The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

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This guy is quite trusted in the beLIEver community so I don't know why he would put that at risk by posting something like this if it was made up?
o_O Huh....U sure about that? lol For all the videos I have seen I have never heard of this theIllusion777 person. Nor have seen or read any hoaxers talk about them ever. I had only found out about this person here. He reminds me of that person that use to call themselves something like black or white that use to say things too and then one day disappeared. I never believed them and I certainly don't believe this new fool either.

I'm surprised some of u even followed them. LMAO SMH I don't know how many times I said don't bother with dates. If anyone is only here or interested only for dates of suppose "BAM" then the point as been lost to u long ago.
 
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^^"he's doing wonderful" what the... do you think maybe he was distracted as he was signing the autograph at the same time? Also why would that guy ask how Michael is doing? I'm just thinking if someone asked me how my Gran is doing I would immediately say that she passed away I certainly wouldn't say she was doing wonderful! Yes the whole clip would be good.
 
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^WHAT THE....DID HE JUST SAY?! O_O Jermaine u can't be slipping up like that all the time! :O lol If anyone can find the whole footage that would be awesome.

Is the video for sure from 2011?

I find it hard to believe that a reporter is asking about how Michael is doing 2 years after his passing...
 
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http://youtu.be/JWNDZmyluX8



http://youtu.be/8y9mAsNIIWA



^WHAT THE....DID HE JUST SAY?! O_O Jermaine u can't be slipping up like that all the time! :O lol If anyone can find the whole footage that would be awesome.

The Jermaine video is from 2008. And as for the other video, ugh. Just seeing Pearl Jr's face maskes me sick. What a despicable woman to make a business out of the suggestion that Michael faked his death. Sick and offensive.
 
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^^"he's doing wonderful" what the... do you think maybe he was distracted as he was signing the autograph at the same time? Also why would that guy ask how Michael is doing? I'm just thinking if someone asked me how my Gran is doing I would immediately say that she passed away I certainly wouldn't say she was doing wonderful! Yes the whole clip would be good.

The video is a LIE _ becuase it is from 2008 not 2011
why do so many hoaxers use LIES photoshops and misinformation to support this theory ?


http://youtu.be/8y9mAsNIIWA
^WHAT THE....DID HE JUST SAY?! O_O Jermaine u can't be slipping up like that all the time! :O lol If anyone can find the whole footage that would be awesome.

I found it for you. Here is the original video and whole awesome footage _ Jeramaine discusses the
release of Thriller 25 the upcoming Jackson Dynasty show and the presidential election it was 2008.
The title of the video is Jermaine talks about Michael Jackson when Michael was Alive.
http://tonyvera.com/4-paparazzi/689-jermaine-jackson-talks-about-michael-jackson-when
 
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I just got a PM from a member from Naruto Forums a while ago, he asked me is Michael a "Satanist", I told him not to believe all these BS lies. I'm glad he asked me about it. I mean we know it's important that anybody asks us about Michael right.
 
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I just got a PM from a member from Naruto Forums a while ago, he asked me is Michael a "Satanist", I told him not to believe all these BS lies. I'm glad he asked me about it. I mean we know it's important that anybody asks us about Michael right.

Show them this photoshop. Michael ain't no Satanist and no MK Ultra mind controlled puppet. People buy just about into any $%^& because someone once said so.

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^^^ There Michael is in Brunei, a muslim country to SING (a lot of people don't seem to realize the significance of that invitation!) and what does he do? He's performing so called 'mudras', that are rooted in both Buddhism and Hinduism. And at the end he's daringly adding a (Christian) "Peace, Brunei!".

You have to understand that a lot of people can only pick up things from Michael from their own standpoint. So, if their mind can only pick up supposed Satanism and MK Ultra cr*p- then that is a reflection of THEIR mind, not Michael's. Because Michael spoke a different language.

Makes you wonder who the Satanist is!

I'm actually writing an article on exactly that issue, how Michael is constantly being misaligned into the dark BS- it just takes a lot of time to research all the angles in Buddhism and Hinduism. But it'll be my ultimate pleasure to write something for all these Illuminati and Satanist folks.

Here's a beautiful statue- of a crotch grabbing Shiva. (Hinduism)
ShivaNataraja.jpg

This is a pose that is part of a larger, sacred and divine Dance.

People that accuse Michael of being a Satanist etc. are just projecting their own mind, nothing else. This is not to make light of these existence of these things, or that Michael of all people would know of these things (how could he not know, having both grown up in the industry and being an avid student of all religions and the occult) but that doesn't make him a Satanist.
By the way, most people also immediately misunderstand the word 'occult' as a 4 letter word, which it really is NOT. But it sounds so nice and scary, doesn't it.

People copy some of these "MJ is a Satanist" videos of youtube and then distribute them around the usual conspiracy boards, David Icke etc. And a lot of people buy into that cr*p.
 
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The video is a LIE _ becuase it is from 2008 not 2011
why do so many hoaxers use LIES photoshops and misinformation to support this theory ?

I found it for you. Here is the original video and whole awesome footage _ Jeramaine discusses the
release of Thriller 25 the upcoming Jackson Dynasty show and the presidential election it was 2008.
The title of the video is Jermaine talks about Michael Jackson when Michael was Alive.
http://tonyvera.com/4-paparazzi/689-jermaine-jackson-talks-about-michael-jackson-when

See, AWESOME... :D That's exactly how a lot of conspiracy works, not just the MJ hoax.
Sometimes it's outright lies like this example and other times it kind of glides along on a mix of lies and out of context- and a wrong conclusion. My favorite thing in the world are conspiracy theorists that scream and yell at you because they think that because they have a theory and came to a conclusion- that that must be SO. It's not, lol.

And then you have the weirdest nonsense stuff that suddenly is 'suspicious'. Suddenly something becomes a 'fact' that really isn't a fact. Just because a ton of people love making up, doctoring up and circulating made up death certificates, doesn't mean there isn't an actual one, just because YOU haven't seen it. Or just because TMZ publishes a coroner's report that some find suspicious, doesn't mean there's isn't a full one that is not 'weird'. Michael can say a million times that just because something's in print it's not the Gospel- but that goes in in one ear and out the other.

People buy into it. Another favorite is getting yelled at "well, you haven't done the research and have not seen everything, you cannot possibly form an opinion". Well, I have pretty much have seen most of this stuff. And that is another thing- just because I watched this stuff doesn't mean it's plausible.

It's like a while back when one believer Lady was going on about how weird the burial structures of Forest Lawn are- 2 minutes of googling tell you that obviously there are many different ways a burial structure can be set up and that there is no mystery involved, just different designs.

It's how conspiracy works.

Here's is an AWESOME text on how to write a really gripping conspiracy theory. Enjoy!! I laughed tears.

http://www.philm.demon.co.uk/Miscellaneous/ConspiracyTexts.htm

"Many people seem to believe that anything they see presented in print, as fact, is true. ......This shows up in their writings... One trick that can help with this effect is to slip into foreign languages occasionally, which always looks clever. .... they usually start by trying to discuss the balance of arguments rationally. But the mask of logic always slips eventually....Lots of emphatic adjectives can help here. ... It looks like a scholarly text, it has footnotes like a scholarly text, it's as hard to read as a scholarly text; many people will assume that it is what it looks like, as opposed to utter drivel. ... they think that a few jokes will prove that they aren't crazy. .... If a conspiracy theorist finds that other people agree with him, he is naturally pleased, and will usually quote the source in print. ... Try to avoid actual lies. ... Use "Obviously," "Interesting," and "Subtlety" ... In the overt sense, flatter your subjects. ...Name-Drop People and Places ...Secondly, They Are In Charge. Quite who They are depends on your particular theory ..."

Sorry, for the 2 posts in a row instead of one, but it's next to impossible to say this in one convenient gif or smiley, underscored by the same bloody "Requiem For A Dream" music...
 
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The video is a LIE _ becuase it is from 2008 not 2011
why do so many hoaxers use LIES photoshops and misinformation to support this theory ?




I found it for you. Here is the original video and whole awesome footage _ Jeramaine discusses the
release of Thriller 25 the upcoming Jackson Dynasty show and the presidential election it was 2008.
The title of the video is Jermaine talks about Michael Jackson when Michael was Alive.
http://tonyvera.com/4-paparazzi/689-jermaine-jackson-talks-about-michael-jackson-when

Where u trying to be sarcastic by bolding the word awesome? LMAO! Good for u if were and no surprise either. But, I ask to see it because I wanted to be sure of when it was actually said not because I out right believed the video. So thanks.

It's good to make sure since our dear Jermaine once said on a radio station that MJ on June 25th left to the airport before the family arrived at the hospital. Even if it was a mistake it was a stupid mistake and weird that he could get the words hospital and airport confused when they sound nothing alike.

So excuse me if I wanted this time to make sure if this other video was legit. Or maybe some prefer to not make these type of things public so it can't be corrected and then have many believe it? SMFH
 
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Whatever we think, beLIEvers or not, we're all fans of him... That's the most important.
 
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hahah look what I found;
I'm not a believer, but I saw this on a another forum;
This is quoted from that post
ok so in the video it begins showing an island. well the island could mean michaels in hiding, and didnt someone say they saw michael on the beach in bahamas? and then the juice floats on shore resurrecting a dodo bird. dodo birds are extinct aren't they? and didn't michael die? then then the dodo bird starts singing the lyrics: Im alive and im seeing things mighty clear today im alive,(he moonwalks right here, as he would in billie jean or something) im alive and im doing my thing and singing my song im alive. and didnt the kids call michael a dodo head???

I must admit, those believers have a great imagination..
 
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oh I didn't know this was an old commerical,,, also I don't believe in the Hoax theory, maybe the ones do, saw this earlier.
I don't watch foreign commericals, and this commerical wasn't aired in the Netherlands.
But the point was , that those believers have a great imagination.. ;)
 
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Paris Jackson tweeted this 6 hours ago:

pariisjaxn Paris Jackson
http://t.co/eOcM0KS this is so G.. i luv the part at 1:15.. #swag
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The video is Michael in Super Mario Brother levels. At about 1:10, Michael falls off something and "dies" and at 1:15 (Paris' favourite part), Michael suddenly pops back up, back to life.

Here is the link to the video, as embedding has been disabled: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=833xoDxyb6A
 
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^^ I like it too, it could be she liked because he wasn't defeated and kept going - he did that a lot in his life.
 
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^^ I like it too, it could be she liked because he wasn't defeated and kept going - he did that a lot in his life.

I was thinking she liked it there (1:15) because it was funny the way he came up from falling off the screen and then quickly moonwalks straight up the side of a wall...pretty amazing feat. It was a clever idea of the person who made the video. Chuckle worthy.
 
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^^Ha ha yeah I liked that! The magic of Michael!
 
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Paris Jackson tweeted this 6 hours ago:

pariisjaxn Paris Jackson
http://t.co/eOcM0KS this is so G.. i luv the part at 1:15.. #swag
6 hours ago Favorite Reply

The video is Michael in Super Mario Brother levels. At about 1:10, Michael falls off something and "dies" and at 1:15 (Paris' favourite part), Michael suddenly pops back up, back to life.

Here is the link to the video, as embedding has been disabled: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=833xoDxyb6A

I thought the account was said to be fake because of the Hollywood Tonight scandal.
 
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I thought the account was said to be fake because of the Hollywood Tonight scandal.

I thought it was fake as well but she uploads new photos every now and again and she uploaded the photos of the MJ motorbike before anyone else, TMZ got them from her Twitter account.
 
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I thought it was fake as well but she uploads new photos every now and again and she uploaded the photos of the MJ motorbike before anyone else, TMZ got them from her Twitter account.

It seems we can't predict what the future holds...hmmm :)
 
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And just a curiosity... the validity of the passport of Michael's
is October 18, 2013. > http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_kvYJOjDaK...AAArg/_VzWryMUnKA/s1600-h/currentpassport.jpg

2009... 2013... 4 years.... I found it interesting. :fear:



And......



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Thanks to Twiggy from mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com for reminding us of this picture taken exactly 2 years ago after the Memorial at the Staples Center. At that time, not many knew who the Emergency Medical Technicians were, but we do now. In photo is retired Police Chief Bratton (suddenly and suspiciously retired soon after), "Magic" Johnson, EMT's Blunt & Senoff, Randy Phillips and an unknown guy-Can someone tell me who that is?

Looking at this photo with all smiling faces, one would think they saved the life of Michael Jackson or is it something else?
BTW, coroner Ed Wynter also attended the Memorial in the 3rd row. Interesting for sure! Hmmmm!
http://twitpic.com/5mp7q6


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This picture is bizarre. :unsure:
 
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Remember theillusion777's 7 days of BAM theory? Today was day one apparently:

Hello all! As you know, I recently changed the description of the site to read, “the jaunty birthday smiles.” As most of you realized, it was an anagram which, when unscrambled, read “July Thirteenth is Bamsday.”

That makes today, July 7th, the first day of the “Seven Days of the Bam.” I said that each day would feature news, with the final two days being the big event.

Today’s news doesn’t IMMEDIATLY have to do with MJ, but it has to do with something that is synonymous with his name: News of the World. As we all know, NotW is a tabloid that has ALWAYS posted tabloid articles about MJ, calling him Wacko Jacko (among other things).

The news that broke today was that NotW was shutting down July 10th. This is part of the redemption of his name. The people that bad-mouthed him (made up lies) are getting what they deserve.

I know a lot of you are like, “That’s it? That’s the news?!” Yeah, it is (today’s news that is). It is like the quote from Kenny Ortega at the beginning of THIS IS IT: “And piece by piece by piece by piece, MJ is revealed, until he jumps out. And on Michael’s command, we begin.”

The pieces have actually been falling into place since early 2010, but the “Seven Days” will see the pieces falling increasingly faster.

Finally, I know a lot of you were expecting the news today to be directly about Michael. While that was not the case, do not be discouraged. Do you expect all the BIG stories to be released in the beginning? Or would you expect them to be released nearer and nearer to the end?

-The Illusion
http://theillusion777.wordpress.com/2011/07/07/day-1-rebirth/
 
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Remember theillusion777's 7 days of BAM theory? Today was day one apparently:


http://theillusion777.wordpress.com/2011/07/07/day-1-rebirth/

Do people actually believe this shit? The writer of that blog needs help. It's absolutely disgusting that he is leading people on in that way and taking advantage of their emotions. Links to that kind of material shouldn't be allowed on this site.
 
The Resurrection of Michael Jackson

POSTED IN: POP BY JAMES CHAPMAN ON MAY 7TH, 2011 | 15 COMMENTS

A sensational occurrence that will completely shock the world may well happen very soon. The incredible event will be the absolutely amazing and miraculous resurrection of the king of pop, Michael Jackson.

Michael Jackson was so full of life and energy having just completed the rehearsals for his new tour, only a few weeks before he was proclaimed dead. After the rehearsals Michael Jackson said to his adoring fans that he would see them again in July 2011.

This would imply that Michael Jackson had every intention of being in the world on that date, which would mean that he had faked his death and completely fooled the coroner and other medical officials.



Let us look at some of the finer details surrounding this apparent death of Michael Jackson; for example, Michael Jackson’s name is still not on his grave stone.


Michael Jackson’s name is wrong on the will, on the death certificate, on the autopsy and on other important documents. And why was it that the coroner used Michael Jackson’s driver’s license to identify the body?

Is it possible that Michael Jackson used a body double and that he had already discreetly made a disappearance well before anyone discovered his ‘dead body’?



So, why would Michael Jackson want to make it look like he had died?



Was there a conspiracy to stop him performing again and was someone planning to kill him anyway? Did that someone want to take some kind of revenge? And who would gain most benefit in the event of his death?



Did Michael Jackson fake his death so that he could save his life?

When the guests were leaving Elizabeth Taylor’s funeral several of them said that they thought of Michael Jackson and his voice was in their ears.


Could this be really possible? Has Michael Jackson produced one of his greatest performances and totally hoaxed the entire world. For millions of his fans that would not come as a surprise.

They already knew that everything that Michael Jackson does is special, completely original, absolutely sensational and always unexpected. And the first thing they would hear him say is ‘you are not alone, I am here with you’.



The king of pop may well very soon be back and enthralling his fans all around the world with his very special charismatic talents. Then all of us will know we have an angel amongst us called ‘Michael’
http://musicouch.com/genres/pop/the-resurrection-of-michael-jackson/

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KingMikeJ;3430387 said:
Remember theillusion777's 7 days of BAM theory? Today was day one apparently:


http://theillusion777.wordpress.com/2011/07/07/day-1-rebirth/


OMG! theillusion777 still exist? I do not believe that after the confusion of chat some still believe it. :eek: :doh:
 
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Links to that kind of material shouldn't be allowed on this site.

Why shouldn't they? Because it's different from your opinion?
 
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Why shouldn't they? Because it's different from your opinion?

No because it's offensive and is no different from the lies the mainstream media write about Michael.
 
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