faked
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Oh. Sorry. Haaay wendyjane *waves* how rude of me!
I tend toward the opposite because him leaving here however he did it is not contingent on his return.

I understand. You want him here.

I get it
 
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Hamburglar said:
I think he is MUCH tougher than you think! But I am sure he can use our prayers.
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I’d like to think so. I trust his creative mind power, if he’s going through something like that. And his faith.
 
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Hamburglar said:
so called hoax believers who are trying to smoke his ass out like miss Pearlie Miller tries to do. She believes it's all fun and games, or she is paid
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I too thought she may be paid to make gullible fans believe this is a hoax/joke to be giddy about…but who else would benefit from her doing so ? I can only think of one person..

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I find her entertaining and informative on gp and will keep my complaints bc it doesn’t matter.
 
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SoS said:
It seems that if it were that simple this thread wouldn’t be here and neither would you, y’ think?
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I was stating a fact amongst the delusion. He's dead. Has been for 14 years. It's madness to keep this conspiracy going.
 
Thatkliqkid said:
I don't. I posted in a newly updated thread
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O ok gotcha. You posted without analyzing any data within the thread topic.

It’s fine I’ve noticed people do that a lot with this thread.

It should be renamed “The Knee Jerk Response” thread. lol
 
SoS said:
O ok gotcha. You posted without analyzing any data within the thread topic.

It’s fine I’ve noticed people do that a lot with this thread.

It should be renamed “The Knee Jerk Response” thread. lol
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:ROFLMAO:(y)
 
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🙄 you don't have any data. You have at best coincidence and wishful thinking. The man is dead let him rest in peace.
 
SoS said:
I Know nothing about this thanks for sharing and from the fact that you shared it with a question suggests that now when anybody dies this way it’s going to be used as a throw off?

Eh eh eh no fair wendyjane *finger wag* hahahaha
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To be honest @SoS Tim's ...death, well it did seem very orchestrated to me, I'm still not sure about it.

I think it is about levels too .. which , Tim actually , there is a track he made called Levels - not sure if that has anything to do with it . Just throw it in there ...
i did some research a couple years back regarding Seattle, because in 'grunge' they died alot ..that was that whole theme, i hated it- that music was bult on one death, and i'm still not too sure what i found , and i won't type it out because you will think i am nuts , :( You'll think i'm nuts , and i stupidly went poking about :( i dont want to type it out because it really screwed me up , and i just want to forget about it , but i am maybe with that 50 -80 per cent [hopeful] on the fence that with experience of the Seattle kid , just their character dies,after an agenda, or a cultural change/society values has been set in place. But grunge , only lasted three years....:mad: so i am not really sure what the point of that was , IF that theory of mine is true of course, It kind of all sounds a bit daft and self absorbed.

But with m i just don't know how to start or where.
SoS said:
Oh. Sorry. Haaay wendyjane *waves* how rude of me!
I tend toward the opposite because him leaving here however he did it is not contingent on his return.

I understand. You want him here.

I get it
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Yeah we all do, just want him to be well and safe , If he is alive then all the best mate and i am so glad you made it out. but if he was working for ...what did you guys say , DEA? ..:unsure:. That's such a dark take on this thing. is it ?

Regardless, i hope he is well in heaven or earth. @SoS @Hamburglar


:cautious::LOL:You two are right buggers!, you've got my ears alert now. again!
I am up to listen. I won't make too much noise in this thread. I promise. lol
 
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wendijane said:
To be honest @SoS Tim's ...death, well it did seem very orchestrated to me, I'm still not sure about it.

I think it is about levels too .. which , Tim actually , there is a track he made called Levels - not sure if that has anything to do with it . Just throw it in there ...
i did some research a couple years back regarding Seattle, because in 'grunge' they died alot ..that was that whole theme, i hated it- that music was bult on one death, and i'm still not too sure what i found , and i won't type it out because you will think i am nuts , :( You'll think i'm nuts , and i stupidly went poking about :( i dont want to type it out because it really screwed me up , and i just want to forget about it , but i am maybe with that 50 -80 per cent [hopeful] on the fence that with experience of the Seattle kid , just their character dies,after an agenda, or a cultural change/society values has been set in place. But grunge , only lasted three years....:mad: so i am not really sure what the point of that was , IF that theory of mine is true of course, It kind of all sounds a bit daft and self absorbed.

But with m i just don't know how to start or where.

Yeah we all do, just want him to be well and safe , If he is alive then all the best mate and i am so glad you made it out. but if he was working for ...what did you guys say , DEA? ..:unsure:. That's such a dark take on this thing. is it ?

Regardless, i hope he is well in heaven or earth. @SoS @Hamburglar


:cautious::LOL:You two are right buggers!, you've got my ears alert now. again!
I am up to listen. I won't make too much noise in this thread. I promise. lol
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Don't ever think you will sound nuts. The problems we are facing in the world right now are because there is no discourse anymore for fear of ridicule or attacks. When something doesn't sit right people should be able to have a fair discussion about it without being attacked, called all names in the book or be ridiculed. In Tim's case I am not sure, I have never looked into his death. I do know Tim was very vocal about the human trafficking, mainly in his video for "For a better day". I always had the feeling he was 'disappeared' because of that. But who knows what happened, these are interesting times.

As for Michael there is loads of evidence that I KNOW most people in the regular fan community are not aware of. I know because once in a while I have conversations with them to see why they oppose it so much sometimes and usually all they have seen is some click bait BS videos or Pearl's nonsense. As for who he is working with, I can't tell you. I mentioned that Elvis worked with the DEA, that is a known fact. I would assume Michael works with the authorities, but I don't know which. That would be too much speculation on my part.
 
Hamburglar said:
How do you know what we have? Have you ever asked? Or are you just ASSuming?
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🤣🤣🤣🤣 trying to insinuate I'm the ass when you're the one who believes the man who died 14 years ago is out there somewhere living an undercover life and just left his kids.
 
But it is so good to think though that he could be out there because when he did his TII speech which i ...sadly never attended
Something was so...I felt he wasn't going to do it. that's why i never bought those first night tickets, because frankly the whole thing scared me ...i felt uncomfortable, alot of risk and alot of vulnerability .I was going to go late aug , if any ...the latest i could , just 'incase'.
then , if i really thought about it , I doubt i would have ever have gone actually , in my defence... there was alot of terrorist stuff still going on,
and i felt all those countries in one room , BIG target ...it is just how i felt and saw at the time . The world was getting mean. I cried when he announced the tour.
Not good tears. I was sad because it sounded so bloody final. I hated the title . it was so unlike michael - I always felt TII was never going to happen. When i saw pictures of Dermot O Leary /heard his voice. well, I got physically sick if i did, and even now, a crowd's cheer is still somewhat triggering.
That day. That speech.

I sound so paranoid.
 
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I never thought those shows were going to happen, I also felt something was off, in all honesty he was not in good enough health in body or mind in my opinion. It would have been great to see him do some intimate farewell shows
 
I believe that if Michael is alive, good for him, let's not over expose what is going on in his current life cause he clearly stepped away from the spotlight for a reason, but if he is dead I hope he is having a great time in heaven!
 
I do find the info here to be interested, Pearl Jr isn't really the most greatest person to turn to when it comes to Hoax theories but she's sorta onto something here (Warning, this has a picture of Michael's corpse in here, no blood but still disturbing)
 
This is a crazy rabbit hole, who is Soule Shaun? Why was Michael's face distorted when Karen Faye and Michael Bush was dressing up the corpse? This is all very disturbing and too much for me..... I definitely believe he was either murdered or alive. As disrespectful as that sounds this is my personal belief and I hope y'all can respect that as much as I respect yours. I mean this death is mysterious and odd you really can't blame people for theorizing about this. According to Jermaine the NYPD wiped security footage of people entering and leaving Michael's home during Michael's final days, this is very freaky...
 
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Thatkliqkid said:
🤣🤣🤣🤣 trying to insinuate I'm the ass when you're the one who believes the man who died 14 years ago is out there somewhere living an undercover life and just left his kids.
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When you use the official story as your basis for this discussion you remain stuck with the official story.

This thread was made for those who are interested in exploring what is potentially REALLY going on

beyond the headlines, the official story and the photographs “used” to convince you.

If you can’t see beyond what you see on the tv screen or read in a magazine you’re obviously just convinced. That’s fine but you are in the HOAX THEORY thread so why is that?

To read us the headlines?
 
wendijane said:
But it is so good to think though that he could be out there because when he did his TII speech which i ...sadly never attended
Something was so...I felt he wasn't going to do it. that's why i never bought those first night tickets, because frankly the whole thing scared me ...i felt uncomfortable, alot of risk and alot of vulnerability .I was going to go late aug , if any ...the latest i could , just 'incase'.
then , if i really thought about it , I doubt i would have ever have gone actually , in my defence... there was alot of terrorist stuff still going on,
and i felt all those countries in one room , BIG target ...it is just how i felt and saw at the time . The world was getting mean. I cried when he announced the tour.
Not good tears. I was sad because it sounded so bloody final. I hated the title . it was so unlike michael - I always felt TII was never going to happen. When i saw pictures of Dermot O Leary /heard his voice. well, I got physically sick if i did, and even now, a crowd's cheer is still somewhat triggering.
That day. That speech.

I sound so paranoid.
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It doesn’t sound paranoid at all wendyjane. I believe it’s some kind of cognitive dissonance that keeps everyone from raising questions about the very same things.

Everything seemed ‘off’ to anyone paying more than the usual attention.
 
SoS said:
When you use the official story as your basis for this discussion you remain stuck with the official story.

This thread was made for those who are interested in exploring what is potentially REALLY going on

beyond the headlines, the official story and the photographs “used” to convince you.

If you can’t see beyond what you see on the tv screen or read in a magazine you’re obviously just convinced. That’s fine but you are in the HOAX THEORY thread so why is that?

To read us the headlines?
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Official story? Do you mean the truth? 🤨
What's really going on is, that a man died on 25th June 2009 and a family lost a son, brother, father and uncle.
I reply in this thread because people quote my posts but I'm going to stop because the delusion is sad and insulting to his family.
Stuff like this is why people call Michael Jackson fans nuts.
 
Thatkliqkid said:
Official story? Do you mean the truth? 🤨
What's really going on is, that a man died on 25th June 2009 and a family lost a son, brother, father and uncle.
I reply in this thread because people quote my posts but I'm going to stop because the delusion is sad and insulting to his family.
Stuff like this is why people call Michael Jackson fans nuts.
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Yes that official story.
 
I'm not exactly a beLIEver, but I will admit that there's some undeniable factual information here that kinda makes hoaxers think he's alive:

- A plane took off in LA at 8:30 and it's landing whereabouts is unknown (and it's unknown if Michael was involved with this)
- The Emergency Team found a bald guy in Michael's bed
- In the hospital he was given the name Soule Shaun
- The death certificate has a bunch of misinformation including an error in Michaels middle name
- According to Jermaine, the NYPD wiped out any security footage of people entering and leaving Michael's house during Michael's final days.
- The Coroner's autopsy photos clearly show's Michael with hair and also has other misinformation
- Michael's face was mangled when given to Karen Faye and Michael Bush to dress him up at FOREST LAWN
- According to officials at Forest Lawn, Michael's body was never at Forest Lawn even though there was a private burial ceremony there for Michael apparently.
- Michael's Estate never deposited money from Michael's life insurance but cashed in (you usually do the opposite when someone dies)
- When Conrad was sentenced to prison he was sent elsewhere instead of prison he was supposed to be at but I don't believe it's known where
- LaToya said everything is an illusion, watch The Illusionist, a movie about faking someone's death apparently.

Now I'm not saying we should go and find Michael, because if he is alive, he most likely wouldn't have gone through all this trouble just to be caught. I don't mean to sound disrespectful when saying he could be alive, I know his death situation put the Jackson family, especially his children, into deep shit. I don't believe Michael would have done that to his own kids no matter what, it makes me wonder why he could ever consider doing this.
 
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