The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

[Ashtanga]

Michael Jackson – Breaking News

Well this is a big lol isn’t it. I, like nearly everyone who waited to hear Breaking News get released on Monday morning were thrown into a state of utter confusion upon hearing the first word of vocals in the song.

THIS SOUNDS NOTHING LIKE MICHAEL JACKSON

and it’s true. It doesn’t sound anything like him. And the way his own first and last name are repeated in the verse… well it’s weird city. Oh and it’s bad too, in my opinion. It sounds really cheap and immature and it’s not real catchy. The way the voice says “Michael Jackson” is creepy, like creeper creepy.

But, if I’ve learned anything by now though it better be this: when the information is confusing or conflicting or seems inexplicable, there’s always more to the story.

You realize, if this were a fake MJ track it would make zero sense. Sony paid a record amount for this music. But on the surface it appears that Sony, in a hurry to cash in on anything MJ, threw together a bunch of bogus tracks and remixes with voice impersonators to make up an album to sell. One could conclude that Breaking News is an example of what will be on the album. Worse, shortly after Breaking News hit the MJJ site on 11/7/10, Sony issues an official statement asserting that the song IS 100% Michael Jackson and in response the fans, assuming that they were going to hear that a mistake had been made, were outraged! Sony attests that FBI vocal forensics or some such thing, and all sorts of experts conclude that it is MJ.

COME ON.

This is by design you realize.

There is no earthy reason for Sony to release this weak track with dubious vocals. No reason what so ever. Sony has access to multiple unreleased hot tracks that we have HEARD (Another Day, Place With No Name, other stuff floating around YouTube RIGHT NOW&#8230 with obvious MJ vocals on them to release. They have everything to lose on this and nothing to gain by committing fraud. Because that’s what this apparent deception would be, you realize.

But… this is by design.

Do you get it? BN really IS him…. the vocal track is just digitally disguised to NOT sound like him. On purpose.

This HAD to happen because the general CD buying public isn’t going to pay one iotta of attention to a GOOD new MJ release…

They are ONLY going to tune in if it’s a TRAIN WRECK to come gawk at the destruction of Michael Jackson…

Because even the haters are saying “That’s not MJ…. I mean at least the guy could SING”….

And it CAN’T be fake or else it’s fraud. And Sony is NOT going to do that, they just aren’t going to throw a billion dollar money making machine over an MJ song…. and they sure as shit are NOT going to pay 250 million for fake bogus garbage music.

SO LET’S GET REAL HERE.

It’s marketing.

And it’s very clever.

People are flocking to YouTube in droves to compare BN to the REAL MJ voice, and everyone just got a reminder of who the greatest singer in the world is. Even in demos, even in rough tracks, even in short, leaked snippets with someone’s voice talking all over it, even while sitting on the witness stand recorded by the court’s audio system… he’s the greatest and his voice is classic. TII sent everyone to You Tube to see his old dance footage, and remind them that he is the master…. now Breaking News is sending them in search of his voice.

Discover the man you never knew.

I’ve heard the capella of Breaking News, (which gets yanked so fast off You Tube by Sony copyright I won’t even bother posting the link) and the audio track is Michael Jackson, but here’s the trick. The vocal track is altered but not filtered. It’s like manually stretched in places and lowered in others, not altered at all in parts and then stretched again. It’s sort of fun house mirror effect in sound, sometimes word by word, I don’t know how to explain it but I laughed when I heard it. It sounds almost like they cut and pasted two or even three voices (but it’s not, it’s all MJ) together to form each line… like a kidnappers note except in song version with different voice effects. It IS funny and it IS outrageous and it IS very very scandalous. But it’s legal and legitimately all Michael Jackson’s voice. I doubt this version of the song will make the album lol. But with Michael Jackson, who knows.

Ps. 777 is in the video for Breaking News by the way. On one of the TV panels, the knobs. Check it out.
The whole thing is really really smart. Genius really. It’s got MJs stink all over it, and he’s playing a prank to get their attention for his comeback…

I mean TAKE OVER!

This will be the first of multiple entries because developments are coming fast this week.

http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/michael-jackson-breaking-news/


:fear:

It was suppose to be on youtube but, I think cause of copyright it was removed? So in her video she says go to her websites to watch it! It was also on here www.MichaelJacksonInsider.com but, I didn't post that link cause that's the one that didn't work for me! LOL Maybe for u it will? :/

Thanks. I also could not watch the michaeljacksoninsider.com :doh:

 

[Dancing the Dream]

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Omg i'm so confused! :fear:

 

[dangerous_88]

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I am assuming you guys did not watch Mrs Katherine Jackson and MJ3 on Oprah, did you? :depressed:
Un-be-lie-va-ble! *sigh*

after that, it is really hard to believe Michael is alive.

 

[bluetopez]

http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.co...breaking-news/

WOW! Good find ASH don't we wish it was the truth....

Thanks. I also could not watch the michaeljacksoninsider.com :doh:

Oh sorry, that was the only other option! :C Maybe u can find the bumble bee song online and then compare it yourself to BN? And Google the play it was in called "The Tale of Tsar Saltan."

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[Ashtanga]

Opis No one is paying attention….

So Breaking News shocks the fan community (hoaxers too I might add). But…

72 hours previous to this moment, Opis None was posted to the jacksonsecretvault website that KJ is a partner of.

That was Friday, November 5th. Originally, the site said this authentic Michael Jackson track was released by Katherine Jackson to MJ fans for free with L.O.V.E. Fans immediately jumped on the track only to complain that it was “just a Destiny remix” and “weird” and blasted Katherine with some VERY NOT NICE words on the message boards saying she was lying about the Sony release not being MJ and trying to sabotage the album and her sons legacy… pretty shocking actually. 24hrs later KJ says she didn’t release the song nor approve it and Mann issued a lame apology on the site taking the blame and changed the text to read free remixed MJ track. Remember remember. One year from tonight, a 5th of November we will never forget.

Now please consider what has happened with the release of Breaking News in the fan community. Fans are outraged, shocked, horrified, screaming, crying, going hysterical, engaging in email campaigns, twitter campaigns, letter writing campaigns, simultaneous pre-order canceling campaigns, boycott campaigns, alert the media campaigns, save MJs legacy campaigns….. you get the idea.

The estate finally releases a highly anticipated statement on 11/11/10 (mmhmm) verifying Sony’s statement that the voice on Breaking News is Michael Jackson. Lol. If the fans were enraged before… where do you think they are now? Spontaneous combustion stage essentially. They are adamant, by and large and very vocally and in numbers, that they will not let all these evil doers “rape MJs legacy”. Yes, I took that quote directly off MJJC.

Now we have a solemn and not very nice warning from the owner of MJJC posted on the boards that they had all better settle down, quit the bashing, and play nice or the boards will be closed.

SOUND FAMILIAR?

I also think it’s noteworthy to mention that it is true, Opis None contins Destiny lyrics but it is not the original vocal track remixed. These are new vocal tracks on Opis. But who cares if it was “just” a Destiny remix, it’s real MJ and got a killer beat. I really dig this song. I admit, a friend offered me the download and I accepted. I now own a copy of Opis None, aka Confusion. Groovy track. I consider it a gift for us who care to take it at face value. Thank you Mr. Jackson.

http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/11/13/opis-no-one-is-paying-attention/

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http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/michael-jackson-breaking-news/

WOW! Good find ASH don't we wish it was the truth....

Thanks!

Oh sorry, that was the only other option! :C Maybe u can find the bumble bee song online and then compare it yourself to BN? And Google the play it was in called "The Tale of Tsar Saltan."

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<hr></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="mbox-text" style="line-height: 1.1em;">Problems listening to this file? See media help.</td> </tr> </tbody></table> "Flight of the Bumblebee" is an orchestral interlude written by Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov for his opera The Tale of Tsar Saltan, composed in 1899–1900. The piece closes Act III, Tableau 1, during which the magic Swan-Bird changes Prince Gvidon Saltanovich (the Tsar's son) into an insect so that he can fly away to visit his father (who does not know that he is alive). Although in the opera the Swan-Bird sings during the first part of the "Flight", her vocal line is melodically uninvolved and easily omitted; this feature, combined with the fact that the number decisively closes the scene, made easy extraction as an orchestral concert piece possible.

Hmmmmmmmmm

Seriously, I still can not make the connection between "Flight of the Bumblebee" and "Breaking News". :scratch:

 

[bluetopez]

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Hmmmmmmmmm

Seriously, I still can not make the connection between "Flight of the Bumblebee" and "Breaking News". :scratch:

Well, I hear similarities in both songs like Teddy may have sampled the Bumble bee song or got inspired by it? And the bumble bee song was in a play that had someone who was suppose to be dead but, was still alive! So, I guess that's the connection if there's really any!? lol

http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.co...ing-attention/

:fear:

HA HA HA we got some spies up in here quoting MJJC!

But, I'm not to sure though I understood the Opis none explanation part? lol So now I'm confused, help me out! lol

 

[InvincibleMJ]

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what's with the Back posts?

 

[Ashtanga]

Well, I hear similarities in both songs like Teddy may have sampled the Bumble bee song or got inspired by it? And the bumble bee song was in a play that had someone who was suppose to be dead but, was still alive! So, I guess that's the connection if there's really any!? lol

Hmmmm makes sense now. Maybe it's just coincidence? LOL So many coincidences, this can not be normal. :bugeyed

HA HA HA we got some spies up in here quoting MJJC!

You know, are the mysterious posts of Back. :shifty:

But, I'm not to sure though I understood the Opis none explanation part? lol So now I'm confused, help me out! lol

Well, it's about all the confusion: Breaking News/New album, Katie/ "Destiny remix&#8221; - The first post Back is 2006 > "The sun rises" and second post of Back is the thread "Katherine Jackson: Statement About Attorneys" > http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2349165&postcount=252 :thinking:

 

[bluetopez]

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Oh, I see! Thanks!

 

[mj_forever]

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http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/michael-jackson-breaking-news/


:fear:

i hope she's right, Ash! but even if she isn't, i like her take on Breaking News!

 

[Word Smith Sr]

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EDIT: A little far fetched to say the least, but i won't remove the link in case some people wanna watch it.

[YOUTUBE]GlcjJKOIw9M[/YOUTUBE]

 

[jemini515]

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Watched this today while I was looking for a different MJ phone call. Never heard it before.... what do you guys think? To me, the first call w/ the recited poem sounds real, but the last two maybe not.... so I thought I'd ask the experts here!

 

[Dancing the Dream]

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Watched this today while I was looking for a different MJ phone call. Never heard it before.... what do you guys think? To me, the first call w/ the recited poem sounds real, but the last two maybe not.... so I thought I'd ask the experts here!

I've heard that before on one of the hoax video's, kinda freaked me out :bugeyed
It deff sounds like Mike to me, but would the date it was posted originally be real? I'm really confused.

 

[jrsfan]

Hmmmm makes sense now. Maybe it's just coincidence? LOL So many coincidences, this can not be normal. :bugeyed




You know, are the mysterious posts of Back. :shifty:





Well, it's about all the confusion: Breaking News/New album, Katie/ "Destiny remix” - The first post Back is 2006 > "The sun rises" and second post of Back is the thread "Katherine Jackson: Statement About Attorneys" > http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2349165&postcount=252 :thinking:

back is mysterioush34r: I wish he would post more often. He gets really upset at KJ bashing, can't blame him.

 

[dangerous_88]

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that tape is freaky, if that is michael talking.

 

[Ashtanga]

i hope she's right, Ash! but even if she isn't, i like her take on Breaking News!

Yes... And more: Awaken Ye Non-Believers… and for some of you it’s with cold water > http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.c...vers-and-for-some-of-you-its-with-cold-water/

:fear:

Watched this today while I was looking for a different MJ phone call. Never heard it before.... what do you guys think? To me, the first call w/ the recited poem sounds real, but the last two maybe not.... so I thought I'd ask the experts here!

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Great find. I never heard it before. It seems to be really Michael. :bugeyed

back is mysterioush34r: I wish he would post more often. He gets really upset at KJ bashing, can't blame him.

Yes, very mysterious. :fear: I would love Back to return to post in the forum.

 

[suzynyc]

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I guess I was the only person who was startled by Harvey Levin's mistake while discussing the new CD.

http://www.tmz.com/tmz-live/

"That's a song that if Michael were dead now...I mean, Michael's dead but if that were one of these songs..."

It just startled me a little, hehe.

 

[Ashtanga]

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I guess I was the only person who was startled by Harvey Levin's mistake while discussing the new CD.

http://www.tmz.com/tmz-live/

"That's a song that if Michael were dead now...I mean, Michael's dead but if that were one of these songs..."

It just startled me a little, hehe.

:bugeyed


:doh:


Harvey how could you be confusing this way? :smilerolleyes: :girl_whistle:

 

[jemini515]

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Great find. I never heard it before. It seems to be really Michael. :bugeyed

Do you hear Michael in all three of the phone segments? Also I wonder if that poem Behind The Mask will lyrically connect to the song on the new album in any way.

I guess I was the only person who was startled by Harvey Levin's mistake while discussing the new CD.

http://www.tmz.com/tmz-live/

"That's a song that if Michael were dead now...I mean, Michael's dead but if that were one of these songs..."

It just startled me a little, hehe.

:shock: :shock2: :shock: :shock2:

 

[Arklove]

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I guess I was the only person who was startled by Harvey Levin's mistake while discussing the new CD.

http://www.tmz.com/tmz-live/

"That's a song that if Michael were dead now...I mean, Michael's dead but if that were one of these songs..."

It just startled me a little, hehe.

I caught that, but didn't REALLY catch on...hmmm...:shock: hehe

 

[Dangerous Incorporated]

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lol @ Harvey.....ooops!

 

[Pretty_Young_Thriller]

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roflmao @ Harvey. That could be an honest mistake though.

I remember a lot of talk about a MJ voice impersonator a few months ago. Was it the Dom/Tom guy? All 3 voices sound the same to me... and the second one he's like "This is Michael Jackson... just kidding. It's Dom."

 

[Pretty_Young_Thriller]

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Can somebody put me in the loop here, in case I'm being slow...? When it comes to Exploring the Hoax's blogs, are we operating under the theory that Back is MJ or an informant/messenger?

 

[bluetopez]

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Backs post about Mother...katty was in 05.... Back for sees the future before it came? lol nice! I liked back post and whomever it was I feel bad that some made them feel that way :C I wasn't a member yet when that happen here...thanks god! lol SMH


Oh yea I caught what Harvey said too, the min he said it and I smiled! lol and thought that it might make the hoax rounds for sure! lol


Those voices that sound like MJ by that Dom guy is interesting! I haven't heard them since 09! Dude has a my space page and I got him as a friend on my my space page! :rofl:

Could be the same guy? But, he calls himself Peter and on his my space he has the same "behind the mask" poem on there! lol He sounds like MJ when he sings too better then the person who did BN IMO! LMAO He has demo's of him singing on his my space and it sounds like MJ too! O_O SMH

 

[man.in.the.mirror]

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I guess I was the only person who was startled by Harvey Levin's mistake while discussing the new CD.

http://www.tmz.com/tmz-live/

"That's a song that if Michael were dead now...I mean, Michael's dead but if that were one of these songs..."

It just startled me a little, hehe.

thats very interesting,could be an honest mistake though,but what a mistake to make,

roflmao @ Harvey. That could be an honest mistake though.

I remember a lot of talk about a MJ voice impersonator a few months ago. Was it the Dom/Tom guy? All 3 voices sound the same to me... and the second one he's like "This is Michael Jackson... just kidding. It's Dom."

i was just going to say that,didn,t dom admit it was him who left that message on peters page,i think they are the same people,dom and peter,i know i could be wrong,i,ve always felt that though,i think peterpanpyt is a member here,

Can somebody put me in the loop here, in case I'm being slow...? When it comes to Exploring the Hoax's blogs, are we operating under the theory that Back is MJ or an informant/messenger?

i know a long while ago,i think people used to think back was mj,or if not him somebody who knows him,

Backs post about Mother...katty was in 05.... Back for sees the future before it came? lol nice! I liked back post and whomever it was I feel bad that some made them feel that way :C I wasn't a member yet when that happen here...thanks god! lol SMH

why what happened?

 

[bluetopez]

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why what happened?

:bugeyedOh oops :rofl: My mistake he made that post about people needing to stop talking bad about Katherine in Sept 24, 09!:doh: I accidentally looked at the date Back joined MJJC in 05 instead!:blush: LOL But, Back was still the first with a warning since a yr back though!? :fortuneteller:

 

[Angela_MJJ]

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I guess I was the only person who was startled by Harvey Levin's mistake while discussing the new CD.

http://www.tmz.com/tmz-live/

"That's a song that if Michael were dead now...I mean, Michael's dead but if that were one of these songs..."

It just startled me a little, hehe.

Wow I have to listen to that when I get back home!!
I could really use some good hoax stuff.

 

[Ashtanga]

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Do you hear Michael in all three of the phone segments? Also I wonder if that poem Behind The Mask will lyrically connect to the song on the new album in any way.

Three of the phone segments? Is there more? :scratch:

Look... This was posted by someone in comments on this video on youtube:


http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10610627

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7653171


User: http://www.ustream.tv/user/peterpanpyt

just talking about all the rurmors arounding me on the internet that im michael jackson

LOL

Well, it seems like a good imitator of the voice of Michael. I'm shocked! :bugeyed

 

[jemini515]

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Three of the phone segments? Is there more? :scratch:

Look... This was posted by someone in comments on this video on youtube:


http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10610627

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7653171


User: http://www.ustream.tv/user/peterpanpyt



LOL

Well, it seems like a good imitator of the voice of Michael. I'm shocked! :bugeyed

I heard three separate calls in the one YT video....
I'll check out the ustream links too!

 

[144000]

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Watched this today while I was looking for a different MJ phone call. Never heard it before.... what do you guys think? To me, the first call w/ the recited poem sounds real, but the last two maybe not.... so I thought I'd ask the experts here!

i guess we have to face that there are quite a few people out there who can sound like Michael, phonetically, and take great pleasure in doing so, but no one can imitate his soul. that's not him in that audio that's in that video.