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The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

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Angela_MJJ said:
What will it take for MJ to come back? Is there anything the fans can do or is this something beyond our control?
asked by lilwendymjhd
It's way beyond our control.
AskTeddyRiley answered lilwendymjhd, 8 hours ago

In your opinion why MJ fake his death? Thanx
asked by sognakalifornia
To get away from monsters, haters, & some people that didn't want him around.
AskTeddyRiley answered sognakalifornia, 8 hours ago

Are u really a BeLIEver? Do u really think MJ would fake his death and hurt his children that way?

It's not hurting his kids...in fact they're gonna be find. I will not answer anything else about the kids pls don't ask. Done
AskTeddyRiley answered 8 hours ago
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I've been keeping up with Teddy and his madness for a couple of weeks now. I really don't know what to think about it all. I don't think he is involved with the hoax, if there is one at all. That would be totally insane for him to put Michael's safety in jeopardy, assuming he's in hiding somewhere. He's either deliberately trying to pull the wool over the eyes of beLIEvers, or he's suffering some type of mental breakdown. I'm not saying that beLIEvers are crazy, of course. I'm still on the fence myself, but through this whole ordeal he's demonstrated really bizarre behavior. I'm not a psychiatrist though so...

I guess time will truly tell. This is all so CRAZY. I just hope Michael is at peace and happy--where ever he is.
 
I don't think he is in on the hoax either.

Just saw this btw http://twitpic.com/3fe1sc looks like he took the next step!
And his blog page is online now http://teddyrileyblog.wordpress.com/

Some questions on his blog:

Anne
will he come back?
December 12, 2010

Teddy Riley's Blog
YES
december 12, 2010

Don't know to whom he replied this one though:
Teddy Riley's Blog
YES I DO…AND I HAVE ALL REASON TO BELIEVE FROM THE FACTS. HE’S GREAT AND WELL.
december 12, 2010 at 7:16 am

Martha
Hi Teddy, here are some questions:
What was your impression of Oprah?
What is the best story you are willing to tell us from your times with MJ?
Did MJ want his new music to have an updated sound? (I ask because so many fans seem to have a problem with this)
Did you and MJ talk about Sony in recent years? If so, how did he feel about Sony?
Thanks and love.
december 12, 2010

Teddy Riley's Blog
OPRAH IS COOL, I’M SURE MICHAEL IS SMILING DOWN AT HER TOO. SHE REVEAL HIS SURROGATE FAMILY WHO HE LOVED DEARLY.
THE STORIES WILL BE IN Y BOOK.
AS FAR AS MJ WANTING HIS MUSIC UPDATED…I DID WHAT I WOULD DO AS THE NEXT LEVEL OF DANGEROUS.
december 12, 2010
 
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I"ve watched a CSI episode last night about how Horatio faked his death in order to catch a bad guy.
At one moment he said " I"ll take it from here ".
I remember reading that Michael said to Kenny the night before 25.6 :
" Thank you for taking me this far. I can take it from here."
I am not saying that episode had anything to do with Michael....but it can be done.
It CAN.
 
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The Special One said:
Smiling down?
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Yeah, did he slip up? I mean, all this time saying he is alive and now he is saying MJ is smiling down.. you usuyally use that term when someone is dead..

or did I get it all wrong?
 
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Vici said:
Yeah, did he slip up? I mean, all this time saying he is alive and now he is saying MJ is smiling down.. you usuyally use that term when someone is dead..

or did I get it all wrong?
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I asked myself the same thing, i'm still wondering.
 
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^^ sorry...off topic....pac your siggy is hilarious! :lmao: I love Fresh Prince!
 
-My dear friend…I can image how great is the “stress” on you for people asking about Michael!For that I only like to tell you that I L.O.V.E. you so much “from the bottom of my heart”!
I’m a Doctor..and I don’t believe that another Doctor “killed” Michael in a so stupid way! I think Doctor Murray is a good doctor..like I am!!I saw and see a lot of clues about his being alive!! But..I only pray that’s true! Enjoy your future Christmas time!! L.O.V.E. Doctor Rosa!
 December 12, 2010 at 1:46 pm

- Teddy Riley's Blog
NOW….THINK ABOUT IT. WHY IS HE NOT GETTING ALOT OF TIME? I GOT MORE QUESTIONS TO CLUES. THINK ABOUT THAT ONE.
 December 12, 2010 at 8:22 pm
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This answer from Teddy is both interesting and worrying at the same time! Interesting because it goes with the hoax with all that's been said and I don't need to repeat it cause by this time everyone should know what's been said!? lol

But, if Teddy is some how B.Sing? It's a dangerous thing to say! We don't want Murray being portrayed as innocent especially by MJs own friends! <_< So Teddy better know what he is saying!? Let's hope he isn't just guessing here? He says he is a knower and can't say to much, right? So hopefully that's the truth!? I'm Praying it is! :)
 
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bluetopez said:
Analyzes the Hold My Hand video! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5Ci2WyhtU
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Thanks for the video! :)





bluetopez said:
This answer from Teddy is both interesting and worrying at the same time! Interesting because it goes with the hoax with all that's been said and I don't need to repeat it cause by this time everyone should know what's been said!? lol

But, if Teddy is some how B.Sing? It's a dangerous thing to say! We don't want Murray being portrayed as innocent especially by MJs own friends!
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I cant see how someone speculating that Michael is alive makes any difference to the court of Law. Especially when that person says they havent seen him.

All they will hear and look at is the facts. That they have a dead body and suspicious death and the death certificate and witnesses of the death say it is Michael.

Wouldnt that be the case? Surely I cant see how they will start questioning was that body MJ.?
 
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pac said:
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thank you, it's uplifting. one would really have to wonder why he's doing this. if he truly believes, the expected reaction is for him to shut up as it could endanger Michael and his plans. as it is, he's being very insensitive and thoughtless for one who is supposed to be a very close friend of Michael's.

so maybe it's deliberate, part of the plan? very daring, provocative and baiting...can't wait to see what happens next.
 
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Ashtanga said:
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Hmmm... not sure, very good autograph though. Perhaps he did write this but before June 25th and signed 2010 like when he used to sign 1998 all the time. I don't know!
 
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bluetopez said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR_Rp2TKQBE
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I just feel like I have relived the last 18 months all over again :( My heart was breaking again and again all through that. Still, I'm glad I watched it, reminded me of a few things. I had forgotten about that interview with Rebbie, she was definitely holding back on something. I also did not realise there were 600 + FBI files on MJ from people threatening his life. I have always found the 'threat to his life' as the most plausible reason as to why Michael would ever fake his own death. There are so many similarities between Michael and Elvis, almost identical, Elvis also had a simliar number of FBI files of threats to his life...interesting. Thanks.
 
From iamdiddy's twitter:

iamdiddy He returns in 10 days.......... about 18 hours ago via ÜberTwitter

iamdiddy 10 days until He returns... better get some dancing lessons... lol about 13 hours ago via CoTweet

iamdiddy 10 more days...... and then he's takin the motherfuckin gloves off.... about 9 hours ago via CoTweet

iamdiddy The countdown until His return... 10 more days... BE READY.

9 days..... until He's back....... 20 minutes ago via web

I wonder who he's talking about. And if this account is real. And if he isn't just doing this for promotional purposes.

Edit - just noticed it's a verified account.
 
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I don't see how people follow Diddy. He posts like a maniac.

haha Does sound like he's talking about Michael though. "Get your gloves," "take dancing lessons". :p haha BUT my mind went to Jesus because he keeps capitalizing the 'H' in he. Either way, I don't think Diddy would be privileged to know either of those returns.

He's probably self-promoting... again.
 
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Suzie B said:
Hmmm... not sure, very good autograph though. Perhaps he did write this but before June 25th and signed 2010 like when he used to sign 1998 all the time. I don't know!
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It's hard to tell via video. It does look like his handwriting, but it could just be very good. Like you say, it could just be him signing a future date like he used to do. :/
 
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Diddy? o_O lol is he friends with Akon or Teddy? Weird! Wonder who he speaks of? MJ wears one glove though! lol
 
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Pretty_Young_Thriller said:
I don't see how people follow Diddy. He posts like a maniac.

haha Does sound like he's talking about Michael though. "Get your gloves," "take dancing lessons". :p haha BUT my mind went to Jesus because he keeps capitalizing the 'H' in he. Either way, I don't think Diddy would be privileged to know either of those returns.

He's probably self-promoting... again.
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I don't follow Diddy. But I do read DI's tweets. :cheeky:

Yeah, probably just Promo... maybe he saw how much attention Teddy Riley was getting from this.
 
Much has been said about the similarities between Michael Jackson and Elvis Presley, both in life and in apparent death, and more recently, in their hoax deaths as well. But not much has been said about what the similarities indicate nor what they mean. This sentiment was posed to the group on MJHDI today as the question:

i don&#8217;t get the connection between Michael and Elvis, except he married Lisa.
If Elvis faked his death, by the way how old is he not meaning to be rude, how does that imply Michael&#8217;s hoax too?

It&#8217;s a good question. So what if Elvis did fake it. What does this have to do with Michael Jackson&#8217;s hoax death? The following is my response cut and pasted from the forum:

Hi!

Bear with me because it gets complicated and it&#8217;s best if I talk it out.

Elvis having faked his death (the notion of) has become a curiosity of sorts in American culture. It&#8217;s cliche if you will, like a joke. It&#8217;s a light-hearted and funny fantasy, though the vast majority thinks it&#8217;s just that, a joke or fantasy, the concept of Elvis still being alive is something that everyone can laugh about. It&#8217;s a subject guaranteed to evoke a snicker or chuckle in a fun way. Haha Elvis is alive and rides the bus to bingo every Sunday&#8230;

In the late 70&#8242;s there were a rash of Elvis &#8220;sightings&#8221; just like that, Elvis doing routine, mundane, every day people things and it became material for urban legends. Example: I saw Elvis at the Quick Pik buying eggs and milk. I saw Elvis driving an El Camino with steer horns on the grill. I saw Elvis hanging out at the bowling alley on fish fry night.

And then we have the Elvis impersonators.

Turned into a joke of course. As conspiracy theories go, it&#8217;s unique in a way as the Elvis hoax death is one conspiracy everyone can smile about. How fun if it was true but how utterly ridiculous an idea&#8230;

So along comes MJ&#8217;s death. And from day one multiple sources, media, family, friends, have all been drawing parallels between MJ&#8217;s death and Elvis&#8217;s death, and this is an example of a rabbit hole. A rabbit hole is a lead that draws players into an Interactive Web Based Alternate Reality Game. Elvis and MJ. Elvis and MJ. MJ died just like Elvis died. It&#8217;s just like Elvis. Just like Elvis&#8230;.

So then you take a closer look. How much is it just like Elvis? Well we have this and this and this&#8230;. and this&#8230;and this&#8230; and omg this this this this this&#8230; you get the idea.

Many of these things are things that MJ chose to do/wear/say/arrange and there are so many of them it leads one to wonder, why the F is MJ emulating Elvis so much?

And if MJ spends much of his life emulating Elvis, how crazy is it that his death seemed SO similar to Elvis&#8217;s&#8230; the circumstances, the timing, the players involved&#8230;

So then as we investigate we find it is clear that MJ purposely emulated Elvis in multiple facets of his life, his art, his music, his clothes, his associations, his interests&#8230; even emulating his death? It&#8217;s not a stretch of imagination, it seems the only logical conclusion. The mountains of similarities are overwhelming evidence. It&#8217;s like if you fill your home with Beenie Babies, wear Beenie Baby themed clothes, spend time on Beenie Baby websites, have Beenie Babies on your desk at work, write poems about Beenie Babies, and then request that you be buried with Beenie Babies&#8230;. I can safely deduce that you like Beenie Babies and no one would accuse me of just jumping to that conclusion.

So why did MJ spend so much time emulating Elvis&#8217;s last 6 months of life in his own last 6 months of life? From the press conference at the O2 to the doctors to the concert posters to the home he rented to the dates to the title of the productions to the way he walked/talked/moved on stage all of a sudden&#8230; coincidence then that he then up and ended up dying just like him?

Then after the death&#8230; the numerology&#8230; same for both men&#8230; same connections from life to death in the numbers, the Mayan calendar, Lisa Marie and the things she has said, now the court case and Jesse and maybe he isn&#8217;t dead after all?

Elvis could actually be dead and it wouldn&#8217;t matter. All that matters is the context in which American culture and the American populous regards Elvis and his hoax death idea.

I say the mountains of similarities between Elvis and MJ, live and dead, are not coincidental. I say the parallels were loaded up so that people would start to catch on to the joke. It&#8217;s necessary for MJs death hoax to become just as much a joke as Elvis&#8217;s death hoax. It&#8217;s the biggest early hint in this whole thing. MJ is dead just like Elvis&#8230; who&#8217;s memory has gone on to be forever linked in everyone&#8217;s mind with DEATH HOAX. The connection starts everything off on the right foot and it&#8217;s been paraded in front of us from Day One. In my opinion, the purpose is this: MJ intends to do what MJ always does and does best&#8230; he&#8217;s going to one-up Elvis.

Because as we all know, a come back is sensitive. It must be done properly. The PR campaign is crucial. And it will be done right, have no doubt. Comparing MJs hoax death to Elvis&#8217;s hoax death sets off the right tone. It&#8217;s fun and light hearted and silly. Not shady and fraudulent and deceitful. It&#8217;s all for love and all for fun.

He&#8217;s going to do what Elvis did except he&#8217;s going to do it better. Like Prince doing 20 O2 concerts? MJ is gonna do 50 (remember that report?). Elvis does a hoax death and stays dead. Big deal. Anyone can pull that off. MJ gonna do a hoax death and come back. Now THAT is a big deal.
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http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/12/22/michael-jackson-is-dead-just-like-elvis/

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eighthnoterojo;3151461 said:
From iamdiddy's twitter:

iamdiddy He returns in 10 days.......... about 18 hours ago via ÜberTwitter

iamdiddy 10 days until He returns... better get some dancing lessons... lol about 13 hours ago via CoTweet

iamdiddy 10 more days...... and then he's takin the motherfuckin gloves off.... about 9 hours ago via CoTweet

iamdiddy The countdown until His return... 10 more days... BE READY.

9 days..... until He's back....... 20 minutes ago via web

I wonder who he's talking about. And if this account is real. And if he isn't just doing this for promotional purposes.

Edit - just noticed it's a verified account.
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Huh? :wtf: LOL Oh Diddy... :fear:
 
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