Re: The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and other theories
Qbee I see what you mean, but I still don't know. You think we project our thoughts on the dead and it is more about our thought and feelings--who knows. I was not thinking of Michael in that state at all and again no one knows what is in our minds, and if we do not have a gift of interpreting dreams like in the bible, we should be cautious about making assertive comments about them. What could be true for you and your dreams may not be true for others. Some people have more prophetic dreams, some are due to overeating or drinking the night before, some as you say come from what we worry about during the day, but not all dreams are caused by the same effect. For instance, out of the blue one of my sisters had a dream about me and called me early the next morning to be careful about a particular circumstance that I will find myself in during the day. Does she think bad things about me--no. Did she know from before what my day will be--no. She lives in another state. She has always been like that and would dream remedies about how to cure herself or others in the family. She would then call them up and say take such and such. Now with the remedies definitely you can see, like you say, how knowing about someone's sickness caused her to pray about it, and then she gets a solution in a dream.
Now here is an example of how people alive can affect a dead person. When my dad died after the funeral everyone gathered in a room and began talking good things about him. Of course you had the odd ball, and my eldest sister began rehashing all the things he did to her since a child even though at the time she was in her 50's. She went on and on. What happened? Some nights later I dreamed I saw him as a child kneeling in front of a mound next to the church, and he was weeping. When I say weeping, I mean his body was shaking, tears were running down his face and he was moving his torso up and down to the ground. I ran to him and said daddy, daddy what is wrong with you. While weeping he said, "I just want to be left alone, I just want to rest in peace, stop talking about me." When I woke up I called everyone and that sister and told them not to talk bad about him anymore. This made me realize that the dead know what is going on, and I have a feeling it takes a while for them to go where they are supposed to go. My mom had different dreams about my dad and prayed for his soul for years. She did see him sad in one dream, but usually he was at peace. He brings here things too. Once he came as a child and stretched out his hand with something hidden in it and told her to take it. She kept telling him no and he kept insisting. He also knew she was praying for him and finally 13 years after his death he came to her smiling and said Thank you for the prayers. She interpreted it to mean he had passed on from the stage where people go as their sins are cleansed to the stage where sinless & pure people go, because she never saw him again. This is just her interpretation and her belief, because she does not think we die and go to heaven; we have to be cleansed first and it takes time and prayers from the living. This is her religious teaching and it may not be the same for other religions.
Here is an example about where reality has nothing to do with what we dream: Sometime in 09 I dreamed that I was standing somewhere outdoors and a big bus (the type people charter and go to the casino in) came down the street and stopped in front of me. The door opened and out came Michael. He stretched out his hand to the opened door of the bus and out came a load of people in their late teens to early 20s. He made them come and stand next to me, went back in the bus and drove away without saying anything. The same dream repeated 2 more times like in a loop. The bus came, etc. The third time after he dropped off the people for me, he shook my hand and went back in the bus, and that was the end of the whole dream just Michael coming and bringing me some people. Now do I want some people--no. Was I going on a bus ride, working with people that age--no. Did I see some bus story, people story--no. Do I want 3 bus loads of young people--no. Do I have a fetish where I wish Michael would bring me a load of people and think of this all day long--no. In fact a more realistic thought I would have of Michael would be for him to come to my room in the gold pants outfit and then we turn off the light. Now if I dream about that you can definitely say it is because I was thinking about that and my thoughts were projected in my dream. However, I do not have such dreams of Michael. They are always serious situations and seem to have some significance, but I do not know what they mean.
Even the time when he gave me the numbers, I was not thinking "oh I hope Michael gives me a winning number." In that particular dream he called me on the phone and said "I am coming," and gave long detailed instructions about something. He did come though and brought me a Japanese baby, like a newborn. He knocked on the door, I opened it and he hands me this baby. Now what am I suppose to do with a Japanese baby? Was I wishing for a baby--good heavens no. Do I have some Japanese baby friends that I was thinking about or playing with--no. Did I wish I could be pregnant, or did my friends call and say they were pregnant--no.